cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

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You never see pictures of Prince with Tyka, other than a few of them when they were babies.

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A lot of people are not close with their siblings. I'm not close to my Sister either. Such is life.

Yea, I remember reading somewhere that she said they disagreed on some things. Sometimes siblings just aren't that close to each other. I'm not close to my siblings either.

I wonder why she wasn't close with them. Its sad. I have a feeling that family was more troubled than we realize. its sad. Tyka is an odd one (weirder than her brother in my opinion) but she is still his sister.

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

Interesting hey

There is also an interview with Presidents EX Wife who was married to him for 12 years...

According to her President hadnt seen his uncle since Prince and Maytes Wedding...

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

Interesting hey

There is also an interview with Presidents EX Wife who was married to him for 12 years...

According to her President hadnt seen his uncle since Prince and Maytes Wedding...

Really? I haven't got that far yet. You'd think Tyka's boys would be close to him.

Menes said:

precioux said:

Menes said: Nailed it once again, Menes! “This didn’t happen suddenly...my anger has turned to sincere sympathy” “Miscalculated the effects of something far greater than willpower”

On a related note, Avicci , a renowned EDM producer, is dead. If you saw him perform, ( for hours at a time) you would never know he was an addict who was on the brink just the same. A mere 28 years old , who hid it well when the lights went on. Connection:You may not want to die , but you may be tired of living... ( that life).

Yep. I thought the same thing when I seen it on the news.

Really he did that? I imagine that Prince tired of being used by his family as a meal ticket. I mean really how did Tyka ever make a living without him. Its almost justice that they can't get their hands on it now. I suspect more people were getting these wire transfers than we realized. No wonder Appolonia is so sentimental about Prince. He tried to wire her money as well. I don't know if she is not over-romanticizing this stuff, but she obviously had some place in his heart. I suspect that it was partly becuase of Vanity's death that he was sentimental towards Brenda, Susan and Appolonia. I don't know if he tried to give Jill money but apparently he paid for some medical issue of hers a couple years before he died. Maybe that is what Mayte was referring to when she stated that had P known she had MS, he would have kicked in some money. Maybe, Prince liked giving money more when it was unexpected of him rather than expected.

PennyPurple said:

sexyisintheimagination said:

Also , someone who understands his music family...where those people currently creating things with prince that he should pay them? Did he owe for current projects? Was he looking out for associates who needed financial assistance like he was said by someone to have done for Rosie. Was his gifting his generous nature or a person planning to exit life and give away possessions. If that, why those select 3. If he knew he had no will, he slighted all excepting those 3.

I did see where he gave Tyka 10K that week, along with Susan Moonsie and Bennett.

cloveringold85 said:

I just.....I don't know what to say. I'd be lying if I said my eyes didn't well up scrolling thru those. These pics make things very real for me. Prince, the man that I touted to friends as being this beacon of clean living. He was taking a lot of pills. Some of everything as the old folks used to say.
People would tell me he's gotta be on something, and I'd be like naw man come on.

disch said:

It's hard for me to gauge Omarr's credibility. I think he means well and I appreciate that he actually volunteered info to the police in an attempt to help, but some of what he says is heresay and may not be accurate.

Me too.

It seems Omarr's sudden appearance at the police station was prompted by M2's hearsay upon hearsay statements.

There’s something fishy around the circs of his death.
Consumerism is a disgusting illness. Some things are private.
Love that man so much, I hope I never see anything.
He gave so much when he was alive. His corpse has been picked to the bones from all angles since he passed away and is a sad reflection of the fucked times we live in.
These are the things I know for sure.

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

I just saw the pics of Prince's lifeless body, laying in front of the elevator. Beyond sad and heartbreaking.

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He looks like an Angel, who just fell to sleep and went to Heaven. God rest his beautiful soul.

precioux said:

Menes said:

This one will take some time, but if someone wants to start it , I would certainly like to see where that would lead. Certainly ,we can eliminate the conspiracy junk like "murder/cancer etc. and stick to the meat of the problem which is :How well he was able to maintain an image whilst approaching a point of no return. This didn't happen suddenly. My anger has turned into sincere sympathy from what I'm seeing . This was a rather sinister road he went down, and quite obviously , miscalculated the effects of something far more greater than will power.

Nailed it once again, Menes! “This didn’t happen suddenly...my anger has turned to sincere sympathy” “Miscalculated the effects of something far greater than willpower”

In response ot Memes's post:

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Memes, you did such a fantastic job with the other thread bringing all the clues together. With this proposed thread what will be the topic? How we/everyone missed the signs? Who could have gotten the meds? Who else was involved? When did this start? How/when did it get so bad?

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I can’t download anything, the website is having issues so the only documents I’ve seen have been here on the org. That being said, I’ll start the speculation.

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in one of the interviews KJ said that the cameras have been down since 2009, P didn’t like the feeling that he was being ‘surveilled’, that leads me to believe this started before 2009 where he wouldn’t want to take the chance of anything he did being recorded on camera for security personnel or anyone else to see.

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And I am totally convinced now that Mani knew, that was what the Charlie Sheen tweet/facebook post was about… a cry to help him. However at the end of the day, all it did was get people to throw hate her way. It seems the ones who when against P’s self promoted story were vilified, when in the end, had people listened the course of events might have been altered.

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~DD55

mrwiggles said:

cloveringold85 said:

Pictures from the Dailymail (UK):

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http://www.dailymail.co.u...pound.html

I just.....I don't know what to say. I'd be lying if I said my eyes didn't well up scrolling thru those. These pics make things very real for me. Prince, the man that I touted to friends as being this beacon of clean living. He was taking a lot of pills. Some of everything as the old folks used to say. People would tell me he's gotta be on something, and I'd be like naw man come on.

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I just saw the pics on "Mediatakeout", and they were not fogged-out. It was hard for me to look at him, laying there -- he's at peace now. His clothing were just as it was described, but his clothes were not on backwards, as many reported. I started to cry, and said "Sorry, Prince".

Lovejunky said:

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

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^^^^Those were the Rx's that Kirk picked up on April 20th. They did show other Rx that were in Kirk's name, but those were from CVS.

I think in the texts that I read last night between KJ and Dr. S, that Kirk told Dr. S that what he gave P earlier wasn't working so Dr. S called some other things for P into the pharmacy.

Lovejunky said:

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

If the truth is known, the drug use probably caused the Divorce.

DD55 said:

precioux said:

Menes said: Nailed it once again, Menes! “This didn’t happen suddenly...my anger has turned to sincere sympathy” “Miscalculated the effects of something far greater than willpower”

In response ot Memes's post:

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Memes, you did such a fantastic job with the other thread bringing all the clues together. With this proposed thread what will be the topic? How we/everyone missed the signs? Who could have gotten the meds? Who else was involved? When did this start? How/when did it get so bad?

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I can’t download anything, the website is having issues so the only documents I’ve seen have been here on the org. That being said, I’ll start the speculation.

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in one of the interviews KJ said that the cameras have been down since 2009, P didn’t like the feeling that he was being ‘surveilled’, that leads me to believe this started before 2009 where he wouldn’t want to take the chance of anything he did being recorded on camera for security personnel or anyone else to see.

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And I am totally convinced now that Mani knew, that was what the Charlie Sheen tweet/facebook post was about… a cry to help him. However at the end of the day, all it did was get people to throw hate her way. It seems the ones who when against P’s self promoted story were vilified, when in the end, had people listened the course of events might have been altered.

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~DD55

DD55 said:

precioux said:

Menes said: Nailed it once again, Menes! “This didn’t happen suddenly...my anger has turned to sincere sympathy” “Miscalculated the effects of something far greater than willpower”

In response ot Memes's post:

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Memes, you did such a fantastic job with the other thread bringing all the clues together. With this proposed thread what will be the topic? How we/everyone missed the signs? Who could have gotten the meds? Who else was involved? When did this start? How/when did it get so bad?

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I can’t download anything, the website is having issues so the only documents I’ve seen have been here on the org. That being said, I’ll start the speculation.

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in one of the interviews KJ said that the cameras have been down since 2009, P didn’t like the feeling that he was being ‘surveilled’, that leads me to believe this started before 2009 where he wouldn’t want to take the chance of anything he did being recorded on camera for security personnel or anyone else to see.

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And I am totally convinced now that Mani knew, that was what the Charlie Sheen tweet/facebook post was about… a cry to help him. However at the end of the day, all it did was get people to throw hate her way. It seems the ones who when against P’s self promoted story were vilified, when in the end, had people listened the course of events might have been altered.

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~DD55

I agree, DD, good to see you back.

Did they list everyone P had given a large sum of money to?
I appreciate you guys sharing the info from the files..
I am still wondering if they listed his landline phone records? Or any of his emails?

cloveringold85 said:

Look I saw someone already say o Connor is out to get Prince.
But her claims can be tracked. She stated that other women would come forward
For his abuse after using drugs.

I know she has stated mental health issues...I'm waiting to see if Wendy speaks out one way or the other for this supposed beating and hospitalization. There would be records of it somewhere. will Wendy protect the money making interests of the revolution tour and or the estate pays her off...waiting to see if others come forward.
Will Wendy become part of me too

those bottles in his own name on 4/20...they are all kinds of inconsistencies

Lovejunky said:

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

Correct.

Omarr might have been concerned but I get the impression of a relative outsider looking in and trying to find someone to blame. The fact that he brought up Michael Jackson having worked with Jill before he died as something to worry about is kind of ridiculous. Prince probably learned about her through her work with MJ.

As for Omarr's suspenstion that Kirk was full of shit and trying to disassociate himself from P because he was up to something. I think, from reading other things Kirk said in those papers, that all Kirk was saying was that he wished P had been more open with him, less of a boss and casual friend and more of a confident. Its a reasonable thing to say but probably taken out of context. Kirk worked for P for 30 years but not constantly. He came on as manager after 2009 after the security cameras were already turned off. He had his own life, responsibilities, bands etc. Yes, he was paid and taken care of by P (so I can't deny that that might influence some of his decisions) It doesn't mean there wasn't fondness or affection (according to others, Prince was fond of his kids and did some family stuff with him) but their relationship was at Prince's own very private terms and I think he was trying to respect his privacy. I guess its a form of enabling, but I don't get the sense of the type of enabling that Whitney Houston got..I really don't think he got P the counterfit stuff for a number of reasons. Why get Oxycodone or other pills in his name if he was getting him counterfit stuff---why create a paper trail that could incriminate him? He had time to get rid of the pills in his name before the cops came after P was found. He apparently did not do so. His reported statement in Moline (about wondering if P was sneaking drugs again) seemed to indicate that Prince sneaking drugs was an off and on again thing and that he had come out alright in the past. He knew it was worse this time but I don't think he thought P was doing anything as strong as Fentanly and figured the worse that could happen that night would be P sneaking some vicodin and going to sleep. He probably figured the scare in Molene (as well as the withdrawal medicine and P's promise to not make the mistake of mixing drugs) would help him get through the night. I don't think he knew how horrible those drugs were. I think he thought he had time to figure out what to do and still respect his privacy especially since P was close to getting treatment.. KJ was juggling two balls at the same time (privacy and preservation of a life). Maybe he should have said screw the "privacy" but it was tough call especially if P had survived other times. There is a quality of life issue here as well. Who would have the heart to take away Prince's ability to perform and his dignity? I think Judith might have been in the same boat as well.

As for the shredding of documents etc and side conversations, it might have been that they didn't want his personal stuff being out there. Another thought Phaedra wwas connected to black lives matter I beleive; maybe they didn't want cops reading some of that stuff. I do however think Mekure is the one who should be looked at a bit more. She was the most evasive of the group and most self protective.

Also interesting to me is that (how she got Prince as a hubby aside) the villianized Manuela's conversation with Larry Graham to me might have indicated why she turned on the JW's and Larry and what might (along with P's possible adultery) led to their divorce. I know she sued for more money in the divorce and has a greedy side but I never thought it was completely unreasonable compared to other rock star ex's. She is no Heather Mills (Paul McCartney's extremely greedy ex who wanted half of everything.) LG's response to her was deeply insensitive (when she brought up suspicions of drugs and then he said that she was not a doctor and shouldn't diagnose.) Those lyrics in the song Love take on more relevance now. Its funny that evidently P turned on LG as well because he thought he was mooching.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

disch said:

It's hard for me to gauge Omarr's credibility. I think he means well and I appreciate that he actually volunteered info to the police in an attempt to help, but some of what he says is heresay and may not be accurate.

Me too.

It seems Omarr's sudden appearance at the police station was prompted by M2's hearsay upon hearsay statements.

These are not opiods though and there aint that many in the bottles.

Mumio said:

Lovejunky said:

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

Correct.

Purplebflogirl said:

I asked all those same questions too.

Drug use was factor in divorce from mani.

PennyPurple said:

If the truth is known, the drug use probably caused the Divorce.

DD55 said:

In response ot Memes's post:

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Memes, you did such a fantastic job with the other thread bringing all the clues together. With this proposed thread what will be the topic? How we/everyone missed the signs? Who could have gotten the meds? Who else was involved? When did this start? How/when did it get so bad?

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I can’t download anything, the website is having issues so the only documents I’ve seen have been here on the org. That being said, I’ll start the speculation.

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in one of the interviews KJ said that the cameras have been down since 2009, P didn’t like the feeling that he was being ‘surveilled’, that leads me to believe this started before 2009 where he wouldn’t want to take the chance of anything he did being recorded on camera for security personnel or anyone else to see.

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And I am totally convinced now that Mani knew, that was what the Charlie Sheen tweet/facebook post was about… a cry to help him. However at the end of the day, all it did was get people to throw hate her way. It seems the ones who when against P’s self promoted story were vilified, when in the end, had people listened the course of events might have been altered.

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~DD55

so true...if you try to 'help' an addict WHO DOESN'T WANT TO GET CLEAN , no matter how close or loving the relationship...you will be perceived as a 'nag', a hater or disloyal, etc. Addicts are the MASTERS of manipulation, rationalization and lying.They have a million excuses for doing what they're doing no matter who gets hurt as the tragedy plays out...and it only ends one way...there is no taming the beast and dialing it back just a little.

cloveringold85 said:

Lovejunky said:

and what is this?????

When we have been told that all prescriptions were made out in Kirks Name to Protect Princes Privacy ???

Schulenberg admitted to this in his statement...

so how come we are seeing PRINCE ROGERS NELSON on these bottles???

ANd that all the pills found in Paisley Park were NOT in their original bottles rather they were in Advil and vitamin bottles?????

Once again things dont add up....

[Edited 4/20/18 17:29pm]

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^^^^Those were the Rx's that Kirk picked up on April 20th. They did show other Rx that were in Kirk's name, but those were from CVS.

Hmm ... Clonidine is used to treat high blood pressure. Certain formulas can alo treat ADHD and cancer pain. The other two scripts are for anxiety. These must have been prescribed by Dr. S but in P's name ... however Dr. S illegally prescribed a script for oxycodone on 4/14 in KJ's name. P's toxicology report did show that diazepam, lidocaine and hydrocodon were found in his system.

sexyisintheimagination said:

Purplebflogirl said:

Did they list everyone P had given a large sum of money to? I appreciate you guys sharing the info from the files.. I am still wondering if they listed his landline phone records? Or any of his emails?

I asked all those same questions too. Drug use was factor in divorce from mani.

Stop.

We dont know that was the reason for the divorce.

She would have said something years ago if Prince beat her up. Wendy was way out of his circle at times. There is no reason to believe she couldn't have said something then. Plus, what better way to get attention for oneself than to say years ago that you contributed to his music and his thank you was to beat you up. I doubt she will say anything at all now.. Prince barely said anything in reference to Sinead's earlier rants because I believe most people realize that Sinead is sick. I doubt she will even read half this shit in these files because she knows how he died and probably doesn't want to come off like she is attacking women like Sinead.

sexyisintheimagination said:

cloveringold85 said:

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^^^^Those were the Rx's that Kirk picked up on April 20th. They did show other Rx that were in Kirk's name, but those were from CVS.

Look I saw someone already say o Connor is out to get Prince. But her claims can be tracked. She stated that other women would come forward For his abuse after using drugs. I know she has stated mental health issues...I'm waiting to see if Wendy speaks out one way or the other for this supposed beating and hospitalization. There would be records of it somewhere. will Wendy protect the money making interests of the revolution tour and or the estate pays her off...waiting to see if others come forward. Will Wendy become part of me too those bottles in his own name on 4/20...they are all kinds of inconsistencies

[Edited 4/20/18 18:00pm]

[Edited 4/20/18 18:01pm]

From friends who've worked in the music industry for years, I heard that she was the one throwing the punches, not the other way round.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It was a FACTOR from said tweets not all of it.
That's between those two.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

sexyisintheimagination said:

Purplebflogirl said: I asked all those same questions too. Drug use was factor in divorce from mani.

Stop.

We dont know that was the reason for the divorce.

iSaid: you're right, we don't know the reason, but why do I have this feeling that we will know almost everything about that relationship within 6 months...? hummmm, I'll bet she is writing or has already written a book and it'll hit the shelves before Thanksgiving. LOL.

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~DD55

DD55 said:

Mani shouldn't have posted that on FB, mind your own business and focus on your new husband