IMO Prince started taking pain pills for pain. He didn't take them to get 'high'. He got addicted to them because they are highly addictive and even the people who take them as prescribed get addicted to them, they build up a tolerence to where the pills don't work anymore and then the Dr's up the dose to help the pain. Blame big Pharma, when Oxycontin first came out, it was touted to us a wonder drug, and it was, until it wasn't.
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sooo true, great post, Penny | |
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I Think Kirk is the least guilty of the three. Beyond being a man and a big strong looking dude (which both contributed to people's notions that he was the guy to blame) he also knew Prince longer so I think folks are a bit angry that someone in the camp that long wasn't closer to Prince. But then again, these two men don't look like they had much in common. I am sure Kirk is not a moron necessarily but he doesn't strike me as a deep thinker and he seems a bit weak willed but I do think he is probably the one that should bare less of the blame than the two women. They had the purse strings, they had the extreme secrecy even more so than Kirk. Plus when Kirk bought those percocet, he led a paper trail to himself that he didn't eradicate or destroy. What procurer of illegal pills would leave a paper trail like that or even purchase those legal pills if he was already getting the counterfit stuff?? Is it worth leaving a paper trail to yourself for 15 percocet??
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I tip toward your explanation or maybe even suicide...but I don't think Prince was poisoned. I think he was desperate for relief and wasn't getting it. I think he was attempting to hide it from folks and wasn't doing too good of a job (but suspicions of usage without witnessing it directly won't get you far if you are a concerned associate even remotely out of the inner circle. ) I think Kirk knew of Prince's history but might have thought that since Prince couldn't get the legal stuff anymore that he was fighting back that demon. He might have attributed the weight loss etc to Prince just overworking and stressing himself out or maybe even to P enduring pain without much help other than an occasional percocet and limited movement (sitting behind the piano). And since Prince kept him busy doing different things and only called on him when he needed him, he was probably too wrapped up in other things to see the drug signs until it was too late. He should have told the truth to the cops, because I think he is probably more innocent than many think, but he wanted to protect the brand and to some extent, I hope, Prince and his legacy. When P was still alive, I sense that Kirk was trying to balance doing what Prince wanted, what protected the legacy and what Prince needed as a man..His mistake was that what Prince wanted (privacy) and what the legacy needed should have been trumped by what the man himself needed to survive.
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I don't think it's suicide. | |
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I go back and forth. But someone made a point about Prince thinking in molene that his taking a percocet and the pills in his bayer bottle caused a bad reaction (from mixing the two) and then on the 21st P chosing to stick to the one bottle and unfortunately for him it happened to be the kill pills--that scenario made sense to me as well.
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It does..and makes me cry all over again Someone here also said how he never complained despite being in what must have been awful pain, Physically and also emotionally considering everything... He soldiered on... | |
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One symptom of withdrawals is the chills. You can feel very cold. No doubt a good reason to crank up the heating more than neccessary. | |
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YES to everything...TRUTH Just a note about the different waters..He was looking at Alkaline Water.. An Alkaline enviroment is when the body can heal iteslf most effectively.
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No, you can clearly see his socks are inside out and his pants are backwards.
What strikes me as stranger is the fact that Andrew said Prince was laying on his left side, like he had layed down to sleep, and the fireman who Kirk accompanied to the elevator, said that Kirk opened the elevator door and Prince was laying on his back, with arms outstretched. | |
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. Where was this?! You meant either Montreal or in the other case Montreux. Writing some name resembling either one does not work. It may show you cannot point these locations out on a map. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Or it can show I'm not a native speaker. I actually thought that's how you spell it in English. Good morning to you too. [Edited 5/4/18 3:55am] | |
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. Am I a native speaker? Not of this language. Murder investigations need to be factual and correct. Kirk did it? Perhaps. Paper trails do not matter as they can show a carelessness w.r.t. administration (of legal stuff). The fentanyl meds will not have a paper trail. But who around Prince would have contacts in the area of illegal medications? The cook? Kirk? Who else? Who not? Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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I can understand a celebrity wanting his or her privacy, and to have people around who - maybe through a NDA - do not talk about what is going on. But Prince is dead. He cannot be hurt or compromised anymore. His reputation - his legacy - cannot be hurt or compromised anymore. Just tell the truth. Let it all out. This man was a giant - he will always be a giant. | |
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No ones going to tell the truth if it makes them look bad (or even criminal), as far as helping procure drugs. - If by truthy you mean the terminal illness theory, maybe there’s nothing to tell because he didn’t have one. In the same way no terminal disease wasn’t mentioned in the autopsy summary and never even alluded to in the investigation files. - This might get all the truth we’re really going to get. We know a lot actually — especially relative to what we know about any of this before he died. 1Sasha said: I can understand a celebrity wanting his or her privacy, and to have people around who - maybe through a NDA - do not talk about what is going on. But Prince is dead. He cannot be hurt or compromised anymore. His reputation - his legacy - cannot be hurt or compromised anymore. Just tell the truth. Let it all out. This man was a giant - he will always be a giant. | |
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I’m with ya..after getting through some of the interviews/transcripts. Not to mention she had enough cash on her to validate a 300 pill “drug run” ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Why does everyone look to Kirk to blame and not look at Meron or Phaedra? | |
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No, I am not referring to a medical condition. It is simply my frustration at these people not coming clean (apparently) with what they know. | |
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Your reply has nothing to do with your original and unpleasant remark about the way I spelt Montreux, even going as far as insinuating I probably did not even know how to pinpoint it on the map because of it.
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I am so frustrated at these associates I can't see straight. On top of that frustration it seems like we can't discuss the things these associates have done, here on the Org. Every thread about the associates is getting locked.
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Agree. After reading those transcripts any one of those three could be assisting Prince with getting counterfeit pills. As could anyone else, really. The chiropractor, the cook, anyone. | |
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I also wish they would say more but the reality is they can’t without making themselves look bad. If they acknowledge knowing about his opioid problem then it just becomes an issue of why they didn’t intervene. And we already know about his pain issues and surgery. I’m not anticipating much coming from associates at this point. Maybe someone who tried to do something then quit because of his resistance. 1Sasha said:
No, I am not referring to a medical condition. It is simply my frustration at these people not coming clean (apparently) with what they know. | |
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Meron asked the police to go back to her hotel room for a reason. She was taken there by the police. She then refused to answer her phone or door when she did not return to the cruiser. What was she doing in her room? Was she afraid the police were going to search her room? Things that make ya go hmmmm.
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NVm [Edited 5/4/18 8:13am] | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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Very good point. | |
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Anyone recall the circumstances over Merone's Twitter beef in 2016 (late Feb/early March) with some random females. She deleted the tweets but apparently they were in bad taste. ---
Also, wonder if she and Londell are still buddy buddy? | |
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I've said previously, that I'm suspicious of Meron because she was not forthcoming with the investigators, which tells me that she knows a lot about the situation. She also was walking around with a large wad of cash in her purse that she says came from memorabilia sales, but it still looks fishy.
Phaedra was on the other side of the country and did not see Prince on a daily basis like Kirk and Meron did. So there's really nothing to tie her to getting meds for Prince. | |
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. Good point; I hadn't even thought about T&C. Prince also loved Switzerland, and he very well could have had connections overseas.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. I place blame on all of them, not just Kirk. From reading the investigation reports, they were all doing something shady. Why would someone be using a private text app if they have nothing to hide? . Kirk calls the kitchen and Prince's bedroom at 8AM? He knows Prince is not up at that hour! . If Prince was in a bad way, why did Kirk, Phaedra and Meron leave him all alone??!! Anyone with common sense in their heads would never do that!! . Also, Gaither (P's bodyguard) stated that Prince never used the elevator....he always took the stairs!! . Why did Meron have over 3K in cash in her purse? . Why was Phaedra hacking computers? . Why would Vans and Phaedra set up charities that they know did not have the proper clearances? . Who's getting Prince's royalties?? . It just goes on and on and on........all these people are shady!!
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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from what i read about the pineal gland, it calcifies naturally, i once asked a doctor if that can be reversed he said "i don't think so". anyway, i've read online that the calcification isn't because of fluoride in the water because wild animals have the same thing and they drink natural water. It looks to me like its no more than a vestigal part of the anatomy.
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