littlemissG said:

kmama07 said:

littlemissG said:

I wonder if medical marijuana was ever presented to Prince as pain treatment? I wonder if he would even consider trying it because he called out audience members smoking at his concerts. Or marijuana oil, my hair styles takes it for his shoulder pain and says it’s the only thing that works.

It's interesting you brought this up. I was thinking the same thing. There are certainly types of medical marijuana that don't need to be smoked...oils, edibles...and types that don't have the so if one doesn't want the "high" feeling s/he is still able to have to pain/nausea relief effects.

I doubt that a professional singer would actually smoke it but you can also vaporize and inhale it.

Or, like you said, use edibles and oils.

There are strains that don´t give you a high.

tmo1965 said:

MMJas said:

I don't think there are any transcripts for those two.

Yes, they were in the summaries, but they did not publish the transcripts or recordings.

Yes, which makes me think that there is more to come. Fingers crossed.

PennyPurple said:

MMJas said:

Anyone read Apples IG post?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiQL3yuBJrA/?hl=pt&taken-by=apollonia_kotero

"Prince was guiding me to write my memoirs. He signed with Barnes & Noble, Chris Jackson. Prince asked me to STOP telling my stories to the press (2014) because they were priceless (I’m quoting him) I have his email reminding me of this🤣Prince explained his literary deal to me . I was shocked 😳 he was actually going to write his biography!?! He said my memoirs would be released within a year after his were released. He was going to “handle” my deal for my bio. I was actually terrified of the exposure this would bring. He reassured me YOU , our friends would appreciate it. He only got as far as 50 pages💔 Looks like it may be released for the Holidays. I asked him to be kind to me in his book 😝 He just responded: Da da daaaa!!! 😂 Oh man , first time speaking my truth about this particular subject. It’s time 🙏🏽💜☔️👑 It’s time for me to follow “all” of his instructions and plans. I have not out of respect because I felt it was too soon and my mourning process has been incredibly difficult 💔"

I'm sure she'll be putting a book out anytime now.

They all will. Eventually.

MMJas said:

tmo1965 said:

Yes, they were in the summaries, but they did not publish the transcripts or recordings.

Yes, which makes me think that there is more to come. Fingers crossed.

I sure hope so. I think the investigators need to find out who that doctor is that Prince used to see, but no one remembered his/her name. Hopefully someone called back with the name. I think that they need to also look into that chiropractor who would come out to Paisley Park. Eventhough chiropractors can't prescribe meds, maybe a crocked one would sell meds they got off of the internet or some other black market avenue. I believe that Prince saw that chiropractor a week or two before he died.

PennyPurple said:

petalthecat said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm sure she'll be putting a book out anytime now.

After all the crap she flung at Mayte, I'm sure she's just trying to justify her own book. And just like Mayte there is no way to corroborate her stories or even the above. To sell her book she will have to add something salacious. Prepare for the whirlwind romance and a love that lasted 30 years. Cynical? Moi?

At this point, I believe nothing that comes out of the mouth of any associate. Especially those set to make money off Prince's death. That includes books, concerts, tours, hair product lines, tshirts, tribute songs, dance classes, the lot.

tmo1965 said:

MMJas said:

Yes, which makes me think that there is more to come. Fingers crossed.

I sure hope so. I think the investigators need to find out who that doctor is that Prince used to see, but no one remembered his/her name. Hopefully someone called back with the name. I think that they need to also look into that chiropractor who would come out to Paisley Park. Eventhough chiropractors can't prescribe meds, maybe a crocked one would sell meds they got off of the internet or some other black market avenue. I believe that Prince saw that chiropractor a week or two before he died.

Yes, the chiropractor. Prince went to the doctor the day after the chiro came out. Also, his chef was a recovering opiod addict and had a prescription for suboxone. This case is a jig saw puzzle, just a matter of putting together who knew who and putting the pieces together.

MMJas said:

At this point, I believe nothing that comes out of the mouth of any associate. Especially those set to make money off Prince's death. That includes books, concerts, tours, hair product lines, tshirts, tribute songs, dance classes, the lot.

Yep I agree. The only book I'm interested in is the 50 pages that Prince did. If I want to read anything else, I'll check it out of the library, I'm not giving them a dime of my money any longer.

PennyPurple said:

MMJas said:

At this point, I believe nothing that comes out of the mouth of any associate. Especially those set to make money off Prince's death. That includes books, concerts, tours, hair product lines, tshirts, tribute songs, dance classes, the lot.

Yep I agree. The only book I'm interested in is the 50 pages that Prince did. If I want to read anything else, I'll check it out of the library, I'm not giving them a dime of my money any longer.

I feel the same way Penny ...I am just here for Prince and His music

80tomato said:

PennyPurple said:

Yep I agree. The only book I'm interested in is the 50 pages that Prince did. If I want to read anything else, I'll check it out of the library, I'm not giving them a dime of my money any longer.

I feel the same way Penny ...I am just here for Prince and His music

We as Prince fans need to stand up to the money grabbers.

80tomato said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. I also think that Prince did not know those Vicodin pills were laced with Fentanyl. Seems like he was concerned for his health, which prompted him to get in touch with Dr. Schulenberg on the 7th, so obviously something was worrying him.

didn't Kurt Cobain od in Rome and was saved and then a few weeks later went to a rehab clinic to get clean but then left and committed suicide...my point being maybe he ,Prince, was concerned for his health , or maybe he was just pleasing those around him

..been waiting for someone to connect those dots, and post it. thank you

littlemissG said:

I wonder if medical marijuana was ever presented to Prince as pain treatment? I wonder if he would even consider trying it because he called out audience members smoking at his concerts. Or marijuana oil, my hair styles takes it for his shoulder pain and says it’s the only thing that works.

My GF and I have had this same discussion. If Prince had used cannabis edibles in lieu of opioids... this story may have gone differently.

PennyPurple said:

80tomato said:

I feel the same way Penny ...I am just here for Prince and His music

We as Prince fans need to stand up to the money grabbers.

I will say , the music better start coming out soon or there will be none of my gold to grab anymore...we don t live forever

bondno9 said:

tmo1965 said:

I sure hope so. I think the investigators need to find out who that doctor is that Prince used to see, but no one remembered his/her name. Hopefully someone called back with the name. I think that they need to also look into that chiropractor who would come out to Paisley Park. Eventhough chiropractors can't prescribe meds, maybe a crocked one would sell meds they got off of the internet or some other black market avenue. I believe that Prince saw that chiropractor a week or two before he died.

Yes, the chiropractor. Prince went to the doctor the day after the chiro came out. Also, his chef was a recovering opiod addict and had a prescription for suboxone. This case is a jig saw puzzle, just a matter of putting together who knew who and putting the pieces together.

Seriously? Where did he say that?

Musze said:

PennyPurple said:

KoolEaze said:

bondno9 said:

Yes, the chiropractor. Prince went to the doctor the day after the chiro came out. Also, his chef was a recovering opiod addict and had a prescription for suboxone. This case is a jig saw puzzle, just a matter of putting together who knew who and putting the pieces together.

Seriously? Where did he say that?

In his statement to the police.

tmo1965 said:

petalthecat said:

[Edited 5/1/18 16:52pm] The last sentence is mine. No idea why it does that

[Edited 5/1/18 16:53pm]

Yes Kirk did say that. I know of the one in 2013 where Prince was taken to the hospital. It's listed on the Carver County Prince Investigation site. Maybe there were other incidents that perhaps they didn't call 911, but took him to the hospital instead.

My 1st impression with Kirk's comment was that he may have been saying this in front of Judith because he was trying to make her think that he just then realized that Prince had a problem.

during that hospital visit in 2013, it was also stated in the medical records that Prince "refused zofran" (med to help nausea) in order to "stay as natural as possible"....go figure.

KoolEaze said:

bondno9 said:

Yes, the chiropractor. Prince went to the doctor the day after the chiro came out. Also, his chef was a recovering opiod addict and had a prescription for suboxone. This case is a jig saw puzzle, just a matter of putting together who knew who and putting the pieces together.

Seriously? Where did he say that?

In the police documents.

PennyPurple said:

80tomato said:

I feel the same way Penny ...I am just here for Prince and His music

We as Prince fans need to stand up to the money grabbers.

CO-SIGN!

PennyPurple said:

CNN had this article today. It's almost as if it was written for Prince.

"Almost all of the increases in overdose deaths are attributed to illicitly manufactured fentanyl, not pharmaceutical fentanyl that has been misused or diverted. And we know that because the number of prescriptions for pharmaceutical fentanyl has remained relatively stable over the past decade, whereas seizures of illicitly manufactured fentanyl has skyrocketed," LaSalle said.

"So it really is due to illicitly manufactured fentanyl that is entering the market and that is essentially being mixed with heroin so that you have an adulterated product that people aren't aware of, so their risk of overdose increases substantially," she added.

This is the first time synthetic opioids have surpassed prescription opioids -- such as oxycodone and hydrocodone -- and heroin as the primary cause of opioid overdose-related deaths, according to the report.

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In 2016, when 46% of opioid overdose-related deaths involved synthetic opioids and 40% involved prescription drugs, 37% involved heroin, according to the report.

The synthetic drugs are primarily made outside of the country, according to LaSalle.

"Illicitly manufactured fentanyl is almost exclusively made in China," she said. "It's then shipped, broadly speaking, to Mexico, where it's added to the heroin supply before it enters the United States as a cost-saving measure."

After entering the United States, synthetic opioids often end up in places like the Midwest and Northeast, where the white powder form of the drug can easily be mixed with the white powder form of heroin or cocaine.

"In those parts of the country, you have a white powder heroin that you can mix fentanyl into pretty easily," LaSalle said. "Whereas on the West Coast, you have a black tar heroin, which is very difficult to mix the white powder into. So you just don't see the same distribution of fentanyl on the West Coast as in these other places."

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"Initially when synthetic opioids showed up in the US, it was largely mixed with heroin. But now we're seeing it mixed with cocaine, methamphetamines and other substances of abuse. And in the last couple of years we've seen this proliferation of counterfeit tablets that are made to look like commonly abused prescription drugs," Jones said.

"And that's particularly concerning because people who are not regularly exposed to opioids are going to be at an increased risk of the respiratory depressant effects of opioids because they have no tolerance."

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Thanks for sharing, Penny. It is beyond sad.

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The authorities are starting to crack-down on these dealers.

PennyPurple said:

KoolEaze said:

Seriously? Where did he say that?

In the police documents.

it is documented that the chef was a recovering opiate addict on suboxone, if you need the zip file and #, I will have to look.

Wasn't there a discussion here (Menes' thread on warrants)about 1 suboxone pill in the warrants NOT related to AK? Wonder if that was from the chef to Prince???

TheEnglishGent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I haven't followed Kurt Cobain's story very closely, but he seemed to have a strong desire to leave this earth. I think he was in a lot of emotional pain, and didn't care if drugs killed him. Courtney Love wasn't exactly a good person for him to be around, but they say birds of a feather flock together. Those two were like the modern-day Sid & Nancy.

Modern day? You want to feel old? Kurt Cobain died 24 years ago, in 1994. Sid Vicious died in 1979, so there were 15 years between Sid dying and Kurt dying. We are 9 years further from Kurt Cobains death than Kurt Cobain's death was from Sid Vicious'.

Time flies!

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That's true; their deaths were not very far apart. I guess I was just trying to point out how similar their life stories were.

tmo1965 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

poppys said: IMO...Prince had no idea there were bad fentanyl pills and someone else gave him those pills - he had no idea why he felt sick and was trying to figure out the cause...even going to the dr for tests, Fluids etc Then when he came home that night he had taken the meds which seems like he was given those laced pills on purpose. There was even a text shown from Kirks phone asking how to take the prescriptions he just got...that to me does not fit someone who is addicted to meds...he seemed cautious not careless. [Edited 5/1/18 21:43pm]

When I read that text, I was under the assumption that Kirk had seen the doctor for himself also, because he said something to the effect of "am I supposed to take all 3 of these". I believe that Kirk also went a CVS pharmacy before he went Walgreens. The Walgreens trip was for Prince. Of course after reading dozens of pages of transcripts, I could have my info confused on what happened when.

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Where was Prince when Kirk walked into Walgreens? They show pictures of Prince walking in the parking lot.

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Also, Theo said that was not like Prince at all to run his own errands -- he other people doing that for him.

MMJas said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm sure she'll be putting a book out anytime now.

They all will. Eventually.

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Sure, they can all write their books, but how do we know what is the truth??

tmo1965 said:

MMJas said:

Yes, which makes me think that there is more to come. Fingers crossed.

I sure hope so. I think the investigators need to find out who that doctor is that Prince used to see, but no one remembered his/her name. Hopefully someone called back with the name. I think that they need to also look into that chiropractor who would come out to Paisley Park. Eventhough chiropractors can't prescribe meds, maybe a crocked one would sell meds they got off of the internet or some other black market avenue. I believe that Prince saw that chiropractor a week or two before he died.

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A crooked Chiropractor. LOL

precioux said:

80tomato said:

didn't Kurt Cobain od in Rome and was saved and then a few weeks later went to a rehab clinic to get clean but then left and committed suicide...my point being maybe he ,Prince, was concerned for his health , or maybe he was just pleasing those around him

..been waiting for someone to connect those dots, and post it. thank you

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Has it been proven that Cobain committed suicide?

OperatingThetan said:

Musze said:

My GF and I have had this same discussion. If Prince had used cannabis edibles in lieu of opioids... this story may have gone differently.

CBD oil at suitable strength has helped many patients stop taking opioids and many brands (at least those legal in the UK) have the psychoactive elements removed, so there's no 'high' or risk of dependency. It's an oil so there's no need to inhale. They also sell patches and tablets.

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I'm not sure that Cannabis would have helped Prince's pain. Also, wouldn't that make him sleepy and unproductive?