Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

precioux said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I agree. I think it was an assumption that P had vomit in his mouth therefore any liquid found near him was vomit that came from him. Too many assumptions...

It was NOT an assumption that P had vomit in his mouth, that is documented...like I said, it was found in 'his airways'

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Thanks, Precioux, I stand corrected....is there proof that the liquid in the elevator was genetically (DNA) linked to Prince?

ThatWhiteDude said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I agree. I think it was an assumption that P had vomit in his mouth therefore any liquid found near him was vomit that came from him. Too many assumptions...

THIS. They made mistakes, they wasted time, they didn't interview some people......they simply didn't really care (at least so it seems).

When I read the files I was shocked about two things: 1. What kind of people did he have around in his last years? 2. That's the worst police work I've ever come across.

There were a lot of moments where you could really say that Kirk was lying, but one really stood out to me and that was when they asked him about the medics against anxiety or something. He at first said he got them for Prince but can't remember the name (okay that's possible), but he then said, he has them at home and then when they asked further questions he said, he probably threw them away.

I don't remember everything, but did they talk about them medics in the docs? Did they actually say where they were found? Was it true what KJ said?

yes, there are interviews with the medics - for example( to give you one more to add to your list)- KJ swore he didn't know a damn thing about Prince and opiods, yet admtted to a medic that 'He (Prince) took a couple of Percocets after shows to relax'

PennyPurple said:

Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

does that mean 3 different individuals had their hands on the pills? If so, was the DNA matched to anyone who worked for Prince? Or anyone who flew infrom CA to visit on occasion?

Could some of the DNA be from the manufacturers and distributors of the drug? I imagine they use gloves but if Prince was going to some local lab, then maybe not. One would think DEA would swab the associates to see if the DNA matched. Who knows maybe the pills came from a friend's stash and its the "friend" whose DNA is on the pills.

PennyPurple said:

Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

precioux said:

It was NOT an assumption that P had vomit in his mouth, that is documented...like I said, it was found in 'his airways'

[Edited 7/16/18 17:08pm]

Thanks, Precioux, I stand corrected....is there proof that the liquid in the elevator was genetically (DNA) linked to Prince?

Penny and I have been trying to get that. As she posted a couple up (look where she stated), there is mention of different DNA being found on pills and whatnot- but we haven't found who the DNA belongs to (minus Prince). Go look at the zip 5 subponeas (pg 92? 26a&b, etc) - there's so much that needs to be matched up, it's going to take a while.

PennyPurple said:[quote]

precioux said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I'm not being condescending or sarcastic but many areas of PP clearly hadn't be cleaned in a LONG time, there was obvious evidence that routine maintenance/cleaning had been deferred for who knows how long...ANYONE in PP could have thrown up in the elevator and if there was no housekeeping staff to wipe down those panels on the regular...well, there it sat until...

I can see that, but damn..

But I find it hard to believe there was no trace of undigested pills...really hard to believe.

It didn't look like vomit was on his dark clothing. It would've showed up because the vomit looked clearish/white.

Kirk, Andrew & Meron just got back from breakfast, so if it was any of their's surely there would be food mixed in it.

I still can't find the results from the spoons, it did mention them.

Also trying to put together, what the 3 different DNA's were found on? It was Prince's and 2 others.

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There is nothing mentioned in investigation or ME report that there was vomit found on his clothing or in his mouth/nasal passages, etc. So unless that is something mentioned in the full autopsy report for some reason, I am assuming it is old and had not been cleaned up.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

does that mean 3 different individuals had their hands on the pills? If so, was the DNA matched to anyone who worked for Prince? Or anyone who flew infrom CA to visit on occasion?

They didn't collect DNA from anybody but Prince, and during the autopsy they failed to get P's fingerprints.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

I didn't see that they said ( and the people around him surely did not submit to DNA tests.) I wonder if the LE touched the tissue without gloves. If anyone had gone to court for Ps death, defense lawyers would have had a field day going after the LEs missteps and incompetence.

PennyPurple said:

Isn't that ME procedure 101 in an unnatural death? Doesn't give one much confidence in the whole investigation.
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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Lovejunky said:

AND

WHere does it state the the Fluid on the walls of the elevator WAS Actually VOMIT ???????????????

THat has been ASSUMED throughout this thread but WHO SAID IT WAS...???

THAT FLUID was tested...NO FENTANYL PRESENT

there for

since we are assuming and assuming..

Im gonna assume that Fluid was NOT VOMIT....

Exactly!

Sweetheart, I hate to bust you and Lovejunky's bubble, but if you would go read for yourself, you would see this was within minutes of P being taken out of the elvevator/witnesses by the detective/ME. Unless KJ stood over Prince and vomited on the wall, it was P's vomit. The medics didn't even work on him in the elevator, rather pulled him out, and I think we would know by now if it was a medic's puke.

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said:

I can see that, but damn..

But I find it hard to believe there was no trace of undigested pills...really hard to believe.

It didn't look like vomit was on his dark clothing. It would've showed up because the vomit looked clearish/white.

Kirk, Andrew & Meron just got back from breakfast, so if it was any of their's surely there would be food mixed in it.

I still can't find the results from the spoons, it did mention them.

Also trying to put together, what the 3 different DNA's were found on? It was Prince's and 2 others.

[/quote There is nothing mentioned in investigation or ME report that there was vomit found on his clothing or in his mouth/nasal passages, etc. So unless that is something mentioned in the full autopsy report for some reason, I am assuming it is old and had not been cleaned up.

I don't know where you're getting your info from, but vomit was clearly documented to have been found in Prince's airway.

Camileyun said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

does that mean 3 different individuals had their hands on the pills? If so, was the DNA matched to anyone who worked for Prince? Or anyone who flew infrom CA to visit on occasion?

I didn't see that they said ( and the people around him surely did not submit to DNA tests.) I wonder if the LE touched the tissue without gloves. If anyone had gone to court for Ps death, defense lawyers would have had a field day going after the LEs missteps and incompetence.

LE documented that they put on gloves prior to searching...it's in there

precioux said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Exactly!

Sweetheart, I hate to bust you and Lovejunky's bubble, but if you would go read for yourself, you would see this was within minutes of P being taken out of the elvevator/witnesses by the detective/ME. Unless KJ stood over Prince and vomited on the wall, it was P's vomit. The medics didn't even work on him in the elevator, rather pulled him out, and I think we would know by now if it was a medic's puke.

DARLINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I HAVE READ FOR MY OWN SELF and NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT THE FLUID ON THE WALL HAS BEEN CONFIRMED AS VOMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has been ASSUMED BY People like YOU

but never confirmed.....

precioux said:

Hmmm- that's interesting!

precioux said:

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said:

It didn't look like vomit was on his dark clothing. It would've showed up because the vomit looked clearish/white.

Kirk, Andrew & Meron just got back from breakfast, so if it was any of their's surely there would be food mixed in it.

I still can't find the results from the spoons, it did mention them.

Also trying to put together, what the 3 different DNA's were found on? It was Prince's and 2 others.

[/quote There is nothing mentioned in investigation or ME report that there was vomit found on his clothing or in his mouth/nasal passages, etc. So unless that is something mentioned in the full autopsy report for some reason, I am assuming it is old and had not been cleaned up.

I don't know where you're getting your info from, but vomit was clearly documented to have been found in Prince's airway.

Vomit was documented in his MOUTH

precioux said:

This is not my quote...
Although I did post previously (either beginning of this thread or in part 10) questioning whether or not it was noted if he had aspirated.

PennyPurple said:

Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

invest file #1 or #2, not finding that on pg 57

precioux said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Thanks, Precioux, I stand corrected....is there proof that the liquid in the elevator was genetically (DNA) linked to Prince?

Penny and I have been trying to get that. As she posted a couple up (look where she stated), there is mention of different DNA being found on pills and whatnot- but we haven't found who the DNA belongs to (minus Prince). Go look at the zip 5 subponeas (pg 92? 26a&b, etc) - there's so much that needs to be matched up, it's going to take a while.

Precioux look at zip 5 investigative documents around page 112 + or - and it gives some more results.

Lovejunky said:

precioux said:

I don't know where you're getting your info from, but vomit was clearly documented to have been found in Prince's airway.

Vomit was documented in his MOUTH

source? I've read it 3 times today, and it stated airway by the interviewee...at least you're not denying it any longer

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Penny and I have been trying to get that. As she posted a couple up (look where she stated), there is mention of different DNA being found on pills and whatnot- but we haven't found who the DNA belongs to (minus Prince). Go look at the zip 5 subponeas (pg 92? 26a&b, etc) - there's so much that needs to be matched up, it's going to take a while.

Precioux look at zip 5 investigative documents around page 112 + or - and it gives some more results.

will do.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Lovejunky said:

AND

WHere does it state the the Fluid on the walls of the elevator WAS Actually VOMIT ???????????????

THat has been ASSUMED throughout this thread but WHO SAID IT WAS...???

THAT FLUID was tested...NO FENTANYL PRESENT

there for

since we are assuming and assuming..

Im gonna assume that Fluid was NOT VOMIT....

I agree. I think it was an assumption that P had vomit in his mouth therefore any liquid found near him was vomit that came from him. Too many assumptions...

NO

THat is NOT an Assumption

That has been confirmed and documented

HOWEVER

THere is NOTHING to confirm the FLuid on the walls was his vomit...

In fact...

Since that fluid tested NEGATIVE FOR ANY Controlled or UNCOTROLLED Substances

we can safely ASSUME it was NOT Ps VOMIT...

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

Zipfile 5 page 57 investigative documents #112

The 15 pills wrapped in tissue found in his jewelry box had a DNA mixture of 3 different individuals.

invest file #1 or #2, not finding that on pg 57

Sorry zip 5 file #2 under investigative reports. #112

precioux said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

THIS. They made mistakes, they wasted time, they didn't interview some people......they simply didn't really care (at least so it seems).

When I read the files I was shocked about two things: 1. What kind of people did he have around in his last years? 2. That's the worst police work I've ever come across.

There were a lot of moments where you could really say that Kirk was lying, but one really stood out to me and that was when they asked him about the medics against anxiety or something. He at first said he got them for Prince but can't remember the name (okay that's possible), but he then said, he has them at home and then when they asked further questions he said, he probably threw them away.

I don't remember everything, but did they talk about them medics in the docs? Did they actually say where they were found? Was it true what KJ said?

yes, there are interviews with the medics - for example( to give you one more to add to your list)- KJ swore he didn't know a damn thing about Prince and opiods, yet admtted to a medic that 'He (Prince) took a couple of Percocets after shows to relax'

Damn it Kirk is such a moronm, didn't even have his facts straight.

kmama07 said:

Apologies!
I obviously need to proof read before sending as well.
Been off for about three weeks due to medical issue and trying to get caught up. I DO agree he had vomit.
I Don't know why Vomit was not cleaned from elevator, or the tested vomit was not noted with any significant finding, if noted at all. I have not gone back to read documents in the last three weeks although had done several times before signing off. I'll continue to lurk so as not to jump in on ongoing conversation I haven't caught up on.
I am not a troll.

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

does that mean 3 different individuals had their hands on the pills? If so, was the DNA matched to anyone who worked for Prince? Or anyone who flew infrom CA to visit on occasion?

They didn't collect DNA from anybody but Prince, and during the autopsy they failed to get P's fingerprints.

I really want to go to Minneapolis just to give them a slap. This is NOT how you do your job.

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Penny and I have been trying to get that. As she posted a couple up (look where she stated), there is mention of different DNA being found on pills and whatnot- but we haven't found who the DNA belongs to (minus Prince). Go look at the zip 5 subponeas (pg 92? 26a&b, etc) - there's so much that needs to be matched up, it's going to take a while.

Precioux look at zip 5 investigative documents around page 112 + or - and it gives some more results.

Ahh, it's investigative file#2= going on hunt again

kmama07 said:

This is not my quote... Although I did post previously (either beginning of this thread or in part 10) questioning whether or not it was noted if he had aspirated.

Kmama, it's not unusual for the quotes to get mixed/messed up on this forum. It happens all the time.

precioux said:

Lovejunky said:

Vomit was documented in his MOUTH

source? I've read it 3 times today, and it stated airway by the interviewee...at least you're not denying it any longer

Ive never denied what Is there for all to read in black and white

but Ill never support assumptions being presented as fact !!!!!

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

They didn't collect DNA from anybody but Prince, and during the autopsy they failed to get P's fingerprints.

I really want to go to Minneapolis just to give them a slap. This is NOT how you do your job.

Well the fingerprints should've been taken during the autopsy.

I mean really, when my dad died, the funeral home had his fingerprints because I ordered a necklace with his fingerprint on it, from them.