Lovejunky said:

disch said:

Per Andrew's statement: A car service picked him up and brought him to the hotel, and he met kirk and meron at the hotel. They had breakfast together (perhaps at the hotel, not sure) then went to PP together.

So..

ONCE AGAIN

WHen Shulenberg recieves a text from Kirk at 8.15 am that says "Im here waiting for him to wake up and give him something to take the edge off

the implication is

Im at Paisley and I am in possession of some drugs

YET In his statement he didnt arrive at paisly until 9 am

Further more when asked about the prescriptions from Schulenderg Kirk states that he thinks he has them at home, ???

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SO many inconsistencies in his statements. It just does not add up!

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Everyone knows that Prince was not up at 8AM, or even 9AM!! He went to bed late, and woke up late.

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Call me nuts (I'm used to it here) -- but, I get this sinking feeling that KJ (and others) might have known Prince was already dead. It's starting to appear like they all scrambled at the last minute, trying to make it looked like they really cared and were trying to help Prince, but they had to come up with a good story, to make it all fit.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

LR is not a woman, LR is not a man...LR is something you will never understand.

I am laughing so hard right now!

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OH GOD!! That's the best thing I've heard all week!!

cloveringold85 said:

Call me nuts (I'm used to it here) -- but, I get this sinking feeling that KJ (and others) might have known Prince was already dead. It's starting to appear like they all scrambled at the last minute, trying to make it looked like they really cared and were trying to help Prince, but they had to come up with a good story, to make it all fit.

Maybe KJ. I could totally see that. I don't think Meron though unless she is a phenomenal actress.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

precioux said:

...nope, definitely was NOT

your dark humor is refreshing ..I get you

THANKS precioux....I get you too!

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If Prince wanted to commit suicide, what would be the point in seeing the doctor on April 20th?

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I don't not believe the suicide theory. Nope! Nada! Never!!

ChocolateBox3121 said:

KiowaTrl said:

Bold statement for someone who has never met the man.

U don't know me from a can of paint. So speak for yourself.

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I agree Chocolate -- Prince was never up early!!

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Up all night....sleep all day!!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Purplebflogirl said:

Wasn't Phaedra his Atty too? Maybe he did have a will and it was destroyed? The more we learn the more sorry I feel for him.Surrounded by vultures.

Phaedra is not an attorney.

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Nah, but Van Jones is.

I interpreted the DEA's comment no that they literally couldn't find her but that she wasn't in some database they have (of suspected drug dealers or something?)

tmo1965 said:

purplemist7777 said:

poppys said: No just that when she heard on news re Narcan, she knew. There r several paragraphs and she gave Name of LA based producer she thought was supplier back in 2004

I think that the DEA tried to find this person - Stacy Littlejohn - who is supposed to be a famous producer. The investigation documents state that the DEA could not find anyone by that name in their system. However, I googled her name and found she is a producer (https://www.imdb.com/name.../#producer), which makes me wonder about the DEAs competency here. Maybe Stacy Littlejohn is not her real name, but it should be really easy for them to find her.

My next question is, why would an accomplished producer also be a drug dealer?

tmo1965 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

Preliminary opiate calculations since we can't get the "doc" to respond. Small steps. More to come.

Posted wrong link.

1. Calculate ng/ml of hydrocodone in urine per report .

2. How much hydrocodone (in mgs) would one have to ingest to induce overdose (as in Moline). Convert and compare to ng/ml found in urine.

3. Your answer to (#1) should give you a clearer picture of (#2)

4. If (#1 and #2) are relational, what is the need for additional opiates to be ingested?

OPATU - Clinical: Opiates...ion, Urine

[Edited 4/26/18 11:23am]

Any mention of what was found in Moline?

cloveringold85 said:

poppys said:

tmo1965 said:

I think that the DEA tried to find this person - Stacy Littlejohn - who is supposed to be a famous producer. The investigation documents state that the DEA could not find anyone by that name in their system. However, I googled her name and found she is a producer (https://www.imdb.com/name.../#producer), which makes me wonder about the DEAs competency here. Maybe Stacy Littlejohn is not her real name, but it should be really easy for them to find her.

My next question is, why would an accomplished producer also be a drug dealer?

^ Hand & glove for that Industry - money/honey. We don't know if she was a friend/dealer or a user. Interesting info.

Maybe that's part of why she flew in. She's a helper by trade. As some here have been saying, someone who knew the ropes and could cut through some bullshit?

[Edited 4/26/18 11:15am]

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None of Prince's inner-circle want to say who these drug dealers were/are. They know their names--they're just playing dumb.

precioux said:

tmo1965 said:

Yes. I saw that and I was like how can you not remember how felt hearing that your brother had passed. I'm not related to Prince, and I remember how I felt.

She was high as a kite...probably then, and definitely for that lunatic interview. “He’s no Michael Jackson “...really?! She is just showing her utter contempt and jealousy that’s has never and will never extinguish as long as she is alive. She can not stand that he got all the attention and even now, then attention she is receiving is second hand. The only picture in my mind whilst she was unhinged and fidgeting with her glasses as well as stealing the journalists glass, mind you..was this Oh, and BTW...Eric Clapton never said that!!

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Tyka acts like the little innocent sister, who didn't really know much about her big brother. She claims she did not know about his drug use or medical issues. She acts totally clueless! I hope she is putting on an act, because if she is that much of a ditz, God help her!!

precioux said:

cloveringold85 said:

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If Prince wanted to commit suicide, what would be the point in seeing the doctor on April 20th?

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I don't not believe the suicide theory. Nope! Nada! Never!!

I know clover, and it’s ok. We all are here to discuss. Just because we have different theories doesn’t mean I don’t ❤️ You ~Precioux

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Thanks, honey! And, I still love you too!

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We all aren't always gonna agree on everything -- that's just a fact of life. I don't agree with everything my husband thinks either, LOL

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

U don't know me from a can of paint. So speak for yourself.

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I agree Chocolate -- Prince was never up early!!

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Up all night....sleep all day!!

And Kirk knew this more than anybody. It's NO WAY Prince would have came down from "The Green Room" and met with them that early. But to Kirk's credit he did try to call Prince earlier that morning in "The Green Room" & the Kitchen phones and didn't get an answer from Prince. So it is actually justified why he chose to go to PP & wake him up.

I'm sorry I don't believe your theory that Kirk knew Prince had transitioned earlier.Although he was the first to find him.

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Nah, but Van Jones is.

Wonder if the will was shredded along with?? Supposedly Mani knew of a will ... was she also there when Phaedra shred the 8 bags of ??

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Oh God -- this stuff does not sit well with me at all.

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Do you think Van Jones drafted his Will (if he had one)? I knew that guy was shady.

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Whatever Mani knows, she better start talking!!

precioux said:

cloveringold85 said:

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If Prince wanted to commit suicide, what would be the point in seeing the doctor on April 20th?

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I don't not believe the suicide theory. Nope! Nada! Never!!

I know clover, and it’s ok. We all are here to discuss. Just because we have different theories doesn’t mean I don’t ❤️ You ~Precioux

ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree Chocolate -- Prince was never up early!!

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Up all night....sleep all day!!

And Kirk knew this more than anybody. It's NO WAY Prince would have came down from "The Green Room" and met with them that early. But to Kirk's credit he did try to call Prince in "The Green Room" & the Kitchen and didn't get an answer. So it is actually justified why he chose to go to PP & wake him up.

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IKR?

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Kirk gives the word "shade" a whole new meaning!!

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He knows damn well that Prince would not be up at that early hour!! So, he calls the Green Room and the Kitchen to make it look legit.....Sure, as if Prince would be sitting in the kitchen at 8AM having his oatmeal......this guy is a real piece of work!!

cloveringold85 said:

poppys said:

^ Hand & glove for that Industry - money/honey. We don't know if she was a friend/dealer or a user. Interesting info.

Maybe that's part of why she flew in. She's a helper by trade. As some here have been saying, someone who knew the ropes and could cut through some bullshit?

[Edited 4/26/18 11:15am]

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None of Prince's inner-circle want to say who these drug dealers were/are. They know their names--they're just playing dumb.

I saw that Lala Escarzega said on twitter yesterday that she was upset that those in Prince's inner circle and the ones she knew were close to him didn't speak out.She also expressed her disgust about the Celebration.Someone then asked her if she would share what she knows and speak out for Prince and she became rather defensive and said she was talking about the death photos. I haven't looked at all of the phone or computer records but was her name mentioned at all?

pinkcashmere23 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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None of Prince's inner-circle want to say who these drug dealers were/are. They know their names--they're just playing dumb.

I saw that Lala Escarzega said on twitter yesterday that she was upset that those in Prince's inner circle and the ones she knew were close to him didn't speak out.She also expressed her disgust about the Celebration.Someone then asked her if she would share what she knows and speak out for Prince and she became rather defensive and said she was talking about the death photos. I haven't looked at all of the phone or computer records but was her name mentioned at all?

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Her name doesn't ring a bell. It's funny how these people all talk, but have no names to back up their stories.

cloveringold85 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I saw that Lala Escarzega said on twitter yesterday that she was upset that those in Prince's inner circle and the ones she knew were close to him didn't speak out.She also expressed her disgust about the Celebration.Someone then asked her if she would share what she knows and speak out for Prince and she became rather defensive and said she was talking about the death photos. I haven't looked at all of the phone or computer records but was her name mentioned at all?

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Her name doesn't ring a bell. It's funny how these people all talk, but have no names to back up their stories.

Thanks.When I first read her tweets I thought she was talking about those in his inner circle withholding what they knew about his drug problem.

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said: Wonder if the will was shredded along with?? Supposedly Mani knew of a will ... was she also there when Phaedra shred the 8 bags of ??

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Oh God -- this stuff does not sit well with me at all.

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Do you think Van Jones drafted his Will (if he had one)? I knew that guy was shady.

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Whatever Mani knows, she better start talking!!

I don't think that the shredding story has been proven. No one said that they saw this take place, to my knowledge. It's only been 2nd hand info.

Strawberrylova123 said:

80tomato said:

you are correat tmo....it appears he was drinking a lot of those 5 hour energy drinks ...I was at the drugstore yesterday and read that one should never exceed 2 per day and hours apart ...they have a high dose of caffeine in them which would make ones heart race

The normal heart rate is between 60-100 So prince's pulse was fine

for those of you (us) who aren't in the medical field (but I am an athlete who has checked my pulse often) pulse can range widely, "resting" heart rate for me at one time was 38, that was at complete rest, usually, when they check your pulse at a hospital, they call someone who may have walked in as "resting" which for me is never really my resting heartrate which is generally around 60 or lower these days.

cloveringold85 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

THANKS precioux....I get you too!

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If Prince wanted to commit suicide, what would be the point in seeing the doctor on April 20th?

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I don't not believe the suicide theory. Nope! Nada! Never!!

maybe to get people like kirk to think he was gonna go along, to mollify everyone to where he could get alone with all his pills. we don't know, maybe we never will.

cloveringold85 said:

tmo1965 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Oh God -- this stuff does not sit well with me at all.

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Do you think Van Jones drafted his Will (if he had one)? I knew that guy was shady.

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Whatever Mani knows, she better start talking!!

I don't think that the shredding story has been proven. No one said that they saw this take place, to my knowledge. It's only been 2nd hand info.

Do you know from who the shredding story originated?

KiowaTrl said:

tmo1965 said:

I don't think that the shredding story has been proven. No one said that they saw this take place, to my knowledge. It's only been 2nd hand info.

Do you know from who the shredding story originated?

I believe it was Manuela. Omarr told this to investigators.

cloveringold85 said:

What are you trying to calculate (what will this show us, do you think)? Are you trying to figure out how many hydrocodone pills it would take to trigger a severe OD like on the plane? It would be a lot. As for what was found in Moline: You mean pill-wise? His urine or blood wasn't tested.

Menes said:

Menes said:

Preliminary opiate calculations since we can't get the "doc" to respond. Small steps. More to come.

Posted wrong link.

1. Calculate ng/ml of hydrocodone in urine per report .

2. How much hydrocodone (in mgs) would one have to ingest to induce overdose (as in Moline). Convert and compare to ng/ml found in urine.

3. Your answer to (#1) should give you a clearer picture of (#2)

4. If (#1 and #2) are relational, what is the need for additional opiates to be ingested?

OPATU - Clinical: Opiates...ion, Urine

[Edited 4/26/18 11:23am]

Any mention of what was found in Moline?

[Edited 4/26/18 12:30pm]

Is Phaedra still in control of Prince's royalties, meaning the entity that collects the payments?