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Reply #1050 posted 07/08/18 2:31pm

Roby78

Seeing the video of JH where there is also P I noticed an interesting thing (but I could be wrong). At the end of the video you see she closes P out PP, wrong or in that scene P has the pants on the contrary? This could support the rumors that he sometimes wore his clothes like that. I also have a question, what do you mean with the reverse side of the pedals? (I do not speak much English) I do not understand if they mean with front / inditro (but from the photos does not seem) or turned the other way (stitching out instead of inside)? Can someone explain me better?

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Reply #1051 posted 07/08/18 2:38pm

Roby78

Camileyun ha detto:

XxAxX ha detto:

poi di nuovo il dolore e le domande senza risposta si sono un po 'alterati con il mio fan mind negli ultimi 2 anni, quindi trovo irresistibile fantasticare e scrivere meglio il finale. al momento spero che il doppio del corpo del principe (assoldato per essere visto in sella a una moto in PP mentre il principe è andato in cura da qualche parte segretamente) sia passato per caso al posto di Prince (scusa per la doppia persona) che vive e vive su un'isola al largo del montenegro.

MrGreen Mi piacerebbe dare un'occhiata!

Camileyun can I accompany you? lol

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Reply #1052 posted 07/08/18 2:53pm

Camileyun

Roby78 said:



Camileyun ha detto:


XxAxX ha detto:

poi di nuovo il dolore e le domande senza risposta si sono un po 'alterati con il mio fan mind negli ultimi 2 anni, quindi trovo irresistibile fantasticare e scrivere meglio il finale. al momento spero che il doppio del corpo del principe (assoldato per essere visto in sella a una moto in PP mentre il principe è andato in cura da qualche parte segretamente) sia passato per caso al posto di Prince (scusa per la doppia persona) che vive e vive su un'isola al largo del montenegro.



MrGreen Mi piacerebbe dare un'occhiata!



Camileyun can I accompany you? lol



Sure, the more, the merrier!
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Reply #1053 posted 07/08/18 4:24pm

purplefam99

Bodhitheblackdog said:



PennyPurple said:




paulludvig said:


purplefam99 said: Trevor is just speculating. [Snip - luv4u]

I think Trevor pretty much hit the nail on the head.



I agree, his posts have been calm, informative, logical and show a mature understanding of addiction and the addict..




I don’t know why it looks like I said Trevor is speculating, I didn’t type that.
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Reply #1054 posted 07/08/18 4:34pm

purplefam99

luv4u said:



purplefam99 said:


luv4u said:

It has been brought to my attention that the thread has gotten off topic and derailed with is or was Prince celibate, was he abused as a child?, .....

This thread is a discussion about the INVESTIGATION.

It would be much appreciated if ya'all would kindly keep this thread on topic and not derail what is turning into a topic mess. Thanks!

Try to enjoy this LAST and FINAL discussion. Thanks




Luv I noticed you locked Benni’s Thread so we won’t be breaking the rules if we discuss “ speculative motivating factors” here and nor shall we be considered derailing this thread?? Thx!



My above post has nothing to do with the motivating factors locked thread lol

Of course it's ok to discuss motivating factors on this here thread! cool



Ok great thx luv!
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Reply #1055 posted 07/08/18 6:58pm

Bodhitheblackd
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[Off topic snip - luv4u]

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Reply #1056 posted 07/08/18 7:38pm

PurpleDiamonds
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XxAxX said:



che777x said:




facedown20160421 said:


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[Edited 7/8/18 0:59am]



Facedown, I appreciate the time and effort you spent in going through the police investigation materials and trying to bring together the details.



In the Police Investigation Phone Tips, there are at least three callers who claim that someone was with P on that night. (1) the caller, in an inverview with the investigator, claims that someone was with P when she called on the burner phone that she sent to him. She claims that P was “very perturbed” when someone asked him who he was talking to. (2) Another caller claims, that JH was there on that night and that P actually passed on the 20th. This caller claims to know KJ, and gives other details of a conversation she had with KJ, and (3) JJ claims that P’s brother-in-law was there. This tape contains callers giving tips and interviews with callers.




this vibe fits imo


Agree...
My opinion has not changed, this was done to Prince....he did not know but someone else did.
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Reply #1057 posted 07/08/18 8:20pm

purplefam99

[Off topic snip - luv4u]
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Reply #1058 posted 07/08/18 8:39pm

Bodhitheblackd
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[Off topic snip - luv4u]

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Reply #1059 posted 07/08/18 9:11pm

Asenath

Krystalkisses said:

purplefam99 said:
Ummmm.... wow...
I'm GRIEVING!!!! I have already explained where I was coming from. You have NO idea what kind of person I am, but if you want to try and use my own words against me knock yourself out.

Krystalkisses, if you're post is for me, I wasn't speaking to your specific comment about Prince being fake and phoney; nor was I presuming anything about you. I was agreeing with someone's opinion about some of Prince's fans "disposition", for lack of a better word. To be perfectly candid, I did reply to your comment, and then made the mindful decision to remove my question to you by way of what I call a "self snip". My only question to you was when you called him "fake and phoney" was if you knew him personally. Please don't answer, you're allowed to feel, hold and express whatever opinions you wish. I stand by my opinion in that I agree with the poster's comment about

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Reply #1060 posted 07/08/18 9:17pm

Asenath

SkipperLove said:

I am not sure who are mourning. Are you mourning who you thought he was or who he really was? Its like you are mourning that death of an idea or ideal person who never existed. His death confirmed that he wasn't entirely who you thought he was. But Prince was always flawed and no one said otherwise. IF anything, we mourn those we know and love even though we are well aware of their flaws. I wholeheartedly believe that the people around him mourned him knowing all too well how human he was even though they may not have understood him entirely while he was alive..

Krystalkisses said:

purplefam99 said: Done deal

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[Edited 7/8/18 21:18pm]

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Reply #1061 posted 07/08/18 9:28pm

PeteSilas

purplefam99 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

bouncing off walls from doing tons of coke every day; blew a hole in her septum so large her roadies used to joke they could drive an equipment truck through it....she got hooked BADLY on the Klonopin, said it almost killed her, didn't stop her other drug use, and she said it robbed her of eight years of her life when, as a mature artist, she could have been creating her best work....it came from a psychiatrist in Beverly Hills who had a lot of rock n roll clients and through the years he kept upping her dosage every time she complained about how she felt. A cautionary tale...sometimes the richest people get the worst medical care.

Devastating. Thanks for the fill in.

damn, so much for confidentiality if that's true. Springsteen has admitted being on meds, he also had some interesting stories about his father being paranoid schizophrenic. as far as her listening to those jackasses, that's HER fault, fuck them doctors.

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Reply #1062 posted 07/08/18 9:34pm

PeteSilas

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said:

this vibe fits imo

Agree... My opinion has not changed, this was done to Prince....he did not know but someone else did.

them callers sound nuts, sorry, they do.

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Reply #1063 posted 07/08/18 10:23pm

Krystalkisses

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Asenath said:



Krystalkisses said:


purplefam99 said:
Ummmm.... wow...

I'm GRIEVING!!!! I have already explained where I was coming from. You have NO idea what kind of person I am, but if you want to try and use my own words against me knock yourself out.


Krystalkisses, if you're post is for me, I wasn't speaking to your specific comment about Prince being fake and phoney; nor was I presuming anything about you. I was agreeing with someone's opinion about some of Prince's fans "disposition", for lack of a better word. To be perfectly candid, I did reply to your comment, and then made the mindful decision to remove my question to you by way of what I call a "self snip". My only question to you was when you called him "fake and phoney" was if you knew him personally. Please don't answer, you're allowed to feel, hold and express whatever opinions you wish. I stand by my opinion in that I agree with the poster's comment about



It's all good. I went back and gave myself a "self snip " by those negative comments I made out of respect for Prince and the people who loved him. Just feeling all types of ambivalent emotions right now but I will forever love that man.
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Reply #1064 posted 07/08/18 11:00pm

che777x

Where's the cookie or the dessert? Regarding the containers of food in the Paisley Park Little Kitchen. Does anybody else see the crumb of food slightly to the right at the bottom of the large container? Or maybe it's a small circular brown or reddish shadow. I can't help thinking that there may have been a cookie or a small dessert that was with the food and that it was eaten.

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Reply #1065 posted 07/08/18 11:22pm

che777x

purplefam99 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

bouncing off walls from doing tons of coke every day; blew a hole in her septum so large her roadies used to joke they could drive an equipment truck through it....she got hooked BADLY on the Klonopin, said it almost killed her, didn't stop her other drug use, and she said it robbed her of eight years of her life when, as a mature artist, she could have been creating her best work....it came from a psychiatrist in Beverly Hills who had a lot of rock n roll clients and through the years he kept upping her dosage every time she complained about how she felt. A cautionary tale...sometimes the richest people get the worst medical care.

Devastating. Thanks for the fill in.

And unfortunately sometimes the richest people get shafted when it comes to justice because the brand has to live on.

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Reply #1066 posted 07/08/18 11:26pm

che777x

PeteSilas said:

che777x said:

TMZ on 4/23/16 reported that he was riding in the parking lot waiting for his girlfriend.

judith wasn't around was she?

TMZ may have been referring to JG who was with P in Electric Fetus that week.

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Reply #1067 posted 07/09/18 12:58am

PurpleDiamonds
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said:



che777x said:




facedown20160421 said:


deleted - accidental duplication


[Edited 7/8/18 0:59am]



Facedown, I appreciate the time and effort you spent in going through the police investigation materials and trying to bring together the details.



In the Police Investigation Phone Tips, there are at least three callers who claim that someone was with P on that night. (1) the caller, in an inverview with the investigator, claims that someone was with P when she called on the burner phone that she sent to him. She claims that P was “very perturbed” when someone asked him who he was talking to. (2) Another caller claims, that JH was there on that night and that P actually passed on the 20th. This caller claims to know KJ, and gives other details of a conversation she had with KJ, and (3) JJ claims that P’s brother-in-law was there. This tape contains callers giving tips and interviews with callers.




this vibe fits imo


Agree...
My opinion has not changed, this was done to Prince....he did not know but someone else did.

Also Agree with what Facedown has posted....thanks for putting the facts together.
Not sure how accurate the satanic info and what DG has said...
[Edited 7/9/18 1:06am]
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Reply #1068 posted 07/09/18 4:32am

PennyPurple

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che777x said:

Where's the cookie or the dessert? Regarding the containers of food in the Paisley Park Little Kitchen. Does anybody else see the crumb of food slightly to the right at the bottom of the large container? Or maybe it's a small circular brown or reddish shadow. I can't help thinking that there may have been a cookie or a small dessert that was with the food and that it was eaten.

Meron admitted that sometimes she helped herself to food out of P's fridge.

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Reply #1069 posted 07/09/18 5:01am

1Sasha

I can't help but think that if high-powered investigators had been on the case from the start we would have the information we need to understand what happened.

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Reply #1070 posted 07/09/18 9:11am

che777x

PennyPurple said:

che777x said:

Where's the cookie or the dessert? Regarding the containers of food in the Paisley Park Little Kitchen. Does anybody else see the crumb of food slightly to the right at the bottom of the large container? Or maybe it's a small circular brown or reddish shadow. I can't help thinking that there may have been a cookie or a small dessert that was with the food and that it was eaten.

Meron admitted that sometimes she helped herself to food out of P's fridge.

I apologize. I should have been clearer – In the Police Investigative Reports, there are pictures or video showing the food containers left on the table in the kitchen, supposedly by P. The sunglasses and tape are on the table also. It was mentioned somewhere that the food left by the chef was still in the fridge. If this is another set of food, take-out or other food that was brought to PP, there may have been a dessert or cookie. In my area, there is usually some small sweet something that would probably have been included, especially if it was purchased at a "boutique-type" eatery. Maybe the question should also include who brought the food to PP, especially if P was not alone.

Facedown20160421 says , ”The sheriff’s office report said the autopsy found fentanyl in Princes blood and his stomach. The autopsy also said the stomach did not have undigested pills, suggesting any pills taken were digested. However the sheriffís office also swabbed some areas in the elevator that appeared to be where Prince may have vomited, and those swabs were tested and ìno controlled substances identifiedî. If a tablet containing fentanyl is taken and Prince feels ill, takes the elevator, vomits, then lies down to die, it seems strange that the vomit contained no controlled substances.”

I’m just suggesting that if there was an addition to this set of food, such as a cookie or dessert, it may have been the vehicle for contamination and was already digested.

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Reply #1071 posted 07/09/18 9:16am

Bodhitheblackd
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che777x said:

PennyPurple said:

Meron admitted that sometimes she helped herself to food out of P's fridge.

I apologize. I should have been clearer – In the Police Investigative Reports, there are pictures or video showing the food containers left on the table in the kitchen, supposedly by P. The sunglasses and tape are on the table also. It was mentioned somewhere that the food left by the chef was still in the fridge. If this is another set of food, take-out or other food that was brought to PP, there may have been a dessert or cookie. In my area, there is usually some small sweet something that would probably have been included, especially if it was purchased at a "boutique-type" eatery. Maybe the question should also include who brought the food to PP, especially if P was not alone.

Facedown20160421 says , ”The sheriff’s office report said the autopsy found fentanyl in Princes blood and his stomach. The autopsy also said the stomach did not have undigested pills, suggesting any pills taken were digested. However the sheriffís office also swabbed some areas in the elevator that appeared to be where Prince may have vomited, and those swabs were tested and ìno controlled substances identifiedî. If a tablet containing fentanyl is taken and Prince feels ill, takes the elevator, vomits, then lies down to die, it seems strange that the vomit contained no controlled substances.”

I’m just suggesting that if there was an addition to this set of food, such as a cookie or dessert, it may have been the vehicle for contamination and was already digested.

1) it could have come from someone else 2) we have no idea how long it was there

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Reply #1072 posted 07/09/18 10:20am

PennyPurple

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che777x said:

PennyPurple said:

Meron admitted that sometimes she helped herself to food out of P's fridge.

I apologize. I should have been clearer – In the Police Investigative Reports, there are pictures or video showing the food containers left on the table in the kitchen, supposedly by P. The sunglasses and tape are on the table also. It was mentioned somewhere that the food left by the chef was still in the fridge. If this is another set of food, take-out or other food that was brought to PP, there may have been a dessert or cookie. In my area, there is usually some small sweet something that would probably have been included, especially if it was purchased at a "boutique-type" eatery. Maybe the question should also include who brought the food to PP, especially if P was not alone.

Facedown20160421 says , ”The sheriff’s office report said the autopsy found fentanyl in Princes blood and his stomach. The autopsy also said the stomach did not have undigested pills, suggesting any pills taken were digested. However the sheriffís office also swabbed some areas in the elevator that appeared to be where Prince may have vomited, and those swabs were tested and ìno controlled substances identifiedî. If a tablet containing fentanyl is taken and Prince feels ill, takes the elevator, vomits, then lies down to die, it seems strange that the vomit contained no controlled substances.”

I’m just suggesting that if there was an addition to this set of food, such as a cookie or dessert, it may have been the vehicle for contamination and was already digested.

Can you point me to the page in the reports that showed what the test result was for the vomit in the elevator, please?


The only vehicle for contamination for the fentanyl was Prince's own hands when he took the pills.


I'm not buying into any conspiracy theory. Too much has been proven that it's not a conspiracy.

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Reply #1073 posted 07/09/18 10:41am

XxAxX

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Roby78 said:

Camileyun ha detto:

XxAxX ha detto: MrGreen Mi piacerebbe dare un'occhiata!

Camileyun can I accompany you? lol

grouphug

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Reply #1074 posted 07/09/18 10:58am

ChocolateBox31
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Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

No it's not. Prince always rode one of his bikes. Morris bought him one.

It seems more strange that his cars looked unused for some time..."do not operate heavy machinery while taking this medication"...

It WASN'T unusual for Prince to be driven around by his regular driver Kimberly Pratt. He was a well known superstar, that didn't have to drive his multiple choices of luxury vehicles, he kept stashed away in his underground garage, in his sprawling Paisley Park estate. The slick ending remark is unnecessary & uncalled for.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #1075 posted 07/09/18 11:10am

PennyPurple

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Camileyun said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: It seems more strange that his cars looked unused for some time..."do not operate heavy machinery while taking this medication"...

It WASN'T unusual for Prince to be driven around by his regular driver Kimberly Pratt. He was a well known superstar, that didn't have to drive his multiple choices of luxury vehicles, he kept stashed away in his underground garage, in his sprawling Paisley Park estate. The slick ending remark is unnecessary & uncalled for.

Judith Hill said that Prince drove himself around in the middle of the night, to go to stores and pick items up. She even went with him.

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Reply #1076 posted 07/09/18 12:13pm

PurpleDiamonds
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1Sasha said:

I can't help but think that if high-powered investigators had been on the case from the start we would have the information we need to understand what happened.


Agree...and someone would have gotten caught for what they have done.
And to add I find it odd that Meron did not cooperate with LE...she refused to give a statement.
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Reply #1077 posted 07/09/18 12:29pm

precioux

PennyPurple said:

che777x said:

I apologize. I should have been clearer – In the Police Investigative Reports, there are pictures or video showing the food containers left on the table in the kitchen, supposedly by P. The sunglasses and tape are on the table also. It was mentioned somewhere that the food left by the chef was still in the fridge. If this is another set of food, take-out or other food that was brought to PP, there may have been a dessert or cookie. In my area, there is usually some small sweet something that would probably have been included, especially if it was purchased at a "boutique-type" eatery. Maybe the question should also include who brought the food to PP, especially if P was not alone.

Facedown20160421 says , ”The sheriff’s office report said the autopsy found fentanyl in Princes blood and his stomach. The autopsy also said the stomach did not have undigested pills, suggesting any pills taken were digested. However the sheriffís office also swabbed some areas in the elevator that appeared to be where Prince may have vomited, and those swabs were tested and ìno controlled substances identifiedî. If a tablet containing fentanyl is taken and Prince feels ill, takes the elevator, vomits, then lies down to die, it seems strange that the vomit contained no controlled substances.”

I’m just suggesting that if there was an addition to this set of food, such as a cookie or dessert, it may have been the vehicle for contamination and was already digested.

Can you point me to the page in the reports that showed what the test result was for the vomit in the elevator, please?


The only vehicle for contamination for the fentanyl was Prince's own hands when he took the pills.


I'm not buying into any conspiracy theory. Too much has been proven that it's not a conspiracy.

to the highlighted-you and I both that's not going to happen...there are no test results. In addition, I find it quite odd that the "spoons wrapped in foil" located in a freezer were not tested, nor was the "powder" substance, nor the powdery substance found in P's personal trash bin located in his private bathroom. What about the syringe? We know the enemas were tested... This "investigation" was a COMPLETE clusterphuek rolleyes

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Reply #1078 posted 07/09/18 12:35pm

precioux

To be exact, if Prince was fooling around with Dilaudid-(which is a FACT), then he preferred and was used to MUCH STRONGER than Vicodin. Where was the Dilaudid? Because it was not found in any of the "illicit" pills, yet was found in his UA hmmm

purplefam99 said:

i would like someone to tell their specific idea surrounding the Dilaudid.

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Reply #1079 posted 07/09/18 12:46pm

Camileyun

ChocolateBox3121 said:



Camileyun said:


ChocolateBox3121 said:


No it's not. Prince always rode one of his bikes. Morris bought him one.



It seems more strange that his cars looked unused for some time..."do not operate heavy machinery while taking this medication"...

It WASN'T unusual for Prince to be driven around by his regular driver Kimberly Pratt. He was a well known superstar, that didn't have to drive his multiple choices of luxury vehicles, he kept stashed away in his underground garage, in his sprawling Paisley Park estate. The slick ending remark is unnecessary & uncalled for.



Nothing "slick" about it...if he was regularly using the drugs found in his system, he shouldn't have been driving and I'm glad he didn't. I'm sure he did not want to hurt anyone else. He was seen around town driving in the past, and it appeared from the dust on the cars that he hadn't in some time for whatever reason. Just an observation and opinion.
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