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Reply #1830 posted 07/24/18 4:27am

PennyPurple

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CatB said:



His sleeping in an overheated room was nothing new. He had done so before.


Was it because he was always cold?

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Reply #1831 posted 07/24/18 4:43am

Lovejunky

PennyPurple said:

CatB said:



His sleeping in an overheated room was nothing new. He had done so before.


Was it because he was always cold?

Nah...

More likely he liked to be HOT ! tease

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Reply #1832 posted 07/24/18 5:20am

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Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Was it because he was always cold?

Nah...

More likely he liked to be HOT ! tease

lol

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Reply #1833 posted 07/24/18 7:42am

Bodhitheblackd
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1Sasha said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

wow, some tough love here...co-sign and thanks for saying it...

Remember what Lenny Kravitz said - was it April 21 or the day after - he said in a radio interview that he thought he knew what happened. If Prince committed suicide, I don't think Lenny knew that would happen, but I believe he knew Prince was addicted, and he supposed it was a drug overdose. So it wasn't just the people in Prince's employ who knew.

Thanks for bringing this important quote back into the conversation...

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Reply #1834 posted 07/24/18 7:54am

che777x

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purplefam99 said:

Perhaps a hair of thought might be given that direction as to why the case was Investigated so poorly. We keep questioning why the case was handled so shoddly. Just saying.

A hair of thought is exactly what you need. Are you seriously playing the fucking race card here? And insinuating this investigation by Barney Fife was inept because ALL parties involved were black? Get a phucking grip already

In the early days after P's passing, I remember remarks in the press about the death scene looking staged or tampered with. Perhaps there was something about the scene that made the officials classify K as an offender, and/or as someone said, whatever K initially said to the authorities. (What caused the stain on the rug that Theo refers to that KJ wanted immediately removed).

Also, the investigation, IMO, required a seasoned, veteran investigator, willing to dig deep, not affected by celebrity or P, (maybe somewhat by P), someone knowing more about the entertainment business, not too nice or afraid to offend -- a Colombo.

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Reply #1835 posted 07/24/18 8:00am

precioux

che777x said:

precioux said:

A hair of thought is exactly what you need. Are you seriously playing the fucking race card here? And insinuating this investigation by Barney Fife was inept because ALL parties involved were black? Get a phucking grip already

In the early days after P's passing, I remember remarks in the press about the death scene looking staged or tampered with. Perhaps there was something about the scene that made the officials classify K as an offender, and/or as someone said, whatever K initially said to the authorities. (What caused the stain on the rug that Theo refers to that KJ wanted immediately removed).

Also, the investigation, IMO, required a seasoned, veteran investigator, willing to dig deep, not affected by celebrity or P, (maybe somewhat by P), someone knowing more about the entertainment business, not too nice or afraid to offend -- a Colombo.

that someone who said that was me. Agreed on not only a seasoned investigator on the case initially and throughout- but this should've been handed over to the FBI off the bat. They knew they were in over their heads.

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Reply #1836 posted 07/24/18 8:03am

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precioux said:

che777x said:

In the early days after P's passing, I remember remarks in the press about the death scene looking staged or tampered with. Perhaps there was something about the scene that made the officials classify K as an offender, and/or as someone said, whatever K initially said to the authorities. (What caused the stain on the rug that Theo refers to that KJ wanted immediately removed).

Also, the investigation, IMO, required a seasoned, veteran investigator, willing to dig deep, not affected by celebrity or P, (maybe somewhat by P), someone knowing more about the entertainment business, not too nice or afraid to offend -- a Colombo.

that someone who said that was me. Agreed on not only a seasoned investigator on the case initially and throughout- but this should've been handed over to the FBI off the bat. They knew they were in over their heads.

does anyone know if there's any way to get this case reopened???

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Reply #1837 posted 07/24/18 8:05am

Camileyun

che777x said:



precioux said:




purplefam99 said:


Perhaps a hair of thought might be given that direction as to why the case was Investigated so poorly. We keep questioning why the case was handled so shoddly. Just saying.

A hair of thought is exactly what you need. Are you seriously playing the fucking race card here? And insinuating this investigation by Barney Fife was inept because ALL parties involved were black? Get a phucking grip already




In the early days after P's passing, I remember remarks in the press about the death scene looking staged or tampered with. Perhaps there was something about the scene that made the officials classify K as an offender, and/or as someone said, whatever K initially said to the authorities. (What caused the stain on the rug that Theo refers to that KJ wanted immediately removed).



Also, the investigation, IMO, required a seasoned, veteran investigator, willing to dig deep, not affected by celebrity or P, (maybe somewhat by P), someone knowing more about the entertainment business, not too nice or afraid to offend -- a Colombo.


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Reply #1838 posted 07/24/18 8:08am

1Sasha

I think it could be re-opened if some extraordinary evidence was found, or someone made a new statement about the death ... I don't think the family is focused on finding out exactly what happened but if some bigtime investigator could dig into this, maybe new information would be unearthed. Or an author writing a book about it - where is Ian Halperin when you need him? I know he has a questionable reputation, but he or someone like him would be the one to dig through everything.

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Reply #1839 posted 07/24/18 8:11am

precioux

Bodhitheblackdog said:

precioux said:

that someone who said that was me. Agreed on not only a seasoned investigator on the case initially and throughout- but this should've been handed over to the FBI off the bat. They knew they were in over their heads.

does anyone know if there's any way to get this case reopened???

ISLIJAG.

From what the press conference inferred in April, unless new evidence/leads come up-no, it will not be re-opened. BUT, I wish there was a way to charge those involved with incompetence and have it turned over to the FBI....Like ISLIJAG has said before in the past, we do not have access to the DEA files, so there's that.

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Reply #1840 posted 07/24/18 8:16am

Camileyun

Bodhitheblackdog said:



precioux said:




che777x said:




In the early days after P's passing, I remember remarks in the press about the death scene looking staged or tampered with. Perhaps there was something about the scene that made the officials classify K as an offender, and/or as someone said, whatever K initially said to the authorities. (What caused the stain on the rug that Theo refers to that KJ wanted immediately removed).



Also, the investigation, IMO, required a seasoned, veteran investigator, willing to dig deep, not affected by celebrity or P, (maybe somewhat by P), someone knowing more about the entertainment business, not too nice or afraid to offend -- a Colombo.



that someone who said that was me. Agreed on not only a seasoned investigator on the case initially and throughout- but this should've been handed over to the FBI off the bat. They knew they were in over their heads.



does anyone know if there's any way to get this case reopened???



Inundate Mark Metz, the Carver County DA, with requests???
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Reply #1841 posted 07/24/18 8:19am

paulludvig

precioux said:



Bodhitheblackdog said:




precioux said:



that someone who said that was me. Agreed on not only a seasoned investigator on the case initially and throughout- but this should've been handed over to the FBI off the bat. They knew they were in over their heads.



does anyone know if there's any way to get this case reopened???



ISLIJAG.



From what the press conference inferred in April, unless new evidence/leads come up-no, it will not be re-opened. BUT, I wish there was a way to charge those involved with incompetence and have it turned over to the FBI....Like ISLIJAG has said before in the past, we do not have access to the DEA files, so there's that.



There wasn't enough evidence to press charges, so what's the point?
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Reply #1842 posted 07/24/18 8:19am

precioux

1Sasha said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

wow, some tough love here...co-sign and thanks for saying it...

Remember what Lenny Kravitz said - was it April 21 or the day after - he said in a radio interview that he thought he knew what happened. If Prince committed suicide, I don't think Lenny knew that would happen, but I believe he knew Prince was addicted, and he supposed it was a drug overdose. So it wasn't just the people in Prince's employ who knew.

In that same vein, we need to remember that Prince told KJ ' I can't kick this...' on 4/20/16. It's in the investigative files.

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Reply #1843 posted 07/24/18 8:23am

precioux

paulludvig said:

precioux said:

ISLIJAG.

From what the press conference inferred in April, unless new evidence/leads come up-no, it will not be re-opened. BUT, I wish there was a way to charge those involved with incompetence and have it turned over to the FBI....Like ISLIJAG has said before in the past, we do not have access to the DEA files, so there's that.

There wasn't enough evidence to press charges, so what's the point?

Barney Fife and Columbo couldn't 'find enough evidence'. If this case would've been in the hands of competent investigators from the get go- maybe that would not have been the case. Have you even read the files to understand exactly how incompetent these gum shoe detectives were??

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Reply #1844 posted 07/24/18 8:28am

Camileyun

precioux said:



paulludvig said:


precioux said:


ISLIJAG.



From what the press conference inferred in April, unless new evidence/leads come up-no, it will not be re-opened. BUT, I wish there was a way to charge those involved with incompetence and have it turned over to the FBI....Like ISLIJAG has said before in the past, we do not have access to the DEA files, so there's that.



There wasn't enough evidence to press charges, so what's the point?

Barney Fife and Columbo couldn't 'find enough evidence'. If this case would've been in the hands of competent investigators from the get go- maybe that would not have been the case. Have you even read the files to understand exactly how incompetent these gum shoe detectives were??



Yes, as far as we know (caveat), they didn't seem to follow up on many red flags.
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Reply #1845 posted 07/24/18 8:32am

paulludvig

Bodhitheblackdog said:



1Sasha said:




Bodhitheblackdog said:



wow, some tough love here...co-sign and thanks for saying it...



Remember what Lenny Kravitz said - was it April 21 or the day after - he said in a radio interview that he thought he knew what happened. If Prince committed suicide, I don't think Lenny knew that would happen, but I believe he knew Prince was addicted, and he supposed it was a drug overdose. So it wasn't just the people in Prince's employ who knew.



Thanks for bringing this important quote back into the conversation...



This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."
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Reply #1846 posted 07/24/18 8:36am

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:



1Sasha said:




Bodhitheblackdog said:



wow, some tough love here...co-sign and thanks for saying it...



Remember what Lenny Kravitz said - was it April 21 or the day after - he said in a radio interview that he thought he knew what happened. If Prince committed suicide, I don't think Lenny knew that would happen, but I believe he knew Prince was addicted, and he supposed it was a drug overdose. So it wasn't just the people in Prince's employ who knew.



Thanks for bringing this important quote back into the conversation...



This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."


Wow, this pisses me off!
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Reply #1847 posted 07/24/18 8:38am

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."


Wow, this pisses me off!


Why?
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Reply #1848 posted 07/24/18 8:48am

precioux

paulludvig said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Thanks for bringing this important quote back into the conversation...

This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."

This interview with Krvitz was done by Jonsey on the day of Prince's death. The underlined words are not Kravitz's- unless he regurgitated the same story with a different interviewer I am unaware of.

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Reply #1849 posted 07/24/18 8:51am

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:



Wow, this pisses me off!


Why?


"Close call, but it's a one-off and we move on" Really, Lenny, did we move on? What a stupid thing to say - he obviously knew P. was an addict --when do addicts just move on??!! Did he talk to him after the plane incident, or did he just "move on"? This person considers himself a friend??!! I know, some will say "what would you expect him to do?" and my answer is ALOT more than he did. He knew and just blew it off and now wants sympathy that a piece of him died. No it did not, but Prince is really dead...forever, Lenny!!
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Reply #1850 posted 07/24/18 8:56am

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Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."


Wow, this pisses me off!




nod People watched him slowly kill himself.
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Reply #1851 posted 07/24/18 8:57am

paulludvig

precioux said:



paulludvig said:


Bodhitheblackdog said:


Thanks for bringing this important quote back into the conversation...



This is what Kravitz said: "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can’t remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, “Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it’s a one-off and we move on.” And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven’t really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died."

This interview with Krvitz was done by Jonsey on the day of Prince's death. The underlined words are not Kravitz's- unless he regurgitated the same story with a different interviewer I am unaware of.




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Reply #1852 posted 07/24/18 8:59am

paulludvig

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paulludvig said:



Why?


"Close call, but it's a one-off and we move on" Really, Lenny, did we move on? What a stupid thing to say - he obviously knew P. was an addict --when do addicts just move on??!! Did he talk to him after the plane incident, or did he just "move on"? This person considers himself a friend??!! I know, some will say "what would you expect him to do?" and my answer is ALOT more than he did. He knew and just blew it off and now wants sympathy that a piece of him died. No it did not, but Prince is really dead...forever, Lenny!!


Why is it obvious that he knew Prince was an addict? If anything, this quote tells us that Kravitz didn't think it was that bad.
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Reply #1853 posted 07/24/18 9:03am

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paulludvig said:

sonshine said:


I would say no, not the general public. My sis-in-law lives near PP. She snd her friends, aquaintances, neighbors, co-workers, etc were stunned and saddened by the news.


Thanks for confirming that Prince's addiction was not an open secret!


According to the Star Tribune it was.
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Reply #1854 posted 07/24/18 9:03am

Camileyun

Oh, and "I saw him so much, in and out, that I can't remember the last time we spoke" like he was his BFF. Lenny should be amazed that P. ever gave his punk ass the time of day!! Did P. have one REAL friend in this world? With friends like these, who needs enemies!!!
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Reply #1855 posted 07/24/18 9:08am

paulludvig

Krystalkisses said:

paulludvig said:



Thanks for confirming that Prince's addiction was not an open secret!


According to the Star Tribune it was.


Link?
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Reply #1856 posted 07/24/18 9:09am

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:



"Close call, but it's a one-off and we move on" Really, Lenny, did we move on? What a stupid thing to say - he obviously knew P. was an addict --when do addicts just move on??!! Did he talk to him after the plane incident, or did he just "move on"? This person considers himself a friend??!! I know, some will say "what would you expect him to do?" and my answer is ALOT more than he did. He knew and just blew it off and now wants sympathy that a piece of him died. No it did not, but Prince is really dead...forever, Lenny!!


Why is it obvious that he knew Prince was an addict? If anything, this quote tells us that Kravitz didn't think it was that bad.
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Totally disagree...he knew, they all knew, or he wouldn't have assumed he knew what happened on the plane. Consider the line of work these people are in...they've seen the result of addiction many many times over.
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Reply #1857 posted 07/24/18 9:11am

paulludvig

Camileyun said:

paulludvig said:



Why is it obvious that he knew Prince was an addict? If anything, this quote tells us that Kravitz didn't think it was that bad.
[Edited 7/24/18 8:59am]

Totally disagree...he knew, they all knew, or he wouldn't have assumed he knew what happened on the plane. Consider the line of work these people are in...they've seen the result of addiction many many times over.



Then he wouldn't have been convinced the plane incident was a one-off.
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Reply #1858 posted 07/24/18 9:17am

1Sasha

I think the "one off" comment came from Lenny believing Prince could handle his addiction because he had been handling it for years. Now, over the past two years we have learned there were some hospital visits along the way which the public didn't know about, but you can be sure there was chatter in the music industry. As another poster said, this is the music business - "they" have seen it all a hundred times over.

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Reply #1859 posted 07/24/18 9:17am

Camileyun

paulludvig said:

Camileyun said:


Totally disagree...he knew, they all knew, or he wouldn't have assumed he knew what happened on the plane. Consider the line of work these people are in...they've seen the result of addiction many many times over.



Then he wouldn't have been convinced the plane incident was a one-off.


He said that AFTER P. died to cover his ass for doing nothing. How do we know he did nothing? Because he would have bragged about that, too, if he had. If he jumped to that conclusion (remember, we were all shocked), he knew!!
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