Reply #1680 posted 07/18/18 3:47pm
Camileyun |
PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said: So, I am in the process of making a google doc tying the evidence and results together: https://docs.google.com/s...sp=sharing I still have to finish the investigative report #2 and earrants and subpoena file. Maybe it will be complete by next week. Sorry,I got finals and papers to grade coming up!
Quick question on your report. On item line 23, the plastic ziplock baggie that was found in Andrews backpack had 2 or more individuals DNA, including 1 major DNA profile, which earlier was id'd as Prince being the major DNA profile. How could that be, if Andrew never met Prince? Penny, do you mean item 26, that Ziploc baggie? Check out pg. 142, it says there's only one DNA profile on it (was there more than one baggie mentioned?). |
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Reply #1681 posted 07/18/18 4:04pm
paulludvig |
Camileyun said: PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said:
So, I am in the process of making a google doc tying the evidence and results together: https://docs.google.com/s...sp=sharing I still have to finish the investigative report #2 and earrants and subpoena file. Maybe it will be complete by next week. Sorry,I got finals and papers to grade coming up!
Quick question on your report. On item line 23, the plastic ziplock baggie that was found in Andrews backpack had 2 or more individuals DNA, including 1 major DNA profile, which earlier was id'd as Prince being the major DNA profile. How could that be, if Andrew never met Prince?
Penny, do you mean item 26, that Ziploc baggie? Check out pg. 142, it says there's only one DNA profile on it (was there more than one baggie mentioned?).
I think you are talking about the same item. Item LINE 23 = item NUMBER 26
Anyway, it must be a mistake. If Prince's DNA was on an item belonging to someone who supposedly arrived at the scene AFTER Prince had died, then that would be a smoking gun. Then we are talking murder. [Edited 7/18/18 16:07pm]The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #1682 posted 07/18/18 4:23pm
PennyPurple |
paulludvig said:
Camileyun said:
Penny, do you mean item 26, that Ziploc baggie? Check out pg. 142, it says there's only one DNA profile on it (was there more than one baggie mentioned?).
I think you are talking about the same item. Item LINE 23 = item NUMBER 26 Anyway, it must be a mistake. If Prince's DNA was on an item belonging to someone who supposedly arrived at the scene AFTER Prince had died, then that would be a smoking gun. Then we are talking murder. [Edited 7/18/18 16:07pm]
Yes, it's a mistake, there was only 1 dna found on Andrews baggie and it was NOT the major DNA profile.
Sorry about that. |
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Reply #1683 posted 07/18/18 4:53pm
Camileyun |
PennyPurple said:
paulludvig said: Camileyun said:
Penny, do you mean item 26, that Ziploc baggie? Check out pg. 142, it says there's only one DNA profile on it (was there more than one baggie mentioned?). I think you are talking about the same item. Item LINE 23 = item NUMBER 26 Anyway, it must be a mistake. If Prince's DNA was on an item belonging to someone who supposedly arrived at the scene AFTER Prince had died, then that would be a smoking gun. Then we are talking murder. [Edited 7/18/18 16:07pm]
Yes, it's a mistake, there was only 1 dna found on Andrews baggie and it was NOT the major DNA profile. Sorry about that. No problem, it'll be nice to see nelcp's report for this reason. The investigation is all over the place! |
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Reply #1684 posted 07/18/18 4:56pm
nelcp777 |
Camileyun said: PennyPurple said:
paulludvig said: Camileyun said:
Penny, do you mean item 26, that Ziploc baggie? Check out pg. 142, it says there's only one DNA profile on it (was there more than one baggie mentioned?). I think you are talking about the same item. Item LINE 23 = item NUMBER 26 Anyway, it must be a mistake. If Prince's DNA was on an item belonging to someone who supposedly arrived at the scene AFTER Prince had died, then that would be a smoking gun. Then we are talking murder. [Edited 7/18/18 16:07pm]
Yes, it's a mistake, there was only 1 dna found on Andrews baggie and it was NOT the major DNA profile. Sorry about that. No problem, it'll be nice to see nelcp's report for this reason. The investigation is all over the place! |
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Reply #1685 posted 07/18/18 4:58pm
nelcp777 |
nelcp777 said: Camileyun said: No problem, it'll be nice to see nelcp's report for this reason. The investigation is all over the place!
Thanks for the heads up. I wil make the correction. I am human and I make mistakes. Please let me know the source and error. I just want to create something that is comprehensive, fact based and as accurate as possible. To do that, it takes all of us! |
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Reply #1686 posted 07/18/18 5:04pm
PennyPurple |
nelcp777 said:
nelcp777 said: Thanks for the heads up. I wil make the correction. I am human and I make mistakes. Please let me know the source and error. I just want to create something that is comprehensive, fact based and as accurate as possible. To do that, it takes all of us!
It is totally awesome that you are doing this, it makes it so much easier. Thank you! |
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Reply #1687 posted 07/18/18 5:33pm
nelcp777 |
PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said: nelcp777 said: Thanks for the heads up. I wil make the correction. I am human and I make mistakes. Please let me know the source and error. I just want to create something that is comprehensive, fact based and as accurate as possible. To do that, it takes all of us!
It is totally awesome that you are doing this, it makes it so much easier. Thank you! Again, no worries. Once I finish my take, I will make the document available for input. As an accountant, I gotta set it up, complete it first. OCD. |
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Reply #1688 posted 07/18/18 5:36pm
nelcp777 |
PennyPurple said: I was informed by a mod that there would be no sticky's on the death investigation. That is unfortunate. The sticky can contain the google docs in 1 sticky. It would serve as updates and not discussion. A perfect reference point for current and future orgers of the purple army. |
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Reply #1689 posted 07/18/18 6:00pm
PennyPurple |
nelcp777 said:
PennyPurple said:
I was informed by a mod that there would be no sticky's on the death investigation.
That is unfortunate. The sticky can contain the google docs in 1 sticky. It would serve as updates and not discussion. A perfect reference point for current and future orgers of the purple army.
It's very unfortunate. |
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Reply #1690 posted 07/18/18 9:02pm
Bodhitheblackd og |
PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said:
PennyPurple said: That is unfortunate. The sticky can contain the google docs in 1 sticky. It would serve as updates and not discussion. A perfect reference point for current and future orgers of the purple army.
It's very unfortunate.
and a callous waste of hundreds of hours of precious reseach time.....why? Doesn't Prince deserve the respect, caring and attention? Not to mention the dilligent and unselfish intelligence of some kick-ass fans? Respect! |
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Reply #1691 posted 07/18/18 9:05pm
PeteSilas |
it is crazy how passive people are. one of malcolm x' killers has been known for awhile, no one doesn a thing to him. that bothers me, so no, i have no problem with people questioning Prince's demise. I still have a hero who i actually think about avenging, as crazy as it sounds. you love someone you want to know exactly what happened and if justice is required. |
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Reply #1692 posted 07/19/18 9:28am
nelcp777 |
Bodhitheblackdog said:
PennyPurple said:
It's very unfortunate.
and a callous waste of hundreds of hours of precious reseach time.....why? Doesn't Prince deserve the respect, caring and attention? Not to mention the dilligent and unselfish intelligence of some kick-ass fans? Respect!
My remark about unfortunate is not to slam the mods, but at this point, having references for items like the vault, investigation files, estate would be a wealth of information similar to the princevault page. |
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Reply #1693 posted 07/19/18 9:59am
paulludvig |
Bodhitheblackdog said:
PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said: PennyPurple said: That is unfortunate. The sticky can contain the google docs in 1 sticky. It would serve as updates and not discussion. A perfect reference point for current and future orgers of the purple army.
It's very unfortunate.
and a callous waste of hundreds of hours of precious reseach time.....why? Doesn't Prince deserve the respect, caring and attention? Not to mention the dilligent and unselfish intelligence of some kick-ass fans? Respect! I haven't seen that much respect for Prince on this thread. More like 'let's see how far down we can drag him'. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #1694 posted 07/19/18 10:31am
1Sasha |
paulludvig said:
Bodhitheblackdog said:
and a callous waste of hundreds of hours of precious reseach time.....why? Doesn't Prince deserve the respect, caring and attention? Not to mention the dilligent and unselfish intelligence of some kick-ass fans? Respect!
I haven't seen that much respect for Prince on this thread. More like 'let's see how far down we can drag him'.
With the exception of people who had been in his orbit, now making the rounds of appearances, merchandise sales, and the like (I confess - I went to see The Revolution, and loved it), it is only the fans keeping his memory alive. Do you see any big names singing Prince songs in concert these days? Any big names recording his music these days for their albums? Some artists have made the pilgrimage to PP when in town for another reason, but no one that I have heard of is talking about recording at PP - why should they? They have their own studios in their homes or in a freestanding complex. I am simply very grateful to those fans who have been reviewing all of the materials made public, and who have been keeping Prince's memory alive by any means possible (and not looking to make money off of him). |
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Reply #1695 posted 07/19/18 10:37am
Camileyun |
paulludvig said: Bodhitheblackdog said:
PennyPurple said:
nelcp777 said: PennyPurple said: That is unfortunate. The sticky can contain the google docs in 1 sticky. It would serve as updates and not discussion. A perfect reference point for current and future orgers of the purple army.
It's very unfortunate.
and a callous waste of hundreds of hours of precious reseach time.....why? Doesn't Prince deserve the respect, caring and attention? Not to mention the dilligent and unselfish intelligence of some kick-ass fans? Respect! I haven't seen that much respect for Prince on this thread. More like 'let's see how far down we can drag him'. It's interesting how people can look at the same thing and see something completely different. What I see in this thread is a search for the truth, not people dragging P. down. If anyone's reason for being on this thread is to do that, it seems like a huge waste of their time! |
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Reply #1696 posted 07/19/18 11:05am
Bodhitheblackd og |
Camileyun said:
paulludvig said:
I haven't seen that much respect for Prince on this thread. More like 'let's see how far down we can drag him'.
It's interesting how people can look at the same thing and see something completely different. What I see in this thread is a search for the truth, not people dragging P. down. If anyone's reason for being on this thread is to do that, it seems like a huge waste of their time!
So true...you drag him down by ignoring his music, his life, his death, becoming a rabid fan of someone else and not listening to him anymore, not turning people on to his music and genius and sheer beauty, not spending time on Prince.Org., not caring that he's gone for good and not keeping him alive in your heart for all the moments of joy, love, lust and insight he brought into your life. That's not happening here and we who loved and still love Prince know it. |
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Reply #1697 posted 07/19/18 11:33am
purplefam99 |
anyone celebrate the day of the dead?? or see the movie coco? We have to talk about
the dead to keep them alive. We must keep speaking of our dead. that keeps them alive.
it is not that people aren't moving on. People in all the various ways keep Prince alive by
speaking about him. When any discussion is inhibited on the grounds that people need to move on that is really the death of Prince. So to all who have said he is not dead, they are correct, as long
as we keep talking and discussing. My mother is so very much alive in the hearts of my kids because i speak of her so frequently. imo [Edited 7/19/18 11:35am] |
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Reply #1698 posted 07/19/18 12:37pm
Roby78 |
purplefam99 said:
anyone celebrate the day of the dead?? or see the movie coco? We have to talk about
the dead to keep them alive. We must keep speaking of our dead. that keeps them alive.
it is not that people aren't moving on. People in all the various ways keep Prince alive by
speaking about him. When any discussion is inhibited on the grounds that people need to move on that is really the death of Prince. So to all who have said he is not dead, they are correct, as long
as we keep talking and discussing. My mother is so very much alive in the hearts of my kids because i speak of her so frequently. imo
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Reply #1699 posted 07/19/18 4:17pm
PennyPurple |
Inv. Reports Zip 5 page 39 #72 & 73
The ME stated that the stomach acid would be expected to have low levels of fentanyl because there was a significant amount in the body/blood stream.
When the results came back on the stomach contents the ME stated that the extremely high level of fentanyl in the stomach contents left no doubt that the fentanyl was ingested by Prince in pill form.
I'm wondering if he took the pills at several different times or all at once?
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Reply #1700 posted 07/19/18 4:31pm
SkipperLove |
It sounds like different times that night. Unless, during shulbarg's test, the fentanyl hadn't gotten to his blood stream yet. NOt sure how long the process takes.
PennyPurple said:
Inv. Reports Zip 5 page 39 #72 & 73
The ME stated that the stomach acid would be expected to have low levels of fentanyl because there was a significant amount in the body/blood stream.
When the results came back on the stomach contents the ME stated that the extremely high level of fentanyl in the stomach contents left no doubt that the fentanyl was ingested by Prince in pill form.
I'm wondering if he took the pills at several different times or all at once?
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Reply #1701 posted 07/19/18 4:37pm
Bodhitheblackd og |
PennyPurple said:
Inv. Reports Zip 5 page 39 #72 & 73
The ME stated that the stomach acid would be expected to have low levels of fentanyl because there was a significant amount in the body/blood stream.
When the results came back on the stomach contents the ME stated that the extremely high level of fentanyl in the stomach contents left no doubt that the fentanyl was ingested by Prince in pill form.
I'm wondering if he took the pills at several different times or all at once?
And THIS is where we need to insert the time/amount annotated chart from Menes....MENES, COME BACK!!!!! |
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Reply #1702 posted 07/19/18 4:55pm
PennyPurple |
Bodhitheblackdog said:
PennyPurple said:
Inv. Reports Zip 5 page 39 #72 & 73
The ME stated that the stomach acid would be expected to have low levels of fentanyl because there was a significant amount in the body/blood stream.
When the results came back on the stomach contents the ME stated that the extremely high level of fentanyl in the stomach contents left no doubt that the fentanyl was ingested by Prince in pill form.
I'm wondering if he took the pills at several different times or all at once?
And THIS is where we need to insert the time/amount annotated chart from Menes....MENES, COME BACK!!!!!
Yes, wish Menes would come back and explain in layman's terms about the blood level and stomach contents. AND how the vomit didn't test positive for narcs. |
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Reply #1703 posted 07/20/18 5:06am
1Sasha |
purplefam99 said:
anyone celebrate the day of the dead?? or see the movie coco? We have to talk about
the dead to keep them alive. We must keep speaking of our dead. that keeps them alive.
it is not that people aren't moving on. People in all the various ways keep Prince alive by
speaking about him. When any discussion is inhibited on the grounds that people need to move on that is really the death of Prince. So to all who have said he is not dead, they are correct, as long
as we keep talking and discussing. My mother is so very much alive in the hearts of my kids because i speak of her so frequently. imo
[Edited 7/19/18 11:35am]
I have Prince decals on my car. I still use purple paper to send out invoices from my company - I started that after April 2016. I sign my correspondence in purple ink, too. I usually wear a Prince tee shirt to any show. When people ask me why I go to so many shows and concerts now, I say it is because of Prince, because I never expected to lose him so soon and now I want to see everyone I can, before it is too late. I truly believe it is the fans who will keep him alive, not his associates. |
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Reply #1704 posted 07/20/18 6:57am
PennyPurple |
1Sasha said:
purplefam99 said:
anyone celebrate the day of the dead?? or see the movie coco? We have to talk about
the dead to keep them alive. We must keep speaking of our dead. that keeps them alive.
it is not that people aren't moving on. People in all the various ways keep Prince alive by
speaking about him. When any discussion is inhibited on the grounds that people need to move on that is really the death of Prince. So to all who have said he is not dead, they are correct, as long
as we keep talking and discussing. My mother is so very much alive in the hearts of my kids because i speak of her so frequently. imo
[Edited 7/19/18 11:35am]
I have Prince decals on my car. I still use purple paper to send out invoices from my company - I started that after April 2016. I sign my correspondence in purple ink, too. I usually wear a Prince tee shirt to any show. When people ask me why I go to so many shows and concerts now, I say it is because of Prince, because I never expected to lose him so soon and now I want to see everyone I can, before it is too late. I truly believe it is the fans who will keep him alive, not his associates.
I've got decals on my car too. In fact I'm looking for a spot for my newest one.
Purple has always been my favorite color, AND I just got 2 new shirts when I was on vacation last week, which excited me to no end, ... my kids not so much.
You're so right when you say it's the fans who will keep him alive.
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Reply #1705 posted 07/20/18 7:20am
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1Sasha said:
purplefam99 said:
anyone celebrate the day of the dead?? or see the movie coco? We have to talk about
the dead to keep them alive. We must keep speaking of our dead. that keeps them alive.
it is not that people aren't moving on. People in all the various ways keep Prince alive by
speaking about him. When any discussion is inhibited on the grounds that people need to move on that is really the death of Prince. So to all who have said he is not dead, they are correct, as long
as we keep talking and discussing. My mother is so very much alive in the hearts of my kids because i speak of her so frequently. imo
[Edited 7/19/18 11:35am]
I have Prince decals on my car. I still use purple paper to send out invoices from my company - I started that after April 2016. I sign my correspondence in purple ink, too. I usually wear a Prince tee shirt to any show. When people ask me why I go to so many shows and concerts now, I say it is because of Prince, because I never expected to lose him so soon and now I want to see everyone I can, before it is too late. I truly believe it is the fans who will keep him alive, not his associates.
Why after April 2016? It should have been done during "The Time" he was "Here On Earth". "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Reply #1706 posted 07/20/18 7:22am
PennyPurple |
ChocolateBox3121 said:
1Sasha said:
I have Prince decals on my car. I still use purple paper to send out invoices from my company - I started that after April 2016. I sign my correspondence in purple ink, too. I usually wear a Prince tee shirt to any show. When people ask me why I go to so many shows and concerts now, I say it is because of Prince, because I never expected to lose him so soon and now I want to see everyone I can, before it is too late. I truly believe it is the fans who will keep him alive, not his associates.
Why after April 2016? It should have been done during "The Time" he was "Here On Earth".
Just thought I'd catch your quote before you deleted it. |
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Reply #1707 posted 07/20/18 7:25am
ThatWhiteDude |
PennyPurple said:
ChocolateBox3121 said:
Why after April 2016? It should have been done during "The Time" he was "Here On Earth".
Just thought I'd catch your quote before you deleted it.
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Reply #1708 posted 07/20/18 8:16am
1Sasha |
ChocolateBox3121 said:
1Sasha said:
I have Prince decals on my car. I still use purple paper to send out invoices from my company - I started that after April 2016. I sign my correspondence in purple ink, too. I usually wear a Prince tee shirt to any show. When people ask me why I go to so many shows and concerts now, I say it is because of Prince, because I never expected to lose him so soon and now I want to see everyone I can, before it is too late. I truly believe it is the fans who will keep him alive, not his associates.
Why after April 2016? It should have been done during "The Time" he was "Here On Earth".
It never occurred to me to do it for him, or any other artist, frankly. I didn't realize how much he meant to me until after he left us. I can't make up for that, but I can do something here and there to remember him. |
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Reply #1709 posted 07/20/18 8:34am
ThatWhiteDude |
1Sasha said:
ChocolateBox3121 said:
Why after April 2016? It should have been done during "The Time" he was "Here On Earth".
It never occurred to me to do it for him, or any other artist, frankly. I didn't realize how much he meant to me until after he left us. I can't make up for that, but I can do something here and there to remember him.
Exactly. |
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