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Reply #450 posted 04/02/18 2:11pm

ChocolateBox31
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luv4u said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



That does not mean anything. The chef was telling a funny story.

Ray also shared a funny story about a rare time he was scolded by the renowned perfectionist:

"Once, there was a smudge on the outside of a package in which he had left an overnight meal. When he arrived to work the next day, Prince was in the kitchen waiting. He pointed at the smudge, and simply gave Ray the two-fingers-to-the-eyes 'I'm watching you' gesture."


"I know he really enjoyed my cooking," Ray added of his boss. "It made him really happy. I don't think that [level of satisfaction] was easy for him to get."

rolleyes

I never said it did mean anything.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #451 posted 04/02/18 2:12pm

LilaLiebe

ChocolateBox3121 said:

rogifan said:

Does someone have a link to the interview where the chefs allegedly said Prince told them he was watching them. Give us a link to an actual quote (not second hand).

http://www.etonline.com/news/187781_the_final_meal_prince_personal_chef_prepared_for_him?amp

"Once, there was a smudge on the outside of a package in which he had left an overnight meal. When he arrived to work the next day, Prince was in the kitchen waiting. He pointed at the smudge, and simply gave Ray the two-fingers-to-the-eyes 'I'm watching you' gesture."

You know, I've read this quote before from this interview, and read discussions about it (as well as hearing that nut Abigail ranting on about it before I couldn't stomach watching her anymore even out of curiousity) and I've never understood why some people automatically assume this remark made by Prince to have been made in a totally serious, 'threatening' way. Yeah I'm sure Prince didn't like having his food containers unclean...but somehow I doubt that something described as a "smudge" is the same thing as a filth-covered container which surely would have upset Prince (or anyone concerned with cleanliness and sanitary conditions for food).

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I took this to be a semi-serious yet mostly playful and joking remark to the chefs, which was why RR told the story in an interview, and not an indication - as some try to claim - that Prince was "onto" the chefs and THEIR DEVIOUS SCHEME TO POISON HIM rolleyes or whatever. Prince was, as described by countless people, a guy who loved to joke around. In my opinion, that's all that exchange/gesture was (or maybe a bit serious since, like I said, Prince was fastidious and I'm sure didn't want his food containers messy) but mostly this was a good-natured ribbing about the smudge...yet it seems there are some who are taking this 'I'm watching you' gesture to a far extreme simply in an attempt to shore up their crazy theory that the chefs were up to no good and 'Prince knew it' and was letting them know.

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Reply #452 posted 04/02/18 2:13pm

benni

zenarose said:

disch said:

I think it was PEL who reached out to Dr K (as per this article -- benni might just have got it slightly wrong when she referred to her as P's lawyer rather than business associate).

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But she has never confirmed that herself; besides who was mentioned in the warrant (i.e., Dr S), we don't know the specific people who were involved in whatever was going on with Prince's last week. There was that call that was allegedly placed at 6am to an NYC associate, but it's never been revealed who that was either.

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Barring a criminal/civil case that reveals them, we'll likely never know these details. I don't think the people involved are looking to discuss this publicly.

There are reports that state "PEL, Prince's attorney that won his master's back" and "the attorney that won his master's back" and "an associate that had worked with Prince in the past that lives in CA". So it is a tad but CONFUZZIN' 😶


Thanks zenarose. Without having the actual article to look at, and keep everyone's job titles straight, it was rather conuzzin'! And maybe it was one of those reports that I read related to the lawyer, or I just read that she was an associate of Van's and got the training mixed up. But PEL is who I was talking about. According to that article, she would have been called in the early morning hours of 4/20/18, so by the 5th day after the plane incident in Moline.

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Reply #453 posted 04/02/18 2:15pm

LilaLiebe

THANK YOU. That's exactly what this was: the chef recalling a funny interaction between Prince and himself, and nothing nefarious or suspicious.

luv4u said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:



That does not mean anything. The chef was telling a funny story.

Ray also shared a funny story about a rare time he was scolded by the renowned perfectionist:

"Once, there was a smudge on the outside of a package in which he had left an overnight meal. When he arrived to work the next day, Prince was in the kitchen waiting. He pointed at the smudge, and simply gave Ray the two-fingers-to-the-eyes 'I'm watching you' gesture."


"I know he really enjoyed my cooking," Ray added of his boss. "It made him really happy. I don't think that [level of satisfaction] was easy for him to get."

An old soul
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Reply #454 posted 04/02/18 2:16pm

PeteSilas

Mumio said:

Dibblekins said:

Disclaimer: the following is not about Prince but is loosely based on conversations I have witnessed.
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A woman is in significant, long-standing, chronic pain. Her underlying condition is, sadly, incurable.
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She has mooted the idea of suicide using pills. However, her main concern is their not working properly (ie as a suicide aid) and leaving her even more incapacitated than she is already. She wants to be absolutely certain they will work and result in a painless demise.
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She decides to experiment. She will try out the chosen pills amongst people she knows will have her resuscitated (she may not tell them of her plans, but she trusts them enough to know they'll look after her).
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The result is that she finds they worked very well. So well that 2 shots of Narcan are required to revive her. If, the second time, she uses an even higher dose - alone - then they're bound to have the desired effect.
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No resuscitation; no disabling after-effects. Sorted.


This.


i don't get it, is it a real scenario or is the "disclaimer" meant to make it theoretical? Even if Prince did do that, why on a plane? I thought maybe he did it on a plane thinking that no one would be able to save him, no one would get to him in time. Most likely, the complications, and lets face it, most people would be dead in a situation like that, no one is going to change flight plans and airport landing plans for you or me. so, that would be damned risky thing to try in the air like that. I don't buy it. I interpreted the first thing as being a possible failed suicide attempt. I don't believe Judith's story for the same reason i don't believe anyone's story in those high profile situations, everyone has an agenda which usually is pretty selfish.

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Reply #455 posted 04/02/18 2:18pm

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LilaLiebe said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

http://www.etonline.com/news/187781_the_final_meal_prince_personal_chef_prepared_for_him?amp

"Once, there was a smudge on the outside of a package in which he had left an overnight meal. When he arrived to work the next day, Prince was in the kitchen waiting. He pointed at the smudge, and simply gave Ray the two-fingers-to-the-eyes 'I'm watching you' gesture."

You know, I've read this quote before from this interview, and read discussions about it (as well as hearing that nut Abigail ranting on about it before I couldn't stomach watching her anymore even out of curiousity) and I've never understood why some people automatically assume this remark made by Prince to have been made in a totally serious, 'threatening' way. Yeah I'm sure Prince didn't like having his food containers unclean...but somehow I doubt that something described as a "smudge" is the same thing as a filth-covered container which surely would have upset Prince (or anyone concerned with cleanliness and sanitary conditions for food).

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I took this to be a semi-serious yet mostly playful and joking remark to the chefs, which was why RR told the story in an interview, and not an indication - as some try to claim - that Prince was "onto" the chefs and THEIR DEVIOUS SCHEME TO POISON HIM rolleyes or whatever. Prince was, as described by countless people, a guy who loved to joke around. In my opinion, that's all that exchange/gesture was (or maybe a bit serious since, like I said, Prince was fastidious and I'm sure didn't want his food containers messy) but mostly this was a good-natured ribbing about the smudge...yet it seems there are some who are taking this 'I'm watching you' gesture to a far extreme simply in an attempt to shore up their crazy theory that the chefs were up to no good and 'Prince knew it' and was letting them know.

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Exactly!

Prince already trusted them already. He was just warning them in a sly Prince like way not to do it again.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #456 posted 04/02/18 2:22pm

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PeteSilas said:

zenarose said:

rogifan said: HTTP://www.citypages.com/fs8238997

you guys are reading that all wrong, prince did the thing deniro did in meet the parents he said "ray..." and put his fingers up to his eyes, to me it sounded like prince, but a more mellow prince and one that i'd laugh at if it happened to me, nothing nefarious. Prince liked to micromanage, and when you micromanage, you do it to keep people in line because you can't really watch them all the time, so you emphasize small things like grease on the package to bust their balls over. It came out of european miltary training and it infiltrated everything and everyone else.

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Yes, Prince could have been joking around, as he often did.

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Reply #457 posted 04/02/18 2:23pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

luv4u said:

rolleyes

I never said it did mean anything.



Goodness gracious kcool rolleyes

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Reply #458 posted 04/02/18 2:28pm

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PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I concur. What bothers me is that the family is not disputing any of these stories/allegations, and why is that? Enquirer and other tabloids said a "source" gave them this info, but whom?? The Enquirer said that the AIDS story came straight from Tyka, and she never gave any public statement disputing that story. It's very suspicious, to say the least.

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All the family has to say is that these stories are false, but they have not done so.

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Was it AIDS?

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Was it Cancer?

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Was it Accidental Overdose?

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Was it Suicide?

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Was Prince a long time prescription drug abuser?

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If it was my loved one, I would have absolutely no problem in answering. As my Mother used to say "Nip it in the bud", and be done with it!!

the enquirer said tyka fed them the aids story? any source to that? i hadn't caught that.

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https://www.nationalenqui...interview/

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And, they also said that it was a cover-up and that pills were removed from PP (front page):

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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And this.......

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Top of the page reads: Autopsy cover-up:

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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I understand this is Tabloid news, but so is TMZ and they have been right about most things. Take it with a grain of salt, but SOMEONE was feeding them these stories.......who?? confused hmmm

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Reply #459 posted 04/02/18 2:28pm

PeteSilas

the most noteworthy thing about that interview other than being one of the very first ones done post-death, is that the cook said that prince had been having some kind of throat/esophogas problems and had been drinking lots of smoothies because of it. Some have said that that is a symptom of trying to quit an opiate, i wouldn't know but it had been going on for a few months prior to death, whatever it was. the cook was in the dark too from the sounds of it, he just did what he was told and made the smoothies and soups. Never said anything about prince being out of it, and in fact said he was "always on point" which sounds like Prince.

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Reply #460 posted 04/02/18 2:31pm

PeteSilas

no one mentioned tyka did they? when elvis died, before the ambulance's were even called, the enquirer was called by a female and told that elvis was dead, no one ever found out for sure who it was but the enquirer still says that they were tipped off before anyone else outside that house. terrible that there are people close to you that would do something like that with your death but it happens. Personally, i was never the same when my dad died and a lot of his things turned up missing from his apartment, his "buddy" the manager was the only one with access. My faith in humanity has never been strong.

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

the enquirer said tyka fed them the aids story? any source to that? i hadn't caught that.

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https://www.nationalenqui...interview/

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And, they also said that it was a cover-up and that pills were removed from PP (front page):

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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And this.......

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Top of the page reads: Autopsy cover-up:

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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I understand this is Tabloid news, but so is TMZ and they have been right about most things. Take it with a grain of salt, but SOMEONE was feeding them these stories.......who?? confused hmmm

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Reply #461 posted 04/02/18 2:34pm

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PeteSilas said:

the most noteworthy thing about that interview other than being one of the very first ones done post-death, is that the cook said that prince had been having some kind of throat/esophogas problems and had been drinking lots of smoothies because of it. Some have said that that is a symptom of trying to quit an opiate, i wouldn't know but it had been going on for a few months prior to death, whatever it was. the cook was in the dark too from the sounds of it, he just did what he was told and made the smoothies and soups. Never said anything about prince being out of it, and in fact said he was "always on point" which sounds like Prince.

It does, it can also be from taking the opiots for a longer time (long term user). I've posted about this months ago on another thread. The symptoms he had can be caused from the medics he took or from trying to quit an opiate.

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Reply #462 posted 04/02/18 2:43pm

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PeteSilas said:

no one mentioned tyka did they? when elvis died, before the ambulance's were even called, the enquirer was called by a female and told that elvis was dead, no one ever found out for sure who it was but the enquirer still says that they were tipped off before anyone else outside that house. terrible that there are people close to you that would do something like that with your death but it happens. Personally, i was never the same when my dad died and a lot of his things turned up missing from his apartment, his "buddy" the manager was the only one with access. My faith in humanity has never been strong.

cloveringold85 said:

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https://www.nationalenqui...interview/

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And, they also said that it was a cover-up and that pills were removed from PP (front page):

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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And this.......

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Top of the page reads: Autopsy cover-up:

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Image result for enquirer prince had aids tyka

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I understand this is Tabloid news, but so is TMZ and they have been right about most things. Take it with a grain of salt, but SOMEONE was feeding them these stories.......who?? confused hmmm

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Did you click on the first link, which says:

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SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: AIDS-Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

'Had two years to deal with it,' says Tyka!

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #463 posted 04/02/18 2:47pm

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cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

no one mentioned tyka did they? when elvis died, before the ambulance's were even called, the enquirer was called by a female and told that elvis was dead, no one ever found out for sure who it was but the enquirer still says that they were tipped off before anyone else outside that house. terrible that there are people close to you that would do something like that with your death but it happens. Personally, i was never the same when my dad died and a lot of his things turned up missing from his apartment, his "buddy" the manager was the only one with access. My faith in humanity has never been strong.

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Did you click on the first link, which says:

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SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: AIDS-Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

'Had two years to deal with it,' says Tyka!

But if that was the truth, why does she need to write a book to "clear things up"? Or why didn't she say the same in the radio interview? The radio interview was live, she could've said everything and no one would've twisted her words.

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Reply #464 posted 04/02/18 2:49pm

luvsexy4all

hold on....she HASNT disputed this article?????

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Reply #465 posted 04/02/18 2:51pm

cloveringold85

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I was doing some research on Fentanyl and trying to find out how long Fentanyl would have to be in the system to make it's way into the Liver. It was stated that Prince had high levels of Fentanyl already in his liver.

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Also, given the fact that Prince was given 2-shots of Narcan in Moline....this sent his body into withdrawals and he checked-out of the hospital in Moline and went home to PP when he should have been monitored very closely by a doctor.

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It could be that Dr. Shulenberg was trying to help Prince get into recovery, and he had seen Prince on the 20th, but obviously help came too late.

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Naloxone (brand name: Narcan) is an opiate antagonist medication that is sometimes used to counter the effects of opiates such as fentanyl and address overdose symptoms. The drug is typically administered via injection or a nasal spray. When given intravenously, it can begin to reduce central nervous system depression within minutes. Because symptoms can be severe and naloxone is short-acting (about 30 to 81 minutes in duration), several doses are often needed in order to counteract a fentanyl overdose.6

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While naloxone can counteract an overdose and save lives, its use can precipitate acute opioid withdrawal—resulting in sudden and severely unpleasant side effects, some of which may require additional medical management. Additionally, in severe cases, an individual may only be partially revived from the naloxone—out of immediate danger, but still showing some signs of central nervous system depression resulting from the fentanyl. For instance, respiratory rate may be improved, but still slowed enough that treatment with mechanical ventilation is needed to assist with breathing. While recovering from a fentanyl overdose, fluid intake and body temperature are also important to consider and will be competently handled by trained medical professionals.6

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https://www.projectknow.c...-overdose/

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Reply #466 posted 04/02/18 2:52pm

luvsexy4all

cloveringold85 said:

I was doing some research on Fentanyl and trying to find out how long Fentanyl would have to be in the system to make it's way into the Liver. It was stated that Prince had high levels of Fentanyl already in his liver.

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Also, given the fact that Prince was given 2-shots of Narcan in Moline....this sent his body into withdrawals and he checked-out of the hospital in Moline and went home to PP when he should have been monitored very closely by a doctor.

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It could be that Dr. Shulenberg was trying to help Prince get into recovery, and he had seen Prince on the 20th, but obviously help came too late.

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Naloxone (brand name: Narcan) is an opiate antagonist medication that is sometimes used to counter the effects of opiates such as fentanyl and address overdose symptoms. The drug is typically administered via injection or a nasal spray. When given intravenously, it can begin to reduce central nervous system depression within minutes. Because symptoms can be severe and naloxone is short-acting (about 30 to 81 minutes in duration), several doses are often needed in order to counteract a fentanyl overdose.6

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While naloxone can counteract an overdose and save lives, its use can precipitate acute opioid withdrawal—resulting in sudden and severely unpleasant side effects, some of which may require additional medical management. Additionally, in severe cases, an individual may only be partially revived from the naloxone—out of immediate danger, but still showing some signs of central nervous system depression resulting from the fentanyl. For instance, respiratory rate may be improved, but still slowed enough that treatment with mechanical ventilation is needed to assist with breathing. While recovering from a fentanyl overdose, fluid intake and body temperature are also important to consider and will be competently handled by trained medical professionals.6

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https://www.projectknow.c...-overdose/

so he already had some fentanyl in his system BEFORE the pills that killled him?

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Reply #467 posted 04/02/18 2:53pm

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luvsexy4all said:

hold on....she HASNT disputed this article?????

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If she has, I certainly haven't heard it.

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Reply #468 posted 04/02/18 2:55pm

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cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

no one mentioned tyka did they? when elvis died, before the ambulance's were even called, the enquirer was called by a female and told that elvis was dead, no one ever found out for sure who it was but the enquirer still says that they were tipped off before anyone else outside that house. terrible that there are people close to you that would do something like that with your death but it happens. Personally, i was never the same when my dad died and a lot of his things turned up missing from his apartment, his "buddy" the manager was the only one with access. My faith in humanity has never been strong.

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Did you click on the first link, which says:

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SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: -Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

'Had two years to deal with it,' says Tyka!

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #469 posted 04/02/18 2:55pm

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luvsexy4all said:

cloveringold85 said:

I was doing some research on Fentanyl and trying to find out how long Fentanyl would have to be in the system to make it's way into the Liver. It was stated that Prince had high levels of Fentanyl already in his liver.

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Also, given the fact that Prince was given 2-shots of Narcan in Moline....this sent his body into withdrawals and he checked-out of the hospital in Moline and went home to PP when he should have been monitored very closely by a doctor.

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It could be that Dr. Shulenberg was trying to help Prince get into recovery, and he had seen Prince on the 20th, but obviously help came too late.

.

Naloxone (brand name: Narcan) is an opiate antagonist medication that is sometimes used to counter the effects of opiates such as fentanyl and address overdose symptoms. The drug is typically administered via injection or a nasal spray. When given intravenously, it can begin to reduce central nervous system depression within minutes. Because symptoms can be severe and naloxone is short-acting (about 30 to 81 minutes in duration), several doses are often needed in order to counteract a fentanyl overdose.6

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While naloxone can counteract an overdose and save lives, its use can precipitate acute opioid withdrawal—resulting in sudden and severely unpleasant side effects, some of which may require additional medical management. Additionally, in severe cases, an individual may only be partially revived from the naloxone—out of immediate danger, but still showing some signs of central nervous system depression resulting from the fentanyl. For instance, respiratory rate may be improved, but still slowed enough that treatment with mechanical ventilation is needed to assist with breathing. While recovering from a fentanyl overdose, fluid intake and body temperature are also important to consider and will be competently handled by trained medical professionals.6

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https://www.projectknow.c...-overdose/

so he already had some fentanyl in his system BEFORE the pills that killled him?

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The ME said that there was no previous Fentanyl in Prince's system.

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It was stated that Prince had been dead for about 6-hours, so I assume that was enough time for Fentanyl to absorb into his Liver, but I was just trying to find out exactly how long that would take??

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Someone here who works in healthcare and or addiction could probably shed some more light on this.

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Reply #470 posted 04/02/18 2:57pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Did you click on the first link, which says:

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SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: -Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

'Had two years to deal with it,' says Tyka!

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

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Yes, I know that. Enquirer was trying to spin the story, saying that Tyka said it. My issue is "why" hasn't she spoke out against these tabloids? That is the point/question I am trying to make here.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #471 posted 04/02/18 2:59pm

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cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

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Yes, I know that. Enquirer was trying to spin the story, saying that Tyka said it. My issue is "why" hasn't she spoke out against these tabloids? That is the point/question I am trying to make here.

Maybe she's waiting to put in the book that she says has ALL the answers in.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #472 posted 04/02/18 3:03pm

PeteSilas

ChocolateBox3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Did you click on the first link, which says:

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SLOW SUICIDE!

Prince’s Sister Confirms: -Ridden Star Was Ready To Die

'Had two years to deal with it,' says Tyka!

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

because tabloids usually have someone close to a star. chick sold our man out in the eighties for a quick fix.

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Reply #473 posted 04/02/18 3:11pm

disch

Because it's a waste of time to engage with a tabloid. By her talking about this stuff, she would just bring attention to it and get people asking more questions. Tabloids say crazy stuff about celebrities all the time, and every celebrity has all kinds of nutty rumors about them. It's par for the course. I'm sure they had plenty to say about him when he was alive too.

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

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Yes, I know that. Enquirer was trying to spin the story, saying that Tyka said it. My issue is "why" hasn't she spoke out against these tabloids? That is the point/question I am trying to make here.

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Reply #474 posted 04/02/18 3:36pm

morningsong

Dibblekins said:

morningsong said:



Did she buy 100 of them?


Not a clue. Not even sure it got to that point. But it's certainly something people have pondered, particularly those who have a real need to be in total control of everything that involves them.



Yeah, I get there could be any number of possiblities, but going back to Prince, on the warrants, they collected a lot of the same kind of pills st PP, nearly 100 iirc. It doesn't seem to me that if you want to just test some pills out, one wouldn't buy a whole bunch of them at once. I mean maybe 10, maybe 20 but 100 seems a bit overboard for someone planning to pick a day to overdose. And picking a time when one is several thousand feet in the air as a test run hoping the pilot lands in the right spot, and that the ambulance arrives in time with a Narcan shot is really pushing it, wouldn't you think? Kirk didn't have a Narcan shot, the pilot didn't, who would he be planning on saving him? Why not just wait until his home, where the paramedics that know him are just down the street and where he would have more control of the media coverage? Seems a bit YA fan-fictionish to me.

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Reply #475 posted 04/02/18 3:55pm

morningsong

benni said:

disch said:

I think it was PEL who reached out to Dr K (as per this article -- benni might just have got it slightly wrong when she referred to her as P's lawyer rather than business associate).

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But she has never confirmed that herself; besides who was mentioned in the warrant (i.e., Dr S), we don't know the specific people who were involved in whatever was going on with Prince's last week. There was that call that was allegedly placed at 6am to an NYC associate, but it's never been revealed who that was either.

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Barring a criminal/civil case that reveals them, we'll likely never know these details. I don't think the people involved are looking to discuss this publicly.


That was her! She was an activist, not a lawyer. Where I got it confused is that she is a close associate with Van Jones (who is a trained laywer per the article you linked).



Yeah that's the article I remember reading. "Prince grew increasingly agitated in the following days. That prompted one member of his staff to place a call to New York at 6 a.m. on April 20 "


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Reply #476 posted 04/02/18 3:58pm

benni

morningsong said:

Dibblekins said:


Not a clue. Not even sure it got to that point. But it's certainly something people have pondered, particularly those who have a real need to be in total control of everything that involves them.



Yeah, I get there could be any number of possiblities, but going back to Prince, on the warrants, they collected a lot of the same kind of pills st PP, nearly 100 iirc. It doesn't seem to me that if you want to just test some pills out, one wouldn't buy a whole bunch of them at once. I mean maybe 10, maybe 20 but 100 seems a bit overboard for someone planning to pick a day to overdose. And picking a time when one is several thousand feet in the air as a test run hoping the pilot lands in the right spot, and that the ambulance arrives in time with a Narcan shot is really pushing it, wouldn't you think? Kirk didn't have a Narcan shot, the pilot didn't, who would he be planning on saving him? Why not just wait until his home, where the paramedics that know him are just down the street and where he would have more control of the media coverage? Seems a bit YA fan-fictionish to me.


Not only that, but if someone is thinking of taking an overdose on purpose, he would have taken them all, to ensure the outcome. He didn't.

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Reply #477 posted 04/02/18 3:59pm

morningsong

cloveringold85 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

.

Yes, I know that. Enquirer was trying to spin the story, saying that Tyka said it. My issue is "why" hasn't she spoke out against these tabloids? That is the point/question I am trying to make here.



Gag order due to the investigation?

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Reply #478 posted 04/02/18 3:59pm

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If he wanted to kill himself why would he pick such a panic ridden hit or miss method...why not just pull your car inside, turn it on and go to sleep...with your cloths on right side out, a pillow under your beautiful head, and listening to some pretty music..very effective...prince was all about luxury and self image, if he was going to kill himself he would have made it special, the way he did everything...not messy and ugly...
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Reply #479 posted 04/02/18 4:09pm

morningsong

PeteSilas said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

That's not true though. Tyka said in the ET interview with Kevin Frazier. That SHE had two years to deal with thinking Prince was going to die soon. The Enquirer tried to turn it around like she was confirming the AIDS story which was TOTALLY false. Tyka NEVER confirmed Prince had AIDS.

Why bring those MESSY,LYING, scandalous tabloids on this thread??? mad

because tabloids usually have someone close to a star. chick sold our man out in the eighties for a quick fix.



Wrong sister, he had 4 of them, and it's been repeated several times over the past 2 years which sister it was, yet people keep pulling Tyka for some reason. And you've been here so I don't know why you haven't gotten straight yet unless you simply just don't want to which means telling you again would be a waste of time.

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