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I read in another report that while on the way to Tyka's house, they had been told Tyka had been reached by phone. [Edited 4/21/18 7:57am] | |
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Graciegirl719 said: So, I found this video on the internet of Sinead O'Connor talking about Prince. What is going on? She seems to be implying that he abused illicit drugs. Idk what to make of it, very strange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh0e_rKjihk
Its not strange, its sinead being a bit out of her mind in 2016 and the Daily Mail making bank. Its not an avenue worth pursuing if you're looking for truth, she has enough demons of her own. | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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Oh ok. A little better then. | |
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Rebeljuice said: Just read the police interviews with KJ and JH. Points I found interesting: Rebeljuice, all of your points make sense to me. I believe that in the press conference from 04/19/18, Carver county Attorney Mark Metz mentions that investigators found other pills at PP that tested positive for fentanyl. The video of the press conference that I watched was on YouTube, from CBS News and was 17+ minutes long. I will give the link if I find it. Edit: Name of aforementioned video is “Prosecutor: Evidence shows Prince thought he was taking Vicodin, not fentanyl”. [Edited 4/21/18 8:35am] Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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gerson said: Mail from people to Prince's mail address. What would the name in the "to" field say? J. R. .... ?
Is is J R Welton or J R Hill? Just a guess. [Edited 4/21/18 8:32am] Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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Julia Ramaden (discussed on previous page) | |
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He shouldn't have been left alone. I'm guessing the pills he got from the doc weren't working - yes, he would notice this right away, it doesn't take much time for these pills to work. Perhaps KJ was afraid he would take too many so he didn't leave them? Not sure wht he didn't try the other pills Dr S prescribed. I think Prince was already way deeper into the addiction/withdrawl battle than anyone realized except himself perhaps. He knew what was working for him and it wasn't straight up Percocet. That's why all the other pills. He wanted to make sure he always had something on hand that would work when he needed it. Withdrawl is agonizing. This can't be expressed enough. Addicts will do anything to avoid it. It is debillitating. Prince did not want to find himself in that predicament. I need to do some more research before I speak in error, but i thought i read once that Prince preferred a painkiller that waz taksn off the market. He probably found an illicit source for those pills. He could have had that stash of tainted pills for a long time if he had been able to procure a large supply. But he also could have had a reliable source for that particular pill and unfortunately got a bad batch recently. But its all speculation. I have been going around and around in circles trying to figure out how or why he was getting pills off the street when he didn't have to. I get the privacy thing. But i also think they were better, or worked better, for him. I think he was humoring KJ somewhat by going to the legit doctor. I think he knew in his heart by that point that he had a serious problem, those close to him were starting to see it and coming down on him, it was becoming unmanagable. I think he knew he was going away that next day to get help and he wanted to feel good one last time so he took the "good pills". I don't believe he knew he was taking fentanyl, and maybe it was just in the last week. But i wonder if he had been taking them unknowingly for longer. It would explain the decline. It would explain the turn downward people saw in him. Fentanyl is so dangerous because the high is fast and the high is good. But its short. As soon as the user gets off they are looking for the next high. Someone must have been helping him get the tainted pills. I doubt any of the players involved knew they were tainted tho. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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Lovejunky said:
a Replica of some Art WOrk in Minni
Obviously some one was playing around funny buggers the white stuff is meant to be snow
[Edited 4/21/18 1:39am] That is one hell of a leap to say that's meant to be fucking snow. It's all over the camera and everything. The white powder has got nothing to do with what is sat on the table. That's like saying 'it's just a Nikon camera, no need to worry'. The white powder is what we're fucking curious about, not his replica sculpture!! I got two sides... and they're both friends. | |
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Rebeljuice said: . . . . . . . . . . . One poison pill for him, one poison pill for her- apparently not Judith. | |
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luv4u said:
The NY Times has some documents from the Carver Co. investigation into Prince’s death here: https://assets.documentcl...Files1.pdf Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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I'm sure there will be something in the Carver County Investigation files that will explain the powder. I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again... | |
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Lovejunky said:
Saw that too....I dont know any other Willow...
Maybe she messaged him on behalf of her Dad?
...and what is the reason for some names completely blacked out, some partially and some not at all? | |
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jdcxc said: Princely Tidbit in Judith Hill’s interview- She stating that following the Narcon Airplane incident, he would tease her that he was “really sleeping.” Even amidst what he was going through he still found humor. It’s so sad someone couldn’t/didn’t intervene in his struggles...until it was too late. Cognitively, he was there to the very end. It’s clear from watching the P&M shows that he was still very mentally sharp. Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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I tihnk it's safe to say that re the shorter names, their email addresses would be partially visible - fully blacked out would be full email addresses. | |
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jjam said:
I tihnk it's safe to say that re the shorter names, their email addresses would be partially visible - fully blacked out would be full email addresses. Of course...I hadn't even thought of that. Thanks | |
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here is judith Hills account of the flight to moline
RD: Robert Dugdale, Attorney Unk: Jeff Voller, DEA Agent Unk: Marc Lombardi, DEA Agent CN: Our, our plans are not to discuss what we talk with you directly with anyone else just like we've, we've talked to numerous people and we're not going to discuss specifically what was said in our conversations with other people, so I hope you feel comfortable talking to us and again I'm glad that you reached out to us um I think it's impo~ant, our condolences .. I know you've lost a friend and a co-worker and a colleague um with that um let.let's just start with just some basic, basic stuff that we always start with in interviews, just if you could ah spell your name for us. ( J-U-D-1-T-H H-1-L-L. CN: Okay do you have a middle name Judith? JH: Glory. CN: Okay and what's your date of birth? JH: CN: Okay how about a mailing address? JH: Um about.. (_ Zoom
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( JH: Ah CN: Okay how about a phone number. JH: CN: Okay. Unk: Just to let you know that this .. we don't release this information, this is just to make sure if we have to subpoena you for some reason, the U.S. Attorney would be able to locate you. ( JH: Okay. RD: That's right, and you, and you can tell them, she's represented by counsel.. Unk: Yes, right, they know that. RD: .. their communication should come through me, not through her. Unk: Right, right, right. RD: Okay. CN: Um I think to start with, if it's okay with you, you guys kind of reached out with us ah we have numerous questions we'd like to ask but is there ah a specific reason or what, what would you like to tell us and we'll kind of go from there, does that work for you? JH: Oh .. CN: How about we, how about we start with .. and I'll, I'll make it a little bit easier than that open blanket, how about we first talk about um the trip to Atlanta. JH: Okay. CN: Can you start with um, um was that planned months in advance, weeks in advance? JH: No it was the night, overnight. CN: When was it planned, when did you know that you were traveling? JH: Um I spoke with him the night before and we didn't.. I had no plans of going to Atlanta and then the next morning he said hey, do you want to go to Atlanta with me today to see my show. CN: Okay so that, so .. so that would have been the next morning, would have been the 13th or the 14th of April? JH: Oh it was um, it was um, what was the day before? I didn't have much time, it was like that happened and then my flight was like the next day or something like that. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, LMM Page 2 DOB:tliiiilllt
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( CN: Okay, okay and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to pin you down .. JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN: .. to a specific date or whatever, just as best as you can .. JH: Yes I think it was the next day was the show. Unk: And Judith where are you when you, you first.. JH: Um LA CN: Okay so .. Unk: Okay so you're in LA and you get this invitation to go .. CN: Yep. Unk: _.. to go to it, okay. CN: So, so your trip is from LA to, to Atlanta? JH: Minneapolis. Unk: Oh you're .. okay. CN: go? Oh, to Minneapolis, okay, okay and then when you got to Minneapolis, where did you JH: I checked in to the Country Inn, it's a hotel like down the road from Paisley Park. CN: Okay, okay and then ah, that was, was that on the day that you guys traveled to Atlanta or was that the day before? ( JH: It was the night before. CN: The night before, so probably I think on the 13th. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay then when did you first see ah Prince, Mr. Nelson? JH: We got a late start that day so um he picked me up at the hotel noon or oneish. CN: Okay. JH: Maybe even later, two? CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB· LMM Page 3 Zoom
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( JH: Late afternoon. CN: Okay and this is the day before? JH: This is the day of the show. CN: The day of the show, okay .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. okay and who was with him when he picked you up? JH: Um just the driver and it was just me and him. CN: Okay, do you know his driver? JH: Was it Kim? I think it was Kim that time. She usually does it, yeah I think Kim, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure but it was Kim but it was um usually Kim does the driving. CN: Okay. JH: Sometimes there's someone else. CN: Okay. JH: But I think it was Kim that time. Unk: What were they, what were they driving that day? JH: Ah like an S .. um an SUV, black. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay and do you know Kim's last name? JH: No I don't. CN: Okay how, how would' you describe Kim? JH: Oh she's really bubbly .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's always laughing .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's a very happy person, very fun. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:._ LMM Page4
CN: White person? Black person? Asian person? JH: Yeah white. CN: White person. JH: Middle, middle aged like. CN: Okay, okay, okay so that's the night, that's .. thal's the the driver and where do you guys go from there? JH: Yeah it was Kim. CN: Okay, okay. JH: Um we go to the airport. 14th and Prince is there and just CN: Okay and Kim drops you off and she's on her way and what ah what were the flight arrangements at the airport? JH: Oh you mean like .. CN: Meaning what did you guys fly, what when you got there. JH: Oh it was like a small jet .. CN: Okay. JH: .. we usually fly privately .. CN: Yep. JH: .. so a small jet, we just came in. CN: Okay have, have you flown with Prince numerous times? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and is it, is ii usually the same, the same jet do you know or .. JH: Um similar, it's always a.. it's not like his personal jet.. CN: Yep. JH: .. so sometimes ii changes. CN: Yeah, he uses a company .. JH: Yeah. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: LMM Page 5
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( CN: Okay, okay and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to pin you down .. JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN: .. to a specific date or whatever, just as best as you can .. JH: Yes I think it was the next day was the show. Unk: And Judith where are you when you, you first.. JH: Um LA CN: Okay so .. Unk: Okay so you're in LA and you get this invitation to go .. CN: Yep. Unk: _.. to go to it, okay. CN: So, so your trip is from LA to, to Atlanta? JH: Minneapolis. Unk: Oh you're .. okay. CN: go? Oh, to Minneapolis, okay, okay and then when you got to Minneapolis, where did you JH: I checked in to the Country Inn, it's a hotel like down the road from Paisley Park. CN: Okay, okay and then ah, that was, was that on the day that you guys traveled to Atlanta or was that the day before? ( JH: It was the night before. CN: The night before, so probably I think on the 13th. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay then when did you first see ah Prince, Mr. Nelson? JH: We got a late start that day so um he picked me up at the hotel noon or oneish. CN: Okay. JH: Maybe even later, two? CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB· LMM Page 3 Zoom
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( JH: Late afternoon. CN: Okay and this is the day before? JH: This is the day of the show. CN: The day of the show, okay .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. okay and who was with him when he picked you up? JH: Um just the driver and it was just me and him. CN: Okay, do you know his driver? JH: Was it Kim? I think it was Kim that time. She usually does it, yeah I think Kim, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure but it was Kim but it was um usually Kim does the driving. CN: Okay. JH: Sometimes there's someone else. CN: Okay. JH: But I think it was Kim that time. Unk: What were they, what were they driving that day? JH: Ah like an S .. um an SUV, black. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay and do you know Kim's last name? JH: No I don't. CN: Okay how, how would' you describe Kim? JH: Oh she's really bubbly .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's always laughing .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's a very happy person, very fun. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:._ LMM Page4
CN: White person? Black person? Asian person? JH: Yeah white. CN: White person. JH: Middle, middle aged like. CN: Okay, okay, okay so that's the night, that's .. thal's the the driver and where do you guys go from there? JH: Yeah it was Kim. CN: Okay, okay. JH: Um we go to the airport. 14th and Prince is there and just CN: Okay and Kim drops you off and she's on her way and what ah what were the flight arrangements at the airport? JH: Oh you mean like .. CN: Meaning what did you guys fly, what when you got there. JH: Oh it was like a small jet .. CN: Okay. JH: .. we usually fly privately .. CN: Yep. JH: .. so a small jet, we just came in. CN: Okay have, have you flown with Prince numerous times? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and is it, is ii usually the same, the same jet do you know or .. JH: Um similar, it's always a.. it's not like his personal jet.. CN: Yep. JH: .. so sometimes ii changes. CN: Yeah, he uses a company .. JH: Yeah. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: LMM Page 5
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CN: .. and kind of whatever they have available. JH: Yeah. CN: Do you know, are there um when you fly with him, do you see the pilots? JH: Yeah, they're,' they're in the small little .. CN: Yep, yep. JH: .. cubicle in the front. CN: Yep, do you know, is it usually the same pilots or is it.. JH: Different.. CN: Different pilots, okay. JH: .. yeah different. CN: How about flight crew, do you .. JH: Sometimes it's the same lady um when we, but they're different.. CN: Okay. JH: .. different ones. That lady I've never met before. CN: Okay so she wa.s a new one to you. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay so ah when you, when you flew out, who .. who all was on the plane? JH: Oh it was just Prince um me and Kirk. CN: Okay and how did Kirk get there, do you know? JH: Ah he drove separately .. CN: Okay. JH: .. and met us there. CN: Okay so you guys met in the, in the airport. JH: Yeah, yeah in the plane yeah. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B . Page 6 |
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c CN: Okay how long um, so the driver you'd seen before ah the pilots maybe you've seen before, the flight ah crew, not the crew but the um flight attendant you hadn't seen before ah how about Kirk, have you seen him a lot? Do you know him? JH: Oh yeah. CN: Okay ah when, when did you first meet Kirk do you think? JH: Um sometime ah sometime late 2014 maybe .. CN: Okay. JH: .. or the first of 2015, something like that. CN: Okay and is that about the time that you met Prince as well? JH: Yeah I met Prince in 2014. CN: Okay so at..at about that same time. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay how would you describe um during this entire time then, the .. the relationship that Prince and Kirk have or how would you describe Kirk's role with Prince? ( JH: Oh he's his right-hand man. CN: Okay. JH: He does everything, I mean he was his dancer then like his music production, additional production on his you know, records and then he became his drummer and then he, he was the estate manager for Paisley Park and then he's a body guard, he was my drummer, he became my drummer.. CN: Okay. JH: .. and musical MD for a while and um so he does everything. CN: Okay did he, did he become your drummer after I assume you met him in '14, so after you met Prince, met him through Prince.. · JH: Yeah. CN: .. and then he did some drumming for you? Okay. JH: And then Prince put a band together for me and made Kirk the MD. CN: Okay um when you say that he's his right-hand man and he's the manager of Paisley Park, do you know, when you see Prince, is Kirk usually with him? l ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hiii, 008:. . Page 7
JH: No. CN: Okay. JH: It depends um it is just, um the scenarios are different, my scen .. l'm usually with Prince and if we need Kirk to do something, Kirk will open up the you know, sometimes we get locked out of Paisley and he has a separate key so he opens it up, stuff like that or he would go with .. I mean for me he was my drummer so he like ran all my stuff.. CN: Yeah. JH: .. you know, I always saw him. CN: Okay. For, for Prince he was, I mean he did everything. He was in the studio sometimes like JH: um any type of event at Paisley, he was the one that helped facilitate and bring the DJ's and just kind of ran events so .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I mean I saw him in so many different versions of like he was always doing something different. ( CN: Okay so the three of you are on the plane and anything ah you fly to Atlanta, is it directly to Atlanta? JH: Yeah. CN: Anything eventful or anything happen on the plane or .. JH: He wasn't feeling well, he just slept. CN: Okay. JH: In the back of the plane. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay for most of the entire flight? JH: Yeah he was .. yeah he wasn't feeling well. CN: Okay and um anything other than that, just he wasn't feeling well, he slept, okay. JH: He slept. CN: Okay how about when you get to Atlanta, what happens? ICR#16~ Statement Judith Gl DOCUMENT
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( JI-I: Ah we get to Atlanta, go straight to the dressing room, I go and get some food and he sound checks and then um and then he does the show. CN: Okay and where, so that's what Prince does, that's what you do, what does Kirk do during that time, do you know? JI-I: Yeah Kirk ah, I don't know where Kirk went, we met with another bodyguard, so the bodyguard kind of handled me and helped me get food and then Kirk went and, I don't really know, he has a lot going on cause he has to deal with whatever .. CN: Okay. JI-I: .. that's logistically like as if a manager so .. CN: Sure. JI-I: .. so he went down and maybe spoke to some of the .. I don't know, he was just, I didn't see him. CN: Okay so about, do you know about what time you got to the venue then? JI-I: Ah well let's see, the first show was a 7:30 show I believe, 7:00 or 7:30 and we were running late, we were pretty much getting there around that time ... ( CN: Okay. JI-I: .. so he had a really quick sound check and we had to get police escorted to the venue anyways because we were running behind. Unk: Where was the event? CN: Okay. JI-I: Where? Um it's the beautiful theater, the um ah what's it called, it's like a chain theater, they've got.it's like old theater, I don't know, I forget the name. Unk: Something like the Pantages or.. JI-I: It's not the Pantages but it's like ah one of those um ... CN: I forget now too, I read it of course but .. JI-I: It's like an old beautiful theater. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay so um first show's at 7:30 ah does, does ah Prince perform at that one? JI-I: Yeah. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB. . Page 9
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CN: Okay and take kind of..take us through um the you know, the night and you know let's say up until you guys go back to the airport. Anything eventful? JH: Ah well, he I mean, he .. he wasn't really feeling good until he did his first show, he did his first show and he did an amazing, incredible show and then came back to his dressing room and you know, I went into the dressing room and I said hey amazirig, he's like thank you you know, I mean he said a lot of stuff that was kind of hard to hear. CN: Okay. JH: II was stuff like you know ... CN: And I, and I would like to hear specifically and 1..1 ii might be hard for you to .. JH: .. yeah, I mean he, yeah he .. he just, he just was in a really .. l've never seen him, he was just kind of, oh man I enjoy sleeping more these days you know, maybe ii means I've done all I'm supposed to do here on this earth, stuff like that and I was kind of like, so I was like okay, you know and I was like well what.. what about the you know, like so you don't enjoy being here um you know, when you're awake? He's like no, it's boring, incredibly boring you know, so he was very kind of in a .. kind of depressed .. CN: ( Okay. JH: .. mindset and that was after the first show um second show he did the .. another amazing show, you'd never guess these things on .. on the stage and then he comes back and lh,at's when you know, he was a little more in a better mood.. ' CN: Okay. .. and he was um and then Janelle Monae and Ceelo Green kind of..and we all kind of JH: came in and had like a little, they were only there for like ten, fifteen minutes just talking how great ii was and um things like that. CN: Okay. JI-I: Oh there's another thing, there was, before the first show, or before ... after the first show when he was more depressed talking about all those things there was a guy from Electric Fetus which is a small independent um record shop and he had one of the um younger guys ah that owns it come out and .. and sit there and talk about business things like we want to do this and that with the store, so that was it. CN: Okay when you ah, let me take you back just a little bit here, when you said Prince wasn't feeling well um did he tell you what wasn't feeling well or what was, or was ii just that he wasn't feeling well. JH: Well that.. the day of, of that when we .. we woke up and went to the a'1rplane or the show he just says I'm not feeling well. ( CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B - Page 10 DOCUMENT
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( JH: But you know, the conversation we had a few days earlier he was talking about how he got sick and had to postpone the show and he was just like, he's like no I just developed flu like symptoms like you would have a flu and then I lost my voice which was a concern. CN: Sure. JH: But he'd had his, he had his voice for the Atlanta show so it wasn't that he lost his voice, I think he might have just.I mean later on he told me he was just nauseous. CN: Okay. JH: II was a nausea kind of thing. CN: Okay um so at the show he performs two shows, you mention a couple of people that, that ah pop their heads in or visit him, any other people that um that he maybe knew or that.that showed up um any people that he was um close to or spent any time with while, while you guys were there that you were aware of? JH: No. CN: Okay. JH: Not for that Atlanta trip. CN: Okay. JH: There, it was just um CeeLo and his kind of crew and Janelle and .. CN: Who's Janelle? JH: Janelle Monae. CN: Okay. JH: She's an incredible artist, she .. she's a good friend of ah Prince you know, she's just a good artist. CN: Okay, okay so the second show ends about what time do you think? JH: It started at 10:30 or something, ii was about an hour and a half show. CN: Okay, okay so nothing else that you can think about remarkable during the show um .. JH: Well he did say that um he joked about it after his last show and he was like man I thought I was going to fall asleep on .. up there. I was like .. ( CN: And, and what do you take that to mean, in your opinion do you think .. JH: I thought ii was very strange. ICR# 16012559
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( CN: Okay. JH: I mean I, this again, when this, when he said that this .. the incident hadn't happened yet on the plane so .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. I had no, I just thought that was weird, why would .. you never would, like you're so in the moment on stage you would never fall asleep so I thought .. ! found that to be very out of character for him to say something like that. CN: Okay for the, for the, since 2014 since you've know him, that was out of character. JH: Oh for the stage, yeah, you don't. CN: For the stage okay, okay. JH: No, that's when he's most alive is on stage. CN: Okay so um anything else you can think of before you guys leave the, leave the venue? JH: Um I mean we just talked about, I mean yeah there was a lot of things about the music, a lot of music business however is not what it used to be and just kind of discouraged about all of that.. CN: Okay. JH: .. it was more a conversation and that was along the lines of kind of after the first show, just music is not, it's not like, he's like back in the day you know, it was this and that and we were all like you just reminisce, reminiscing a lot about the heyday .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. and then feeling like right now it's like there's no one else, he was the only one, it was that kind of conversation. CN: Okay a little depressing kind of huh? JH: Oh yeah, yeah it was, it was, it was hard to see him in that state. CN: Okay um how do you guys leave the venue? JH: Ah we just, we go down to the elevator and we get into the SUV and we just um go back to the airport. CN: Okay so an SUV that picked you up from the airport, ah was that just, was that a service out there that, just a .. JH: Yeah. ICR#16~ DOB~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, LMM Zoom
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( CN: .. a transportation company that came and got you? JH: Yeah. CN: Did you know that person at all? The driver? JH: No. CN: That's not a usual.. JH: No we always, whenever we fly to a city .. CN: Yep. JH: .. there's always just some stranger driving us. CN: Okay so you didn't get the impression that Kirk or Prince knew the driver or.. JH: No you know. CN: Okay, okay so the same driver, same SUV takes you back to the airport. JH: Yeah. CN: And who's all in the SUV when you go back? JH: Um just Kirk, or I mean sorry, just Prince and I. CN: Okay, no Kirk? JH: No. CN: Okay how did Kirk get from the airport to the Atlanta venue? JH: Oh wait, was he sitting up front? I don't think he was. I think, there's always two, it's, it's, it's always Prince and I. CN: Yep. JH: Privately and then whoever else is going they go in the other van. CN: Okay. JH: I think that's what happened .. CN: Okay. JH: .. on the way, I know that was like that going, I think .. ! don't think Kirk was .. ( !CR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB!•.- · LMM Page 13
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( CN: So there's more than, there's more than one van that go from .. JH: Like two yeah. CN: Like two that go from the airport to the venue .. JH: Yeah . CN: .. and then from the venue back to the .. JH: Yeah I believe so. CN: Okay and you, and you think maybe Kirk was in the other one? JH: Yeah well there's only just Kirk was the only other person this time around so. CN: Okay so .. JH: But I don't remember Kirk being I you know, I don't really, he might have been in the front but .. · \' CN: Okay. JH: .. most likely he wasn't .. CN: Okay. JH: .. he was in the other one. CN: Do you know, is there, is there a .. my own ignorance, is there a .. a reason if there is just three of you traveling if there is two, two cars or is that just the way he likes it done or .. JH: I mean he just, whenever I'm there it's, it's, it's him and I. CN: Okay so maybe it's just a privacy thing or.. JH: Yeah. CN: You guys are going to perform together or.. JH: Well yeah, I mean ... CN: Yeah I understand. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay um so anything remarkable .. remarkable about the trip back to the airport? If you think about the ride back? ' JH: Um, he's talking, he was in a more pep in his step. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: 5/6/84 LMM Page 14
CN: Okay. JH: Talks about oh man, favorite moment was first time seeing Fleetwood Mac and kind of still reminiscing, it was all reminiscing .. CN: Yep. JH: .. and very much like I was just so excited about that and but he was talking, he was definitely, it seemed like he was in a better.. · CN: Okay. JH: .. better than he was before. CN: Okay and you get back to the airport and anything, you get out of the SUV, you're there, you're at the airport, go through security, is Kirk there then when you .. with you? Can you remember when you go through security? ( JH: We don't go through security. CN: Oh you go .. JH: We go straight to the, on .. on to the .. CN: Oh okay cause you're flying on, yeah, I get it. JH: Yeah. CN: So you are able to go straight to the plane. JH: Yeah we just, yeah the SUV's just take us straight up and drive us straight to the .. the airport. CN: Okay, gotcha, okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay so who, who all then boards the plane to go back? JH: Kirk, Prince and I. CN: Okay and was it the same, the same flight crew that brought you there? JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: Okay, as far as you know the same pilots, same .. JH: Yeah, same lady. 160112 5 ICR# Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM
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CN: Okay, same flight attendant. So take me through that then. You guys get on the plane and .. and what happens? JH: Ah we get on the plane, kind of get settled, ah Kirk always sits in the front, he sits like if the plane is that way and the pilots are this way, there's a seat and he just faces the pilot and then .. CN: Okay. JH: .. then there's the table and there's two seats this way and then Prince and I, Prince sits across directly from me and so it was that kind of thing and we talked a little bit but um he told the stewardess we're going to have something to eat and so she starts to prepare food, that was the first time he was going to eat anything because he hadn't eaten and he um, he goes to the back of the plane um I'm still sitting this way and he goes to the back, there's like another couch type of thing .. CN: Yep. JH: .. and um he, he's like fiddling with his bag okay .. CN: Okay. .. um and then I didn't really think much of it but he .. oh no, he sat here first and talked to JH: me a little bit and he asked me um if I needed a cough drop cause I was coughing and so I was like no I'm okay, or no he's like are you okay with your cough or whatever and I was like yeah I'm fine and then he goes and he stands up, he goes and he goes to the back of the plane and fiddles with his bag, and he's fiddling for a while and then he comes back and he hands me a cough drop and I was like okay, thank you and then he goes back to his bag and he's fiddling with the bag for a while again and um finally he. comes back to his table and um he's talking about you know, wants me to stay with him in Paisley Park for another day so we can like watch movies you know, just hang out for a while. CN: Yeah, okay. JH: Ah and then he says um but we'll see, I might need to sleep you know, get some rest and I was like yeah sure, you know whatever you need to do and that's when it happened. He ah, the lady had already brought him food out and he just took a couple bites and then ah .. CN: Okay. JH: .. then he just looks down and I um it looked like we were both going to kind of prepare to sleep or whatever, I was just... and he .. his eyes were fixed and he just kind of looked down and he kind of like did like one of these and like this again and then, and then just went like that. CN: Okay. JH: And I thought that was weird. CN: Okay, let me ask you a couple of um specific questions. When you say the bag, can you describe the bag that he's fiddling with or fiddling in? ICR#1601!-5 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Zoom
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.--- ( JH: Yeah it's a little like um black kind of, it's kind of ah, a round top .. CN: Okay, okay. JH: .. and then it's a square, a little square kind of thing. CN: Okay and is that um, do you know that to be his bag .. JH: It's his bag. CN: Is ii a bag you've seen before? JH: Yeah he always traveled with it. CN: Okay so it's his travel bag. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and from the time he first went back and came back with a cough drop for you and then I understand he went back to the bag again and then came back and then kind of nods off. How much lime are we talking about? (. JH: II was, like the first lime five minutes of fiddling .. CN: Okay. JH: .. something like that and then came back with the cough drop and then went back and then a little bit longer.. CN: Okay. JH: .. and then came back, something like that. CN: Okay so maybe from the first time he fiddled with ii, maybe ten minutes or .. JH: Yeah something like that, I mean .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I think he might have even gone to the restroom, yeah, yeah but ii was like around five, ten minutes or something like that. CN: Okay and is that the, is that the first lime um on this trip that you've noticed him doing any .. anything with his bag or fiddling with ii? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay, okay and okay we can .. so five to ten minutes and um you said he kind of nodded off or ii was strange lo you .. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB~ Page 17
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( JH: Yeah. CN: .. and then go on, what happened then? JH: So he you know, he nods off and then I hear some water spilling, I look under the table and he still has the water bottle in his hand and it's spilling and I thought, I was like immediately I go up and I went straight up to Kirk, I woke Kirk up and I said hey Kirk, I don't know, I don't know. ( CN: Okay was Kirk sleeping during this time? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. JH: I was like I don't know and so he gets up and he sits next to Prince and that's when we start..he shakes Prince, nothing. I was like, I was like freaking out um we both got up, Kirk and I and went straight to the cockpit and we're like we got to like land, we have to land and so that's you know, he, he goes in, Kirk you know is telling them we gotta land we have an emergency situation and then we get back and we're still, he's just holding Prince and he's like Prince, shaking him, no .. no response. And I was like is his heart beating and then he felt his chest and he's like yeah and I was like okay and then he kept shaking him Prince, Prince, nothing and then I ask again, is his heart beating and he felt it and he was like yeah but it's irregular so it's getting like, time was not on our side and um it was taking forever to descend but finally we descended. · CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: And what um, Ms. Hill, what..do you have any inkling of what's going on or do you, are you thinking something? JH: I thought he was dead. CN: Okay. JH: I was like he looked dead and I was freaking, I was just like .. my heart was pounding, that's why I kept asking if his heart was beating cause he looked dead to me. I was like he's not.. he looks like lifeless, lifeless, like he's, he's not I mean I don't know if you would call that fainting, that's not fainting, like he looks like not alive. CN: Yeah there's, there's nothing there, there's no .. JH: There's nothing. CN: .. no response, no .. ( DOBlllP ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, Page 18
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mrwiggles said: purplerabbithole said: It doesn't necessarily mean Kirk was "lying". He might have meant that he didn't know Prince was back on pills again and had found a way to procure them himself. Like i said earlier, KJ obviously made some mistakes and was secretive and loyal maybe in a ill=adviced way. But he was the one calling his doctor (a doctor who never seemed to prescribe more than what was needed for pain and withdrawal), carrying P off the tarmac, expressing concern to others, and arranging for rehab. Those who left because they didn't want to enable him were admirable but they had to know that P would just hire someone new everytime an employee caught on to something odd. Sticking around to find a way to help and still insure his quality of life and his dignity could not have been easy.
[Edited 4/20/18 18:49pm] It had gotten out of control for both Prince and KJ. My gut feeling is Kirk was doing the best he could with this escalating horrifying situation. At the end of the day I think he truly tried to help the brotha get off the junk. I agree with you. Kirk has his own family, so while he was with Prince a lot, it’s not like he stayed at PP 24/7. KJ didn’t even know the code to the vault because Bremer Trust had to have the vault drilled open. The TV interview that Kirk did last year was weird and rubbed me the wrong way. However, it says a lot that Kirk was able to get Prince to see Dr. Schulenberg a couple of times in his last week of life. Prince obviously trusted KJ more than just about anyone. I wonder if Kirk wanted to do more (such as have Prince stay in the hospital), but Prince being Prince wasn’t going to agree to that, so Kirk did what he could, which was to get Prince to agree to see Dr. Schulenberg for treatment. Clearly and unfortunately, the outreach to Dr. Kornfeld occurred just a bit too late. My guess is that Kirk probably feels guilty that he didn’t do more for Prince. . I feel that it would have been hard to get Prince to stay in a hospital for any meaningful period of time for treatment. I don’t know what the laws are in MN regarding forcing someone to take medical treatment, but my understanding is that in most states, it’s easier for family members (spouse, parent, child, brother/sister) to force someone into treatment or medical care. Prince had siblings, but none of the other family members. He was probably concerned about his privacy in a hospital plus he wasn’t a big fan of doctors. I also wonder if he may have had an aversion to being in hospitals because being in a hospital could trigger flashbacks about Amiir’s short life, since Amiir never left the hospital. Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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( JH: Nothing, he's just limp. He's like, we're shaking him and there's nothing. So you know, thank god you know, Prince or Kirk said his heart was still beating but I was like you know so, but that was very scary. CN: Okay, okay so the .. and I'll not to, 1..1 assume during all of this there's a pilot and a copilot, are they in the cockpit during this entire time? ( JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and the flight attendant ah .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. from, from, from when you got on the plane you said she served some food um .. JH: Yeah . CN: .. she was, what was she doing, normal flight attendant things? JH: Yeah she was doing normal flight attendant things and yeah. CN: Okay and Kirk was sleeping. JH: Yeah. CN: Did he fall asleep shortly after you took off or .. JH: Yeah, just in front, yeah right away. CN: Okay and you said that's typically when you fly .. JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: .. he'll sit in the front. JH: Yeah he usually keeps to himself in the front. CN: Okay, okay so the plane is ah is finally getting down to the ground and what happens next? JH: We finally land and then the paramedics come onto the plane and, and they're very, to me in my opinion they were moving too slow, I was like, they're like okay we've heard that someone's unresponsive but oh they're still alive, I was just.it was frustrating me .. CN: Okay. .. finally they're like oh can we move this table and I was like is the ambulance here and JH: they're like they're five minutes out so it was like okay so you know, then they're like oh can we move this table, how do we get him out of his seat, I was like guys this is kind of an emergency ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB1
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like, so finally their like, someone just like picks, someone, everybody just kind of picks up a leg and an arm and they all kind of just carry him out into the ambulance and get him onto the bed. CN: Okay so the first two people that showed up were separate from the actual ambulance showing up? JH: Yeah they were like paramedics .. CN: Okay. JH: .. they were not the ambulance. CN: in .. Okay, all right so you guys pick him up, you carry him out and you get him on the bed JH: Yeah. CN: .. and they put him in the ambulance um do you all go in the ambulance or who goes in the ambulance? ' JH: We all go. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. \ CN: And did um did you take anything with you from, from the plane? Were you guys flying with luggage did you .. JH: We had our luggage but I just took my purse. CN: Okay. JH: And um Kirk carried his stuff. CN: Kirk, Kirk's stuff? JH: No, his .. Prince's stuff. CN: Oh Prince's stuff. JH: Like his cane and his bag, he carried his stuff for him. CN: Okay. JH: Um into you know .. CN: The ambulance. ICR#160.25 Statement Judith GlolJI Hill, DOB MM Page 20
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JH: .. and he and they said one person can sit um in the, next to the bed and one person can sit in the front and I decided I would sit in the front.. CN: Okay. JH: .. it was so traumatic for me to see this whole thing. CN: Yeah. JH: So um you know, they, they proceeded and they asked like did he take anything and then Kirk said Percocet and so the guys were like well we're, we're guessing he took ah more than one, I think they said something like that. · CN: Okay. JH: And they're like we think, we think, we think we know what we need to do here and then they, they gave him something and then they were like okay there we go, there we go and I was like what's happening, it's like that's what we thought and then I was like okay and then I get up into the front and we start driving and they're they keep telling Prince like .. ' CN: Okay so that's, so you were in the back initially, this is taking place .. JH: Oh no, this .. this was like ah when we were all standing around .. CN: Yep. JH: .. ah before we had tooken our actual seats .. CN: Yep . JH: .. they, they, they um hit him with the thing .. CN: Yep . JH: ..and they were like .. CN: Is this in the back of the, the ambulance? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. \. JH: I'm kind of still..Kirk and I and everybody's kind of just standing, we're all standing in the back of the ambulance .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. it hadn't moved yet and he was just in the bed and they hit him with the thing and then, then, then we got situated and Kirk decided to sit back there and I decided to sit in the front and then the vehicle started moving and ah .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:.
CN:
Okay.
JH:
.. they were talking and they were like telling Prince you gotta cooperate with us, we're
going to try and get you back and they um you know, and then his body started convulsing like
rapidly and I was like what is going on, they're like it's looking like it's wearing off, we got to hit
him again and they hit him again and then these .. the guys like hey, can .. can we stop the
vehicle, we need to take a picture of his heart and all this is going on and I'm just like oh my
god, so finally like you know, they hit him again and it's just a lot of chatter and then um finally
we get to the ambulance and we pull in and or to the emergency room um and we pull in um
and um then they open the, the doors and I get out of my seat and I open the .. and they, they
pull him out and I, and I see him and he's like looking around and I was like oh my god, thank
you, he's alive like so whatever they did worked. I was like so .. / really thought he was dead, I
was like I don't know if he's going to make ii but he got through that and I was so thankful.
CN:
Okay um let me take you back a little bit, when, when the ambulance crew asked what
he took and Kirk said Percocet..
JH:
Uh-huh.
CN:
.. did he say anything, anything else about that. What exactly did you hear the
conversation from Kirk about, about what he took.
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JH:
He just said Percocet.
CN:
Okay.
JH:
That was it.
CN:
Did they ask him how many? Did Kirk have a response?
JH:
No, I don't think so, I don't remember correctly, I'm not 100% but I don't think he said he
took two or three or what.I don't think he gave a number..
CN:
Okay.
JH:
.. they were the ones that were like no offense guys, but we think he's like taken ..
CN:
Yep.
JH:
.. several or something like that's what they were saying lo us.
CN:
Okay and did Kirk have a response to that?
JH:
No ii was just, we were all just like yeah, ii was a lot going on but that was, that was the
end of that conversation.
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CN:
Okay um ..
Unk:
Just to ask, was this all news to you that he was taking Percocet?
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sonshine said: He shouldn't have been left alone. I'm guessing the pills he got from the doc weren't working - yes, he would notice this right away, it doesn't take much time for these pills to work. Perhaps KJ was afraid he would take too many so he didn't leave them? Not sure wht he didn't try the other pills Dr S prescribed. I think Prince was already way deeper into the addiction/withdrawl battle than anyone realized except himself perhaps. He knew what was working for him and it wasn't straight up Percocet. That's why all the other pills. He wanted to make sure he always had something on hand that would work when he needed it. Withdrawl is agonizing. This can't be expressed enough. Addicts will do anything to avoid it. It is debillitating. Prince did not want to find himself in that predicament. I need to do some more research before I speak in error, but i thought i read once that Prince preferred a painkiller that waz taksn off the market. He probably found an illicit source for those pills. He could have had that stash of tainted pills for a long time if he had been able to procure a large supply. But he also could have had a reliable source for that particular pill and unfortunately got a bad batch recently. But its all speculation. I have been going around and around in circles trying to figure out how or why he was getting pills off the street when he didn't have to. I get the privacy thing. But i also think they were better, or worked better, for him. I think he was humoring KJ somewhat by going to the legit doctor. I think he knew in his heart by that point that he had a serious problem, those close to him were starting to see it and coming down on him, it was becoming unmanagable. I think he knew he was going away that next day to get help and he wanted to feel good one last time so he took the "good pills". I don't believe he knew he was taking fentanyl, and maybe it was just in the last week. But i wonder if he had been taking them unknowingly for longer. It would explain the decline. It would explain the turn downward people saw in him. Fentanyl is so dangerous because the high is fast and the high is good. But its short. As soon as the user gets off they are looking for the next high. Someone must have been helping him get the tainted pills. I doubt any of the players involved knew they were tainted tho. There isn't any evidence he took pills to get high. The wooh is on the one! | |
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