So Housequake on Twitter is encouraging the ORG (and others) to RT or follow in their footsteps to block and bann Prince 'fams' still claiming that Prince was killed by WB or believes in some kind of consipracy that resulted in Prince's death. In additon, those who claim or believe need to get a reality check and move on! | |
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the (not so) odd thing is that when susan is asked about that incident today, she seems to defer and say she doesn't quite know. Honestly, i think she is just reluctant to say anything negative now that Prince is gone. | |
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Strawberrylova123 said: purplerabbithole said: I don't doubt that he "knew" all along. I am just wondering what exactly "knew" meant. Maybe he used to pick up pills for p in his name, then stopped and P seemed to go off pills, but his health went to shit, people suspected it was pain and withdrawal, then KJ gave in again getting those 15 percocet, and then realized P had gotten other pills elsewhere..and was like "Oh, no, not this shit again". We don't know the ins and outs and ups and down's of this shit. We also shouldn't assume that P didn't take his own actions to get pills. He was carrying his own bags, he did have disguised bottles in those bags, he did have a vault with cash in it. He wasn't an invalid. He knew a lot of celebrities and others musicians other than Kirk Johnson and despite the looks of Paisley at the end of his life, his last two years weren't necessarily the same as the last weeks of severe denial. I was just watching the clips from his Baltimore concert for Peace in May of 2015. He knew a lot of frigging people. For all we know, he got drugs from doug e. fresh (doubtful, I am just throwing out one of many celebrities he knew and had casual friendships with.).
Prince knew a lot of different people and knew many famous faces, in the investagative files Manuela said during their marriage prince's drug dealer was a well known producer, this same producer tried to attend the memorial she put together but she blocked him/her from going. Who knows where prince got those pills [Edited 5/13/18 11:35am] I also wanted to add is that certain people weren't around him 24/7 | |
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Seriously? WTH. | |
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An old soul | |
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OK Clover... Let's go with that thought for a moment..... IF and I say "IF", KJ had no idea that P was addicted to opiates, then WHY on the morning of 4/14 did he get 2 prescriptions for pain meds from 2 different doctors? And WHY did he have those scripts filled at 2 different pharmacies??? In my opinion, KJ dang well knew!! Either that or HE is the one with the addiction. This wasn't his first time. He was experienced at this as he knew exactly what to do. I agree with you on " KJ not knowing"... that is pure I don't believe that KJ was alone in this fiasco, there were a few others. They are all culpable in this. I don't know what the statutes are in other states but in the Texas Penal Code Culpability it states "A person commits an offense if he/she INTENTIONALLY, KNOWINGLY, RECKLESSLY, WILLINGLY, OR WITH CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE". If the investigation had been handled differently with experienced detectives there may have been grand jury indictments. I have been lurking on a site that does research in chemical use. U47700, Fentanyl, ect. after spending maybe 5 hours on this site, I found web addresses to several suppliers that make Watson 853 laced with fent by buttloads. They were also discussing "presses". Why can't the DEA and CCSO find these sites??? That's a damn head scratcher....... Sorry for rambling. So much info in my head
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I remember right after he passed laura posted a video that Meron had posted on her social media at around 11 p.m. On the night of the 20th. At the time this was discussed we did not know that Meron was at paisley on the night of the 20th. So we now know she more than likely posted that video as she was leaving paisley. It was her, Meron, in her car crying and very upset and singing a song in her native language. I would be curious to know the subject matter of the song, and find it interesting that she would post something so emotional as she was leaving, especially because according to the investigation docs no one ever tried to contact prince that night...why would she be sobbing on camera? I don't know how to find that stuff, maybe someone out there can repost it...just wonder about all of it now... | |
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Exactly. Whatever. If they don't like what people are posting in their fan community via Twitter, FB, IG, whatever, That's THEIR community. But don't go starting drama simply because you don't like what's being said. | |
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are you sure? the "shots fired at paisley" sounds as if it were debunked. we shouldn't have gotten rid of laura. | |
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bondno9 said:
He probably also had access to a computer at home ... but they solely focused on Prince's laptop. Also, Prince had a desktop in the upstairs office I believe. That should have also been seized.
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The morning timeline of the 21st is still bothering me. A significant amount of time unaccounted for. In reviewing KJ'S cell phone records it looks like Andrew made several attempts to contact Kirk after landing from 6:22 a.m. - 7:42 a.m. I"m going to assume Kirk didn't p/u him up until after 7:42 a.m. Kirk then made two phone calls at 7:49 a.m. and 7:51 a.m. to Prince's bedroom and kitchen. After that no more attempts. What's even more strange is that Andrew didn't check in until 8:45 a.m. So what was going on between Andrew, Kirk, and Meron from 7:42 a.m. - 8:45 a.m. Andrew says that Kirk and Meron check him into the hotel and then they had breakfast. So, they had breakfast for maybe 15 mins? 8:45 a.m. - 9:00 a.m. and then headed for Paisley arriving at 9:15 a.m. approximately according to Andrew
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Andrew was taking to an office on the West side of the building. It was a larger office located off one of the larger recording studios. Yet, he was able to hear Meron scream and find his way towards the elevator?
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Also, Kirk stated looking in the black bag after the emergency landing but only finding medicine/prescription for something called Nyozen or something like that but couldn't remember the name ... UMM HMM In regards to the computers- JH was also asked about a “red laptop”. She knew about the thin silver MacBook laptop and the desktop in his office that “he would get up in the middle of the night” to send emails because he never slept through the night, but apparently there was a red laptop-anyone?? | |
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bondno9 said: 1. Why didn't they obtain a search warrant for Kirk Johnson's residence??? They found scripts issued in his name but didn't search his residence??? DUMB DUMB!!! 2. Also where was the Percocet that Dr. S. prescribed in KJ's name? It obviously wasn't found at Paisley or any of Prince's possessions. So what happened to it? [Edited 5/12/18 15:45pm] If I’m not mistaken, 10 of the 15 Percocet were found | |
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. Hey, Zena! You've been MIA lately! . KJ knew what was going on. Phaedra and Meron knew too. Did Prince seek-out these illicit pills on his own? He must have had a trusted source; either that, of KJ was facilitating the pills for him. The 20th & 21st just reek of foul-play, imo. . KJ said the morning of the 21st did not feel right and Andrew noted that KJ was acting nervous when they went searching for Prince. Kirk knows where Prince slept at night, so why didn't get his ass upstairs and knock on the damn door??!! You just have to wonder what is wrong with these people??!! In the amount of time they were prancing up and down the corridor at PP, they could have found Prince. The fact that they took the time to eat breakfast is another big head-scratcher!! . Amazing, you were able to find those sites, but the DEA can't?
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Strawberrylova123 said: purplerabbithole said: I don't doubt that he "knew" all along. I am just wondering what exactly "knew" meant. Maybe he used to pick up pills for p in his name, then stopped and P seemed to go off pills, but his health went to shit, people suspected it was pain and withdrawal, then KJ gave in again getting those 15 percocet, and then realized P had gotten other pills elsewhere..and was like "Oh, no, not this shit again". We don't know the ins and outs and ups and down's of this shit. We also shouldn't assume that P didn't take his own actions to get pills. He was carrying his own bags, he did have disguised bottles in those bags, he did have a vault with cash in it. He wasn't an invalid. He knew a lot of celebrities and others musicians other than Kirk Johnson and despite the looks of Paisley at the end of his life, his last two years weren't necessarily the same as the last weeks of severe denial. I was just watching the clips from his Baltimore concert for Peace in May of 2015. He knew a lot of frigging people. For all we know, he got drugs from doug e. fresh (doubtful, I am just throwing out one of many celebrities he knew and had casual friendships with.).
Prince knew a lot of different people and knew many famous faces, in the investagative files Manuela said during their marriage prince's drug dealer was a well known producer, this same producer tried to attend the memorial she put together but she blocked him/her from going. Who knows where prince got those pills [Edited 5/13/18 11:35am] Lest we not forget that the “little black bag” has been known for a long time. Mayte thought he may have even carried his will in it, but nevertheless, it always had cash in it and went with him wherever he went. This was stated in Maytes book. | |
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Yeah, and don't go suggesting that every other social media do the same just because they are. Oh well, to each their own. | |
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Bondno9 said something that poses yet another red flag: . Kirk then made two phone calls at 7:49 a.m. and 7:51 a.m. to Prince's bedroom and kitchen. After that no more attempts. . Now, why didn't he keep calling Prince's room, or get his ass up there and knock on the damn door? . The investigators let this case slip right through their hands like sand!!
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PeteSilas said:
are you sure? the "shots fired at paisley" sounds as if it were debunked. we shouldn't have gotten rid of laura. Yes I remember it for sure and laura was the one that posted it. I also remember it just got lost in all the details at the time and no one really said much about it...I would really like to see that post again, but I have no idea how to find it | |
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precioux said: Strawberrylova123 said: Prince knew a lot of different people and knew many famous faces, in the investagative files Manuela said during their marriage prince's drug dealer was a well known producer, this same producer tried to attend the memorial she put together but she blocked him/her from going. Who knows where prince got those pills [Edited 5/13/18 11:35am] Yep! And also mayte mentions that prince had aspirin bottles Lest we not forget that the “little black bag” has been known for a long time. Mayte thought he may have even carried his will in it, but nevertheless, it always had cash in it and went with him wherever he went. This was stated in Maytes book. | |
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cloveringold85 said: Bondno9 said something that poses yet another red flag: . Kirk then made two phone calls at 7:49 a.m. and 7:51 a.m. to Prince's bedroom and kitchen. After that no more attempts. . Now, why didn't he keep calling Prince's room, or get his ass up there and knock on the damn door? . The investigators let this case slip right through their hands like sand!!
Because, and I quote Kirky was “waiting for him to wake up to give him something to take the edge off/get rid of the jitters” | |
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I have a headache.com. According to Dr. S, the prescription from 4-14-16 was Percocet 5-325 and 15 pills. This is proven by the RX History Report. Now this is where it gets weird. In the bedroom/mirror/dressing room which adjoins the green room they discovered a dark colored bag. Inside, were two prescriptions in KJ's name and prescribed by Dr. S on 4-7-16. One was labeled Vitamin D2 and contained (7) green capsules and (8) oval yellow pills believed to be Ondansetron Hydrochloride 8 mg which is used to prevent nausea and vomiting. The SECOND bottle located in the suitcase in KJ's name was prescribed on 4-7-16 by Dr. S. The bottle was labeled Ondansetron HC. Inside of the bottle was one yellow pill identifed as Ondansetron Hydrochloride 8 mg. There were also eight whole white round pills along with four halves. The white round pills were identified as acetaminophen oxycodone hydrochloride 325 mg (Percocet). So the SECOND bottle contained the Percocet frm 4-14-16 but was mixed in with a script from 4-7-16?? If true, what happened to the original prescription bottle from 4/14??? Why were the pills mixed in and not kept in original bottle?
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Don't forget about the script that Kirk's dentist wrote. | |
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You realize, Pete, you're speaking for yourself. | |
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I wonder what would have happened if Prince's people staged an intervention with him. Like the set up on that A& E show Intervention. | |
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Hey Clover!! I had to edit my post because I initialy listed the date KJ got scripts as 4/20. I changed it to 4/14. LOL too many exit and onramps in my head today. | |
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No, he's not. | |
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. Yea, another red flag. Something to take the edge off? Hmmm.....almost seems like this was routine for Kirk or something....... . What did he mean by that? What was he planning to give Prince to "take the edge off"?
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Do you remember if it was a post on Twitter or Instagram?? Maybe we could backtrack through the posts although it may take a bit. [Edited 5/13/18 18:05pm] | |
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. Thanks for being so detailed. Very interesting that the pills were mixed, but why? Why would anyone mix Rx's? That's just crazy!! . I mean, even when I take my vitamins, I look to see what I'm taking! "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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Yeah he is. Unless you want him to speak for you. | |
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. Yes, yes!!
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. Good Lord! Those people are incapable of doing any such thing! Sorry to sound so insensitive, but it's the truth!! I would not want any of these people working on my behalf or in-charge of getting me medical treatment!! No thanks! . What should have happened is Dr. Schulenberg should have grabbed the bull by the horn and said to Kirk: "Look, we gotta get Prince into treatment NOW!"" . If I was a doctor, that's what I would do -- otherwise, I would want nothing to do with it -- just not worth risking your career over. No.
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