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Reply #1170 posted 03/01/18 2:35pm

PeteSilas

y'all, i do believe that there can be a psychic connection between family members I really do. I had it with my sister and many parents have it with their kids but Tyka is so wierd it's hard to even read.

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Reply #1171 posted 03/01/18 3:33pm

XxAxX

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laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

Has there ever been any official remark about the video cameras being removed, or the statement of Prince telling people to come get their stuff?

I ask because I thought the Sheriff for Carver County said in a press conference that they were reviewing video. I could have mistaken his comments on this. I thought he said that initially after Prince passed.

The comments about the cameras being gone came from Charles. There are screen shots from social media of two horn plyers who were told to get their stuff about a week before he died as they might not be able to get their stuff later.

sorry i'm late but that bolded part is verrry interesting

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Reply #1172 posted 03/01/18 3:34pm

XxAxX

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laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

he had just accidentally OD'd on a plane, i think if he thought that business might even

slightly happen again, he wasn't gonna have the likes of us seeing it.

If he stayed in the hospital no one would have saw anything. He choose to go home and I am sure those cameras were not removed over night.



it just seems...planned?

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Reply #1173 posted 03/01/18 3:36pm

PeteSilas

that's what some of us think of as a possibility.

XxAxX said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said: If he stayed in the hospital no one would have saw anything. He choose to go home and I am sure those cameras were not removed over night.



it just seems...planned?

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Reply #1174 posted 03/01/18 3:37pm

XxAxX

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay......Let's supposed Prince had the security camera's removed days or weeks prior to his passing. Don't you think someone would have took notice of that?? confused

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Gee, Prince......where did the security camera's go? confused

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So, did Andrew just waltz right past the security gates and show up at Prince's door, unannounced, with a backpack of pills? Oh right........there was no security there to stop him. eek

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I'm being sarcastic here to try and prove my point.

Andrew was picked up by Kirk and there was no security working at PP. Remember everyone was given the week off except Meron and Kirk.

Prince owns the building he does not have to explain why the cameras are being moved to anyone

!! too weird

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Reply #1175 posted 03/01/18 3:44pm

PennyPurple

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XxAxX said:

laurarichardson said:

Andrew was picked up by Kirk and there was no security working at PP. Remember everyone was given the week off except Meron and Kirk.

Prince owns the building he does not have to explain why the cameras are being moved to anyone

!! too weird

Wait a minute....I've not heard that Kirk picked up Andrew, I thought Andrew arrived by taxi.

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Reply #1176 posted 03/01/18 3:47pm

cloveringold85

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Were the Rx bottles found at PP ever fingerprinted?

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Why was Prince's laptop moved? Who was the person who updated his Twitter account after he died?

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Why were his clothes on backwards?

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The Walgreen's security camera footage -- where is it? This would show proof that Prince was there.

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Was there anyone else besides Prince on the evening of April 20th, leading into the morning of April 21st? Was Prince all alone?

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Kirk let Andrew (Dr. Kornfeld's son) into PP. Kirk has full-access to Paisley Park, 24/7.

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Reply #1177 posted 03/01/18 3:49pm

XxAxX

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cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said: He did not say what he was told other then the cameras being gone and having spoken to the EMT who took his body out. I find it interesting that this concerning you but unnamed sources talking to the media about the case or TMZ does not seem to bother some of you.

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We have no proof that an EMT took Prince's body out of the building. There is no footage of his body being removed from PP.

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His body should have been removed by the Coroner, since his death was not a witnessed death and there was an investigation going on.

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You don't see all the [b]strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death?[/] Do you think that a proper investigation has taken place? I sure don't.

and then some. i wish we could all get closure on this.

btw you guys are all really good at this investigative journalism stuff. thanks from me to everyone on this thread who has taken the time to post links and info, i could never keep up by myself.

the non-functioning security system/cameras just doesn't feel right. Prince always had security cameras on, i mean he had those big signs warning people at the door for dance parties.

and we know he was working on turning the place into a museum - wouldn't this have required him to create more security/surveillance points instead of less? i do not see Prince himself turning off the surveillance.

then again it is possible that in an act of mercy the footage was lost by someone in order to erase the record of Prince's last moments so TMZ can never get their hands on it... i really do not know.

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Reply #1178 posted 03/01/18 3:49pm

cloveringold85

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purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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To be honest, you don't know either, unless you were sitting right beside Prince when he sent that e-mail to Tyka.

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The autopsy report did not say he had any other illness. He died from Fentanyl, and nothing else.

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It's perplexing to me why you blindly believe anything Tyka says, just because she is/was Prince's sister. hmmm

for me i don't blanketly distrust her on what she has(n't) said either. it is "stuff" she has said in reality, just stuff. i feel like we all are waiting for her to say SOMETHING and when she does

she's greeted with name calling. She has watched the machine of fame from the sidelines for a longtime she just might know a thing or two about self perservation. But i get wanting to know

what happened, but because it really is non of our business, i don't think the name calling and

ridicule is fair. ya know what i am saying???

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I have not called Tyka any names. I just don't appreciate her cryptic messages and half-truths. Her behavior is odd, to say the least.

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Reply #1179 posted 03/01/18 3:54pm

XxAxX

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cloveringold85 said:

Were the Rx bottles found at PP ever fingerprinted?

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Why was Prince's laptop moved? Who was the person who updated his Twitter account after he died?

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Why were his clothes on backwards?

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The Walgreen's security camera footage -- where is it? This would show proof that Prince was there.

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Was there anyone else besides Prince on the evening of April 20th, leading into the morning of April 21st? Was Prince all alone?

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Kirk let Andrew (Dr. Kornfeld's son) into PP. Kirk has full-access to Paisley Park, 24/7.



sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose

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Reply #1180 posted 03/01/18 4:03pm

cloveringold85

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XxAxX said:

cloveringold85 said:

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We have no proof that an EMT took Prince's body out of the building. There is no footage of his body being removed from PP.

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His body should have been removed by the Coroner, since his death was not a witnessed death and there was an investigation going on.

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You don't see all the [b]strange circumstances surrounding Prince's death?[/] Do you think that a proper investigation has taken place? I sure don't.

and then some. i wish we could all get closure on this.

btw you guys are all really good at this investigative journalism stuff. thanks from me to everyone on this thread who has taken the time to post links and info, i could never keep up by myself.

the non-functioning security system/cameras just doesn't feel right. Prince always had security cameras on, i mean he had those big signs warning people at the door for dance parties.

and we know he was working on turning the place into a museum - wouldn't this have required him to create more security/surveillance points instead of less? i do not see Prince himself turning off the surveillance.

then again it is possible that in an act of mercy the footage was lost by someone in order to erase the record of Prince's last moments so TMZ can never get their hands on it... i really do not know.

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You raise some very good questions, as well. wink

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I could see maybe the camera's/security malfunctioning or something like that, but why on April 20-21st of all days? But, I just don't see Prince as having them physically removed--PP is a 60,000 SF facility -- that would take a lot of time to remove all of those cameras and would come at a big expense. And you're right -- if Prince was planning on turning PP into a museum (and I heard that he was planning on building/living in another home)--then, he surely would not have the camera's removed. Prince's entire life was in Paisley Park and I don't think for one second that he would spend any amount of time there, not feeling secure and safe!!

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Like you said, how do we know if there was footage of someone inside PP, besides Prince and the recording was erased? I'm sure the investigator's have all of this knowledge about the camera's. When Sheriff Olson was questioned on the camera's, he really did not want to comment -- why? He didn't say if they had surveillance footage or not. confused

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Reply #1181 posted 03/01/18 4:07pm

cloveringold85

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XxAxX said:

cloveringold85 said:

Were the Rx bottles found at PP ever fingerprinted?

.

Why was Prince's laptop moved? Who was the person who updated his Twitter account after he died?

.

Why were his clothes on backwards?

.

The Walgreen's security camera footage -- where is it? This would show proof that Prince was there.

.

Was there anyone else besides Prince on the evening of April 20th, leading into the morning of April 21st? Was Prince all alone?

.

Kirk let Andrew (Dr. Kornfeld's son) into PP. Kirk has full-access to Paisley Park, 24/7.



sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose

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There are some people who believe Prince faked his death. But, the investigation has been very lengthy, and very expensive, not to mention what's going on with his siblings and his estate! I just don't think Prince would do that. I wish he was still here; living a happy & healthy life and doing what he loved doing; playing music and loving his fans. prince heart

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Reply #1182 posted 03/01/18 4:11pm

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Sheriff Olson was asked about the security system at PP:

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QUESTION: Sheriff, were there surveillance cameras at Paisley Park and do you have them?

OLSON: That is -- that will be part of the investigation. I don't want to comment on that right now.

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Full Transcripts can be read here....

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http://transcripts.cnn.co...cg.01.html

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Hmmm........WHY didn't Sheriff Olson want to comment on the security system? He did not specifically say if the camera's were turned-off and/or removed. Hmmm.... hmmm

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Just seems to me that the Carver County Sheriff wanted to pick and choose which questions they wanted to answer. I know they could not disclose very much, because it was a new investigation, but they could have at least been able to answer very basic questions, imo. confused

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Reply #1183 posted 03/01/18 6:07pm

purplemist7777

XxAxX said:



cloveringold85 said:


Were the Rx bottles found at PP ever fingerprinted?


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Why was Prince's laptop moved? Who was the person who updated his Twitter account after he died?


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Why were his clothes on backwards?


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The Walgreen's security camera footage -- where is it? This would show proof that Prince was there.


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Was there anyone else besides Prince on the evening of April 20th, leading into the morning of April 21st? Was Prince all alone?


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Kirk let Andrew (Dr. Kornfeld's son) into PP. Kirk has full-access to Paisley Park, 24/7.






sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose


There was a Blind Gossip posting on Feb 27 saying that Quincy Jones is saying in private that a male legend faked his passing so he could live in private and that he’s ready to make a comeback and Quincy is going to produce his album. Most guesses are MJ and Tupac but quite a few are Prince. We can only 🙏🏻
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Reply #1184 posted 03/01/18 6:17pm

PeteSilas

purplemist7777 said:

XxAxX said:



sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose

There was a Blind Gossip posting on Feb 27 saying that Quincy Jones is saying in private that a male legend faked his passing so he could live in private and that he’s ready to make a comeback and Quincy is going to produce his album. Most guesses are MJ and Tupac but quite a few are Prince. We can only 🙏🏻

oh hell no, now i doubt the bp aids story completely. prince wouldn't need or ever let q produce shit and mj and pac are deader than dead. nice thought though.

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Reply #1185 posted 03/01/18 6:18pm

PeteSilas

cloveringold85 said:

XxAxX said:



sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose

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There are some people who believe Prince faked his death. But, the investigation has been very lengthy, and very expensive, not to mention what's going on with his siblings and his estate! I just don't think Prince would do that. I wish he was still here; living a happy & healthy life and doing what he loved doing; playing music and loving his fans. prince heart

if he faked his death a lot of people would want to just kill him!

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Reply #1186 posted 03/01/18 6:48pm

purplefam99

cloveringold85 said:



purplefam99 said:




cloveringold85 said:



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To be honest, you don't know either, unless you were sitting right beside Prince when he sent that e-mail to Tyka.


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The autopsy report did not say he had any other illness. He died from Fentanyl, and nothing else.


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It's perplexing to me why you blindly believe anything Tyka says, just because she is/was Prince's sister. hmmm





for me i don't blanketly distrust her on what she has(n't) said either. it is "stuff" she has said in reality, just stuff. i feel like we all are waiting for her to say SOMETHING and when she does


she's greeted with name calling. She has watched the machine of fame from the sidelines for a longtime she just might know a thing or two about self perservation. But i get wanting to know


what happened, but because it really is non of our business, i don't think the name calling and


ridicule is fair. ya know what i am saying???




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I have not called Tyka any names. I just don't appreciate her cryptic messages and half-truths. Her behavior is odd, to say the least.





No I didn’t mean it to read as though you specifically were doing the name calling.
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Reply #1187 posted 03/01/18 9:01pm

Mumio

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cloveringold85 said:

Sheriff Olson was asked about the security system at PP:

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QUESTION: Sheriff, were there surveillance cameras at Paisley Park and do you have them?

OLSON: That is -- that will be part of the investigation. I don't want to comment on that right now.

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Full Transcripts can be read here....

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http://transcripts.cnn.co...cg.01.html

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Hmmm........WHY didn't Sheriff Olson want to comment on the security system? He did not specifically say if the camera's were turned-off and/or removed. Hmmm.... hmmm

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Just seems to me that the Carver County Sheriff wanted to pick and choose which questions they wanted to answer. I know they could not disclose very much, because it was a new investigation, but they could have at least been able to answer very basic questions, imo. confused




The other thing you should also consider is that there IS video of exactly what went down at the end, specifically allowed to protect against any of the crazy murder/poisoning theories against anyone out there. That could also explain why there's been no arrests made. If they were to find the person who made or sold the fentanyl to him they'd have a homicide charge. Doubt that will happen though.

Evidence suppression happens, it's not out of the realm of possiblity here.

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Reply #1188 posted 03/01/18 9:04pm

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PeteSilas said:

purplemist7777 said:

XxAxX said: There was a Blind Gossip posting on Feb 27 saying that Quincy Jones is saying in private that a male legend faked his passing so he could live in private and that he’s ready to make a comeback and Quincy is going to produce his album. Most guesses are MJ and Tupac but quite a few are Prince. We can only 🙏🏻

oh hell no, now i doubt the bp aids story completely. prince wouldn't need or ever let q produce shit and mj and pac are deader than dead. nice thought though.



That's how you know he wasn't talking about Prince.

As happy as I'd be to see him alive, I (and many others no doubt) would be furious at being put though the horrible grief process we've gone through for so long now. That would be cruel.

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Reply #1189 posted 03/01/18 9:16pm

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PeteSilas said:

that's what some of us think of as a possibility.

XxAxX said:



it just seems...planned?


yeahthat

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Reply #1190 posted 03/02/18 4:30am

1Sasha

Remember the movie "Eddie and the Cruisers?" Eddie faked his own death to get out of the music industry rat race. His body was never found. In Prince's case, someone was cremated. DNA was taken. If he did show up, there would be nothing to forgive. There would be only sheer joy.

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Reply #1191 posted 03/02/18 5:03am

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1Sasha said:

Remember the movie "Eddie and the Cruisers?" Eddie faked his own death to get out of the music industry rat race. His body was never found. In Prince's case, someone was cremated. DNA was taken. If he did show up, there would be nothing to forgive. There would be only sheer joy.



I do remember that movie and at the time I thought that was a mean thing to do. With no body found it left the possibility of him still being alive so there was hope there.

I'm happy that for some they'd be able to forget the last couple of years, but I'd have to wonder how and why it was okay to put so many people through all of that pain. I don't play with people's emotions like that and don't want anyone doing it to me either.

[Edited 3/2/18 5:04am]

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Reply #1192 posted 03/02/18 6:53am

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ndipity

Mumio said:


The other thing you should also consider is that there IS video of exactly what went down at the end, specifically allowed to protect against any of the crazy murder/poisoning theories against anyone out there. That could also explain why there's been no arrests made. If they were to find the person who made or sold the fentanyl to him they'd have a homicide charge. Doubt that will happen though.

Evidence suppression happens, it's not out of the realm of possiblity here.


'If dealer found he'll be charged'. Apart from that axiomatic statement, nothing relevant here, just a lot of hot air.

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Reply #1193 posted 03/02/18 9:05am

XxAxX

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PeteSilas said:



cloveringold85 said:




XxAxX said:





sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose



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There are some people who believe Prince faked his death. But, the investigation has been very lengthy, and very expensive, not to mention what's going on with his siblings and his estate! I just don't think Prince would do that. I wish he was still here; living a happy & healthy life and doing what he loved doing; playing music and loving his fans. prince heart



if he faked his death a lot of people would want to just kill him!



You think??? I think folks would be confused and maybe annoyed but mostly people would weep tears of joy if he magically came back i know i would
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Reply #1194 posted 03/02/18 11:13am

cloveringold85

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purplemist7777 said:

XxAxX said:



sigh Lord help me, i still cling to the notion that he faked his own death and went into treatment somewhere abroad. nuts sigh at any rate, if this were a movie, that's how i'd write the ending to all of this. smile

it's all very mysterious, just like Prince himself when he was alive rose

There was a Blind Gossip posting on Feb 27 saying that Quincy Jones is saying in private that a male legend faked his passing so he could live in private and that he’s ready to make a comeback and Quincy is going to produce his album. Most guesses are MJ and Tupac but quite a few are Prince. We can only 🙏🏻

.

But, it's against the law to fake your death.

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Reply #1195 posted 03/02/18 11:14am

cloveringold85

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purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have not called Tyka any names. I just don't appreciate her cryptic messages and half-truths. Her behavior is odd, to say the least.

No I didn’t mean it to read as though you specifically were doing the name calling.

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Okay, no problem. biggrin

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Reply #1196 posted 03/02/18 11:20am

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Mumio said:

cloveringold85 said:

Sheriff Olson was asked about the security system at PP:

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QUESTION: Sheriff, were there surveillance cameras at Paisley Park and do you have them?

OLSON: That is -- that will be part of the investigation. I don't want to comment on that right now.

.

.

Full Transcripts can be read here....

.

http://transcripts.cnn.co...cg.01.html

.

Hmmm........WHY didn't Sheriff Olson want to comment on the security system? He did not specifically say if the camera's were turned-off and/or removed. Hmmm.... hmmm

.

Just seems to me that the Carver County Sheriff wanted to pick and choose which questions they wanted to answer. I know they could not disclose very much, because it was a new investigation, but they could have at least been able to answer very basic questions, imo. confused




The other thing you should also consider is that there IS video of exactly what went down at the end, specifically allowed to protect against any of the crazy murder/poisoning theories against anyone out there. That could also explain why there's been no arrests made. If they were to find the person who made or sold the fentanyl to him they'd have a homicide charge. Doubt that will happen though.

Evidence suppression happens, it's not out of the realm of possiblity here.

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Soooo, you are saying that there IS in fact video footage?

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Another thing, Prince had a party at PP after the Moline incident, and I highly doubt he would have camera's removed and/or turned-off. That would be a liability, in the case something happened or someone got hurt on his premises. Prince wasn't stupid.

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I don't think they will find out who procured the Fentanyl. They would have known by now.

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Reply #1197 posted 03/02/18 11:22am

cloveringold85

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Mumio said:

1Sasha said:

Remember the movie "Eddie and the Cruisers?" Eddie faked his own death to get out of the music industry rat race. His body was never found. In Prince's case, someone was cremated. DNA was taken. If he did show up, there would be nothing to forgive. There would be only sheer joy.



I do remember that movie and at the time I thought that was a mean thing to do. With no body found it left the possibility of him still being alive so there was hope there.

I'm happy that for some they'd be able to forget the last couple of years, but I'd have to wonder how and why it was okay to put so many people through all of that pain. I don't play with people's emotions like that and don't want anyone doing it to me either.

[Edited 3/2/18 5:04am]

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Oh, I can assure you, A LOT of people would be PISSED!! mad

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Reply #1198 posted 03/02/18 11:35am

PennyPurple

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cloveringold85 said:

Mumio said:



I do remember that movie and at the time I thought that was a mean thing to do. With no body found it left the possibility of him still being alive so there was hope there.

I'm happy that for some they'd be able to forget the last couple of years, but I'd have to wonder how and why it was okay to put so many people through all of that pain. I don't play with people's emotions like that and don't want anyone doing it to me either.

[Edited 3/2/18 5:04am]

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Oh, I can assure you, A LOT of people would be PISSED!! mad

Pissed, but oh so happy.

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Reply #1199 posted 03/02/18 11:58am

PeteSilas

XxAxX said:

PeteSilas said:

if he faked his death a lot of people would want to just kill him!

You think??? I think folks would be confused and maybe annoyed but mostly people would weep tears of joy if he magically came back i know i would [Edited 3/2/18 9:07am]

i'd be pissed and happy at the same time. but I can't think like that, he's gone.

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Forums > Prince: Music and More > no murder charge likely in prince's death CBS news