The MeToo# movement shows how even such vile behavior could be hushed up, even in recent years. I would think most celebrities are more aware that their lives are transparent - heck, even we non-famous people have to lead transparent lives.

So the only beautiful side he had was his talent (and that talent didn't come from him or his hard work but from God) Why would God bless a woman-beating bully with that kind of talent? . These days that belief that an artist has no redeemable characteristics beyond his talent has ruined careers. The talent comes from the man and is part of the man, period. He is not a vessel. I find it weird that no benefit of the doubt is ever given him. I am in no way saying he wasn't immensely flawed but I refuse to beleive every negative rumor about him just because he had a great many flaws. I used to steal food from the fast food restaurant I worked out, that doesn't mean I am guilt of robbing banks. I used to smoke pot; that doesn't mean I smoked crack. I have a temper; it doesn't mean I abuse my boyfriends. I have been accused of stuff I didn't do because of misunderstandings. It happens.

Krystalkisses said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Thanks for the kind words re our 'tough love' for Prince and his fans and I agree you you 1000% that his artistic contribution to the workd will stand for generations to come as something special, his most generous gift to humanity...and touched by God.

Yes! His art will transcend the human failings of it's creator because it was deeper truly from GOD who used the person (Prince) to get to the world (us) to inspire, connect emotionally, and get us to SEE. I truly wish all of these associates and people protecting his image would understand that. I don't understand why they are still fiercely guarding this IMAGE he wanted to sell. It is like he has a hold on them from beyond the GRAVE!!!! (Or Urn) It really is all so weird. When the real truth comes out what is going to be so deeply shocking about him that they would feel like it would unrecoverable? Did he murder someone? Did he secretly worship Lucifer? Did he bath in young maidens' blood????? What could be so bad? It seemed like the reality is he was a narcotics, cocaine addict, who fucked hot women, got off on strange porn, had a bad temper and could be abusive to some of his women and employees ( based on rumors). Is that IT??? Because if it was none of that takes away from the music because that is a unique, personal relationship each individual fan has with his work. Maybe our opinion will be altered by the truth of who he was as a person but Prince was really an IMAGE, a sexy, glamorous Ken Doll with enormous talents! Miles Davis, James Brown were no angels either but who cares!!!!??? There will be initial shock but the majority will get over it and just accept. He had a beautiful side and a horrible side. The truth can be oh so beautiful! You guys keep up the tough love!

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[Edited 7/10/18 12:47pm]

luv4u said:

It can be hushed up to an extent. But there is often a paper trail dating back years. Weinstein was in and out of court as was Cosby. I remember recently watching a DL hughley interview and he had a verbal spat with Cosby years ago on radio. It was taken down but he recalled it with details and there were witnesses. He was calling him out for rape accusations. Hughley also made that point that rape accusations were printed in magazines and newspapers about cosby beut they were often in the back and discrete...almost in a dismissive way. Chronic abusive behavior can only be covered up for so long. Courntey love in 2004 stated on the red carpet that women should avoid going to hotel rooms with Harvey. she got booted from her agency as a result. But she said. I have seen the clip. There is always a trail and rarely is it one or two spitful folks saying that stuff. Its many many people eventually who come forward. Spilling tea in books etc can get you more good press than selling an image. But I also caution to take everything with a certain grain of salt, sometimes even those spilling tea are feeding you a line of shit.

1Sasha said:

The MeToo# movement shows how even such vile behavior could be hushed up, even in recent years. I would think most celebrities are more aware that their lives are transparent - heck, even we non-famous people have to lead transparent lives.

[Edited 7/10/18 12:35pm]

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

I am not sure where this sanctification is coming from. After he died, there was some. Maybe in his prime, teenage girls idiolized him. But in the years between, most folks acknowledged his eccentricity and talent but few thought he was Tom-Hanks like lovable. I have read comments sections on him that have called him weird, a has-been, a "fag", pretentious, crazy, and a transexual...and this was when he was alive and the picture was of him just hanging out at a basketball game with Denzel Washington.

Nuernberg72 said:

P will always be like everyone remembers. Everyone has their version of P. And no book or interview will give you what you want. There will always be more questions that nobody can answer. But I think P would be fun if he knew how his fans are looking for the truth.

SkipperLove said:

All I am saying is give the man the benefit of the doubt. The folks around him are complicated just like he was. Drugs, fame, enabling, mental illness, emotional issues...all this stuff is complicated. Don't assume the worst stories are automatically true just to brace yourself for the worst.

Krystalkisses said:

SkipperLove said:

So the only beautiful side he had was his talent. These days that belief has ruined careers.

Ofcourse not. His beautiful side included much-his philanthropy, his compassion, his mentoring, his belief in others, his tenderness. I'm just saying just give us the truth in it's totality the GOOD and the BAD. Because there is beauty (and brutality) in honesty. But he was a complex man. What I'm saying is stop infantizing his loyal fans but trying to protect this falsehood of what HE only wanted us to see. At this point it is just ridiculous because he is elevated with God now. He doesn't even care about petty stuff like his career, image, things of this world anymore. And yes maybe some will be creeped out but like I said so what? It doesn't even matter. Prince is even STILL a sexual fantasy of mine, a creative inspiration and a spiritual mentor to me, but all of that is not HIM but my own imagination and I'm in control of that. So the human Prince can not destroy that by his human frailties or his bizarre character. Our take away is unique and special to US. He was radically different than I imagined him from the information I've learned, yes it is shocking, yes it's unnerving but I am dealing with amd i will be FINE. We all will be fine, because Prince is not my GOD only Jesus Christ.

disch said:

Page 58, Dr S recounting the April 20 appointment: "Prince denied any nausea, vomiting or diarrhea but was asking about opioid withdrawal symptoms."

PennyPurple said:

No, I thought Dr S figured out it was withdrawal, I don't remember seeing where P asked specifically about withdrawel. (maybe I missed it)

Page 118 in zipfile5 Statement Transcripts

Dr. S indicated that he (Dr. S) was asking about withdrawal symptoms.

P didn't even admit to anything other then Tylenol with Dr. S. the dr asked if the Tylenol had something else in it, and P said he did not know.

Edited to Add: that I believe something was lost in the transcription between these 2 pages. I still do not believe P was asking about opioid withdrawal symptoms, since he never admitted to taking opioids.

[Edited 7/10/18 13:27pm]

Pg 176 “I asked Kiran if she had known about his drug addiction or had seen anything suspicious during her six years of managing Prince. Kiran said the only thing she recalls was back in 2007, when she was just getting involved with Prince, she remembered an incident where Prince was found walking aroundPaisley Park naked, complaining he was hot and that it had to do with a prescription drug he was taking”.

“Kiran said that she would contact Doctors while Prince was on tour to set up B-12 shots for Prince and the rest of the band as they would get worn down. Kiran explained that was common.”

“Kiran told me she asked Phaedra about managing Prince’s money because if Prince would have been the one to purchase the drugs, he would have had to get money from Phaedra as the manager. According to Kiran, Phaedra had shared that Prince recently requested $60,000 as petty cash.

Pg 178 “I informed Debra of our investigation into Prince’s death and asked Debra if she knew of Prince’s drug use. Debra told me she recalled once, Prince asking one of her associates where he could get some pain pills, but Debra told her associate that they should not get involved and that Prince could get pain pills legally from his doctor.”

“Debra advised that Prince would often request large cash advances and what Prince purchased with the cash advances were never documented.”

“I began by asking if she knew Prince was addicted to pain pills. Crystal seemed hesitant to discuss Prince’s personal issues, but ultimately told me “yes”, stating she had to be honest with me, According to Crystal “everyone knew Prince was addicted to pain pills”. Crystal told me that was one of the reasons she quit in 2012, telling Phaedra Ellis Lamkins, who was just coming on, that she did not want to be a “drug dealer”. I asked Crystal to explain. Crystal told me that Prince never asked her directly to get him pain pills, nor did she or would she have ever gotten Prince pain pills knowing he was an addict.- Crystal said Prince was able to get his pills from doctors he would have and other assistants set up for him. Crystal said Prince would ask her or others to set up doctor’s appointments for Prince with various doctors who would meet with Prince whether here in Minnesota or on the road. Crystal said she was never present in any of the appointments, it was only Prince and the doctor.”

“ Crystal said Prince was in a lot of pain and would complain about his hip pain. Crystal said, “I knew he had a substance abuse problem”. Crystal told me if during this investigation, I spoke with someone who worked with Prince and they told me that they did not know Prince had a drug problem, that those people were lying to me. I asked about Kirk Johnson and asked if she thought Kirk Johnson knew about Prince’s drug problem. Crystal said “of course he knew” . Crystal said Kirk Johnson was one of Prince’s oldest friends. Crystal told me Kirk Johnson had called her the day before Prince died and told her that they were trying to find Prince help. Crystal said after Prince’s death, both Kirk Johnson and Phaedra Lamkins minimized their knowledge of Prince’s drug addiction to protect themselves.”

Pg. 179” I asked Theo about Prince’ drug use and if Prince ever asked Theo to get him drugs. Theo told me that Prince asked Theo once to get him something for his pain. Theo said he bought Prince Tylenol and Prince got angry with Theo, stating he needed something stronger.”

“Theo told me during the phone call that he knew Prince had a lot of back pain and that Prince would ask Theo and other assistants to contact doctors, including one doctor that Prince saw regularly from Minneapolis. Theo explained Prince would also ask to see the venue doctor while on tour. Theo explained every venue has a doctor on staff. According to Theo, sometimes Prince would see the venue doctor and request a B12 shot, other times Prince would say he wanted to see a different doctor and sometimes Prince would fly out the doctor from Minneapolis.”

“ Theo said he had also heard Phaedra talk about locking down Paisley Park the following day and that they would be going through and “cleaning up rooms”. Theo said Phaedra asked Kirk who was the last one on Prince’s computer and mentioned that she would go through Prince’s computer and “take care of it”.

Pg 181 “Theo told me Judith told Phaedra that the doctor in Moline, Illinois said “it was dire” that Prince get help. According to Theo, Phaedra laughed it off and told Judith that Prince was just sleeping on the plane and did not "need any help. Theo said Phaedra “would not budge until it was too late”.

“Mariah told me she was still working with an Attorney regarding what Phaedra had done. Mariah told me “she’s not my favorite” and described Phaedra as doing a lot of “shady things” and talking about how “manipulative” Phaedra was.”

Pg. 191 “Sheila told me the last time she and Prince performed together was the “21 nights”at the Forum in May and June 2011. Sheila told me that, during that time me she was upset with Prince because she could tell he was “taking something”; he was not the Prince she knew. Sheila describedPrince’s behavior as being “weird and loopy” and they had gotten into an argument.”

“ Sheila explained back in the days, the people who were working for Prince would obtain prescription pills for Prince and would put the prescriptions in their names.”

Pg. 192 “During the Investigation, it should be noted that the US Attorney’s Office has reached out to Kirk Johnson, Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure’s attorney’s to request a statement. At the time of this report, Kirk Johnson provided an initial statement at the scene but has refused all subsequent attempts to speak with him. Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure have never been willing to provide a statement to law enforcement.”

Thank you Cami! That right there shows he's had a problem for a looong time.

P. was addicted to opiods, and was getting them where ever he could. He was doctor shopping (for someone paranoid about going to the doctor, he sure saw alot of them - I'd go as far as to say he saw doctors more than I ever have in my lifetime, and I've had 3 kids!!) He surrounded himself with people who would enable his habit, and I personally have no doubt KJ, Phaedra and Meron were complicit in enabling his procurement of drugs, even if they looked the other way while helping. For me, there is no mystery and I hope the 3 of them feel proud of themselves. And their refusal to give statements (yes, Seahorsie) speaks volumes!! Forgive the long post, I had to organize it all in my own mind.

[Edited 7/10/18 13:52pm]

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Cami! That right there shows he's had a problem for a looong time.

You're welcome - and everyone around him knew.

Camileyun said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Cami! That right there shows he's had a problem for a looong time.

You're welcome - and everyone around him knew.

I've been saying this for two years but your post encapsulated the reality perfectly...he was in a bubble of denial...even when, toward the end, he found himself wanting to nod off rather that perform...does it get any more tragic than that? Oh yeah...he had no one who REALLY cared about him as a man despite all the joy and happiness he brought to literally millions of people.. Tears Go Here.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Camileyun said:

You're welcome - and everyone around him knew.

I've been saying this for two years but your post encapsulated the reality perfectly...he was in a bubble of denial...even when, toward the end, he found himself wanting to nod off rather that perform...does it get any more tragic than that? Oh yeah...he had no one who REALLY cared about him as a man despite all the joy and happiness he brought to literally millions of people.. Tears Go Here.

he had more than all of us combined times a million. He didn't keep any good people around him.

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Cami! That right there shows he's had a problem for a looong time.

[snip - luv4u]

ya, strange reason for people to smack themselves on the back.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Cami! That right there shows he's had a problem for a looong time.

[Snip - luv4u]

Here you are again just popping in to insult, you add nothing of any value to the conversation.

Why would I celebrate the death of one of the most talented, genius, sexy, coolest musician of all time, who I adore to this day?

You are nothing but a shti stirrer.

Camileyun said:

P. was addicted to opiods, and was getting them where ever he could. He was doctor shopping (for someone paranoid about going to the doctor, he sure saw alot of them - I'd go as far as to say he saw doctors more than I ever have in my lifetime, and I've had 3 kids!!) He surrounded himself with people who would enable his habit, and I personally have no doubt KJ, Phaedra and Meron were complicit in enabling his procurement of drugs, even if they looked the other way while helping. For me, there is no mystery and I hope the 3 of them feel proud of themselves. And their refusal to give statements (yes, Seahorsie) speaks volumes!! Forgive the long post, I had to organize it all in my own mind.

[Edited 7/10/18 13:52pm]

All the ASSociates care about is making $$ off of him even in death. They should be ashamed, but they are not. It's the almighty $$ that's in their eyes.

Camileyun said:

Pg 176 “I asked Kiran if she had known about his drug addiction or had seen anything suspicious during her six years of managing Prince. Kiran said the only thing she recalls was back in 2007, when she was just getting involved with Prince, she remembered an incident where Prince was found walking aroundPaisley Park naked, complaining he was hot and that it had to do with a prescription drug he was taking”.

“Kiran said that she would contact Doctors while Prince was on tour to set up B-12 shots for Prince and the rest of the band as they would get worn down. Kiran explained that was common.”

“Kiran told me she asked Phaedra about managing Prince’s money because if Prince would have been the one to purchase the drugs, he would have had to get money from Phaedra as the manager. According to Kiran, Phaedra had shared that Prince recently requested $60,000 as petty cash.

Pg 178 “I informed Debra of our investigation into Prince’s death and asked Debra if she knew of Prince’s drug use. Debra told me she recalled once, Prince asking one of her associates where he could get some pain pills, but Debra told her associate that they should not get involved and that Prince could get pain pills legally from his doctor.”

“Debra advised that Prince would often request large cash advances and what Prince purchased with the cash advances were never documented.”

“I began by asking if she knew Prince was addicted to pain pills. Crystal seemed hesitant to discuss Prince’s personal issues, but ultimately told me “yes”, stating she had to be honest with me, According to Crystal “everyone knew Prince was addicted to pain pills”. Crystal told me that was one of the reasons she quit in 2012, telling Phaedra Ellis Lamkins, who was just coming on, that she did not want to be a “drug dealer”. I asked Crystal to explain. Crystal told me that Prince never asked her directly to get him pain pills, nor did she or would she have ever gotten Prince pain pills knowing he was an addict.- Crystal said Prince was able to get his pills from doctors he would have and other assistants set up for him. Crystal said Prince would ask her or others to set up doctor’s appointments for Prince with various doctors who would meet with Prince whether here in Minnesota or on the road. Crystal said she was never present in any of the appointments, it was only Prince and the doctor.”

“ Crystal said Prince was in a lot of pain and would complain about his hip pain. Crystal said, “I knew he had a substance abuse problem”. Crystal told me if during this investigation, I spoke with someone who worked with Prince and they told me that they did not know Prince had a drug problem, that those people were lying to me. I asked about Kirk Johnson and asked if she thought Kirk Johnson knew about Prince’s drug problem. Crystal said “of course he knew” . Crystal said Kirk Johnson was one of Prince’s oldest friends. Crystal told me Kirk Johnson had called her the day before Prince died and told her that they were trying to find Prince help. Crystal said after Prince’s death, both Kirk Johnson and Phaedra Lamkins minimized their knowledge of Prince’s drug addiction to protect themselves.”

Pg. 179” I asked Theo about Prince’ drug use and if Prince ever asked Theo to get him drugs. Theo told me that Prince asked Theo once to get him something for his pain. Theo said he bought Prince Tylenol and Prince got angry with Theo, stating he needed something stronger.”

“Theo told me during the phone call that he knew Prince had a lot of back pain and that Prince would ask Theo and other assistants to contact doctors, including one doctor that Prince saw regularly from Minneapolis. Theo explained Prince would also ask to see the venue doctor while on tour. Theo explained every venue has a doctor on staff. According to Theo, sometimes Prince would see the venue doctor and request a B12 shot, other times Prince would say he wanted to see a different doctor and sometimes Prince would fly out the doctor from Minneapolis.”

“ Theo said he had also heard Phaedra talk about locking down Paisley Park the following day and that they would be going through and “cleaning up rooms”. Theo said Phaedra asked Kirk who was the last one on Prince’s computer and mentioned that she would go through Prince’s computer and “take care of it”.

Pg 181 “Theo told me Judith told Phaedra that the doctor in Moline, Illinois said “it was dire” that Prince get help. According to Theo, Phaedra laughed it off and told Judith that Prince was just sleeping on the plane and did not "need any help. Theo said Phaedra “would not budge until it was too late”.

“Mariah told me she was still working with an Attorney regarding what Phaedra had done. Mariah told me “she’s not my favorite” and described Phaedra as doing a lot of “shady things” and talking about how “manipulative” Phaedra was.”

Pg. 191 “Sheila told me the last time she and Prince performed together was the “21 nights”at the Forum in May and June 2011. Sheila told me that, during that time me she was upset with Prince because she could tell he was “taking something”; he was not the Prince she knew. Sheila describedPrince’s behavior as being “weird and loopy” and they had gotten into an argument.”

“ Sheila explained back in the days, the people who were working for Prince would obtain prescription pills for Prince and would put the prescriptions in their names.”

Pg. 192 “During the Investigation, it should be noted that the US Attorney’s Office has reached out to Kirk Johnson, Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure’s attorney’s to request a statement. At the time of this report, Kirk Johnson provided an initial statement at the scene but has refused all subsequent attempts to speak with him. Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure have never been willing to provide a statement to law enforcement.”

Who is this Theo???

That bolded part above of him walking around naked back in 2007 must have been a sight to see!

[Edited 7/10/18 16:00pm]

I wish Meron, Phaedra and Kirk were forced to answer questions. IF they enabled him as badly and were as shady as these previous assistants state then they need to be called to task. If they did the best they could to help, then they need to defend themselves. I can't help but think of the possibility that these previous folks are trying to shift a bit of blame from themselves. Kiran saying the only time she saw Prince act in a addict-like way was when she first started in 2007 doesn't sound accurate since other people attribute his worst times drug wise to be 2010-2011. Either she is just mixing up her dates or playing down his drug usage during her reign. It sounds like she worked out of Europe and may not have been his only manager/assistant at the time but how do we know Prince didn't ask for petty cash or see Dr. FeelGood's during her time with him.. I think what hinders our understanding is the fear of incrimination that associates have. There are people who think that procuring pain pills for chronic sufferers is not a sin or crime in or of itself if it is done responsibly as possible and through doctors. But it is really stigmatized now so those people who didn't see it as a sin when they did it will not come forward now and explain their justifications. . I sometimes wonder if P would still be alive if Crystal had just continued to get him doctors willing to give him pain pills and if more people had gotten through to him about taking more time off. I think KIrk knew more than he claimed but was not the direct enabler he has been made out to be..I think he was overwhelmed and confused about what P was on at the time. I think possibly P's issue was off and on and at one point he was cut off from med's from some of the doctors he went to so he turned to street drugs using the petty cash that his assistants gave him and turned a blind eye to. Phaedra sounds shady, manipulative, and in denial about the urgency of his problem. Meron just sounds like she will go along with anything and that she steals. Van sounds like a figurehead. I just looked up Zehetner's facebook and she was posting positive stuff about Van in 2012 and 2013, so I am not sure he knew how shady Phaedra was..(maybe the reason he stated he felt guilt when Prince died.) As for the stuff, debra said. She wasn't in his employ anymore so I take that with a grain of salt. The reality is that maybe everyone could have done a bit more and there is a lot of guilt out there amongst them..therefore the reason they throw others under the bus or forgive other enablers. Yes, people are making money off his death but some people have expressed some guilt about it (Morris Hayes implied it recently.) I imagine associates have mixed feelings about this whole thing, the fame around PRince, the need to work, the longing to spread love for his music, what they could have done, what they could have done differently. I do agree that people should be encouraged to speak more openly about the complexity of drug dependence, pain, fame, and powerful figures like Prince.

Camileyun said:

Pg 176 “I asked Kiran if she had known about his drug addiction or had seen anything suspicious during her six years of managing Prince. Kiran said the only thing she recalls was back in 2007, when she was just getting involved with Prince, she remembered an incident where Prince was found walking aroundPaisley Park naked, complaining he was hot and that it had to do with a prescription drug he was taking”.

“Kiran said that she would contact Doctors while Prince was on tour to set up B-12 shots for Prince and the rest of the band as they would get worn down. Kiran explained that was common.”

“Kiran told me she asked Phaedra about managing Prince’s money because if Prince would have been the one to purchase the drugs, he would have had to get money from Phaedra as the manager. According to Kiran, Phaedra had shared that Prince recently requested $60,000 as petty cash.

Pg 178 “I informed Debra of our investigation into Prince’s death and asked Debra if she knew of Prince’s drug use. Debra told me she recalled once, Prince asking one of her associates where he could get some pain pills, but Debra told her associate that they should not get involved and that Prince could get pain pills legally from his doctor.”

“Debra advised that Prince would often request large cash advances and what Prince purchased with the cash advances were never documented.”

“I began by asking if she knew Prince was addicted to pain pills. Crystal seemed hesitant to discuss Prince’s personal issues, but ultimately told me “yes”, stating she had to be honest with me, According to Crystal “everyone knew Prince was addicted to pain pills”. Crystal told me that was one of the reasons she quit in 2012, telling Phaedra Ellis Lamkins, who was just coming on, that she did not want to be a “drug dealer”. I asked Crystal to explain. Crystal told me that Prince never asked her directly to get him pain pills, nor did she or would she have ever gotten Prince pain pills knowing he was an addict.- Crystal said Prince was able to get his pills from doctors he would have and other assistants set up for him. Crystal said Prince would ask her or others to set up doctor’s appointments for Prince with various doctors who would meet with Prince whether here in Minnesota or on the road. Crystal said she was never present in any of the appointments, it was only Prince and the doctor.”

“ Crystal said Prince was in a lot of pain and would complain about his hip pain. Crystal said, “I knew he had a substance abuse problem”. Crystal told me if during this investigation, I spoke with someone who worked with Prince and they told me that they did not know Prince had a drug problem, that those people were lying to me. I asked about Kirk Johnson and asked if she thought Kirk Johnson knew about Prince’s drug problem. Crystal said “of course he knew” . Crystal said Kirk Johnson was one of Prince’s oldest friends. Crystal told me Kirk Johnson had called her the day before Prince died and told her that they were trying to find Prince help. Crystal said after Prince’s death, both Kirk Johnson and Phaedra Lamkins minimized their knowledge of Prince’s drug addiction to protect themselves.”

Pg. 179” I asked Theo about Prince’ drug use and if Prince ever asked Theo to get him drugs. Theo told me that Prince asked Theo once to get him something for his pain. Theo said he bought Prince Tylenol and Prince got angry with Theo, stating he needed something stronger.”

“Theo told me during the phone call that he knew Prince had a lot of back pain and that Prince would ask Theo and other assistants to contact doctors, including one doctor that Prince saw regularly from Minneapolis. Theo explained Prince would also ask to see the venue doctor while on tour. Theo explained every venue has a doctor on staff. According to Theo, sometimes Prince would see the venue doctor and request a B12 shot, other times Prince would say he wanted to see a different doctor and sometimes Prince would fly out the doctor from Minneapolis.”

“ Theo said he had also heard Phaedra talk about locking down Paisley Park the following day and that they would be going through and “cleaning up rooms”. Theo said Phaedra asked Kirk who was the last one on Prince’s computer and mentioned that she would go through Prince’s computer and “take care of it”.

Pg 181 “Theo told me Judith told Phaedra that the doctor in Moline, Illinois said “it was dire” that Prince get help. According to Theo, Phaedra laughed it off and told Judith that Prince was just sleeping on the plane and did not "need any help. Theo said Phaedra “would not budge until it was too late”.

“Mariah told me she was still working with an Attorney regarding what Phaedra had done. Mariah told me “she’s not my favorite” and described Phaedra as doing a lot of “shady things” and talking about how “manipulative” Phaedra was.”

Pg. 191 “Sheila told me the last time she and Prince performed together was the “21 nights”at the Forum in May and June 2011. Sheila told me that, during that time me she was upset with Prince because she could tell he was “taking something”; he was not the Prince she knew. Sheila describedPrince’s behavior as being “weird and loopy” and they had gotten into an argument.”

“ Sheila explained back in the days, the people who were working for Prince would obtain prescription pills for Prince and would put the prescriptions in their names.”

Pg. 192 “During the Investigation, it should be noted that the US Attorney’s Office has reached out to Kirk Johnson, Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure’s attorney’s to request a statement. At the time of this report, Kirk Johnson provided an initial statement at the scene but has refused all subsequent attempts to speak with him. Phaedra Lamkins and Meron Bekure have never been willing to provide a statement to law enforcement.”

[Edited 7/10/18 17:01pm]

[Edited 7/10/18 17:07pm]

Camileyun said:

P. was addicted to opiods, and was getting them where ever he could. He was doctor shopping (for someone paranoid about going to the doctor, he sure saw alot of them - I'd go as far as to say he saw doctors more than I ever have in my lifetime, and I've had 3 kids!!) He surrounded himself with people who would enable his habit, and I personally have no doubt KJ, Phaedra and Meron were complicit in enabling his procurement of drugs, even if they looked the other way while helping. For me, there is no mystery and I hope the 3 of them feel proud of themselves. And their refusal to give statements (yes, Seahorsie) speaks volumes!! Forgive the long post, I had to organize it all in my own mind.

[Edited 7/10/18 13:52pm]

I appreciate you taking the time to post the listing of associates revealing P's garning of opiates. That said, a few things came to mind:

1. I find it odd that there were several instances of P procuring $60,000 "petty cash" with no accounting of it. Evenmoreso that "Dr.D" stated Prince would "pay him for a 6 month supply with $-0,000 cash"...was it $40,000 or $60,000...either way, for Dr.D to come out with this within the week after P's death-then to have this high amount of petty cash cemented in interviews -liike I said, I don't believe in coincidences.

2. the statements basically are a fill in the blank of "Prince asked for doctor___" , be it flown in or whrerever.

3. There was a doctor who was shut down in Minnie and is currently in jail for prescribing pain meds hapazardly. I'm curious if this is the SAME doctor that Prince saw and was flying in on a whim, as stated by interviewees

precioux said:

I appreciate you taking the time to post the listing of associates revealing P's garning of opiates. That said, a few things came to mind:

1. I find it odd that there were several instances of P procuring $60,000 "petty cash" with no accounting of it. Evenmoreso that "Dr.D" stated Prince would "pay him for a 6 month supply with $-0,000 cash"...was it $40,000 or $60,000...either way, for Dr.D to come out with this within the week after P's death-then to have this high amount of petty cash cemented in interviews -liike I said, I don't believe in coincidences.

2. the statements basically are a fill in the blank of "Prince asked for doctor___" , be it flown in or whrerever.

3. There was a doctor who was shut down in Minnie and is currently in jail for prescribing pain meds hapazardly. I'm curious if this is the SAME doctor that Prince saw and was flying in on a whim, as stated by interviewees

I also find it odd that nobody remembers who this Dr. was.....

precioux said:

Camileyun said:

P. was addicted to opiods, and was getting them where ever he could. He was doctor shopping (for someone paranoid about going to the doctor, he sure saw alot of them - I'd go as far as to say he saw doctors more than I ever have in my lifetime, and I've had 3 kids!!) He surrounded himself with people who would enable his habit, and I personally have no doubt KJ, Phaedra and Meron were complicit in enabling his procurement of drugs, even if they looked the other way while helping. For me, there is no mystery and I hope the 3 of them feel proud of themselves. And their refusal to give statements (yes, Seahorsie) speaks volumes!! Forgive the long post, I had to organize it all in my own mind.

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I appreciate you taking the time to post the listing of associates revealing P's garning of opiates. That said, a few things came to mind:

1. I find it odd that there were several instances of P procuring $60,000 "petty cash" with no accounting of it. Evenmoreso that "Dr.D" stated Prince would "pay him for a 6 month supply with $-0,000 cash"...was it $40,000 or $60,000...either way, for Dr.D to come out with this within the week after P's death-then to have this high amount of petty cash cemented in interviews -liike I said, I don't believe in coincidences.

2. the statements basically are a fill in the blank of "Prince asked for doctor___" , be it flown in or whrerever.

3. There was a doctor who was shut down in Minnie and is currently in jail for prescribing pain meds hapazardly. I'm curious if this is the SAME doctor that Prince saw and was flying in on a whim, as stated by interviewees

you beat me to it re the Dr. D interview...so much of that interview has proved reliable info...Dr.D specifically mentioning drugs purchased in 6 month tranches and the disbursement of big chunks of cash to P is significant to me.

You know what I don't get? I've seen a lot of crime shows on TV, real crimes and there was one show that showed the interviews right after a crime. Now, the officers there would ask questions just like the officers did with Kirk and all the other people in the files. When they sensed a lie they would be harder on the person of interest.

Now coming to Kirk's Interview, I read it over and over again and there are points in that interview where I just thought: Right there, he's lying! Why wouldn't you go harder on him? Just put him under pressure.

Yes, Prince took them pills himself, but Kirk enabled it and I am sure he was the one, or among the ones that got these fentanyl laced pills for Prince. The fucked up thing is, if this was another scenario like, Prince killing himself with a gun and Kirk would've bought the gun for him, I think people would've cared much more like: "Hey man how could you buy the gun for the guy you called your friend? You knew exactly what would happen!"

To me it seems like they had no pressure to file any charges against anyone. I don't know if I am the only one who thinks the police did a lazy job. It seems like they could've done more.

But I think with the self inflicted OD people just shrugg it off, and the fact that the cops went too easy on Kirk shows me that they didn't care enough either. They should've tricked Kirk to expose himself.

The worst part is that there are still people who support Kirk, Marron, Phaedra etc. How can you support people that helped Prince shovel his own grave.

I haven't been on this thread for a while but these are just a few thoughts I had recently.

ThatWhiteDude said:

You know what I don't get? I've seen a lot of crime shows on TV, real crimes and there was one show that showed the interviews right after a crime. Now, the officers there would ask questions just like the officers did with Kirk and all the other people in the files. When they sensed a lie they would be harder on the person of interest.

Now coming to Kirk's Interview, I read it over and over again and there are points in that interview where I just thought: Right there, he's lying! Why wouldn't you go harder on him? Just put him under pressure.

Yes, Prince took them pills himself, but Kirk enabled it and I am sure he was the one, or among the ones that got these fentanyl laced pills for Prince. The fucked up thing is, if this was another scenario like, Prince killing himself with a gun and Kirk would've bought the gun for him, I think people would've cared much more like: "Hey man how could you buy the gun for the guy you called your friend? You knew exactly what would happen!"

To me it seems like they had no pressure to file any charges against anyone. I don't know if I am the only one who thinks the police did a lazy job. It seems like they could've done more.

But I think with the self inflicted OD people just shrugg it off, and the fact that the cops went too easy on Kirk shows me that they didn't care enough either. They should've tricked Kirk to expose himself.

The worst part is that there are still people who support Kirk, Marron, Phaedra etc. How can you support people that helped Prince shovel his own grave.

I haven't been on this thread for a while but these are just a few thoughts I had recently.

They should've interviewed a few more people too, and they took no for answer when they should've forced people to be interviewed. I don't understand why they didn't do certain things, and it's all too late now.