HatrinaHaterwitz said:

precioux said:

No, KJ and Tyka are no computer geniuses. That being said, I’m curious to know what KJ & Phedera (?) were doing secretly shredding papers? (Or was it JW?).. according to Omarr, there was talk about what to tell the authorities, then KJ motioned to go behind closed doors to talk and shredding of papers ensued. I don’t have the download and am trying to piecemeal things that ISLIJAG posted.... I really wish someone would start a new thread with the main interviews so we can see and discuss....ISLIJAG??...Menes??? disch said:

I think that's overstated as an obstacle to his death investigation. I think the biggest issue with not taking that laptop right away was that they then had to fly in forensic specialist to examine the hard drive, which per the warrants they did (along with accessing his email records from google). Thought they probably would have had a forensic examination even if they took the computer right way,.

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I'm pretty confident that no one at paisley part in the couple days following his death had the computer expertise to delete things in a way that a forensic specialist couldn't retrieve. I don't think Kirk, Tyka, etc were secret computer geniuses.

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Omarr may be borderline illiterate as his scribble scrabble notes indicate as much.

Compiling some notes for comparative timelines/events, and though ambiguous , is starting to make more sense. There's plenty.

Sidenote* If Dr. Schulenberg paid the reported fine(30k?), that may explain the "no violations "status on the Minnesota Medical Board. Not sure why or when the family plans to pursue him and any entity that may have had knowledge of that. That would be a priority for me especially if Dr. S had knowledge or thoughts concerning Prince's addiction.

disch said:

yeah i was wondering about that alleged will smith convo. The documents reveal his last emails, but I don't know if they talked about phone calls. Personally, I'm skeptical they talked that night. So many people seemed to overstate their relationships with him.

sexyisintheimagination said:

disch said:

yeah the nature of their relationship is a little hazy (but honestly, this was prince. When it came to the exact status of the women around him, there was often a sort of haziness). She also said that she normally stayed at the chanhassen inn (or whatever it's called) when she was in town. Now, even in romantic relationships some people may like their space, but that seemed a little unusual.

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Also the police spent a lot of time asking her "which side of the bed" he slept on. I have no idea why that was such an important topic, but it was something they focused on for a while. She seemed to have a hard time answering that (she said she had trouble with the idea of left/right). Perhaps it was related to the opioid pill they found in the bed? Maybe trying to guess if it was on Prince's side or Judith's side, if she had a side? I have no idea if that was their reason, that's just a guess.

They ask questions about life to study body language...if they were romantic a sleeping arrangement should come from the habit side of brain like a knee jerk reaction. They watch for where the eyes go, do they have to think it first to create it. Indeed, Tyka has said something, insensitive and attention seeking, she should just address it now in light of the disrespectful release of his privacy that is hurting fams and his other sister. does not compute...not present for Prince. Is there a phone log for the landline call, will smith-did he call p or p call him. Proof that a phone call happened?

Pictures from the Dailymail (UK):

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http://www.dailymail.co.u...pound.html

Menes said:

precioux said:

No, KJ and Tyka are no computer geniuses. That being said, I’m curious to know what KJ & Phedera (?) were doing secretly shredding papers? (Or was it JW?).. according to Omarr, there was talk about what to tell the authorities, then KJ motioned to go behind closed doors to talk and shredding of papers ensued. I don’t have the download and am trying to piecemeal things that ISLIJAG posted.... I really wish someone would start a new thread with the main interviews so we can see and discuss....ISLIJAG??...Menes??? disch said:

Omarr may be borderline illiterate as his scribble scrabble notes indicate as much.

Compiling some notes for comparative timelines/events, and though ambiguous , is starting to make more sense. There's plenty.

Sidenote* If Dr. Schulenberg paid the reported fine(30k?), that may explain the "no violations "status on the Minnesota Medical Board. Not sure why or when the family plans to pursue him and any entity that may have had knowledge of that. That would be a priority for me especially if Dr. S had knowledge or thoughts concerning Prince's addiction.

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Also, Dr. Schulenberg suggested that he voluntarily paid the fine, which is incorrect. From what I read, he was obligated to pay the fine of 30K. No if's and or butts about it. Almost like he has the attitude "hey, I'm doing a good thing", but nah.....not really. Just following the law.

Just throwing this out there. I've been watching that show on A&E, "The first 48", with Marcia Clark, the famous prosecutor from the OJ trial......and, I would love for her to do a piece on the Prince Death Investigation. Oh boy!!

Menes said:

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said:

Is it your feeling that Kirk really didn't know he was using drugs, or just acting like he didn't know and staying tight lipped.

Apologies. I know I'm interrupting your conversation with Disch. I believe he had to have known. Why the secret Dr correspondence/phone calls and why the prescriptions in his name? Someone in the Prince circle was either getting or helping him get the counterfeit pills (not knowing they were cut with fetinyl). I don't believe there was a conspiracy to kill Prince, or that Prince committed suicide or that he had a fatal illness such as cancer. I believe he had a dependency on pain killers that simply got away from him. And by procuring non-prescription "prescription" pills off the street, he rolled the dice with his own life by not knowing what may or may not be in those pills. It's a sad, sucky situation. [Edited 4/20/18 11:02am]

The more I read, I think you are right. there was no underlying illness, people said he was complaining about his arm and hands hurting him. Nothing about hip pain.

On another note, I just got thru reading Judith's interview, the detective asked Judith if anyone has reached out to her to tell her to keep quiet about anything and her response was SHEILA. Judith said Sheila was trying to be protective of her and told her, you know you can't say anything right. Sheila also told her if she needed a lawyer, if anyone comes out, we can help you with that. The detective asked JH if anyone else has tried to sway her and she said no, only Sheila.

OK. So now I'm really pissed. Sheila too was 1 who was trying to keep things quiet. Well you know what? F Sheila. She's giving these tribute concerts, got a tat, selling things with the P Symbol and making money $$$ off of him STILL. And she told Judith to keep it quiet. OMFG. When as Prince fans are we going to stop supporting these enablers? WHEN?

I just noticed something about this picture from another thread:



In the third picture, there was a phone right next to Prince's bed. So how and WHY the fuck is it that he died alone in that elevator?

jtfolden said:

kmama07 said:

SquirrelMeat said: Carver County Sheriff website

Can anyone access and download right now? I got files 1, 3, 4 last night but today cant connect to get 2 and 5. :-/

I got all files but #4 and can't connect to get it either. Hopefully they didn't take it down.

camilleisfunky said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Seeing Prince walking into Dr. Schulenberg's office is proof that he wanted to get help and get off the pills. He did not seem "agitated" at all, from what many of us can tell. Also, did you notice Prince was not walking with a "cane", or limping? He seemed to be walking fine, imo.

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My heads a mess right now, but I don't think Prince was ever prescribed Vicodin.

I mean, he even agreed to the blood and urine tests...so sad...

Do you know why he had a bump on his wrist under the blue tape? it seems to me that there is a bump...

It's an electrode. The medics put it there and other places to see the heart line.

PennyPurple said:

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said: Apologies. I know I'm interrupting your conversation with Disch. I believe he had to have known. Why the secret Dr correspondence/phone calls and why the prescriptions in his name? Someone in the Prince circle was either getting or helping him get the counterfeit pills (not knowing they were cut with fetinyl). I don't believe there was a conspiracy to kill Prince, or that Prince committed suicide or that he had a fatal illness such as cancer. I believe he had a dependency on pain killers that simply got away from him. And by procuring non-prescription "prescription" pills off the street, he rolled the dice with his own life by not knowing what may or may not be in those pills. It's a sad, sucky situation. [Edited 4/20/18 11:02am]

The more I read, I think you are right. there was no underlying illness, people said he was complaining about his arm and hands hurting him. Nothing about hip pain.

On another note, I just got thru reading Judith's interview, the detective asked Judith if anyone has reached out to her to tell her to keep quiet about anything and her response was SHEILA. Judith said Sheila was trying to be protective of her and told her, you know you can't say anything right. Sheila also told her if she needed a lawyer, if anyone comes out, we can help you with that. The detective asked JH if anyone else has tried to sway her and she said no, only Sheila.

OK. So now I'm really pissed. Sheila too was 1 who was trying to keep things quiet. Well you know what? F Sheila. She's giving these tribute concerts, got a tat, selling things with the P Symbol and making money $$$ off of him STILL. And she told Judith to keep it quiet. OMFG. When as Prince fans are we going to stop supporting these enablers? WHEN?

I stopped on April 21, 2016!

PennyPurple said:

kmama07 said:

PennyPurple said: Apologies. I know I'm interrupting your conversation with Disch. I believe he had to have known. Why the secret Dr correspondence/phone calls and why the prescriptions in his name? Someone in the Prince circle was either getting or helping him get the counterfeit pills (not knowing they were cut with fetinyl). I don't believe there was a conspiracy to kill Prince, or that Prince committed suicide or that he had a fatal illness such as cancer. I believe he had a dependency on pain killers that simply got away from him. And by procuring non-prescription "prescription" pills off the street, he rolled the dice with his own life by not knowing what may or may not be in those pills. It's a sad, sucky situation. [Edited 4/20/18 11:02am]

The more I read, I think you are right. there was no underlying illness, people said he was complaining about his arm and hands hurting him. Nothing about hip pain.

On another note, I just got thru reading Judith's interview, the detective asked Judith if anyone has reached out to her to tell her to keep quiet about anything and her response was SHEILA. Judith said Sheila was trying to be protective of her and told her, you know you can't say anything right. Sheila also told her if she needed a lawyer, if anyone comes out, we can help you with that. The detective asked JH if anyone else has tried to sway her and she said no, only Sheila.

OK. So now I'm really pissed. Sheila too was 1 who was trying to keep things quiet. Well you know what? F Sheila. She's giving these tribute concerts, got a tat, selling things with the P Symbol and making money $$$ off of him STILL. And she told Judith to keep it quiet. OMFG. When as Prince fans are we going to stop supporting these enablers? WHEN?

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Just wanted to add (and you may have read it); the attorney stated that on April 15th, Dr. Schulenberg gave a Rx for 15-Percocet pills for "back pain". Apparently, Prince said he had hurt his back moving equipment around......not sure why he would be doing that....

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Yea, I agree on Sheila......she is starting to look shady to a lot of people. Maybe she was trying to protect JH, in case she talked too much to the press?

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I can't see the docs because they are having tech problems.......it might be a while.

Fuck this, I'm out. Poor Prince.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I just noticed something about this picture from another thread:



In the third picture, there was a phone right next to Prince's bed. So how and WHY the fuck is it that he died alone in that elevator?

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It may be that Prince never made it up to his room at all that night.

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I know this is trivial right now, but why didn't Prince have a nightstand next to his bed?

precioux said:

Menes said:

Omarr may be borderline illiterate as his scribble scrabble notes indicate as much.

Compiling some notes for comparative timelines/events, and though ambiguous , is starting to make more sense. There's plenty.

Sidenote* If Dr. Schulenberg paid the reported fine(30k?), that may explain the "no violations "status on the Minnesota Medical Board. Not sure why or when the family plans to pursue him and any entity that may have had knowledge of that. That would be a priority for me especially if Dr. S had knowledge or thoughts concerning Prince's addiction.

Forgive me...I don’t keep up with Omarr whatsoever, or the estate business for that matter. I only read what was posted from the zip files in regards to his interviews. Agreed on your stance on Dr. S Thoughts on starting another thread similar to the one you started about the warrants? (Re:Discussions regarding main interviews from the zip files) [Edited 4/20/18 16:02pm]

This one will take some time, but if someone wants to start it , I would certainly like to see where that would lead. Certainly ,we can eliminate the conspiracy junk like "murder/cancer etc. and stick to the meat of the problem which is :How well he was able to maintain an image whilst approaching a point of no return. This didn't happen suddenly. My anger has turned into sincere sympathy from what I'm seeing . This was a rather sinister road he went down, and quite obviously , miscalculated the effects of something far more greater than will power.

PennyPurple said:

jtfolden said:

Can anyone access and download right now? I got files 1, 3, 4 last night but today cant connect to get 2 and 5. :-/

I got all files but #4 and can't connect to get it either. Hopefully they didn't take it down.

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Lucky you!! I can't get any!!

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It's not even working anymore.

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I wanna know, why didn't they put them in smaller files, instead of one big one????

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What a cluster F!!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PennyPurple said:

The more I read, I think you are right. there was no underlying illness, people said he was complaining about his arm and hands hurting him. Nothing about hip pain.

On another note, I just got thru reading Judith's interview, the detective asked Judith if anyone has reached out to her to tell her to keep quiet about anything and her response was SHEILA. Judith said Sheila was trying to be protective of her and told her, you know you can't say anything right. Sheila also told her if she needed a lawyer, if anyone comes out, we can help you with that. The detective asked JH if anyone else has tried to sway her and she said no, only Sheila.

OK. So now I'm really pissed. Sheila too was 1 who was trying to keep things quiet. Well you know what? F Sheila. She's giving these tribute concerts, got a tat, selling things with the P Symbol and making money $$$ off of him STILL. And she told Judith to keep it quiet. OMFG. When as Prince fans are we going to stop supporting these enablers? WHEN?

I stopped on April 21, 2016!

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Yea, and you can add Sinead to that shit list too!! Shame on her for talking such trash about Prince!!

dandan said:

Fuck this, I'm out. Poor Prince.

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We all feel that way right now.

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Menes said:

AmericaSlays said:

rap said:

Why in god's name is Kirk Johnson allowed to be involved with the running of Paisley Park when it's been established he was seen shredding documents, and was uncooperative with investigators????

Does he stll live in the house that Prince paid for?

In fairness, it wasn't established, only alleged. And if the DA felt there was enough evidence to support a case against him, he would've prosecuted. Evidently, they concluded there was insufficient evidence. That doesn't speak to Kirk's innocence or guilt. I have no idea about the house or his level of cooperation.

Wouldn't shredding documents needed for an investiagtion be obstruction of justice?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

This whole protecting Prince's privacy and personal information at all costs bullshit, pisses me off, the more and more I see it being used as some fucked up justification, for the actions and/or in-actions of ineptitude by those that SHOULD have done better by Prince! Because damn it...beyond any doubt...as of yesterday they FAILED Prince!!! And failed him fucking miserably!!! So to me from this day forward, the "secrecy" is no longer about protecting Prince's privacy. It's self preservation.

Yep and reading these documents, pisses me off. Sheila of all people. She didn't have his best interests at heart. I don't care what anyone says. All he is to her is a money making machine, and as of right now I will NOT support any of these associates.

precioux said:

Menes said:

This one will take some time, but if someone wants to start it , I would certainly like to see where that would lead. Certainly ,we can eliminate the conspiracy junk like "murder/cancer etc. and stick to the meat of the problem which is :How well he was able to maintain an image whilst approaching a point of no return. This didn't happen suddenly. My anger has turned into sincere sympathy from what I'm seeing . This was a rather sinister road he went down, and quite obviously , miscalculated the effects of something far more greater than will power.

Nailed it once again, Menes! “This didn’t happen suddenly...my anger has turned to sincere sympathy” “Miscalculated the effects of something far greater than willpower”

On a related note, Avicci , a renowned EDM producer, is dead. If you saw him perform, ( for hours at a time) you would never know he was an addict who was on the brink just the same. A mere 28 years old , who hid it well when the lights went on. Connection:You may not want to die , but you may be tired of living... ( that life).

206Michelle said:

AmericaSlays said:

In fairness, it wasn't established, only alleged. And if the DA felt there was enough evidence to support a case against him, he would've prosecuted. Evidently, they concluded there was insufficient evidence. That doesn't speak to Kirk's innocence or guilt. I have no idea about the house or his level of cooperation.

Wouldn't shredding documents needed for an investiagtion be obstruction of justice?

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Shredding documents and putting a laptop (which could contain important info) in a locked room, is shady AF!!

disch said:

In one of the interviews (I can't remember which one) it was alluded to that Tyka wasn't around much. I honestly don't think, based on what we know, that they were exactly buddy-buddy. Yes, she worked for him a little (in some pretty nominal way) and he paid for her house, but there's not a sense that she as a regular presence in his personal life. Her name didn't really come up in the interviews (although she did tell Judith at the memorial that thing about "knowing for 2 years" that he was going to die. There's no followup on that in the Judith interview; I assume the police interviewed Tyka about that? I haven't come across a transcript of a Tyka interview but maybe it's in there!)

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cloveringold85 said:

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I keep wondering why Tyka wasn't with Prince when he went to see Dr. Shulenberg? Furthermore, I wonder if Tyka really knew what was going on with her brother at all.

Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

In one of the interviews (I can't remember which one) it was alluded to that Tyka wasn't around much. I honestly don't think, based on what we know, that they were exactly buddy-buddy. Yes, she worked for him a little (in some pretty nominal way) and he paid for her house, but there's not a sense that she as a regular presence in his personal life. Her name didn't really come up in the interviews (although she did tell Judith at the memorial that thing about "knowing for 2 years" that he was going to die. There's no followup on that in the Judith interview; I assume the police interviewed Tyka about that? I haven't come across a transcript of a Tyka interview but maybe it's in there!)

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Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

Interesting hey

There is also an interview with Presidents EX Wife who was married to him for 12 years...

According to her President hadnt seen his uncle since Prince and Maytes Wedding...

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

In one of the interviews (I can't remember which one) it was alluded to that Tyka wasn't around much. I honestly don't think, based on what we know, that they were exactly buddy-buddy. Yes, she worked for him a little (in some pretty nominal way) and he paid for her house, but there's not a sense that she as a regular presence in his personal life. Her name didn't really come up in the interviews (although she did tell Judith at the memorial that thing about "knowing for 2 years" that he was going to die. There's no followup on that in the Judith interview; I assume the police interviewed Tyka about that? I haven't come across a transcript of a Tyka interview but maybe it's in there!)

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Josh & Hannah's interview they said they were around for about 4 years and only seen Tyka 2 times. They said he didn't talk about his family.

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You never see pictures of Prince with Tyka, other than a few of them when they were babies.

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A lot of people are not close with their siblings. I'm not close to my Sister either. Such is life.

sexyisintheimagination said:

Also , someone who understands his music family...where those people currently creating things with prince that he should pay them? Did he owe for current projects? Was he looking out for associates who needed financial assistance like he was said by someone to have done for Rosie. Was his gifting his generous nature or a person planning to exit life and give away possessions. If that, why those select 3. If he knew he had no will, he slighted all excepting those 3.

I did see where he gave Tyka 10K that week, along with Susan Moonsie and Bennett.