PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Then why still ask the question publically? If you know, then why not pose the answer as a statement?

Because people need to think about why these pills were seperated. They weren't all thrown together and mismatched. Why? Why seperate them?

you mean where I originally put this out there in reply #652 and specifically stated

*if anyone thinks these batches were not intentionally separated, then you're not thinking clearly-or at all.

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Then why still ask the question publically? If you know, then why not pose the answer as a statement?

Because people need to think about why these pills were seperated. They weren't all thrown together and mismatched. Why? Why seperate them?

you just got finished stating "Menes explained it to you"-why? why are you still asking the question?

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

Because people need to think about why these pills were seperated. They weren't all thrown together and mismatched. Why? Why seperate them?

you mean where I originally put this out there in reply #652 and specifically stated

*if anyone thinks these batches were not intentionally separated, then you're not thinking clearly-or at all.

I don't specifically remember that, I mean there are a lot of posts here. I'm not trying to copy off of you or anything of the sort.

We've all had mixed feelings about it, sometimes I think he didn't know and got scammed on the lido, and sometimes I think he knew, that is why they were all seperated in different bottles. Then with his statment to Judith where he states he knew what he did wrong and it was because he mixed the 2.

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

Because people need to think about why these pills were seperated. They weren't all thrown together and mismatched. Why? Why seperate them?

you just got finished stating "Menes explained it to you"-why? why are you still asking the question?

BECAUSE I'M STILL UNDECIDED ON WHAT THE CORRECT ANSWER IS. MENES DID GIVE ME THE ANSWER, SO DID DICSH BUT THEY DON'T COINCIDE.

THAT'S WHY I'M STILL ASKING QUESTIONS.

WHY DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO YOU HOW MANY QUESTIONS I ASK?

I don't mean to scream, but how many times have I said it? Aren't we trying to take everyones opinions in to account and try to piece the puzzle together?

Here is the bigger mystery....on the way back from Atlanta why didnt he just take the Oxycodone script he got from Dr. S that day? Why did he even take his Bayer bottle to Atlanta?

The police investigation shows only 5 of the 15 Oxy script were missing.

Why wasnt he using the Oxy??

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Here is the bigger mystery....on the way back from Atlanta why didnt he just take the Oxycodone script he got from Dr. S that day? Why did he even take his Bayer bottle to Atlanta?

The police investigation shows only 5 of the 15 Oxy script were missing.

Why wasnt he using the Oxy??

he said they weren't working didn't he? Either he was really in denial or he was just telling people around him things to placate and confuse them intentionally which is possible.

PeteSilas said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Here is the bigger mystery....on the way back from Atlanta why didnt he just take the Oxycodone script he got from Dr. S that day? Why did he even take his Bayer bottle to Atlanta?

The police investigation shows only 5 of the 15 Oxy script were missing.

Why wasnt he using the Oxy??

he said they weren't working didn't he? Either he was really in denial or he was just telling people around him things to placate and confuse them intentionally which is possible.

The pills P said wasnt working were the new scripts (not oxy's) he got from Dr. S the day before he passed.

Since everyone says his then I will also say mine on the death of P.

When the news on TV gave me my instinct told me that it was a fake and I escarged "and now what has' invented". I read various posts / comments / articles spread across the internet, I read the file of the investigation after it was released, and my instincts kept telling me that it was alive and that it was all part of a script written by him.

Now you will say that it is absurd but think about it for a moment; the way in which his collaborators, family, investigators behaved, seemed to be all part of a script. Even the way PP was found, the pillor that seems to pose, the money scattered, the money in the safe after it has been tampered with and broken seals, the pc tampered with, the rushed funeral seems all part of a plan.

If I think P could have come up with something like that? Yes

The reason why'? He wanted to stop

Which output to best effect?

It was also said that P did not want us to know the truth because otherwise we would not have understood. Many motivations have been said, cancer, hids, leukemia, and many others. But if the reason was that he was tired and wanted to retire?

We know that if he did it normally the press would continue to talk about him and maybe he wanted to be left alone and live the rest of his life without being monitored / observed.

The way he acted the day before, especially the day before, seemed to want to convince people.

I think this is a good answer to the question "P did not want us to know the truth".

How many of his fans would get angry if they knew he was alive and he invented everything?

It would not matter to me modestly, having the confirmation that he is alive would only make me happy and what I feel for him and his music will not change.

My instinct keeps repeating to me that it is alive even if there are things that say the opposite (things that contradict themselves by themselves, moreover).

If my instincts are really right, I hope that he is reading because I wish him to be happy and if one day I should have the honor of meeting him I would hug him hard to make him understand that no matter what he did nothing will change what I feel for he.

Now you can also attack me and give me crazy, but in 40 years my instinct was never wrong.

Sorry if what I wrote maybe it's not very clear but I speak little English, I hope you forgive some mistakes.

Now I go back to my corner and thanks for the attention.

Roby78 said:

Since everyone says his then I will also say mine on the death of P.

When the news on TV gave me my instinct told me that it was a fake and I escarged "and now what has' invented". I read various posts / comments / articles spread across the internet, I read the file of the investigation after it was released, and my instincts kept telling me that it was alive and that it was all part of a script written by him.

Now you will say that it is absurd but think about it for a moment; the way in which his collaborators, family, investigators behaved, seemed to be all part of a script. Even the way PP was found, the pillor that seems to pose, the money scattered, the money in the safe after it has been tampered with and broken seals, the pc tampered with, the rushed funeral seems all part of a plan.

If I think P could have come up with something like that? Yes

The reason why'? He wanted to stop

Which output to best effect?

It was also said that P did not want us to know the truth because otherwise we would not have understood. Many motivations have been said, cancer, hids, leukemia, and many others. But if the reason was that he was tired and wanted to retire?

We know that if he did it normally the press would continue to talk about him and maybe he wanted to be left alone and live the rest of his life without being monitored / observed.

The way he acted the day before, especially the day before, seemed to want to convince people.

I think this is a good answer to the question "P did not want us to know the truth".

How many of his fans would get angry if they knew he was alive and he invented everything?

It would not matter to me modestly, having the confirmation that he is alive would only make me happy and what I feel for him and his music will not change.

My instinct keeps repeating to me that it is alive even if there are things that say the opposite (things that contradict themselves by themselves, moreover).

If my instincts are really right, I hope that he is reading because I wish him to be happy and if one day I should have the honor of meeting him I would hug him hard to make him understand that no matter what he did nothing will change what I feel for he.

Now you can also attack me and give me crazy, but in 40 years my instinct was never wrong.

Sorry if what I wrote maybe it's not very clear but I speak little English, I hope you forgive some mistakes.

Now I go back to my corner and thanks for the attention.

Several people have mentioned this, too. I only wish he was still alive.

Camileyun said:

Like some have recently mentioned, go back and read the article that came out right after his death about Dr. D, his supposed dealer from PR through 2008 (didn't Manuella mention he had a dealer in LA?) Knowing what we now know, I believe all of it. He knew how his life would play out and he told Tyka as much.I don't think it matters if he knew what was in those pills or not...his time was up.

I do not believe this fantastic Dr. D.

Why did not this phantom doctor speak before?

According to his interview he had many famous people including P, and that after he had retired there had been other people who had failed but who after the death of P felt obliged to speak.

For me it's all a hoax, another trying to get noticed behind P.

If everything he says is true he would have talked before and not just after P has passed. What did he not care about others?

Sorry but I can not believe it

PennyPurple said:

Roby78 said:

Camileyun said:

Like some have recently mentioned, go back and read the article that came out right after his death about Dr. D, his supposed dealer from PR through 2008 (didn't Manuella mention he had a dealer in LA?) Knowing what we now know, I believe all of it. He knew how his life would play out and he told Tyka as much.I don't think it matters if he knew what was in those pills or not...his time was up.

I do not believe this fantastic Dr. D.

Why did not this phantom doctor speak before?

According to his interview he had many famous people including P, and that after he had retired there had been other people who had failed but who after the death of P felt obliged to speak.

For me it's all a hoax, another trying to get noticed behind P.

If everything he says is true he would have talked before and not just after P has passed. What did he not care about others?

Sorry but I can not believe it

i don't believe dr. d either.

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Then why still ask the question publically? If you know, then why not pose the answer as a statement?

Because people need to think about why these pills were seperated. They weren't all thrown together and mismatched. Why? Why seperate them?

they were all stamped the same, the bayer and aleve bottles, did they test every pill? i think we

maybe assuming they were seperated because we have hind site know one was tested from the aleve

batch. i think he was maybe given a curteousy batch (that was a dud) with a real batch or ripped off

or the supplier made a bad batch. i don't think they were seperated in his mind. i think he has some

strong one and some not so good ones in his mind.

PennyPurple said:

Camileyun said:

PennyPurple said: But why lidocaine...if his goal was to reduce withdrawal symptoms, why not use something known to reduce them (clonidine) instead, and why did he say the clonidine Dr. S gave him wasn't working. Why prefer lidocaine (assuming he knew)?

I don't know. Maybe he really did know what those pills contained. Why else would they be seperated, and he told Judith Hill, that he got the 2 pills mixed up, is why the plane incident happened.

If he thought the pills were all the same, why not just take 1 bottle with him on the trip to Atlanta?

i thought in atlanta he had bayer bottle and KJ's percocets only.

purplefam99 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Here is the bigger mystery....on the way back from Atlanta why didnt he just take the Oxycodone script he got from Dr. S that day? Why did he even take his Bayer bottle to Atlanta?

The police investigation shows only 5 of the 15 Oxy script were missing.

Why wasnt he using the Oxy??

because he thought he had it under control (aside from what he thought the Narcan did to him) and this supports Menes' theory that he was trying to deal with the symptoms of his withdrawels in a manner than he had come to believe either had or would work for him...and it involved lidocaine....NOT adding Oxy's to the carefully calibrated mix.

PeteSilas said:

TrevorAyer said:

Prince had tried to quit many times and told tyka he couldn’t and that is when she “knew’. A prince level dealer would always be sure had his drugs perfect ... no dealer is trying to rip off prince and Prince wasn’t getting anything from random dealers .. he had custom loyal dealers in every city ... Prince used recreationally and likely at every conert since dirty mind. Sorry but nobody goes onstage in random bar in texas in his underwear while sober. Prince usage increased after sott Prince doing too much by emacipation overdosing and stealing mayte pain pills. Turns to religion larry graham who dealt with sly for help quitting ... couldn’t do it. Physical pain and a return to usage and touring musicology causes full addiction Hip surgery more pills ... another musical push in full on addiction with third eye ... Rev used ... johnathan coleman ... kj is def a helper in procurement .. Usage takes toll cant quit won’t stop performing or go to rehab Unfortunately inevitable... def not his first od tried to control it privately but it got away from him

Trevor, I have a close friend who is a Prince fanatic/devotee/follower for more than 25 years, attended more than 100 concerts, met him numerous times (parties/VIP areas/aftershows, etc.), close personal friends with many in the inner circle, an individual who had dealt with severe addictions personally and what you wrote is EXACTLY what they had been telling me for years...even when I couldn't accept it. They insisted they had seen it up close, had heard about it for decades and his lyrics were filled with drug references.

[Edited 7/4/18 18:49pm]

For those of us who were wondering what position he was found in, please see investigative file 2, page 53, #93

Bodhitheblackdog said:

TrevorAyer said:

Prince had tried to quit many times and told tyka he couldn’t and that is when she “knew’. A prince level dealer would always be sure had his drugs perfect ... no dealer is trying to rip off prince and Prince wasn’t getting anything from random dealers .. he had custom loyal dealers in every city ... Prince used recreationally and likely at every conert since dirty mind. Sorry but nobody goes onstage in random bar in texas in his underwear while sober. Prince usage increased after sott Prince doing too much by emacipation overdosing and stealing mayte pain pills. Turns to religion larry graham who dealt with sly for help quitting ... couldn’t do it. Physical pain and a return to usage and touring musicology causes full addiction Hip surgery more pills ... another musical push in full on addiction with third eye ... Rev used ... johnathan coleman ... kj is def a helper in procurement .. Usage takes toll cant quit won’t stop performing or go to rehab Unfortunately inevitable... def not his first od tried to control it privately but it got away from him

Trevor, I have a close friend who is a Prince fanatic/devotee/follower for more than 25 years, attended more than 100 concerts, met him numerous times (parties/VIP areas/aftershows, etc.), close personal friends with many in the inner circle, an individual who had dealt with severe addictions personally and what you wrote is EXACTLY what they had been telling me for years...even when I couldn't accept it. They insisted they had seen it up close, had heard about it for decades and his lyrics were filled with drug references.

[Edited 7/4/18 18:49pm]

And this is why it has been said that the ASSociates had to have known, but swear they know nothing.

PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Trevor, I have a close friend who is a Prince fanatic/devotee/follower for more than 25 years, attended more than 100 concerts, met him numerous times (parties/VIP areas/aftershows, etc.), close personal friends with many in the inner circle, an individual who had dealt with severe addictions personally and what you wrote is EXACTLY what they had been telling me for years...even when I couldn't accept it. They insisted they had seen it up close, had heard about it for decades and his lyrics were filled with drug references.

[Edited 7/4/18 18:49pm]

And this is why it has been said that the ASSociates had to have known, but swear they know nothing.

Poor Prince, what kind of authentic life can you live when you are surrounded by vultures, hangers-on, greedy/resentful relatives, enablers, cowards and people who simply do not know right from wrong. i.e. this GOAT you profess to love and respect is dying a slo-mo death right before your eyes and there's nothing you can do. Really ???

The question is which came first: the shallow/inauthentic people who led him to despair and self-medication or the self-medication that opened the floodgates to the greed heads and enablers?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

And this is why it has been said that the ASSociates had to have known, but swear they know nothing.

Poor Prince, what kind of authentic life can you live when you are surrounded by vultures, hangers-on, greedy/resentful relatives, enablers, cowards and people who simply do not know right from wrong. i.e. this GOAT you profess to love and respect is dying a slo-mo death right before your eyes and there's nothing you can do. Really ???

The question is which came first: the shallow/inauthentic people who led him to despair and self-medication or the self-medication that opened the floodgates to the greed heads and enablers?

Wow. Great question.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Camileyun said:

PeteSilas said:

i don't believe dr. d either.

I didn't believe it when I read it right after P.died...but, read it again. He says things that sound very familiar, and he nails the fentanyl and the Dilauded, coincidently found in his UA from Dr. S. And no, Dr.D. is a drug dealer, so caring about people is probably not his forte...just sayin'. And talking about supplying P. while he was alive would not have boded well for Dr. D(eath).

Hmmm....imagine that! Dr. D nailed not only the fentanyl, but the Dilaudid as well.

precioux said:

Camileyun said:

PeteSilas said: I didn't believe it when I read it right after P.died...but, read it again. He says things that sound very familiar, and he nails the fentanyl and the Dilauded, coincidently found in his UA from Dr. S. And no, Dr.D. is a drug dealer, so caring about people is probably not his forte...just sayin'. And talking about supplying P. while he was alive would not have boded well for Dr. D(eath).

Hmmm....imagine that! Dr. D nailed not only the fentanyl, but the Dilaudid as well.

people were so shocked when they read the Dr. D interview right after Prince died...but it wasn't a lucky guess...he was a supplier...he knew.