PeteSilas said:

Krystalkisses said:

Yes I think that is what happened too. I think what KJ told Kim Berry about that was truthful...I can see Prince being the type of person who would feel comfortable walking around his place without clothes and it was a respect thing.

remine me please, what did kim berry say?

Fuzzy memory ...I'm sure Penny knows...but I think the police called Kim Berry and wanted to talk to her about KJ telling her the reason his clothes were put on backwards was because KJ needed to dress him because he was nude or something, but Kim Berry never called them back. But I think this info was passed on to the police by a third part or something , Mani maybe?

Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

remine me please, what did kim berry say?

Fuzzy memory ...I'm sure Penny knows...but I think the police called Kim Berry and wanted to talk to her about KJ telling her the reason his clothes were put on backwards was because KJ needed to dress him because he was nude or something, but Kim Berry never called them back. But I think this info was passed on to the police by a third part or something , Mani maybe?

ok, i remember hearing that.

Krystalkisses said:

PeteSilas said:

remine me please, what did kim berry say?

Fuzzy memory ...I'm sure Penny knows...but I think the police called Kim Berry and wanted to talk to her about KJ telling her the reason his clothes were put on backwards was because KJ needed to dress him because he was nude or something, but Kim Berry never called them back. But I think this info was passed on to the police by a third part or something , Mani maybe?

I cant even begin to say how wrong this statement is.

It was a triple hearsay statement and the police checked phone records and there were no phone calls between Kim Berry and KJ.

PeteSilas said:

Krystalkisses said:

Fuzzy memory ...I'm sure Penny knows...but I think the police called Kim Berry and wanted to talk to her about KJ telling her the reason his clothes were put on backwards was because KJ needed to dress him because he was nude or something, but Kim Berry never called them back. But I think this info was passed on to the police by a third part or something , Mani maybe?

ok, i remember hearing that.

It seems like a totally plausable situation. I can understand why KJ would do this , I don't know if it was someone very close to us what we would do it that situation? Not a stranger but someone we loved? It is really had to know.

I can't believe Kim and some other people got away with not calling the police back. I mean it's the police not telemarketers!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Krystalkisses said:

Fuzzy memory ...I'm sure Penny knows...but I think the police called Kim Berry and wanted to talk to her about KJ telling her the reason his clothes were put on backwards was because KJ needed to dress him because he was nude or something, but Kim Berry never called them back. But I think this info was passed on to the police by a third part or something , Mani maybe?

I cant even begin to say how wrong this statement is.

It was a triple hearsay statement and the police checked phone records and there were no phone calls between Kim Berry and KJ.

Ok thanks for clearing it up. I will have to go back and read it if I can find it.

Also why was Mayte not interviewed but Mani was? Omar was saying Prince was angry at her over selling his stuff and didn't approve of her doing the Hollywood Exes show. But I thought Mayte said Prince gave her his blessing. ????

TrevorAyer said:

sonshine said:

I thought the clothes on backward/inside out thing wasn't true? Sorry, i'm probably months behind with this thread so forgive me if i missed some thing.

it was true, someone on the inside obviously leaked info, either from the authorities or from the Prince camp.

the thinking that prescription pills can't be used like illegal drugs is thinking that is so outdated that i'm shocked when i hear it, Prince knew, he said it in his anthem turned epitaph/prophecy, let's go crazy, he knew. I don't see how anyone can listen to that song and not see the eeriness in it, but there's all kinds here on the org.

sonshine said:

TrevorAyer said:

The difference between those who do and those who don't is usally those who do have family and friends and other things in their life that make them happy. Those who have no one close to them are much more likely to get addicted. Prince kept it all a secret so he surely had very few who could help him. His circle likely knew but also knew not to say anything to him directly about it cuz u know .. the guy had rules like don't look him in the eye. Prince refused rehab due to public exposure. The first step to recovering from addiction is to admit you have a problem you cannot control. Prince always thought he could control it. He never said to anyone that this was beyond him and needed help. It was not until he was too far gone that anyone tried to do anything.

Another factor in kicking is that you have to stop doing the things that feed the addiction. An alcoholic should not spend time in a bar. IF he needed pills to get through a sitting piano performance, he had to give up music to stop the pills. I think he tried on some level during those gap years ... on the other hand .. try to stop a workaholic from working ... it is damn near impossible .. they could flat out quit there job and their life would be non stopped packed with some other kind of work the next day.

Couple that with the fact that most believe if a doctor says its ok then it is safe or a good thing. He may not get his pills from a doctor but there is less of a cautionary stigma with pills than say heroin and needles or coke. So for him to take pills .. he may have felt it was not as bad ... and then of course ... it got away from him. I have been around people in withdrawel ... not a pretty sight at all. It's not easy to quit and takes a huge support system and prince did not have a support system when it came to his secret addiction. He was completely alone trying to deal with it himself in secret. That is why prince was not able to kick it.

[Edited 7/7/18 9:53am]

Tbis is so true (the bolded above), and probably somewhat of a factor in the epidemic we are now dealing with. People didn't take it nearly serious enough due to the fact it's "medication".

INTRO

Out of respect for Prince Rogers Nelson I have read all of the transcripts and files, listened to the voice recordings and looked closely at the photos that the Carver County released to the public. (I do not have a morbid fascination with death and was very uncomfortable at having to look closely at photos of Prince.)
There were some key points that I didnít see in any posts, and I thought I should make an attempt to bring those points together. However I freely admit I may make mistakes as much of the important information has been obscured (blacked out) or has not been made available.
Please note the files I downloaded from Carver County did not contain all of the files the sheriffís office collected. For instance there is no voice file or transcript for the statement given by Tyka Nelson.
In my opinion the sheriffís office failed to do their job thoroughly and there is much evidence that they appear to have not collected. Some obvious problems include:

-I would have wanted to see a much longer time period (2 years) for the mobile phone records for every one of Princeís employees, as well as Princeís friends and family members. The mobile phone records are very limited and they do not indicate the location the individual was in when they made or received the call. The phone company said it wasnít in the warrant and it is fourth amendment infringement. (Where are the mobile phone records for Phaedra Ellis Lamkins?)

-I would like to have seen a complete list of all calls made through the mobile phone towers that are near Paisley Park (ideally in a database or excel file). One tip person says they sent Prince burner phones and he would call that person on the burner phone. If one could look through all the phone calls originating near Paisley Park, in particular the phone calls to this person, you can back track and see which burner phone number Prince is using and then who else he is calling.

-no one collected Princeís fingerprints, and so they end up having to do DNA testing to indicate whether Prince handled certain items. (Did they fail to collect Princeís fingerprints on purpose?)

-the sheriffís office didnít not immediately secure Paisley Park and prevent people from leaving taking anything they wanted with them (e.g. the will). The sheriffís office later also heard that Phaedra Ellis Lamkins and Kirk Johnson had been in the Paisley Park shredding documents, deleting emails and removing physical evidence.

-it is strange to think the sheriffís office didnít immediately confiscate all computers from Paisley Park and seek access to the various email accounts that might be used by Prince or his employees. The fact that the sheriffís office only have a handful of emails from the last few days of Princeís life is dismal.

-did the sheriffís office gain access to Princeís banking records? I can understand why the public shouldnít see the bank records, but I would have thought the banking records would be important. Particularly as Phaedra Ellis Lamkins was stealing money from Prince.

-more prescription drug records for all of Princeís employees going back 5 years (or as long as possible)

-an investigation of whether Prince or Princeís staff had interacted with Dr Elaina Polhukin, who was known to provide prescription drugs illegally in North Minneapolis, but had been in jail since September 2015 and so was no longer able to provide this service (but it would be worth finding out if there had ever been a connection to demonstrate previous illegal dealings).

The three staff closest to Prince are all morally bankrupt (so we really shouldnít trust anything they say):

-Phaedra was stealing large sums of money from Prince (see Debra Johnson though the file is cut off, Theo London), hacked Princeís PC to wipe information and delete emails, shredded documents, put Paisley Park in ìlockdownî and ìcleaned houseî including cleaning physical evidence.

-Kirk Johnsonís statements are often contradictory and it is clear the narrative of ìonly just learning Prince had an opiate problemî was crafted with Phaedra from around the time of the emergency landing in Moline 20160415. Theo describes KJ as having no backbone, thus the narrative was constructed by Phaedra ñ ìpretend this is the start of realising Prince has an opiate problem and arrange for him to see a doctor, and weíll look into getting professional helpî.

-Meron Bekure was stealing money from Prince by producing CDs of Princeís work and taking the money for herself (see Vera Morgan statements, and Meron had $3000 in cash and a disc burner in her bag on the morning Princeís body was found).

Timeline

20160407 Thursday - Atlanta concert cancelled. Prince saw Dr Schulenberg and received IV fluids

20160414 Thursday - 2 x concerts in Atlanta. Kirk Johnson & Judith Hill on the flight. KJ obtained scripts from Dentist Boo and Dr Schulenberg.

20160415 Friday ñ early am Emergency plane landing in Moline Illinois, paramedics administered Narcan (anti-opioid). KJ & Judith Hill present.

20160416 Saturday - Late night party at Paisley Park

20160417 Sunday20160418 Monday - 8pm Larry Graham met with Prince. Dinner, jazz & movie with Josh & Hannah Welton, Judith Hill, KJ & Meron Bekure.

20160419 Tuesday -

20160420 Wednesday ñ KJ takes Prince to Dr S for IV fluids. KJ 2 trips to pharmacy. Dr S says a late night conference call with Phaedra and Howard Kornfied (Recovery without walls) occurred, which was followed by Andrew Kornfield taking the flight to Minneapolis arriving around 6am.

20160421 Thursday - Prince pronounced dead 10am. Believed to have died around 4am or earlier. (Time of death may be obscured by high heat inside the building.)

[Edited 7/12/18 21:35pm]

HEALTH

PART A: PRINCEíS SYMPTOMS AND THE DRUGS FOUND AT PAISLEY PARK
Prince took efforts to present himself as a modern-day Mozart musical genius.
Prince was also conscious to not fall prey to the stereotype of a ìblack drug addictî. The idea of trying a drug as an experience is different to ongoing substance abuse. It is likely Prince sought to maintain his image as a clean living musician artist in order to not have people look down at him and to also be a positive role model.

SCENARIO 1: LONG TERM DRUG ADDICT

Various people claim Prince had been using drugs through the 1980s including a lawyer for Princeís now deceased half-brother and half-sister, saying the half-brother had said he used to source drugs for Prince.1980s engineer Susan Rogers claimed at least one incident where P and another band member were high.Sinead OíConnor claimed Prince used drugs in early 1990s and that Prince had been known to be violent.
Some fans saw the fentanyl and assumed Prince was suffering cancer. However cancer patients usually have fentanyl as a patch and the fentanyl was in pill form so this is unlikely.
Some fans assumed Prince had HIV/AIDS and that would be indicated by a low white blood cell count. However the brief autopsy says a low red blood cell count, which could be related to not eating red meat and anaemia.

SCENARIO 2: CLEAN LIVING ANTI-DRUG MUSICIAN ARTIST

Princeís lyrics indicate an anti-drug stance, particularly out of concern for what it would do to his brain. His public persona was that of a calm thoughtful person in control. He said he was a vegetarian and didnít drink or do drugs.
In the sheriffís office evidence many of the people who knew Prince claim surprise at the idea of Prince using drugs, illicit or pharmaceutical, as theyíd not witnessed Prince looking out of it, dazed or confused, or high. In particular the on tour security guard Chris Romeo Gaither said he never saw any drugs in Princeís belongings and one of his jobs was, when the band was checking out, to go through the hotel rooms and make sure there was nothing left behind in the room such as clothes, shoes or jewellery. Gaither says he never saw any pills or drugs. If you do opiates you are going to be drowsy, fall asleep and slur your words, but he never saw anything like that. Gaither says Prince told him back in the day he used to do drugs and stuff but that was when he was lost and didnít know where he was meant to be. For Gaither to not see any pills anywhere, even ones that might have accidentally fallen on the floor, is an interesting point.
Many staff said they never saw him take any drugs including Renville Washington (on tour security guard), Kiran Sharma (manager 2008-2014). Mayte Garcia (1st wife 1996-1998) said she did not see Prince take pain pills, but her own Vicodin pills would disappear and there was a possible overdose incident.
However Manuela Testolini (2nd wife 2001-2006) said she knew Prince had a problem with pain pills.

In 2005 a doctor told Prince he needed a hip replacement. At this time Prince was a Jehovahís Witness, and the media news stories said Jehovah Witnesses are opposed to blood transfusions which was why Prince didnít have the surgery.
However, the brief autopsy for Prince indicates a scar on his left hip and some of those close to Prince state Prince did have a hip replacement at the Mayo Clinic in 2010 (some sources say it was done in Texas).
Jehovah Witnessís disapprove of drug use including prescription drug use and look down on those in their faith who use prescription or illicit drugs. Prince saw Larry Graham as a mentor and so it is unlikely Prince would ever confide to Larry Graham about using prescription drugs or other substances. The sheriffís office asked Larry Graham a number of questions on this as the sheriffís office thought the conversation with Larry Graham on Monday 20160418 included encouraging Prince to seek medical help. Instead Graham indicated the conversation was about Prince taking some time off to recover after the emergency plane landing incident. However in the sheriffís office records Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) said Manuela Testolini said she had expressed concerns over Princeís use of pain pills to Graham and Graham had asked if she was a doctor and since she was not then what would she know.

Some say Prince would ask for a doctor, particularly when on tour in order to have a B12 shot for energy, but say they never saw Prince take any illicit drugs or prescription drugs, including Renville Washington (on tour security guard) and Chris Romeo Gaither (on tour security guard). Crystal Zehetner (assistant 2010-2012) said she hadnít seen Prince take drugs, but felt she was being used to get doctors for Prince which may have allowed Prince to get access to pain drugs, and Crystal says this was the reason for leaving and Crystal told this to Phaedra clearly, even though after Princeís death Crystal said Phaedra played dumb about what Crystal had meant at the time. Crystal suggests there had been times when Prince was using and it was a problem, but then went sober and later on started using again.

Kiran Sharma said in 2007 there was an incident when Prince was walking around Paisley Park naked and that had something to do with prescription medication. However Rick Peloquin (Paisley Park groundskeeper) dates this incident to 2010 after the hip surgery and that Princeís chiropractor (Dr Isaacson) said it was a reaction to coming off Percocet.

Theo London (Chief of Staff, Tour manager 2012-2015) said he knew Prince had a lot of pain, back pain and in his ankles. Theo would arrange doctors for Prince at Minneapolis and on tour. Theo said Prince once asked for some pain pills, Theo got Tylenol for Prince, but this angered Prince. Theo thought it might be possible others had obtained stronger pain pills for Prince, and then the concern would be that Prince might not know what he was taking.

SCENARIO 3: SOME LEGAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG USE
Many of the statements include Prince experiencing for many years (or even decades) a lot of hip pain, sciatica (from hip down through leg), as well as back and leg pain.Prince had been using a chiropractor, but a different chiropractor had worked on him in early April 2016 possibly triggering some new pain.
On 20160407 when Dr Schulenberg examined Prince, Prince said he was dehydrated, and was experiencing tingling and numbness in his hands and his right leg. He had also been vomiting and nauseous. (These are likely the reasons for cancelling some of the original Atlanta dates.)
Prince had been performing the Piano & Microphone tour twice per night in early 2016. Prior to this Prince had not been in the habit of playing the piano for 2 x 2 hour sets per night, and it is likely this high intensity use of his hands was triggering the problems in his hands (the numbness and tingling).
2016 concerts

2016 01 21 2 shows

2016 01 23 1 show

2016 02 16 2 shows

2016 02 17 2 shows

2016 02 20 2 shows

2016 02 21 2 shows

2016 02 24 2 shows

2016 02 25 2 shows

2016 02 28 2 shows

2016 03 04 2 shows

2016 03 18 1 show

2016 03 22 3 shows

2016 03 25 3 shows

2016 04 14 2 shows
February =12 shows

March = 9 shows
By comparison in 2015 Prince was doing 3 or 4 shows per month.
Letís say Prince was only using Tylenol (containing acetaminophen) to handle the pain. Excessive use of acetaminophen can damage the liver with side effects including:-sore throat-sores or ulcers in the mouth-dry mouth-unusual tiredness or weakness-constipation-muscle or joint pain-yellow eyes or skin (jaundice).And an overdose can cause:-diarrhea-loss of appetite-nausea or vomiting.
Many of these are the symptoms Prince reported to Dr Schulenberg on 7 April and 20 April.
The brief autopsy says Princeís red blood cell count was low, and that may simply be anemia, or may be due to liver damage (cirrhosis). Liver disease can also cause flu-like symptoms (such as fatigue, nausea, vomiting, and muscle or joint pain).
In relation to the emergency landing 20160415, the pilot mentioned the private planes fly at a higher altitude than commercial flights and this may cause problems for some travellers. When the pilot found out Prince had blacked out he swiftly brought the plane to a lower altitude, and then arranged the emergency landing. It may be that being weak and unwell in general, and at a high altitude was enough to cause Prince to black out. Princeís chef Ray Roberts told sheriffís office he had noticed Prince had been losing weight, and that he was eating less and wasnít drinking any water. (I thought I also saw comments that Prince had a sore throat and was having difficulty swallowing, so the chef had been doing more vegetable juices and soup. Sore throat is one of the symptoms of overuse of acetaminophen/liver damage.)
The sheriffís office report said the autopsy found fentanyl in Princeís blood and his stomach. The autopsy also said the stomach did not have undigested pills, suggesting any pills taken were digested. However the sheriffís office also swabbed some areas in the elevator that appeared to be where Prince may have vomited, and those swabs were tested and "no controlled substances identified". If a tablet containing fentanyl is taken and Prince feels ill, takes the elevator, vomits, then lies down to die, it seems strange that the vomit contained no controlled substances.

(Search Warrants, Subpoenas and Property Data.pdf pg96 Items 26A and 26B)

If we donít trust the statements given by Kirk Johnson and Judith Hill and stick to the symptoms Prince mentions including numbness and nausea, it is possible Prince was experiencing some side effects due to the use of acetaminophen and liver damage.
It is then possible that someone intentionally poisoned Prince with fentanyl on the night of 20160420 to 20160421.

SCENARIO 4: SOME PRESCRIPTION DRUG USE, INCLUDING ILLEGALLY SOURCING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS

By ruling Princeís death an accidental overdose it is clear the sheriffís office are mainly interested in finding the source of the counterfeit drugs that were created to look like Vicodin, but instead contained fentanyl.
The sheriffís office records reveal certain prescription medications prescribed to Kirk Johnson and Prince, including:
Prescribed by Dentist Sarah Boo to Kirk Johnson on 20160414:

-Acetominophen ìTylenolî (10 tablets, all 10 tablets present)

-Clindmycin TCL (28 tablets, but 33 tablets present)
Prescribed by Dr Schulenberg to Kirk Johnson on 20160414:

-Oxycodone-Acetaminophen ìPercocetî (15 tablets, 8 of them in the Ondansetron bottle)-Ondansetron ñ to prevent nausea

-Vitamin D2
Prescribed by Dr Schulenberg to Prince R Nelson on 20160420 (these are to combat opiate withdrawal):

-Clonidine

-Diazepam

-Hydroxyzine

(The sheriffís office records say these three bottles were at KJís home, so not at Paisley Park that night.)
Kirk doesnít mention in his initial statements to the sheriffís office the prescriptions he obtained from Dentist Sarah Boo. Instead KJ focuses on the prescriptions from Dr Schulenberg. There are a number of phone calls between Dr Boo and KJ after the emergency landing on 20160414 and subsequently. This dentist said the pills were for KJ who had a cracked tooth, however KJ still had not had that tooth repaired some time later.
The sheriffís office also noted that two prescription bottles prescribed by Dr Schulenberg on 20160414 had the pills mixed up and these were bottles Prince would have had on the plane on 20160415:

-Ondansetron ñ contained 8 acetominophen/oxycodone pills ñ ie Percocet

-Vitamin D2 ñ contained the Vitamin D pills and the Ondasetron pills(Though in the sheriffís office photos from 20160421 sometime these bottle are and are not in the overnight bag labelled ìPeter Bravestrongî that Prince took to Atlanta.)
The Bayer bottle was also with Prince on the plane for the emergency landing and it contained 64 of the Watson 853 pills, the type that were later found to be counterfeit Vicodin and actually contained fentanyl (from the reports in relation to Princeís death).
In the statement by Judith Hill she says Prince reveals the Bayer bottle to Kirk and Judith, and when Kirk opens it he asks ìwhere did you get these?î This suggests Kirk knew the tablets in the bottle were not aspirin. It also suggests Kirk recognises the pills to be Vicodin.
If we assume Kirk has been helping Prince obtain pharmaceutical drugs for many years, including Vicodin, then Kirkís question can be interpreted as surprise that Prince had been able to source pharmaceutical drugs without Kirkís help. (Judith says Kirk said ìwe canít keep doing thisî which could also be taken as Kirk meaning that Prince using drugs without a prescription is a serious problem ñ they were after all in the emergency room).
In the tips one person says in September 2015 Doctor Elaina Polhukin of North Mineappolis had been incarcerated for her role in providing people with prescription drugs without a prescription, including taking bribes from the drug store. The person said this doctor was using certain patients and fraudulently listing certain drugs under those patients names, but then actually selling this medication illegally to others (i.e. providing people with prescription drugs without a prescription). It isnít hard to imagine that Prince and Kirk Johnson might have used Dr Polhukin to source prescription drugs without a prescription, possibly for many years. And in doing so they knew these drugs would be the real pharmaceutical drug.
Imagine then that Princeís pain escalates as he embarks on his new Piano & Microphone tour in early 2016 and Prince and Kirk need to find new sources for the required pharmaceutical drugs, in particular Vicodin.
Perhaps Prince found a source for the new Vicodin pills without Kirk, but the source obtained the pills from an illegal lab. Prince may have thought he was buying authentic Vicodin, not realising this was a counterfeit pill containing a different substance.
The statement by Judith Hill suggests on the flight home from Atlanta on 20160414 Prince went to his bag twice, and perhaps also the bathroom, and then ordered dinner. It was at this time that Prince froze and his breathing became shallow. Judith said she woke KJ and they tried to wake Prince but he was unconscious and breathing sporadically. Then they asked the pilots to land. The paramedics from the hospital asked what Prince had taken and Kirk said Percocet (not an opiate). The paramedics said Princeís pupils were like pinpricks, and his symptoms were like that of an opiate overdose, so they administered 2 mg Narcan (an anti-opiate) which is usually enough to wake someone up, but then administered another 2 mg Narcan, for a total of 4mg Narcan, which brought Prince to consciousness. Prince said he felt ìfuzzyî. Prince was taken to the hospital at Moline. There Dr Mancha asked what Prince had taken, and was told Percocet. The doctor explained she knew he had taken something else due to the medication they gave him to wake him up. After this Prince revealed to KJ and Judith the Bayer bottle and that he had taken 1 or 2 of these pills. KJ gave the doctor one pill and it was visually identified as Vicodin (Watson 853). This hospital did not actually test the contents of the pill. But it seems possible this was a counterfeit Vicodin pill and actually contained fentanyl, enough to cause Prince to black out.
Dr Mancha repeatedly requested Prince allow the hospital to do some blood and urine tests, but Prince repeatedly refused.
Judith also asked Prince to have some tests done and Prince said he would do this when he returned to Minneapolis due to concerns about privacy. Judith says the doctor was concerned that they didnít know what was happening with Princeís organs and needed to know what was going on.
Judith said she told Prince ìno more pillsî and he said ìthat means I canít perform because my hands are hurtingî.
At the same time KJ was on the phone to Phaedra. Judith also asked Phaedra to make sure Prince had some tests done.
Judith says Prince told her in the hospital room that he reasoned his reaction must have been due to mixing the two tablets (i.e. Percocet and Vicodin). He was not aware the Vicodin was counterfeit, and it seems likely the fake Vicodin tablet contained enough fentanyl to cause Prince to black out.
KJ arranged tests with Dr Schulenberg. These took place on 20160420, and Dr S also prescribed medications to combat opiate withdrawal. Dr S had the results of the blood and urine tests when he went to take them to Paisley Park on 20160421, but when he arrived the authorities were there as Prince had been found dead just prior. The 20160420 results tested positive for opiates including Hydrocodone (253 ng/ml) and Hydromorphone (87ng/ml). The blood was also later tested for fentanyl, but there was no fentanyl in his blood on 20160420.
From the autopsy the level of fentanyl in Princeís blood was very high and was the cause of death.
It is very strange however that the counterfeit Vicodin (Watson 853) pills are found in many bottles, including one pill on the floor beside Princeís bed.
-Bayer bottle ñ 64 x Watson 853 pills, counterfeit, contain fentanyl

-Aleve bottle ñ 20 x Watson 853 pills, counterfeit, contain fentanyl

-In white tissue paper in a box in the Dressing Room in the white bedroom ñ Watson 853 pills, counterfeit, contain fentanyl

-a CVS pharmacy bottle

-a Vitamin C bottle in a suit case.(In each bottle only one of the Watson 853 pills appears to have been tested.)
In a different Vitamin C bottle more Watson 853 pills were found, but these contained hydrocodone and lidocaine. Perhaps these are real authentic Vicodin. This bottle was in a duffle bag in Princeís dressing room, and not in his overnight bag or amongst the other vitamin bottles on a side bench. (What if someone put the fake Vicodin all over the place, but didnít see this bottle and so missed it? And perhaps this Vicodin was obtained illegally through a doctor but it was real Vicodin. Perhaps someone was swapping real Vicodin for fake Vicodin in the hopes of Prince overdosing).
It was also said that some tablets were found on Princeís person. Some of the statements mentioned Princeís trousers would not have pockets so they didnít understand how he could be carrying medicine around. And one person pointed out it would be strange to carry medicine around in your own home. Having the counterfeit Watson 853 pills in 5 different places is suspicious. Sounds like these pills were being planted all over the place in order to make Prince look like a drug addict.
On 20160420 when KJ dropped Prince off at Paisley Park (around 8pm) Prince supposedly told KJ he ìneeds a drinkî, to which KJ said heíd cleaned out Paisley Park. But wouldnít KJ have been more concerned about pills? Could this be code for ìand Iíve also removed all the pillsî. This could also be taken to mean the KJ had removed all the Percocet and Vicodin from Paisley Park, as well as all the other pharmaceutical drugs, but he would have left various health or supplement bottles if they contained only health supplements. But then this would mean it is quite possible for a person to plant the fake Vicodin in the aspirin or health supplement bottles, as those bottles would still be around. And KJ could have also brought back the two bottles (Ondansetron and vitamin D) to Paisley Park on the morning of 20160421.
Meanwhile one bottle prescribed by Dentist Boo had too many pills in it. Another indication of having access to pills without a prescription. (Unless the Clindmycin was a repeat and the person put the remaining few pills into the repeat bottle.)
With a suicide if they take a bottle of pills there would be undigested pills in the stomach. But Princeís stomach did not have undigested pills. This appears to be the reason it was not ruled a suicide.
At the doctorís appointment on 20160420 Dr Schulenberg says that Prince was interested in getting help and was showing symptoms of opiate withdrawal. Narcan prevents opiates from taking effect in the body, however we do not know how long this effect lasts. In other words it is hard to know, had Prince been using opiates, whether by administering the Narcan after the emergency landing on 20160415 if this had a long lasting impact and so taking any opiates over the next week might not have had any effect, leading to the new symptoms of opiate withdrawal. On other hand, if Narcan only has an impact for say 24 hours, would the symptoms report by Dr S suggest that someone had continued to administer Narcan to Prince in order lead to the need for the doctorís appointment on 20160420? This question needs to be answered by a specialist in the field.

Investigative Report #2 point 304-305 ñ DEA Officer reports there had been no other fentanyl deaths in pill form in Minnesota other than Prince. Fentanyl deaths were mostly in powder form when it had been mixed with heroin (or cocaine). The DEA had shut some labs in California but the pills at Paisley Park were not from the California labs. The DEA reported there were no other case with tablets like the ones found at Paisley Park. Point 367 the DEA was unable to locate a pill with a similar composition.
The DEA findings means there have been no other deaths due to these pills. It seems Prince admitted taking 1 or 2 of these pills in the plane on 20160415, causing the massive overdose that required the high dose of Narcan to come out of (4mg). Only one or two pills lands a person in the emergency room, or would otherwise kill them. In other words, these specific counterfeit Watson 853 pills found at Paisley Park cause death.
The sheriffís office reports talk about the amount of fentanyl in Princeís blood, but do not talk about how high the level of fentanyl was in the counterfeit pill. The official story has Prince admitting to taking 1 or 2 pills on the plane which would suggest the amount of fentanyl in 1 or 2 pills would be enough to kill. The absence of revealing the amount of fentanyl in the pills that were tested causes further suspicion in relation to the sheriffís office reports trying to draw attention to other areas, and imply that Prince had a high tolerance for drugs and thus a high drug user.
Therefore if no other examples of pills have been found then these pills were manufactured specifically to trick Prince into taking them and to poison him (or to leave behind to make Prince look like a drug addict).
The counterfeit drug Prince took that contained fentanyl was crafted to look like Vicodin. It could have been created in a medical facility. (Mayo Clinic was involved in manufacturing fentanyl.)
There is also the question of why there were no controlled substances in the vomit in the elevator, but supposedly a toxic level of fentanyl in Princeís stomach. Perhaps the Medical Examiner Dr Quinn Strobl lied about this as part of supporting the narrative of an accidental overdose. Medical Examiner (Dr Quinn Strobl) who signed Princeís brief autopsy has specialised in fentanyl and written papers on it.
(Since the sheriffís office have no worthwhile leads, check out In Search of the Black Assassins Word Press blog noting Fentanyl has been used as a weapon since 1997 ìPrince Rogers Nelson, Fentanyl, Assassinationsî 20160606.)

[Edited 7/12/18 21:32pm]

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MUSIC BUSINESS

PART B: WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM THE DEATH OF PRINCE?
(NOTE: Iím oversimplifying many of the issues in order to provide an overview of the key points.)
Since the 1980s Prince expressed his distrust of record companies, particularly when Warner Bros would insist on a production credit to music Prince had created entirely on his own. This was further magnified by Warner limiting the amount of music would allow Prince to release (such as reducing the length of Sign O The Times from three discs to two). Diamonds and Pearls was intentionally crafted as a mainstream cross-over commercial album in order to demonstrate the value of Prince the recording artist, and it is likely this was a manoeuvre by Prince to ensure the next contract with Warner would have a very high value ($100 million for the next 6 albums). Some might say the expectations Warner wrote into the new contract were excessively high (in order to guarantee Prince would fail to meet them), but this new contract also brought about the issue that was to plague Prince for the rest of his life ñ the new contract gave Warner ownership of all master recordings under the new contract as well as going back to 1978. Various disagreements culminated in Prince writing ìslaveî on his cheek in 1996 to reflect the position he felt he was in.
Around this time Prince sought to directly control the dissemination of his music leading to the creation of the NPG music club. However, while hard core Prince fans will endure anything to hear Princeís music, perhaps Prince underestimated the importance of radio airplay, and the underlying relationship between record companies and radio stations to actually create hits (as high frequency radio airplay is essential to creating ìhitsî that will in turn lead to record sales). The outcome of all this discord is that Princeís albums after Diamonds and Pearls are known only to hard core Prince fans.(billboard.com 20140418 reports 18.5 million Prince albums sold between 1991-2016 in the US, and of this 14.3 million were from the Warner label).

Soon Prince became obsessed with regaining control of his masters from Warner. His first 20 albums are where his commercial success lies, and any new contract with a record company will be made more valuable by being able to include music from albums created under the Warner label (1978-1996).

In April 2014 Prince signed a new deal with Warners. It seems like Prince had found a way to regain his masters. (Copyright Revision Act of 1976 includes the ability to terminate master recording copyright after 35 years, and this is part of the argument being made to force Warners to return the masters to Prince. Billboard.com 20160416)
However in the meantime it appears that Prince did agree to a new contract with Universal where Universal appears to have been under the belief that Universal would also be gaining control over Princeís music that had been created under the Warner label (past the 35 year mark). (The file is mostly redacted so it is hard to make sense of.)
After Princeís death Universal pulls out of this deal, citing they had been misled. The highly redacted portion of the legal documents likely provides specific detail from the Warner contracts held with Prince where Warners reasserts it has exclusive rights to Princes music albums from 1978-1996.

Soon after Princeís death the press reported the agreement Prince had with Warner was that Warner would return the masters to Prince, however in the event of Princeís death the masters would revert to Warner. In other words, it was in Warnerís interest for Prince to die.
Soon after Princeís death Tyka Nelson (Princeís full blood sister) files papers to say Prince did not leave a will and requests a special administrator to oversee Princeís estate (reported 20160426 on nme.com/news/prince/93234). Tyka and her half-siblings arrange themselves as the heirs to Princeís estate, and work with various legal teams in order to extricate Princeís music catalogue from the agreement with Universal. (At the time of Princeís death Bremer Trust was involved in managing Princeís estate.)

However in the Carver County evidence, one of Princeís ex-girlfriends said he had a will when they were dating back in the 1990s.Other tips say they know where Prince stored his will ñ one states it was in the safe with the sheet music in the Vault. The tips also say that Tyka had been removed from the will years earlier, but Tyka only became aware of being removed from the will a few weeks before Princeís death.

On 20160421 the sheriffís office did not secure Paisley Park and various witnesses attest to seeing Paisley Park staff leave with boxes or bags of items. Princeís ex wife Manuela stated Phaedra Ellis Lamkins (Princeís business manager) had said Phaedra needed to get access to Princeís laptop. On 20160422-23 a particular email address used by Prince was accessed, and the emails were deleted. Sheriffís office requested access to the email address some time later and appear to have only gained access to the last few days of Princeís emails with Google stating had the request been made sooner it might have been able to retrieve more of the deleted emails. And it is believed that Phaedra and Kirk Johnson spent some time in Paisley Park shredding documents, with claims of eight garbage bags (including said shredded documents) being removed from Paisley Park.
[At the very least Phaedra is covering up her own unethical mismanagement of Princeís business and misuse of Princeís funds. Theo London and Debra Johnson provide a lot of examples of Phaedra stealing large sums of money from Prince, and after Princeís death this money is still unaccounted for.]

Omarr Baker (Pís half brother) thought it strange Londell McMillan had been present at the small memorial held for Prince on 20160423. Londell McMillan had won back Princeís rights to his music from Warner but had later been fired by Prince. (Though Theo London talks about Phaedra as essential to retrieving the masters from Warner, see below.)

Omarr Baker (Pís half brother) noted Bremar Bank, who was administering Princeís estate, was appointing certain people as consultants even though they had had a falling out with Prince. Such consultants would be paid very well for this consultancy work. One such person was Londell McMillan. Bremar Bank appointed McMillan ìspecial music industry advisorî, in addition to Charles Koppelmann. Koppelmann & McMillan executed several major deals prior to 20170117 (when the tax bill of $12 million for Princeís estate was due). These deals included ìrecorded music deals with Warner Music and Universal Music group ñ including previously unreleased material from the artistís legendary vault ñ and deals for publishing with Universal, performing rights with Irving Azoffís Global Music Rights, and merchandising with Universalís Bravado. Those deals also cleared the way for much of Princeís music to be made widely available on major streaming services; from July 2017 until February of this year [2017], Princeís music was limited to the Tidal streaming service, via a deal made by the artist that is currently being contested by the estate.î The Variety article goes on to say McMillan is representing four of the heirs. The article mentions Bremar Bank had stepped down, and Comerica Bank had been appointed in early 2017 to administer Princeís estate. Comerica Bank appointed Spotifyís Tory Carter as its entertainment adviser. (Aswad, J ìPrince Estate Names New Adviser: Spotifyís Troy Carterî variety.com 10 April 2017.)

The points in this article directly contradict Princeís own wishes when Prince was alive. The estate would probably argue it needed to come up with the money to pay the federal tax bill.

Since Princeís death we have much of Princeís music becoming widely available over various streaming services. When alive Prince had an agreement with Tidal and it may be that Prince was interested in the idea that the artists have some ownership of the streaming service and so have more control, or are more likely to see a larger share of the profits. But this agreement has been undone by Princeís estate since Princeís death.

Some of Princeís social media feed indicates Prince and Warner had an agreement for a new vinyl release of Purple Rain but there had been delays on Warners side (with Prince saying Warner didnít want to pay the proper amount for the rights). Another example of Princeís frustration with Warner. On the other hand a posthumous release would likely be much more profitable, particularly if the new agreements with Prince could be replaced by the original contract terms (circa 1984).
In the legal documents to do with Universal rescinding its claim on Princeís entire music publishing rights is the claim that the estate had suffered by the various representatives not properly taking steps to make the most of the opportunity to make money from Princeís music catalogue upon Princeís death, and that this was largely due to the very complicated mess of agreements around ownership of Princeís music across various record companies. (In contrast Warner, having complete control of Princeís three films, was easily able to arrange the re-release of the films on bluray). It appears this argument by the estate was part of the argument towards having Universal withdraw its claims to Princeís music publishing catalogue. And the documents also call for Phaedra to be removed as a representative in relation to various business matters.

Statements by Debra Johnson (business manager in 2013-15) provide further explanations as to the unethical conduct of Phaedra to the point of Phaedra including herself as the beneficiary of certain agreements (rather than Prince or the entity ìNPGî) meaning that Phaedra would receiving all of the monies payable for Princeís publishing catalogue (but also that Phaedra would become owner of all of Princeís copyrights ñ this seems absurd). Debra Johnson was particularly concerned that a record company with offices around the globe and agreements with local radio stations would be needed to collect this money from each state/territory. It seems Prince and Phaedra were drawn to the simple idea of collecting the money and not having a record company involved would mean more money for Prince. But Debra felt it would be difficult to ensure the various monies would be able to be collected without a record company. Itís hard to tell if perhaps Phaedraís intention was to sub-contract this out to a different record company (Universal, and this is another part of what Universal is trying to back out of). (Strangely the voice recording interview between Debra Johnson and the sheriffís office cuts out at this part of the story.)

Theo Londonís comments reveal Van Jones had introduced Prince to Phaedra and that Phaedra would be able to help Prince regain the masters from Warner. Theo thought the sequence of events was interesting. Phaedra was able to magically get the masters for Prince. Prince told Theo he wanted LA Reed to have Princeís next album and Theo was negotiating with LA Reed. Phaedra would find out the deal being offered by LA Reed, and then Warner would provide something better. And this happened repeatedly. Then the next album goes to Warner. Theo says it was ìodd to me that she would fight so hard to get the next album with Warner, after this man has fought so hard to extricate himself from Warner.î Theo then said he had been told CNN is owned by Warner, and Van Jones is a paid contributer for CNN. And that he would not be surprised if Warner had Van Jones send in Phaedra, so that in reality Phaedra would be being paid by Warner. Who stands to benefit? Warner. This means that after Princeís death:-Warner regained control of Princeís music catalogue and possession of the masters-the streaming services gained access to much of Princeís existing music catalogue-Princeís siblings gained access and control to his estate by claiming there was no will (even though those close to him knew of a will, where it was and informed sheriffís office that Tyka recently had learnt she was not on the will).

For Warner the amount of money associated with Prince may in itself not be a lot of money, but it is likely the greater threat to Warner is having Prince succeed in changing the rules of the game which would impact how much money Warner can make from all of its contracts.
Sheriffís office accessed Princeís Vault on 20160515 1730 hours. Bremar Bank provided consent for sheriffís office to have first access to the vault. Bremar Bank were also present at Paisley Park Vault on 20160515. Sheriffís office commenced their search at 1900 hours through to 1938 hours, and then turned the vault over to Bremar Bank. (A sheriffís office photo dated 20160511 shows the Vault steel door with red sheriffís office sticker. However a sheriffís office photo dated 20160510 does not have any stickers on the Vault steel door. The Vault is a combination safe. Thus anyone with the access code could have entered any time between 20160420 to 20160510 and removed the will.)

In the tips one person said the will is kept inside the Vault in a safe with the sheet music. Inside the Vault there is a black cupboard and possibly some paper on a shelf labelled ìPPR Artists/ PRN MUSIC INCî. Or perhaps there had been a small safe that has been removed prior to the sheriffís office gaining access to the Vault (a few shelves look empty top left and top right, while most other shelves are completely full). The tip mentioned Prince often changed the will and would have two notaries sign it every time he made a change, meaning Prince had lawyers well aware that Prince had a will as they had signed it many times. If these lawyers were from Bremar Bank perhaps they had been told to not mention any knowledge of Princeís existing will. Once Prince dies Prince is no longer the ìclientî. Instead the person most likely to inherit the estate becomes the person Bremar Bank will want to engage with and if that person becomes the client of Bremar Bank then Bremar Bank will act in that personís interest.

It is likely that Tyka and her siblings would be more manageable than Prince and for this reason it would be in Warnerís interest for Tyka and her siblings to inherit Princeís estate.
Some reported that Kirk Johnson left the US soon after Princeís death and travelled to Switzerland. (The Sheriffís office report state Kirk Johnson left to go on a cruise.)

PURE SPECULATION:

Perhaps Prince would have had funds in Switzerland or elsewhere (beyond the reach of the US government) and Kirk Johnson went to Switzerland to ensure those funds remained safe. At the time of Princeís death Kirk Johnson lived in a house provided by Prince. Tyka also lived in house belonging to Prince. It seemed strange to me that Tyka would agree to an equal share of Princeís estate, equal to that of the other four half-siblings. Perhaps we can speculate a share of Princeís wealth is held in Swiss or other bank accounts, and Kirk Johnson visited to ensure Tyka and Tyka alone would have access to that money, and in return perhaps Tyka would allow Kirk Johnson to continue to live in the house Prince provided to him.

On 20160420 at 2138hrs Kirk Johnson accidentally sent Dr Schulenberg a text message (IMG_0061) with a photo of stairs from the NPG music club area (near the sound stage). Who did Kirk intend for this message to go to? Why is Kirk showing someone how to get around inside at Paisley Park the night before Prince is found dead? The phone records in the sheriffís office documents commence at midnight 0000 hours on 20160421. (It is also interesting to see there is a text message 20160421 235 hrs from Sheila E to Kirk. However Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) said Sheila E and Prince had not been on good terms for 2-3 years.)

The next morning Andrew Kornfield thought he would be taken straight to Paisley Park to speak with Prince but instead ends up having breakfast with Kirk and Meron. Kirk says he is waiting for Prince to wake up and wants to give Prince something to take the edge off, but does Kirk really think Prince has slept? Kirk says he called Princeís bedroom and office, and the Kirkís phone records show:7:49am 0:00 Voice call Paisley Park bedroom7:51am 0:00 Voice call Paisley Park kitchenHowever the landlines at Paisley Park show many incoming calls that are short and trigger a second call line suggesting an automatic answering service (perhaps through the telephone service provider) and the length is often at least 5 seconds, so Kirk should have expected to hear the automatic answering service, but the length is 0:00 so there was no message ñ the question is WHO TURNED IT OFF? The last call to be received at Paisley Park was 20160420 1541 hours from Joshua Dunham (Josh Welton?). However an email supposedly from Prince indicates Prince had received an email from Phaedra asking Prince to call Marilyn and reimburse some money, to which Prince replied ìDone. Thanxî at 20160420 2003 hours. This phone call would likely have been made after Prince returned from Dr Schulenberg and so must have happened around 8pm that evening. Did someone tamper with the phone records or phone line?

20160421 in the early hours (0416 hours) Kirk Johnson sent Prince an email subject line ìCall me when you get this?î Prince was often awake in the early hours so it must have been strange for Prince to not call Kirk. (There are other 1 hour long phone calls from Princeís landline at midnight or 1am.)And prior to this email (20160421 0341 hours), Kirk sent an email with the subject line ìWe have Dr Working On All The Care needed In Houseî. This could be Kirk and something to do with the arrangement for Prince to meet with Kornfield and consider rehab. However it could also be code for ìwe have found another doctor who will source authentic prescription medication and keep if off the official recordsî. Or both of these emails could be Kirk pretending to be concerned but in actual fact knowing the Prince problem would be sorted by the morning.

Both Kirk and Meron make 40 minute phone calls to other people just before 6am on 20160421. Perhaps they were both emotionally upset and needed to talk to some people, and even if neither KJ nor Meron revealed anything to the other party, we can only wonder why they were making phone calls at this hour. (We do not have enough of their phone records to see if they typically made long phone calls at 6am in the morning. This seems unlikely given Princeís work day usually starts around 12noon and goes late into the night.)

The sheriffís office report also says Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) had been told by Kirk Johnson that one of the security guards found Prince (later possibly identified as Shawn Powell but the sheriffís office did not hear back from this person). (There are many gaps and inconsistencies in the information provided by Kirk Johnson.) Tykaís husband claimed Prince had not slept for six days leading up to his death (Maurice Phillips ñ says he saw him that weekend). One wonders how he could have known such a thing, unless of course Maurice Phillips saw Prince the day or night he died.

It is important to note Princeís death was ruled an accidental overdose, and not a murder, therefore no one is looking for motive or means. Warner and Tyka have motive.

Warner is a company and needs only play the waiting game ñ wait until Prince dies, and then rescind or negate whatever new agreements were imposed upon them. Perhaps Londell McMillan and Phaedra Ellis Lamkins were complicit in this, to appear to give Prince what he wanted, in order to also gain the assurance that the masters would return to Warner upon the death of Prince.
Meantime if a person learns they are not on the will, but there is a way for them to remove the will and allow that person access to the inheritance, it makes sense that person would be a willing participant in the creation of whatever narrative best suits. Warner could argue that is in both Warner and Tykaís interest to maintain the legacy of Princeís work, to ensure a continued inflow of funds for the estate. In this scenario it is likely Tyka would to agree to whatever terms are necessary. It may be Phaedra was also encouraged to invite various persons to the first memorial in order to bring Tyka, Londell McMillan, Bremar Bank persons and so on together to encourage the next steps that would be in all of their interests.

There is one phone call tip where the person believes they heard Prince tell them Tykaís husband was forcing Prince to take pills on the night of 20160420 (or perhaps the early hours of 20160421). It seems the sheriffís office considered this personís claims too crazy to follow through on. However this person also claims they knew Princeís clothes were on backward before this information was reported in the news. Or maybe the person is partly psychic and was just trying to ensure the sheriffís office spent some time investigating Tyka. The Carver documents indicate a statement was taken from Tyka but the statement is not in the pack the sheriffís office provided to the public. And another tip has a person saying they spoke to Prince the night he died (on a burner phone they provided him with) and they also claim they heard someone else in the background that night.

BUT EVEN MORE DISTURBING

While Prince may have become a Jehovah Witness in 2003, some of the lyrics in songs written in the 1980s suggest Prince had been a satanist secretly, while publicly pretending to have some Christian beliefs. (Closely listen to lyrics in the albums Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain and then ask why Prince would only play most of these songs partially in medleys after 2003 ñ it is because Prince is uncomfortable singing these lyrics and ìretiredî playing them in full in 2003 after the One Night Alone Tour. ASIDE: Prince gives himself a free pass on the song Purple Rain, also a song that is secretly satanic ñ check out the youtube clip playing the song in reverse where the phrase ìPurple Rainî becomes ìHell Waterî.)

Satanists swear secret oaths, pledging undying service to Satan/Lucifer and that their life is forfeit should they attempt to leave. Much of the iconography throughout Princeís career suggests continued affiliation with the occult or satanic (such as the all seeing eye of Osiris), and it may be Prince did this on purpose to keep both sides guessing. However I do think that during the last few years of his life Prince did try to be more of a committed Christian (for instance by stopping people when they physically attempted to worship him and telling them to worship the one God above). Prince had been a satanist, and this means that when he left them he knew they would come for him. In a way some of the things he said in interviews would have also painted a target on this back, as he was going against the powers that be (for instance by referring Dick Gregoryís comments to do with ChemTrails). (Also, in the sheriffís office photos in Princeís small carry-on bag belonging to ìPeter Bravestrongî you can see Prince had a book ìGiantsî by Steven Quayle who is prominent in the alternative media.)

While Halloween is the most important time of year for satanists, the second most important date is May 1st, celebrating Beltane or Baphomet the horned goat god. And in the 12 days leading up to May 1st various satanic rituals are performed including ritual sacrifice. (ASIDE: Since Princeís death some fans are using the acronym GOAT to refer to Prince ìGreatest Of All Timeî. Prince would be upset by this acronym. Please donít use this.)

By placing the clothes on Prince backward, this death is being claimed as a ritual sacrifice for satanic purposes. (Backwards clothes mentioned in Investigative Reports #2 page 51.)

Various tips and comments in the sheriffís office evidence describe Prince as being claustrophobic and having an extreme dislike of elevators, not wishing to use them and choosing to not use them alone. One person claimed that in the song ìLetís go crazyî and the lyric ìAre we going to let the elevator take us downî that Prince associated the ìelevatorî with the devil. This in itself is a reason to leave Prince dead in an elevator ñ to give him what he most feared. (And it may be Princeís fear of elevators is because he knew he would one day die in one. This was not an irrational fear, it was real and correct.)

Dick Gregory connects some interesting points. That the private plane Prince travelled to and from Atlanta on is owned by Warren Buffett. Gregory says there are government agents everywhere. In this scenario someone on the flight could have administered fentanyl which caused Prince to black out. Fentanyl looks like an opioid overdose and has been used in various clandestine spy activities. And Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) also pointed out Judith Hill was on the plane with Prince when it had the emergency landing, and Judith Hill had been a backing singer for Michael Jackson when Michael died which he found troubling. Perhaps Judith Hill is a MK Ultra victim (a mind controlled assassin who doesnít realise they are used beyond their day job).

Dick Gregory also pointed out Queen Elizabeth was in Washington DC on that day 20160421, which happened to be her 90th birthday. Gregory said the Queen was wearing pink/purple and was promoting her grandson Will as the new Prince ñ ìon the same day they killed Princeî and that this is no coincidence. Gregory intimated that British Royalty would be pleased to have had the opportunity to outshine Prince on the day of his death, as the Queenís visit and birthday had been covered by the newspapers. Over the years one can imagine British Royalty having been upset repeatedly by a half-breed black boy being so talented and amassing such power and fortune, not to mention popularity. And in particular having the audacity to declare himself ìPrinceî. It was time to pay the piper. (The Reelblack Podcast Series).

I am aware that this all sounds crazy. However I believe these are the main reasons and the main culprits responsible for the death of Prince (Warner and Tyka). Prince was intentionally poisoned and we have been robbed of a great musician and artist.

In the tips those who knew about Princeís Will indicate he was interested in inspiring the next generation of musicians. I can imagine that he would have liked to see Paisley Park become a place where young musicians could have honed their skills, or used the recording studios and made significant contributions to music. Some say Prince abhorred the idea of Paisley Park becoming a theme park like Elvisís Graceland. We also know Prince was acutely aware that it is much harder to make a living as a recording artist nowadays compared to the 1980s. Prince was interested in young musicians and I can imagine that Prince wanted to help them by changing aspects of the contracts with recording companies, and also provide a place for musicians to be nurtured and grow.

Even more important is that Prince would have had a plan for the release of music in the Vault, and in particular to do it in a way where the record company gets little or nothing. Another reason for Warner to want Princeís Will to disappear.

In the end Princeís greatest weakness was his obsession with regaining control of his masters and this was used against him, as it brought him back into a new contract with Warners, such that Warners has regained control of the masters and Princeís music is being streamed around the world. And worse still, Tyka controls Princeís music, so all musicians and Prince fans will need to bow and scrape to Tyka in order to hear the work of this musical genius.
I guess it is a good thing Prince isnít here to witness this.

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Prince wanted to go home. He made it clear and concise in AOA. Let's lock this shit up and move on. I'm at the point of taking the good he gave/instilled in us and paying that forward. Conspiracies be damned. His music spoke for him. He wanted to go home, and he did.

facedown20160421 said:

MUSIC BUSINESS

PART B: WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM THE DEATH OF PRINCE?
(NOTE: Iím oversimplifying many of the issues in order to provide an overview of the key points.)
Since the 1980s Prince expressed his distrust of record companies, particularly when Warner Bros would insist on a production credit to music Prince had created entirely on his own. This was further magnified by Warner limiting the amount of music would allow Prince to release (such as reducing the length of Sign O The Times from three discs to two). Diamonds and Pearls was intentionally crafted as a mainstream cross-over commercial album in order to demonstrate the value of Prince the recording artist, and it is likely this was a manoeuvre by Prince to ensure the next contract with Warner would have a very high value ($100 million for the next 6 albums). Some might say the expectations Warner wrote into the new contract were excessively high (in order to guarantee Prince would fail to meet them), but this new contract also brought about the issue that was to plague Prince for the rest of his life ñ the new contract gave Warner ownership of all master recordings under the new contract as well as going back to 1978. Various disagreements culminated in Prince writing ìslaveî on his cheek in 1996 to reflect the position he felt he was in.
Around this time Prince sought to directly control the dissemination of his music leading to the creation of the NPG music club. However, while hard core Prince fans will endure anything to hear Princeís music, perhaps Prince underestimated the importance of radio airplay, and the underlying relationship between record companies and radio stations to actually create hits (as high frequency radio airplay is essential to creating ìhitsî that will in turn lead to record sales). The outcome of all this discord is that Princeís albums after Diamonds and Pearls are known only to hard core Prince fans.(billboard.com 20140418 reports 18.5 million Prince albums sold between 1991-2016 in the US, and of this 14.3 million were from the Warner label).
Soon Prince became obsessed with regaining control of his masters from Warner. His first 20 albums are where his commercial success lies, and any new contract with a record company will be made more valuable by being able to include music from albums created under the Warner label (1978-1996).
In April 2014 Prince signed a new deal with Warners. It seems like Prince had found a way to regain his masters. (Copyright Revision Act of 1976 includes the ability to terminate master recording copyright after 35 years, and this is part of the argument being made to force Warners to return the masters to Prince. Billboard.com 20160416)
However in the meantime it appears that Prince did agree to a new contract with Universal where Universal appears to have been under the belief that Universal would also be gaining control over Princeís music that had been created under the Warner label (past the 35 year mark). (The file is mostly redacted so it is hard to make sense of.)
After Princeís death Universal pulls out of this deal, citing they had been misled. The highly redacted portion of the legal documents likely provides specific detail from the Warner contracts held with Prince where Warners reasserts it has exclusive rights to Princes music albums from 1978-1996.
Soon after Princeís death the press reported the agreement Prince had with Warner was that Warner would return the masters to Prince, however in the event of Princeís death the masters would revert to Warner. In other words, it was in Warnerís interest for Prince to die.
Soon after Princeís death Tyka Nelson (Princeís full blood sister) files papers to say Prince did not leave a will and requests a special administrator to oversee Princeís estate (reported 20160426 on nme.com/news/prince/93234). Tyka and her half-siblings arrange themselves as the heirs to Princeís estate, and work with various legal teams in order to extricate Princeís music catalogue from the agreement with Universal. (At the time of Princeís death Bremer Trust was involved in managing Princeís estate.)
However in the Carver County evidence, one of Princeís ex-girlfriends said he had a will when they were dating back in the 1990s.Other tips say they know where Prince stored his will ñ one states it was in the safe with the sheet music in the Vault. The tips also say that Tyka had been removed from the will years earlier, but Tyka only became aware of being removed from the will a few weeks before Princeís death.
On 20160421 the sheriffís office did not secure Paisley Park and various witnesses attest to seeing Paisley Park staff leave with boxes or bags of items. Princeís ex wife Manuela stated Phaedra Ellis Lamkins (Princeís business manager) had said Phaedra needed to get access to Princeís laptop. On 20160422-23 a particular email address used by Prince was accessed, and the emails were deleted. Sheriffís office requested access to the email address some time later and appear to have only gained access to the last few days of Princeís emails with Google stating had the request been made sooner it might have been able to retrieve more of the deleted emails. And it is believed that Phaedra and Kirk Johnson spent some time in Paisley Park shredding documents, with claims of eight garbage bags (including said shredded documents) being removed from Paisley Park.
[At the very least Phaedra is covering up her own unethical mismanagement of Princeís business and misuse of Princeís funds. Theo London and Debra Johnson provide a lot of examples of Phaedra stealing large sums of money from Prince, and after Princeís death this money is still unaccounted for.]
Omarr Baker (Pís half brother) thought it strange Londell McMillan had been present at the small memorial held for Prince on 20160423. Londell McMillan had won back Princeís rights to his music from Warner but had later been fired by Prince. (Though Theo London talks about Phaedra as essential to retrieving the masters from Warner, see below.)
Omarr Baker (Pís half brother) noted Bremar Bank, who was administering Princeís estate, was appointing certain people as consultants even though they had had a falling out with Prince. Such consultants would be paid very well for this consultancy work. One such person was Londell McMillan. Bremar Bank appointed McMillan ìspecial music industry advisorî, in addition to Charles Koppelmann. Koppelmann & McMillan executed several major deals prior to 20170117 (when the tax bill of $12 million for Princeís estate was due). These deals included ìrecorded music deals with Warner Music and Universal Music group ñ including previously unreleased material from the artistís legendary vault ñ and deals for publishing with Universal, performing rights with Irving Azoffís Global Music Rights, and merchandising with Universalís Bravado. Those deals also cleared the way for much of Princeís music to be made widely available on major streaming services; from July 2017 until February of this year [2017], Princeís music was limited to the Tidal streaming service, via a deal made by the artist that is currently being contested by the estate.î The Variety article goes on to say McMillan is representing four of the heirs. The article mentions Bremar Bank had stepped down, and Comerica Bank had been appointed in early 2017 to administer Princeís estate. Comerica Bank appointed Spotifyís Tory Carter as its entertainment adviser. (Aswad, J ìPrince Estate Names New Adviser: Spotifyís Troy Carterî variety.com 10 April 2017.)
The points in this article directly contradict Princeís own wishes when Prince was alive. The estate would probably argue it needed to come up with the money to pay the federal tax bill.
Since Princeís death we have much of Princeís music becoming widely available over various streaming services. When alive Prince had an agreement with Tidal and it may be that Prince was interested in the idea that the artists have some ownership of the streaming service and so have more control, or are more likely to see a larger share of the profits. But this agreement has been undone by Princeís estate since Princeís death.
Some of Princeís social media feed indicates Prince and Warner had an agreement for a new vinyl release of Purple Rain but there had been delays on Warners side (with Prince saying Warner didnít want to pay the proper amount for the rights). Another example of Princeís frustration with Warner. On the other hand a posthumous release would likely be much more profitable, particularly if the new agreements with Prince could be replaced by the original contract terms (circa 1984).
In the legal documents to do with Universal rescinding its claim on Princeís entire music publishing rights is the claim that the estate had suffered by the various representatives not properly taking steps to make the most of the opportunity to make money from Princeís music catalogue upon Princeís death, and that this was largely due to the very complicated mess of agreements around ownership of Princeís music across various record companies. (In contrast Warner, having complete control of Princeís three films, was easily able to arrange the re-release of the films on bluray). It appears this argument by the estate was part of the argument towards having Universal withdraw its claims to Princeís music publishing catalogue. And the documents also call for Phaedra to be removed as a representative in relation to various business matters.
Statements by Debra Johnson (business manager in 2013-15) provide further explanations as to the unethical conduct of Phaedra to the point of Phaedra including herself as the beneficiary of certain agreements (rather than Prince or the entity ìNPGî) meaning that Phaedra would receiving all of the monies payable for Princeís publishing catalogue (but also that Phaedra would become owner of all of Princeís copyrights ñ this seems absurd). Debra Johnson was particularly concerned that a record company with offices around the globe and agreements with local radio stations would be needed to collect this money from each state/territory. It seems Prince and Phaedra were drawn to the simple idea of collecting the money and not having a record company involved would mean more money for Prince. But Debra felt it would be difficult to ensure the various monies would be able to be collected without a record company. Itís hard to tell if perhaps Phaedraís intention was to sub-contract this out to a different record company (Universal, and this is another part of what Universal is trying to back out of). (Strangely the voice recording interview between Debra Johnson and the sheriffís office cuts out at this part of the story.)
Theo Londonís comments reveal Van Jones had introduced Prince to Phaedra and that Phaedra would be able to help Prince regain the masters from Warner. Theo thought the sequence of events was interesting. Phaedra was able to magically get the masters for Prince. Prince told Theo he wanted LA Reed to have Princeís next album and Theo was negotiating with LA Reed. Phaedra would find out the deal being offered by LA Reed, and then Warner would provide something better. And this happened repeatedly. Then the next album goes to Warner. Theo says it was ìodd to me that she would fight so hard to get the next album with Warner, after this man has fought so hard to extricate himself from Warner.î Theo then said he had been told CNN is owned by Warner, and Van Jones is a paid contributer for CNN. And that he would not be surprised if Warner had Van Jones send in Phaedra, so that in reality Phaedra would be being paid by Warner. Who stands to benefit? Warner. This means that after Princeís death:-Warner regained control of Princeís music catalogue and possession of the masters-the streaming services gained access to much of Princeís existing music catalogue-Princeís siblings gained access and control to his estate by claiming there was no will (even though those close to him knew of a will, where it was and informed sheriffís office that Tyka recently had learnt she was not on the will).
For Warner the amount of money associated with Prince may in itself not be a lot of money, but it is likely the greater threat to Warner is having Prince succeed in changing the rules of the game which would impact how much money Warner can make from all of its contracts.
Sheriffís office accessed Princeís Vault on 20160515 1730 hours. Bremar Bank provided consent for sheriffís office to have first access to the vault. Bremar Bank were also present at Paisley Park Vault on 20160515. Sheriffís office commenced their search at 1900 hours through to 1938 hours, and then turned the vault over to Bremar Bank. (A sheriffís office photo dated 20160511 shows the Vault steel door with red sheriffís office sticker. However a sheriffís office photo dated 20160510 does not have any stickers on the Vault steel door. The Vault is a combination safe. Thus anyone with the access code could have entered any time between 20160420 to 20160510 and removed the will.)
In the tips one person said the will is kept inside the Vault in a safe with the sheet music. Inside the Vault there is a black cupboard and possibly some paper on a shelf labelled ìPPR Artists/ PRN MUSIC INCî. Or perhaps there had been a small safe that has been removed prior to the sheriffís office gaining access to the Vault (a few shelves look empty top left and top right, while most other shelves are completely full). The tip mentioned Prince often changed the will and would have two notaries sign it every time he made a change, meaning Prince had lawyers well aware that Prince had a will as they had signed it many times. If these lawyers were from Bremar Bank perhaps they had been told to not mention any knowledge of Princeís existing will. Once Prince dies Prince is no longer the ìclientî. Instead the person most likely to inherit the estate becomes the person Bremar Bank will want to engage with and if that person becomes the client of Bremar Bank then Bremar Bank will act in that personís interest.
It is likely that Tyka and her siblings would be more manageable than Prince and for this reason it would be in Warnerís interest for Tyka and her siblings to inherit Princeís estate.
Some reported that Kirk Johnson left the US soon after Princeís death and travelled to Switzerland. (The Sheriffís office report state Kirk Johnson left to go on a cruise.)
PURE SPECULATION:Perhaps Prince would have had funds in Switzerland or elsewhere (beyond the reach of the US government) and Kirk Johnson went to Switzerland to ensure those funds remained safe. At the time of Princeís death Kirk Johnson lived in a house provided by Prince. Tyka also lived in house belonging to Prince. It seemed strange to me that Tyka would agree to an equal share of Princeís estate, equal to that of the other four half-siblings. Perhaps we can speculate a share of Princeís wealth is held in Swiss or other bank accounts, and Kirk Johnson visited to ensure Tyka and Tyka alone would have access to that money, and in return perhaps Tyka would allow Kirk Johnson to continue to live in the house Prince provided to him.
On 20160420 at 2138hrs Kirk Johnson accidentally sent Dr Schulenberg a text message (IMG_0061) with a photo of stairs from the NPG music club area (near the sound stage). Who did Kirk intend for this message to go to? Why is Kirk showing someone how to get around inside at Paisley Park the night before Prince is found dead? The phone records in the sheriffís office documents commence at midnight 0000 hours on 20160421. (It is also interesting to see there is a text message 20160421 235 hrs from Sheila E to Kirk. However Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) said Sheila E and Prince had not been on good terms for 2-3 years.)
The next morning Andrew Kornfield thought he would be taken straight to Paisley Park to speak with Prince but instead ends up having breakfast with Kirk and Meron. Kirk says he is waiting for Prince to wake up and wants to give Prince something to take the edge off, but does Kirk really think Prince has slept? Kirk says he called Princeís bedroom and office, and the Kirkís phone records show:7:49am 0:00 Voice call Paisley Park bedroom7:51am 0:00 Voice call Paisley Park kitchenHowever the landlines at Paisley Park show many incoming calls that are short and trigger a second call line suggesting an automatic answering service (perhaps through the telephone service provider) and the length is often at least 5 seconds, so Kirk should have expected to hear the automatic answering service, but the length is 0:00 so there was no message ñ the question is WHO TURNED IT OFF? The last call to be received at Paisley Park was 20160420 1541 hours from Joshua Dunham (Josh Welton?). However an email supposedly from Prince indicates Prince had received an email from Phaedra asking Prince to call Marilyn and reimburse some money, to which Prince replied ìDone. Thanxî at 20160420 2003 hours. This phone call would likely have been made after Prince returned from Dr Schulenberg and so must have happened around 8pm that evening. Did someone tamper with the phone records or phone line?
20160421 in the early hours (0416 hours) Kirk Johnson sent Prince an email subject line ìCall me when you get this?î Prince was often awake in the early hours so it must have been strange for Prince to not call Kirk. (There are other 1 hour long phone calls from Princeís landline at midnight or 1am.)And prior to this email (20160421 0341 hours), Kirk sent an email with the subject line ìWe have Dr Working On All The Care needed In Houseî. This could be Kirk and something to do with the arrangement for Prince to meet with Kornfield and consider rehab. However it could also be code for ìwe have found another doctor who will source authentic prescription medication and keep if off the official recordsî. Or both of these emails could be Kirk pretending to be concerned but in actual fact knowing the Prince problem would be sorted by the morning.
Both Kirk and Meron make 40 minute phone calls to other people just before 6am on 20160421. Perhaps they were both emotionally upset and needed to talk to some people, and even if neither KJ nor Meron revealed anything to the other party, we can only wonder why they were making phone calls at this hour. (We do not have enough of their phone records to see if they typically made long phone calls at 6am in the morning. This seems unlikely given Princeís work day usually starts around 12noon and goes late into the night.)
The sheriffís office report also says Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) had been told by Kirk Johnson that one of the security guards found Prince (later possibly identified as Shawn Powell but the sheriffís office did not hear back from this person). (There are many gaps and inconsistencies in the information provided by Kirk Johnson.) Tykaís husband claimed Prince had not slept for six days leading up to his death (Maurice Phillips ñ says he saw him that weekend). One wonders how he could have known such a thing, unless of course Maurice Phillips saw Prince the day or night he died.
It is important to note Princeís death was ruled an accidental overdose, and not a murder, therefore no one is looking for motive or means. Warner and Tyka have motive.
Warner is a company and needs only play the waiting game ñ wait until Prince dies, and then rescind or negate whatever new agreements were imposed upon them. Perhaps Londell McMillan and Phaedra Ellis Lamkins were complicit in this, to appear to give Prince what he wanted, in order to also gain the assurance that the masters would return to Warner upon the death of Prince.
Meantime if a person learns they are not on the will, but there is a way for them to remove the will and allow that person access to the inheritance, it makes sense that person would be a willing participant in the creation of whatever narrative best suits. Warner could argue that is in both Warner and Tykaís interest to maintain the legacy of Princeís work, to ensure a continued inflow of funds for the estate. In this scenario it is likely Tyka would to agree to whatever terms are necessary. It may be Phaedra was also encouraged to invite various persons to the first memorial in order to bring Tyka, Londell McMillan, Bremar Bank persons and so on together to encourage the next steps that would be in all of their interests.
There is one phone call tip where the person believes they heard Prince tell them Tykaís husband was forcing Prince to take pills on the night of 20160420 (or perhaps the early hours of 20160421). It seems the sheriffís office considered this personís claims too crazy to follow through on. However this person also claims they knew Princeís clothes were on backward before this information was reported in the news. Or maybe the person is partly psychic and was just trying to ensure the sheriffís office spent some time investigating Tyka. The Carver documents indicate a statement was taken from Tyka but the statement is not in the pack the sheriffís office provided to the public. And another tip has a person saying they spoke to Prince the night he died (on a burner phone they provided him with) and they also claim they heard someone else in the background that night.
BUT EVEN MORE DISTURBINGÖWhile Prince may have become a Jehovah Witness in 2003, some of the lyrics in songs written in the 1980s suggest Prince had been a satanist secretly, while publicly pretending to have some Christian beliefs. (Closely listen to lyrics in the albums Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain and then ask why Prince would only play most of these songs partially in medleys after 2003 ñ it is because Prince is uncomfortable singing these lyrics and ìretiredî playing them in full in 2003 after the One Night Alone Tour. ASIDE: Prince gives himself a free pass on the song Purple Rain, also a song that is secretly satanic ñ check out the youtube clip playing the song in reverse where the phrase ìPurple Rainî becomes ìHell Waterî.)
Satanists swear secret oaths, pledging undying service to Satan/Lucifer and that their life is forfeit should they attempt to leave. Much of the iconography throughout Princeís career suggests continued affiliation with the occult or satanic (such as the all seeing eye of Osiris), and it may be Prince did this on purpose to keep both sides guessing. However I do think that during the last few years of his life Prince did try to be more of a committed Christian (for instance by stopping people when they physically attempted to worship him and telling them to worship the one God above). Prince had been a satanist, and this means that when he left them he knew they would come for him. In a way some of the things he said in interviews would have also painted a target on this back, as he was going against the powers that be (for instance by referring Dick Gregoryís comments to do with ChemTrails). (Also, in the sheriffís office photos in Princeís small carry-on bag belonging to ìPeter Bravestrongî you can see Prince had a book ìGiantsî by Steven Quayle who is prominent in the alternative media.)
While Halloween is the most important time of year for satanists, the second most important date is May 1st, celebrating Beltane or Baphomet the horned goat god. And in the 12 days leading up to May 1st various satanic rituals are performed including ritual sacrifice. (ASIDE: Since Princeís death some fans are using the acronym GOAT to refer to Prince ìGreatest Of All Timeî. Prince would be upset by this acronym. Please donít use this.)
By placing the clothes on Prince backward, this death is being claimed as a ritual sacrifice for satanic purposes. Various tips and comments in the sheriffís office evidence describe Prince as being claustrophobic and having an extreme dislike of elevators, not wishing to use them and choosing to not use them alone. One person claimed that in the song ìLetís go crazyî and the lyric ìAre we going to let the elevator take us downî that Prince associated the ìelevatorî with the devil. This in itself is a reason to leave Prince dead in an elevator ñ to give him what he most feared. (And it may be Princeís fear of elevators is because he knew he would one day die in one. This was not an irrational fear, it was real and correct.)
Dick Gregory connects some interesting points. That the private plane Prince travelled to and from Atlanta on is owned by Warren Buffett. Gregory says there are government agents everywhere. In this scenario someone on the flight could have administered fentanyl which caused Prince to black out. Fentanyl looks like an opioid overdose and has been used in various clandestine spy activities. And Omarr Baker (Princeís brother) also pointed out Judith Hill was on the plane with Prince when it had the emergency landing, and Judith Hill had been a backing singer for Michael Jackson when Michael died which he found troubling. Perhaps Judith Hill is a MK Ultra victim (a mind controlled assassin who doesnít realise they are used beyond their day job).
Dick Gregory also pointed out Queen Elizabeth was in Washington DC on that day 20160421, which happened to be her 90th birthday. Gregory said the Queen was wearing pink/purple and was promoting her grandson Will as the new Prince ñ ìon the same day they killed Princeî and that this is no coincidence. Gregory intimated that British Royalty would be pleased to have had the opportunity to outshine Prince on the day of his death, as the Queenís visit and birthday had been covered by the newspapers. Over the years one can imagine British Royalty having been upset repeatedly by a half-breed black boy being so talented and amassing such power and fortune, not to mention popularity. And in particular having the audacity to declare himself ìPrinceî. It was time to pay the piper. (The Reelblack Podcast Series).
I am aware that this all sounds crazy. However I believe these are the main reasons and the main culprits responsible for the death of Prince (Warner and Tyka). Prince was intentionally poisoned and we have been robbed of a great musician and artist.
In the tips those who knew about Princeís Will indicate he was interested in inspiring the next generation of musicians. I can imagine that he would have liked to see Paisley Park become a place where young musicians could have honed their skills, or used the recording studios and made significant contributions to music. Some say Prince abhorred the idea of Paisley Park becoming a theme park like Elvisís Graceland. We also know Prince was acutely aware that it is much harder to make a living as a recording artist nowadays compared to the 1980s. Prince was interested in young musicians and I can imagine that Prince wanted to help them by changing aspects of the contracts with recording companies, and also provide a place for musicians to be nurtured and grow.
Even more important is that Prince would have had a plan for the release of music in the Vault, and in particular to do it in a way where the record company gets little or nothing. Another reason for Warner to want Princeís Will to disappear.
In the end Princeís greatest weakness was his obsession with regaining control of his masters and this was used against him, as it brought him back into a new contract with Warners, such that Warners has regained control of the masters and Princeís music is being streamed around the world. And worse still, Tyka controls Princeís music, so all musicians and Prince fans will need to bow and scrape to Tyka in order to hear the work of this musical genius.
I guess it is a good thing Prince isnít here to witness this.

OMG...where to start in debunking this geyser of_____________?????

My opinion is simple: he took his own life. The clothes, the elevator, sending people away ... he planned it all. On the fly, I think, but after Moline what could he do? His secret was out. I still wonder about a chronic and/or terminal illness in the background, but he had been failing for two years, minimum, and April 2016 was as far as he could go.

just a thought out of the blue ...I have always thought it was strange he was riding his bicycle in a shopping mall parking lot a few days before he died ....is this true....if so it seems a strange thing to do , even to show he was ok...

80tomato said:

just a thought out of the blue ...I have always thought it was strange he was riding his bicycle in a shopping mall parking lot a few days before he died ....is this true....if so it seems a strange thing to do , even to show he was ok...

No it's not. Prince always rode one of his bikes. Morris bought him one.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

he had ice cream? oh the scandal, but did he really? he couldn't have eaten much of it in those last days.

Prince had a sweet tooth.

Puling this over here from a thread that got gassed becasue it was a good post

Motivating Factors related to accidental overdose...

paulludvig said:

purplefam99 said:

To add the poster TrevorAyer has spoken frankly about this early on too And no one wanted or very few listened.

Trevor is just speculating. [Snip - luv4u]

I think Trevor pretty much hit the nail on the head.

TrevorAyer said:

MY mother has knee problems that make it hard to walk but loves to bike ... it is much easier ... if prince had trouble standing or walking biking is optimal short of needing a wheel chair

my point is why was he biking around a shopping mall parking lot

paulludvig said:

purplefam99 said:

fair enough, but his speculating has turned out to be closer to the truth in this one area.

Has it really? Do we really know much about the truth of Prince's personal life? Much of what Trevor speculated have been denied by close associates from the 80's onwards.

The one thing most of us should've learned by now, is that his ASSociates can not be trusted.

80tomato said:

80tomato said:

TrevorAyer said:

MY mother has knee problems that make it hard to walk but loves to bike ... it is much easier ... if prince had trouble standing or walking biking is optimal short of needing a wheel chair

my point is why was he biking around a shopping mall parking lot

that was the nicest place to go for a bike ride in Chanhassen? I don't think so. Weird.