http://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=top_tallies&ttt=TAA#search_section

Why isn't Prince in this list ?!?!?! Didn't he have at least 40 million sales in US ?

[Edited 3/25/18 13:07pm]

saintmont said:

http://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=top_tallies&ttt=TAA#search_section

Why isn't Prince in this list ?!?!?! Didn't he have at least 40 million sales in US ?

[Edited 3/25/18 13:07pm]

This list is very outdated, and I'm talking in terms of Prince's sales... The main issue is the record company or also the artist to "audit" for the sales, especially for updates of the sales. Keep in mind many of his albums were out of print and because of his war with his record contract and these weird one off deals like with Emancipation, NPS, Musicology, 3121, etc... All of those are out of print...

Many of his best selling albums have never been recertified. As I stated in many threads discussing sales, an album like Purple Rain was last certified in 1996 with 13 Million copies sold... Now 22 years later and with the passing of Prince, I am sure that 13 Million is much more higher now, but has yet to be recertified. It is the record companies job or in this case the estate if they care to check and audit those records to get new recertifications. Michael Jackson's BAD just got recertified as Diamond a few years ago, but those record labels and estate check, something which i doubt Prince really cared about... The only time I heard him care about sales was in two cases, one when he mentioned on the Tavis Smiley show he wanted to audit Purple Rain because he thinks the numbers are far higher, and two was the comment about how he felt soundscan didn't count all the numbers for Lotusflow3r when he landed at #2.

Now in terms of the position the RIAA has Prince with 20.5 sales, I don't think it has been updated, and is that counting single sales as well or just album sales??

Just with the officiall RIAA certifications we know:

PRINCE - 1 MILLION

DIRTY MIND - GOLD (500,000)

CONTROVERSY - 1 MILLION

1999 - 4 MILLION

PURPLE RAIN - 13 MILLION

ATWIAD - 2 MILLION

PARADE - 1 MILLION

SOTT - 1 MILLION

LOVESEXY - (700,000)

BATMAN - 2 MILLION

GRAFFITI BRIDGE - GOLD (500,000)

D&P - 2 MILLION

LOVE SYMBOL - 1 MILLION

THE HITS 1 - 1 MILLION

THE HITS 2 - 1 MILLION

THE HITS THE B-SIDES - 1 MILLION

COME - GOLD (500,000)

GOLD - GOLD (500,000)

EMANCIPATION - 2 MILLION (Certified as 2x Platinum counting 3 disks, exact sales are over 700,000)

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC - GOLD (500,000)

THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE - 2 MILLION

MUSICOLOGY - 2 MILLION

3121 - GOLD (500,000)

** PURPLE RAIN should stand over 13 million sales by now, and THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE should be over 3 million by now, those are the two albums that have sold the most since his death and have yet to be recertified.

Just with that list, not including all his other albums he made the sales are over 41 Million... So obviously the RIAA page is not correct.

If you combine the rest of all the other albums his sales in the U.S. alone is around the 50 million mark. World wide it is over 100 million.

[Edited 3/25/18 13:45pm]

His top selling albums in the U.S. are:

1. PURPLE RAIN: Over 13 million

2. 1999: 4 million

3. THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE: Over 3 million

Just with those 3 albums it's already over the number the RIAA has for Prince, so it's clear the RIAA has posted the incorrect numbers.

feeluupp said:

His top selling albums in the U.S. are:

1. PURPLE RAIN: Over 13 million

2. 1999: 4 million

3. THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE: Over 3 million

Just with those 3 albums it's already over the number the RIAA has for Prince, so it's clear the RIAA has posted the incorrect numbers.

Thanks !

I was trying to contact RIAA about it and wanted to ask them about this.

They don't seem to have a contact address or email

Not surprised. His sales were fair-to-middling for the better part of 30 years.

It is kinda weird - they have his total at 20.5 million - but then if you add up the individual entries they have for him, it's over that. Maybe there's some fine print we're not seeing. Either way, does it matter?

All I know is that I bought everything. That's really all that matters.

skywalker said:

Something is wrong with this list. He is easily one of the best selling of all time as his album sales worldwide are north of 100million

Yes the list is incorrect, but don't forget it is RIAA meaning U.S. sales only...

If you add the world wide sales totals just for his top selling albums:

1999 - 6 million

PURPLE RAIN - 21 million

BATMAN - 4 million

D&P - 6 million

THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE - 4 million

... it's over 41 million... add all his other albums it's close to 100 million.

skywalker said:

Something is wrong with this list. He is easily one of the best selling of all time as his album sales worldwide are north of 100million

Exactly. Could even be more when you include the after death sales, and when you talk about records you have to include singles too... Don't forget singles like When Doves Cry, Kiss, Purple Rain, etc... All sold over 1 million copies each...

Business Insider listed his sales over 100 million in an article published June 2017, and making him one of the top selling artists world wide.

I wish the RIAA numbers were updated because I truely believe if everything was accounted for and his albums got recertified he would be in the TOP 10 for U.S. sales with over 50 million sold...

Even though his sales were inconsistent in the U.S. People forget that the world wide total was very consistent from the mid 80's through the early 90's...

Don't forget his world wide totals for his albums were all million plus sellers:

CONTROVERSY - 2 million

1999- 6 million

PURPLE RAIN - 21 million

ATWIAD - 3 million

PARADE - 4 million

SOTT - 4 million

LOVESEXY - 2 million

BATMAN - 4 million

GRAFFITI BRIDGE - 2 million

DIAMONDS & PEARLS - 6 million

LOVE SYMBOL - 2 million

feeluupp said:

Even though his sales were inconsistent in the U.S. People forget that the world wide total was very consistent from the mid 80's through the early 90's...

Don't forget his world wide totals for his albums were all million plus sellers:

CONTROVERSY - 2 million

1999- 6 million

PURPLE RAIN - 21 million

ATWIAD - 3 million

PARADE - 4 million

SOTT - 4 million

LOVESEXY - 2 million

BATMAN - 4 million

GRAFFITI BRIDGE - 2 million

DIAMONDS & PEARLS - 6 million

LOVE SYMBOL - 2 million

I think it depends on what exactly is being measured. Business Insider has a list of the top 50 best-selling musicians based on album sales, and Prince is #43.

The 50 best-selling music artists of all time

By John Lynch

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-selling-music-artists-of-all-time-2016-9

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Having said that, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Diamonds and Pearls, which is one of Prince's best-selling albums, is out-of-print.

posted earlier, - figures are from 2008?

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source: "the Org somewhere"..





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Year - Album - Worldwide estimated sales = USA estimated sales + International (outside US) estimated sales


.

The 70's + 80's


.
1978 For You 930,000 = 550,000 + 380,000
1979 Prince 1,950,000 = 1,500,000 + 450,000
1980 Dirty Mind 2,015,000 = 1,085,000 + 930,000
1981 Controversy 2,650,000 = 1,550,000 + 1,100,000
1982 1999 6,075,000 = 4,320,000 + 1,755,000
1984 Purple Rain 19,880,000 = 14,480,000 + 5,400,000
1985 Around The World In A Day 4,585,000 = 2,845,000 + 1,740,000
1986 Parade 4,155,000 = 2,105,000 + 2,050,000
1987 Sign Of The Times 4,025,000 = 1,840,000 + 2,185,000
1988 Lovesexy 2,825,000 = 960,000 + 1,865,000
1989 Batman (Soundtrack) 4,790,000 = 2,500,000 + 2,290,000
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Total 70's + 80's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
53,880,000 = 33,735,000 + 20,145,000
.
The 90's
.
1990 Graffiti Bridge 2,305,000 = 980,000 + 1,325,000
1991 Diamonds & Pearls 6,450,000 = 2,780,000 + 3,670,000
1992 Symbol 2,700,000 = 1,100,000 + 1,600,000
1993 The Hits/The B-Sides 1,000,000 = 650,000 + 350,000
1993 The Hits 1 2,750,000 = 2,000,000 + 750,000
1993 The Hits 2 2,250,000 = 1,750,000 + 500,000
1994 Come 1,000,000 = 500,000 + 500,000
1994 The Black Album 575,000 = 275,000 + 300,000
1995 The Gold Experience 900,000 = 550,000 + 350,000
1996 Chaos & Disorder 350,000 = 150,000 + 200,000
1996 Emancipation 1,200,000 = 700,000 + 500,000
1998 Crystal Ball 275,000 = 125,000 + 150,000
1998 Newpower Soul 425,000 = 225,000 + 200,000
1999 The Vault 250,000 = 125,000 + 125,000
1999 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 750,000 = 500,000 + 250,000
.
Total 90's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
23,180,000 = 12,410,000 + 10,770,000
.
The 00's
.
2001 The Very Best Of Prince 2,000,000 = 1,300,000 + 700,000
2001 The Rainbow Children 300,000 = 175,000 + 125,000
2004 Musicology 1,500,000 = 1,000,000 + 500,000 (concert sales NOT included)
.
(add 3121, Planet Earth, Lotus, MPLSound, let's say 1,5 / 2 millions)
.
Total 00's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
3,800,000 = 2,475,000 + 1,325,000
.
Total (Estimated) Career All-Time Album Sales Worldwide:
.
80,860,000 = 48,620,000 + 32,240,000
.
.
Wikipedia:
.
- 1 billion records or more:
.
The Beatles
Elvis Presley
.
- 500 million to 999 million records:
.
Bing Crosby
Michael Jackson
.
- 200 million to 499 million records:
.
AC/DC
A. R. Rahman (India)
ABBA
Alla Pugacheva (Rusia)
Bee Gees
Bob Marley
Celine Dion
Cliff Richard
The Drifters
Elton John
Herbert von Karajan (Austria)
Julio Iglesias
Led Zeppelin
Madonna
Mariah Carey
Nana Mouskouri (Grecia/Francia)
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
Tino Rossi (Francia)
Wei Wei (China)
.
- 100 million to 199 million records:
.
Adriano Calentano (Italia)
Aerosmith
Backstreet Boys
Barry White
Billy Joel
Bon Jovi
Boney M (Alemania)
The Carpenters
Charles Aznavour
Cher
Chicago
Dave Clark Five
David Bowie
Deep Purple
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
Dolly Parton
The Eagles
Electric Light Orchestra
Engelbert Humperdnicks (USA/UK)
Fats Domino
Fleetwood Mac
The Four Seasons
Frank Sinatra
Garth Brooks
Genesis
George Michael
Guns N' Roses
Iron Maiden
James Last (Alemania)
The Jackson 5
Janet Jackson
Johnny Hallyday (Francia)
Kenny Rogers
Lionel Richie
Luciano Pavarotti
Michiya Mihashi (Japón)
Mireille Mathieu (Francia)
Modern Talking
Neil Diamond
Olivia Newton-John
Patti Page
Paul McCartney
Perry Como (USA)
Pet Shop Boys
Phil Collins
Prince
Queen
Ricky Nelson
Roberto Carlos
Rod Stewart
Salvatore Adamo (Bélgica)
Status Quo
Stevie Wonder
Teresa Teng (Taiwán)
Tina Turner
Tom Jones
U2
Valeriya (Rusia)
The Ventures
Whitney Houston
The Who
.
.
.
French magazine:
.
1 - Beatles = 346.500.000 (12/2007)
2 - Michael Jackson = 205.500.000 (09/2008)
3 - Pink Floyd = 193.700.000 (02/2008)
4 - Madonna = 188.500.000 (01/2008)
5 - Elvis Presley = 187.000.000
6 - Elton John = 177.200.000 (01/2008)
7 - Queen = 170.100.000 (09/2008)
8 - Rolling Stones = 169.100.000
9 - U2 = 166.400.000 (02/2008)
10 - Led Zeppelin = 165.500.000 (01/2008)
11 - Celine Dion = 163.000.000 (12/2007)
12 - Eagles = 147.800.000 (12/2007)
13 - Mariah Carey = 147.800.000 (12/2007)
14 - Rod Stewart = 140.100.000 (03/2008)
15 - Barbra Streisand= 139.800.000 (02/2008)
16 - Whitney Houston = 134.200.000 (12/2007)
17 - AC/DC = 133.700.000 (11/2007)
18 - Garth Brooks = 131.900.000 (02/2008)
19 - Bruce Springsteen = 130.900.000 (02/2008)
20 - Eric Clapton = 129.000.000 (02/2008)
21 - Billy Joel = 124.500.000 (12/2007)
22 - Bee Gees = 122.100.000 (12/2007)
23 - Phil Collins = 122.000.000 (12/2007)
24 - Bob Dylan = 119.800.000 (12/2007)
25 - Fleetwood Mac = 118.100.000 (12/2007)
26 - Santana - 117.700.000 (03/2008)
27 - Neil Diamond = 117.300.000 (02/2008)
28 - Aerosmith = 113.500.000 (11/2007)
29 - Bon Jovi = 107.200.000 (12/2007)
30 - Simon and Garfunkel = 105.100.000 (03/2008)
31 - ABBA = 104.200.000 (09/2007)
32 - Paul McCartney - 103.700.000 (02/2008)
33 - Dire Straits = 102.800.000 (12/2007)
34 - Metallica - 102.500.000 (01/2008)
35 - Prince = 99.900.000 (02/2008)
36 - Genesis = 98.000.000 (12/2007)
37 - David Bowie = 95.700.000 (12/2007)
38 - Van Halen = 94.000.000 (02/2008)
39 - Guns N' Roses = 93.200.000 (12/2007)
40 - Kenny Rogers = 90.400.000 (02/2008)
41 - The Doors = 89.700.000 (01/2008)
42 - Julio Iglesias = 89.500.000 (03/2008)
43 - Stevie Wonder= 87.100.000 (03/2008)
44 - Bob Marley = 86.600.000 (01/2008)
45 - Backstreet Boys = 85.900.000 (02/2008)
46 - R.E.M. = 83.800.000 (02/2008)
47 - Eminem = 83.400.000 (12/2007)
48 - Neil Young = 79.900.000 (06/2008)
49 - Enya = 78.300.000 (12/2007)
50 - Kenny G = 77.900.000 (03/2008)

thedance said:

posted earlier, - figures are from 2008?

.


source: "the Org somewhere"..





.


Year - Album - Worldwide estimated sales = USA estimated sales + International (outside US) estimated sales


.

The 70's + 80's


.
1978 For You 930,000 = 550,000 + 380,000
1979 Prince 1,950,000 = 1,500,000 + 450,000
1980 Dirty Mind 2,015,000 = 1,085,000 + 930,000
1981 Controversy 2,650,000 = 1,550,000 + 1,100,000
1982 1999 6,075,000 = 4,320,000 + 1,755,000
1984 Purple Rain 19,880,000 = 14,480,000 + 5,400,000
1985 Around The World In A Day 4,585,000 = 2,845,000 + 1,740,000
1986 Parade 4,155,000 = 2,105,000 + 2,050,000
1987 Sign Of The Times 4,025,000 = 1,840,000 + 2,185,000
1988 Lovesexy 2,825,000 = 960,000 + 1,865,000
1989 Batman (Soundtrack) 4,790,000 = 2,500,000 + 2,290,000
.
Total 70's + 80's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
53,880,000 = 33,735,000 + 20,145,000
.
The 90's
.
1990 Graffiti Bridge 2,305,000 = 980,000 + 1,325,000
1991 Diamonds & Pearls 6,450,000 = 2,780,000 + 3,670,000
1992 Symbol 2,700,000 = 1,100,000 + 1,600,000
1993 The Hits/The B-Sides 1,000,000 = 650,000 + 350,000
1993 The Hits 1 2,750,000 = 2,000,000 + 750,000
1993 The Hits 2 2,250,000 = 1,750,000 + 500,000
1994 Come 1,000,000 = 500,000 + 500,000
1994 The Black Album 575,000 = 275,000 + 300,000
1995 The Gold Experience 900,000 = 550,000 + 350,000
1996 Chaos & Disorder 350,000 = 150,000 + 200,000
1996 Emancipation 1,200,000 = 700,000 + 500,000
1998 Crystal Ball 275,000 = 125,000 + 150,000
1998 Newpower Soul 425,000 = 225,000 + 200,000
1999 The Vault 250,000 = 125,000 + 125,000
1999 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 750,000 = 500,000 + 250,000
.
Total 90's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
23,180,000 = 12,410,000 + 10,770,000
.
The 00's
.
2001 The Very Best Of Prince 2,000,000 = 1,300,000 + 700,000
2001 The Rainbow Children 300,000 = 175,000 + 125,000
2004 Musicology 1,500,000 = 1,000,000 + 500,000 (concert sales NOT included)
.
(add 3121, Planet Earth, Lotus, MPLSound, let's say 1,5 / 2 millions)
.
Total 00's estimated worldwide all-time sales:
3,800,000 = 2,475,000 + 1,325,000
.
Total (Estimated) Career All-Time Album Sales Worldwide:
.
80,860,000 = 48,620,000 + 32,240,000
.
.
Wikipedia:
.
- 1 billion records or more:
.
The Beatles
Elvis Presley
.
- 500 million to 999 million records:
.
Bing Crosby
Michael Jackson
.
- 200 million to 499 million records:
.
AC/DC
A. R. Rahman (India)
ABBA
Alla Pugacheva (Rusia)
Bee Gees
Bob Marley
Celine Dion
Cliff Richard
The Drifters
Elton John
Herbert von Karajan (Austria)
Julio Iglesias
Led Zeppelin
Madonna
Mariah Carey
Nana Mouskouri (Grecia/Francia)
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
Tino Rossi (Francia)
Wei Wei (China)
.
- 100 million to 199 million records:
.
Adriano Calentano (Italia)
Aerosmith
Backstreet Boys
Barry White
Billy Joel
Bon Jovi
Boney M (Alemania)
The Carpenters
Charles Aznavour
Cher
Chicago
Dave Clark Five
David Bowie
Deep Purple
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
Dolly Parton
The Eagles
Electric Light Orchestra
Engelbert Humperdnicks (USA/UK)
Fats Domino
Fleetwood Mac
The Four Seasons
Frank Sinatra
Garth Brooks
Genesis
George Michael
Guns N' Roses
Iron Maiden
James Last (Alemania)
The Jackson 5
Janet Jackson
Johnny Hallyday (Francia)
Kenny Rogers
Lionel Richie
Luciano Pavarotti
Michiya Mihashi (Japón)
Mireille Mathieu (Francia)
Modern Talking
Neil Diamond
Olivia Newton-John
Patti Page
Paul McCartney
Perry Como (USA)
Pet Shop Boys
Phil Collins
Prince
Queen
Ricky Nelson
Roberto Carlos
Rod Stewart
Salvatore Adamo (Bélgica)
Status Quo
Stevie Wonder
Teresa Teng (Taiwán)
Tina Turner
Tom Jones
U2
Valeriya (Rusia)
The Ventures
Whitney Houston
The Who
.
.
.
French magazine:
.
1 - Beatles = 346.500.000 (12/2007)
2 - Michael Jackson = 205.500.000 (09/2008)
3 - Pink Floyd = 193.700.000 (02/2008)
4 - Madonna = 188.500.000 (01/2008)
5 - Elvis Presley = 187.000.000
6 - Elton John = 177.200.000 (01/2008)
7 - Queen = 170.100.000 (09/2008)
8 - Rolling Stones = 169.100.000
9 - U2 = 166.400.000 (02/2008)
10 - Led Zeppelin = 165.500.000 (01/2008)
11 - Celine Dion = 163.000.000 (12/2007)
12 - Eagles = 147.800.000 (12/2007)
13 - Mariah Carey = 147.800.000 (12/2007)
14 - Rod Stewart = 140.100.000 (03/2008)
15 - Barbra Streisand= 139.800.000 (02/2008)
16 - Whitney Houston = 134.200.000 (12/2007)
17 - AC/DC = 133.700.000 (11/2007)
18 - Garth Brooks = 131.900.000 (02/2008)
19 - Bruce Springsteen = 130.900.000 (02/2008)
20 - Eric Clapton = 129.000.000 (02/2008)
21 - Billy Joel = 124.500.000 (12/2007)
22 - Bee Gees = 122.100.000 (12/2007)
23 - Phil Collins = 122.000.000 (12/2007)
24 - Bob Dylan = 119.800.000 (12/2007)
25 - Fleetwood Mac = 118.100.000 (12/2007)
26 - Santana - 117.700.000 (03/2008)
27 - Neil Diamond = 117.300.000 (02/2008)
28 - Aerosmith = 113.500.000 (11/2007)
29 - Bon Jovi = 107.200.000 (12/2007)
30 - Simon and Garfunkel = 105.100.000 (03/2008)
31 - ABBA = 104.200.000 (09/2007)
32 - Paul McCartney - 103.700.000 (02/2008)
33 - Dire Straits = 102.800.000 (12/2007)
34 - Metallica - 102.500.000 (01/2008)
35 - Prince = 99.900.000 (02/2008)
36 - Genesis = 98.000.000 (12/2007)
37 - David Bowie = 95.700.000 (12/2007)
38 - Van Halen = 94.000.000 (02/2008)
39 - Guns N' Roses = 93.200.000 (12/2007)
40 - Kenny Rogers = 90.400.000 (02/2008)
41 - The Doors = 89.700.000 (01/2008)
42 - Julio Iglesias = 89.500.000 (03/2008)
43 - Stevie Wonder= 87.100.000 (03/2008)
44 - Bob Marley = 86.600.000 (01/2008)
45 - Backstreet Boys = 85.900.000 (02/2008)
46 - R.E.M. = 83.800.000 (02/2008)
47 - Eminem = 83.400.000 (12/2007)
48 - Neil Young = 79.900.000 (06/2008)
49 - Enya = 78.300.000 (12/2007)
50 - Kenny G = 77.900.000 (03/2008)

very inaccurate sales figures from the 2008 post... i posted the accurate numbers many times on this site

^ Hey FeelUuP...


ok.. thanks...



at least the OP is totally wrong then..

Yet, who and where are those 77M fools who purchased a Kenny G record?

I'm pretty sure I've never met anyone in my life who's purchased a Kenny G record. I can't imagine anyone I know ever doing such a thing.

Those figures are scary

databank said:

Yet, who and where are those 77M fools who purchased a Kenny G record?

I'm pretty sure I've never met anyone in my life who's purchased a Kenny G record. I can't imagine anyone I know ever doing such a thing.

Those figures are scary

I love Kenny G! We are both Seattle natives! I don't own any of his albums, but I'm familiar with quite a few of his songs.

206Michelle said:

databank said:

Yet, who and where are those 77M fools who purchased a Kenny G record?

I'm pretty sure I've never met anyone in my life who's purchased a Kenny G record. I can't imagine anyone I know ever doing such a thing.

Those figures are scary

I love Kenny G! We are both Seattle natives! I don't own any of his albums, but I'm familiar with quite a few of his songs.

I may have missed hidden gems but everything I've heard so far was soulless, generic, sterilized music that was seeminly put together in the sole hope of selling records to bored, lonely and uneducated 50+ years-old housewifes.

But then again, maybe there are better things he did I'm not aware of.

databank said:

206Michelle said:

I love Kenny G! We are both Seattle natives! I don't own any of his albums, but I'm familiar with quite a few of his songs.

I may have missed hidden gems but everything I've heard so far was soulless, generic, sterilized music that was seeminly put together in the sole hope of selling records to bored, lonely and uneducated 50+ years-old housewifes.

But then again, maybe there are better things he did I'm not aware of.

Sounds like PLANET EARTH to me

Prince is listed twice in that list: Prince = 20.5 million and Prince & The Revolution = 16 million. If you merge these two entries, you get a total of 36.5 million units. So Prince should be at position #44. Not bad.

[Edited 4/1/18 8:42am]

Whoever compiled the data should be fired.

feeluupp said:

databank said:

I may have missed hidden gems but everything I've heard so far was soulless, generic, sterilized music that was seeminly put together in the sole hope of selling records to bored, lonely and uneducated 50+ years-old housewifes.

But then again, maybe there are better things he did I'm not aware of.

Sounds like PLANET EARTH to me

Not in the least. And God knows PE is one of my least favorite Prince records and that I see many flaws in it as a whole. Regardless, it's still very typically Prince for the most part, and in that sense quite idiosyncratic. Even if some songs tend to try and be something outside of P's typical sound palette, none of it is generic or sterilized the way (what I know of) Kenny G's music can be.

I mean, let's remember what we're talking about before making hasty comparisons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DkLTV0GccY

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOO4ROO_sPM

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGHnB8epj54

Prince couldn't do anything that generic even if he'd try

.

While searching those vids I ran into that, though, it was pretty cool, so OK 206Michelle, I'll admit that Kenny G may have done some stuff that's better than what I'd heard so far: https://www.youtube.com/w...8TjTTxJuK4

^ Please note that I'm not doubting Kenny G.'s talent as a musician, I know he comes from Barry White's crew and all, and you don't reach that level of success without hard work. What I question is the motives behind his work, as in did he ever care for music as art or did he just do what the record company told him would sell, for the mere purpose of making millions?

I understand that everyone has to take one's chance, but I think those people making easy-listening crap with no other agenda than money are doing a lot of harm to real artists, and even to some extent to the audience they contribute to debilitate instead of educate.

Now IDK anything about Kenny G, for all I knew he's the sweetest guy. I'm not throwing accusations at him, just questioning certain politics of the music industry that Kenny G., without doubt, was instrumental in implementing for most of his solo career.

feeluupp said:

databank said:

I may have missed hidden gems but everything I've heard so far was soulless, generic, sterilized music that was seeminly put together in the sole hope of selling records to bored, lonely and uneducated 50+ years-old housewifes.

But then again, maybe there are better things he did I'm not aware of.

Sounds like PLANET EARTH to me

Planet Earth is nostalgic, a beacon to environmental preservation, & good vibes. If you dont like that, & the accompanying music, then OK.

>

Kenny G. has been panned by Pat Metheny, but praised by Miles Davis, so go figure.

>

Kenny G.'s "Songbird" is a quiet storm classic. Whattaya gonna do?

[Edited 4/1/18 10:04am]

databank said:

feeluupp said:

Sounds like PLANET EARTH to me

Not in the least. And God knows PE is one of my least favorite Prince records and that I see many flaws in it as a whole. Regardless, it's still very typically Prince for the most part, and in that sense quite idiosyncratic. Even if some songs tend to try and be something outside of P's typical sound palette, none of it is generic or sterilized the way (what I know of) Kenny G's music can be.

I mean, let's remember what we're talking about before making hasty comparisons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DkLTV0GccY

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOO4ROO_sPM

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGHnB8epj54

Prince couldn't do anything that generic even if he'd try

.

While searching those vids I ran into that, though, it was pretty cool, so OK 206Michelle, I'll admit that Kenny G may have done some stuff that's better than what I'd heard so far: https://www.youtube.com/w...8TjTTxJuK4

Flaws in PE? What was the album supposed to be? Critics are so awesome--maybe there is some stuff that you don't like that was put in there. I'd accept that statement.

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Music laid down on this album is outide of Prince's sound palette of pop, rock, funk & soul? Which songs, or which part of one?

>

At any rate, the album wasn't a high-seller, but unlessucare about those figures.

Germanegro said:

Kenny G. has been panned by Pat Metheny, but praised by Miles Davis, so go figure.

I don't think so.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/...s_kenny_g/

Germanegro said:

feeluupp said:

Sounds like PLANET EARTH to me

Planet Earth is nostalgic, a beacon to environmental preservation, & good vibes. If you dont like that, & the accompanying music, then OK.

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Kenny G. has been panned by Pat Metheny, but praised by Miles Davis, so go figure.

>

Kenny G.'s "Songbird" is a quiet storm classic. Whattaya gonna do?

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... Maybe that's why it puts me to sleep...

Germanegro said:

databank said:

Not in the least. And God knows PE is one of my least favorite Prince records and that I see many flaws in it as a whole. Regardless, it's still very typically Prince for the most part, and in that sense quite idiosyncratic. Even if some songs tend to try and be something outside of P's typical sound palette, none of it is generic or sterilized the way (what I know of) Kenny G's music can be.

I mean, let's remember what we're talking about before making hasty comparisons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DkLTV0GccY

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOO4ROO_sPM

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGHnB8epj54

Prince couldn't do anything that generic even if he'd try

.

While searching those vids I ran into that, though, it was pretty cool, so OK 206Michelle, I'll admit that Kenny G may have done some stuff that's better than what I'd heard so far: https://www.youtube.com/w...8TjTTxJuK4

Flaws in PE? What was the album supposed to be? Critics are so awesome--maybe there is some stuff that you don't like that was put in there. I'd accept that statement.

>

Music laid down on this album is outide of Prince's sound palette of pop, rock, funk & soul? Which songs, or which part of one?

>

At any rate, the album wasn't a high-seller, but unlessucare about those figures.

Relax, dude, it's me.

olb99 said:

Germanegro said:

Kenny G. has been panned by Pat Metheny, but praised by Miles Davis, so go figure.

I don't think so.

.

https://www.reddit.com/r/...s_kenny_g/

Naw. You've only posted a thread to a photo basically reduced to a meme that many people are commenting on. I've read comments from Davis himself in one musician mag that I cannot find to post here, but there is this: http://articles.latimes.c...sax-player. It comes from Kenny G. himself, but he quotes to the L.A. Times while Davis was still around--he wouldn't lie in that case.