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Reply #630 posted 02/09/18 10:10am

purplefam99

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

Clarification please if someone can do so: how did we go from hearing that the family members can't have access to the investigative files because the investigation is still open to saying that they don't know what the autopsy report said? Was it specifically noted somewhere that they don't know what is on the autopsy report and if so, would someone tell me where that was noted?

Thank you to whoever answers smile

I would hate to think that the family didn't get the full autopsy report. Maybe they did and it still showed that he died of nothing other then an accidental overdose. Could be the Drs in Moline that they will go after?? If the family doesn't know anymore than we do, no wonder they haven't came out said anything.

guess whoever said we don't know everything was really correct. People in glass houses...

Boy and just like her Brother, Tyka didnt let the hate penetrate. She always seemed to remain cool headed.

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Reply #631 posted 02/09/18 10:11am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Menes said:

Minnesota statute 13.825 Subd 1-4 . The county attorney decides what is released if there is an on going investigation. I don't think they have the full autopsy report.



Im confused. Minnesota statute 13.825 is a statute about Portable Recording Systems.

eek No suprise that something is being made up

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Reply #632 posted 02/09/18 10:11am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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precioux said:

I haven't looked it up, but I'm sure you have....

In the state of Mn, does the full autopsy report automatically go to the "next of kin", or can a criminal investigation hinder that info from being passed on to them?

Thanks in advance

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Someone in the family hired an attorney from Ohio who specializes in accidental deaths by OD.

We dont know who this attorney really represents from the pleading filed. We dont know if ALL the siblings hired this attorney or only a few.

Attorneys that practice personal injury and wrongful death are not paid up front. Normally attorneys get 1/3 of any $$ settlement or $$ judgment plus all out-of-pocket expeneses paid up front by the attorney. It is very expensive to litigate wrongful death cases.


Someone is looking for insurance money. Doctors must carry malpractice insurance. They want to go after the deep pocket. The motion states "They also need the data to determine which theories they must assert in making a wrongful death claim, and who the potential defendants and insurers are. The individuals identified in the data will not be harmed because any resulting wrongful death claim is a civil action, in which insurance will likely play a significant role."

I believe the document filed by this attorney represents the family does have the autopsy but they want the ME's investigative file and not just the autopsy summary.

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No but the ME's investigative file would be.

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Reply #633 posted 02/09/18 10:15am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Im confused. Minnesota statute 13.825 is a statute about Portable Recording Systems.

eek No suprise that something is being made up

Nope nothing is being made up. You're always looking for "nothing" . Poor thing. I'm at work and doing (3) three things at one time. 13.83 2017 Minnesota statutes Subd 1-4. Eat that for sustenance. lol

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Reply #634 posted 02/09/18 10:20am

disch

I can't imagine there are too many folks who disagree with the statement that "we don't know everything." Even on the surface there's tons we don't know -- but that doesn't mean we ever will (or that we need to know every personal, intimate detail).

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I'm not sure what we can glean one way or the other about this court filing. All we know is that some/all siblings, working with a lawyer who specializes in accidental ODs, want to explore the possibility of suing someone. If that suit ever happens, and who exactly would be the target, we don't know. (Alought as ISaid pointed out, the filing's refernces to insurance coverage would make you think theconsidering a medical pro -- doctor, hospital, etc.)

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I don't think this filing adds particular credence to some of the more conspiratorial theories (suicide due to terminal cancer, intentional homicide, etc).

PennyPurple said:

I would hate to think that the family didn't get the full autopsy report. Maybe they did and it still showed that he died of nothing other then an accidental overdose. Could be the Drs in Moline that they will go after?? If the family doesn't know anymore than we do, no wonder they haven't came out said anything.

guess whoever said we don't know everything was really correct. People in glass houses...

Boy and just like her Brother, Tyka didnt let the hate penetrate. She always seemed to remain cool headed.

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Reply #635 posted 02/09/18 10:23am

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Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

eek No suprise that something is being made up

Nope nothing is being made up. You're always looking for "nothing" . Poor thing. I'm at work and doing (3) three things at one time. 13.83 2017 Minnesota statutes Subd 1-4. Eat that for sustenance. lol

Has nothing to do with your ridculous Tyka and ghetto comments. Speaks volumes about you.

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Reply #636 posted 02/09/18 10:23am

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laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Nope nothing is being made up. You're always looking for "nothing" . Poor thing. I'm at work and doing (3) three things at one time. 13.83 2017 Minnesota statutes Subd 1-4. Eat that for sustenance. lol

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Reply #637 posted 02/09/18 10:27am

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Whatever you say. This information about a malpractice suit was known to me back in the fall of 2016. The information was said to have come from Tyka's husband. People talk and this came from one of those private Facebook groups a lot of you keep discounting. We shall see soon enough if they only have a year to file their suit.

disch said:

I can't imagine there are too many folks who disagree with the statement that "we don't know everything." Even on the surface there's tons we don't know -- but that doesn't mean we ever will (or that we need to know every personal, intimate detail).

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I'm not sure what we can glean one way or the other about this court filing. All we know is that some/all siblings, working with a lawyer who specializes in accidental ODs, want to explore the possibility of suing someone. If that suit ever happens, and who exactly would be the target, we don't know. (Alought as ISaid pointed out, the filing's refernces to insurance coverage would make you think theconsidering a medical pro -- doctor, hospital, etc.)

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I don't think this filing adds particular credence to some of the more conspiratorial theories (suicide due to terminal cancer, intentional homicide, etc).

guess whoever said we don't know everything was really correct. People in glass houses...

Boy and just like her Brother, Tyka didnt let the hate penetrate. She always seemed to remain cool headed.

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Reply #638 posted 02/09/18 10:29am

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The autopsy is available to the next-of-kin whether there is a criminal investigation or not.

Its the DATA collected by the Medical Examiner to prepare the autopsy report that is not readily available if there is an ongoing investigation.

The motion filed by the attorney is requesting the DATA collected by the ME.

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Reply #639 posted 02/09/18 10:38am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Im confused. Minnesota statute 13.825 is a statute about Portable Recording Systems.

eek No suprise that something is being made up

Hahaha, since we were talking about the statute, and nothing"ghetto" (as referenced by this post)this shows that you have no idea of how to define context or relevance of the post itself. "Ghetto" comments however true or false, has nothing to do with the statement you made above about the statute being made up. Go read a book.

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Reply #640 posted 02/09/18 10:55am

Lovejunky

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The autopsy is available to the next-of-kin whether there is a criminal investigation or not.

Its the DATA collected by the Medical Examiner to prepare the autopsy report that is not readily available if there is an ongoing investigation.

The motion filed by the attorney is requesting the DATA collected by the ME.

In other words

they want to know EXACT Details of what was in his system ?

SO ...that would include the levels of any drugs ?

What would they be able to understand from this ISLIJAG ???

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Reply #641 posted 02/09/18 11:08am

Menes

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The autopsy is available to the next-of-kin whether there is a criminal investigation or not.

Its the DATA collected by the Medical Examiner to prepare the autopsy report that is not readily available if there is an ongoing investigation.

The motion filed by the attorney is requesting the DATA collected by the ME.

The county is denying access to the information under 13.82 Subd 7. The medical examiner is denying access to the information under 13.83. Subd 4. Those are two different things. I don't think it is just the data collected by the medical examiner. This is why I don't believe the next-of-kin had access to any of the files( to include the the non-pubic autopsy report).

There is an exception for Subd7 as explained in the filing." Any person may bring an action in a district court located in the county where the data are being maintained to authorize disclosure of investigative data".

Furthermore, that data will more than likely be confidential and therefore sealed, so there's that.

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Reply #642 posted 02/09/18 11:10am

morningsong

disch said:

The thing is, nothing about their statements and actions (I'm talking about the siblings here, not cousin chazz) has indicated that "wanting someone to pay" is a strong motivation for them. For example, Tyka has never said anything publicly that would indicate she feels that way. There might be a lot of reasons for that, but one reason might be that they don't really blame anyone else for Prince's death.

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I'm hesitant to project a certain kind of anger or rage onto them that they haven't really expressed publicly. I don't know what they feel, but none of them have really said anything about those kinds of feelings.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, but I want to think they are not so cold toward their brother that it is all about money. If I were in their shoes I would want someone to pay for this. If not criminally at least make their life uncomfortable. I also have no idea of course what went on but we do know that Prince had some people they took advantage of him and that in and of itself is not right.



yeahthat

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Reply #643 posted 02/09/18 11:17am

nelcp777

Didn't the Goldman's sue OJ Simpson in civil court and win? OJ was found innocent in criminal trial. So I guess with that, the civil case for Prince's siblings could happen.

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Reply #644 posted 02/09/18 11:20am

purplefam99

disch said:

I can't imagine there are too many folks who disagree with the statement that "we don't know everything." Even on the surface there's tons we don't know -- but that doesn't mean we ever will (or that we need to know every personal, intimate detail).

-

I'm not sure what we can glean one way or the other about this court filing. All we know is that some/all siblings, working with a lawyer who specializes in accidental ODs, want to explore the possibility of suing someone. If that suit ever happens, and who exactly would be the target, we don't know. (Alought as ISaid pointed out, the filing's refernces to insurance coverage would make you think theconsidering a medical pro -- doctor, hospital, etc.)

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I don't think this filing adds particular credence to some of the more conspiratorial theories (suicide due to terminal cancer, intentional homicide, etc).

guess whoever said we don't know everything was really correct. People in glass houses...

Boy and just like her Brother, Tyka didnt let the hate penetrate. She always seemed to remain cool headed.

agree

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Reply #645 posted 02/09/18 11:26am

purplefam99

nelcp777 said:

Didn't the Goldman's sue OJ Simpson in civil court and win? OJ was found innocent in criminal trial. So I guess with that, the civil case for Prince's siblings could happen.

and maybe that is what the family wants, something that will stand that will say Perhaps "no he wasn't a life long addict". maybe they don't want money at all like the Goldmans they want what the

verdict may prove from a civil suit.

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[Edited 2/9/18 11:27am]

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Reply #646 posted 02/09/18 11:32am

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Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

eek No suprise that something is being made up

Hahaha, since we were talking about the statute, and nothing"ghetto" (as referenced by this post)this shows that you have no idea of how to define context or relevance of the post itself. "Ghetto" comments however true or false, has nothing to do with the statement you made above about the statute being made up. Go read a book.

You made those comments in the past and you have written extreme shady things about Tyka that have no correlation to reality. In other words you have no problem making up shit to suit your purpose so why would I think anything you post is relevent or true?

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Reply #647 posted 02/09/18 11:34am

cloveringold85

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casi1 said:

purplefam99 said:
Ha that is so funny your probably correct, he probably did everything but, type of celibacy.
Lol. Exactly. He tells on himself in his lyrics: 'He said “my faith keeps me from willin’ But you know that I’m able And if there’s some room I’d like to sit at your table” She said “it’s tight, but I think I can fit you in” -------- Then the next line is: 'Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead' -------- Ummm. What yall doing in bed, Prince? Oh, and what exactly is tight that you are being fit into? Just sayin.

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Ha-ha! lol

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It would take a lot of will power to be celibate with Prince! I'm just talking crazy -- hey, it's Friday!! lol

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Reply #648 posted 02/09/18 11:34am

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morningsong said:

disch said:

The thing is, nothing about their statements and actions (I'm talking about the siblings here, not cousin chazz) has indicated that "wanting someone to pay" is a strong motivation for them. For example, Tyka has never said anything publicly that would indicate she feels that way. There might be a lot of reasons for that, but one reason might be that they don't really blame anyone else for Prince's death.

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I'm hesitant to project a certain kind of anger or rage onto them that they haven't really expressed publicly. I don't know what they feel, but none of them have really said anything about those kinds of feelings.



yeahthat

Because the sibs have not expressed any rage in public does not mean they do not have any. I think they learned from Prince to keep their emotions out of the public eye.

Charles has expressed raged and he is a relative.

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Reply #649 posted 02/09/18 11:37am

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purplefam99 said:

nelcp777 said:

Didn't the Goldman's sue OJ Simpson in civil court and win? OJ was found innocent in criminal trial. So I guess with that, the civil case for Prince's siblings could happen.

and maybe that is what the family wants, something that will stand that will say Perhaps "no he wasn't a life long addict". maybe they don't want money at all like the Goldmans they want what the

verdict may prove from a civil suit.

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[Edited 2/9/18 11:27am]

That is what I think vidication and a clearing of the air. Remember the Goldman's won their Civil suit and have yet to see a penny but I am sure they felt as if they received a measure of justice.

Some justice is better then nothing and it can give closure.

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Reply #650 posted 02/09/18 11:44am

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The fact that the family wants to sue for wrongful death now just doesn't jive with the comments that Tyka made about "she knew for 3-years", and "He had to go", and "We were waiting for the call", and yadda......yadda.

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I'm totally confused here because how can you sue for wrongful death when Prince died of an accidental overdose of illegal Fentanyl?

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Are they trying to pin it on one of the doctor's because they did not treat Prince properly and get him into a hospital/facility? But, then we are back at square-one, because you can't make anyone go into treatment. They have to do it on their own.

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Oh, Lord!! rolleyes

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Reply #651 posted 02/09/18 11:46am

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Menes said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The autopsy is available to the next-of-kin whether there is a criminal investigation or not.

Its the DATA collected by the Medical Examiner to prepare the autopsy report that is not readily available if there is an ongoing investigation.

The motion filed by the attorney is requesting the DATA collected by the ME.

The county is denying access to the information under 13.82 Subd 7. The medical examiner is denying access to the information under 13.83. Subd 4. Those are two different things. I don't think it is just the data collected by the medical examiner. This is why I don't believe the next-of-kin had access to any of the files( to include the the non-pubic autopsy report).

There is an exception for Subd7 as explained in the filing." Any person may bring an action in a district court located in the county where the data are being maintained to authorize disclosure of investigative data".

Furthermore, that data will more than likely be confidential and therefore sealed, so there's that.

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This is getting too weird.

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Reply #652 posted 02/09/18 11:56am

Menes

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

[Edited 2/9/18 12:07pm]

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Reply #653 posted 02/09/18 12:04pm

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Hahaha, since we were talking about the statute, and nothing"ghetto" (as referenced by this post)this shows that you have no idea of how to define context or relevance of the post itself. "Ghetto" comments however true or false, has nothing to do with the statement you made above about the statute being made up. Go read a book.

You made those comments in the past and you have written extreme shady things about Tyka that have no correlation to reality. In other words you have no problem making up shit to suit your purpose so why would I think anything you post is relevent or true?

If you don't think that a post is "relevant" simply because I have written "shady" things about Tyka, guess what? Nothing will change. You are powerless to stop a post you deem "shady". Go read a book.

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Reply #654 posted 02/09/18 12:12pm

disch

I think we're reading an awful lot into something that hasn't actually happened (a lawsuit -- let alone a successful lawsuit).

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I don't know, I'm still not sold on the idea this is part of some big investigative plan orchestrated by the family and not that one or more of them somehow connected with a lawyer (who knows who initiatiated contact, the siblings or the lawyer) who saw that there may be some dollars to be made out of the situation.

Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

[Edited 2/9/18 12:07pm]

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Reply #655 posted 02/09/18 12:23pm

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Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

[Edited 2/9/18 12:07pm]

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Well, if they are doing this just for the insurance money, then that is just sad and pathetic. Greed is a terrible thing. mad

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Like you said, if there was any wrongdoing on the doctor(s) part, they would have been charged by now.

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Reply #656 posted 02/09/18 12:25pm

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Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

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under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.
Unless Prince had a pill making machine in the basement of PP someone else is responsible.

Doctors have been caught dispensing pain meds to patients for the sole purpose of making money.

Remember the Goldman's won their case and O.J. was found innocent of Ron's death.

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See the case below Doctors were involved with distrubing pain meds via a fake pain center.

ttps://www.beckersasc.com/asc-turnarounds-ideas-to-improve-performance/pain-center-chain-linked-to-700-patient-deaths-largely-due-to-opioids-7-indicted.html

Two Italians and five Americans have been charged in a fraud and drug trafficking conspiracy to distribute opioids in Tennessee and Florida "pill mills." The alleged conspirators ran the Knoxville, Tenn.-based Urgent Care & Surgery Center Enterprise, which operated opioid based pain management clinics that led to the death of approximately 700 patients.

Here are six things you need to know:

1. The defendants include:

  • Luca Sartini
  • Luigi Palma (alias Jimmy Palma)
  • Benjamin Rodriguez
  • Sylvia Hofstetter
  • Courtney Newman, NP
  • Cynthia Clemons, NP
  • Holli Womack (Holli Carmichael), NP

Mr. Sartini and Mr. Palma were arrested in the Rome, Italy-area by Italian authorities. The United States seeks extradition. Prosecutors described Ms. Hofstetter as the largest drug dealer ever to appear in an East Tenn. federal courtroom.

Mr. Rodriguez is set to self-surrender and all other defendants were charged in previous indictments.

2. The defendants ran UCSC Enterprise from April 2009 to March 2015. The defendants allegedly hired medical providers with DEA registration numbers which allowed the providers to prescribe controlled substances. According to the DOJ's report, the prescriptions were typically written for large doses of controlled substances to individuals who had traveled long distances telling the physicians they suffered from severe chronic pain.

3. The superseding indictment alleges the defendants distributed oxycodone, oxymorphone and morphine in sufficient quantities to generate clinic revenue of at least $21 million.

4. The indictment alleges approximately 700 UCSC Enterprise patients are now dead and a significant percentage of those deaths resulted from overdosing on narcotics prescribed by the UCSC Enterprise.

5. The indictment also alleges that many patients arrived in groups sponsored by drug dealers who paid for the pain clinic visits and prescriptions to obtain all or part of the opioids and other narcotics prescribed to the patients. In return, opioid addicted patients would receive a portion of the prescribed narcotics for free from the sponsor.

6. As a result of the Attorney General's Opioid Fraud and Abuse Task Force Initiative investigation, approximately 30 narcotics traffickers have been charged and convicted federally. Approximately 80 to 90 smaller narcotics distributors have been charged and convicted. The Jan. 19 superseding indictment is among 35 related indictments charging about 140 individuals including medical providers employed at the pill mills.

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Reply #657 posted 02/09/18 12:29pm

Menes

disch said:

I think we're reading an awful lot into something that hasn't actually happened (a lawsuit -- let alone a successful lawsuit).

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I don't know, I'm still not sold on the idea this is part of some big investigative plan orchestrated by the family and not that one or more of them somehow connected with a lawyer (who knows who initiatiated contact, the siblings or the lawyer) who saw that there may be some dollars to be made out of the situation.

Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

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But the reasons are clearly explained in the filing.

1. Two firms are hired. Specific areas of practice; Prescription drug overdose deaths/Personal injury. Like you, I don't know who the firms are representing but I can find out.

2. Regardless of who contacted whom, if the firm has been retained, it is primarily about compensation. I am under no illusion that it could be related to compassionate lawyers who love Prince.

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Reply #658 posted 02/09/18 12:30pm

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Menes said:

disch said:

I think we're reading an awful lot into something that hasn't actually happened (a lawsuit -- let alone a successful lawsuit).

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I don't know, I'm still not sold on the idea this is part of some big investigative plan orchestrated by the family and not that one or more of them somehow connected with a lawyer (who knows who initiatiated contact, the siblings or the lawyer) who saw that there may be some dollars to be made out of the situation.

But the reasons are clearly explained in the filing.

1. Two firms are hired. Specific areas of practice; Prescription drug overdose deaths/Personal injury. Like you, I don't know who the firms are representing but I can find out.

2. Regardless of who contacted whom, if the firm has been retained, it is primarily about compensation. I am under no illusion that it could be related to compassionate lawyers who love Prince.

The laywers are going to do what they have been retained for. What does their love of Prince have to do with anything? nuts

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Reply #659 posted 02/09/18 12:32pm

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Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

[Edited 2/9/18 12:07pm]

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under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.
Unless Prince had a pill making machine in the basement of PP someone else is responsible.

Doctors have been caught dispensing pain meds to patients for the sole purpose of making money.

Remember the Goldman's won their case and O.J. was found innocent of Ron's death.

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See the case below Doctors were involved with distrubing pain meds via a fake pain center.

ttps://www.beckersasc.com/asc-turnarounds-ideas-to-improve-performance/pain-center-chain-linked-to-700-patient-deaths-largely-due-to-opioids-7-indicted.html

Two Italians and five Americans have been charged in a fraud and drug trafficking conspiracy to distribute opioids in Tennessee and Florida "pill mills." The alleged conspirators ran the Knoxville, Tenn.-based Urgent Care & Surgery Center Enterprise, which operated opioid based pain management clinics that led to the death of approximately 700 patients.

Here are six things you need to know:

1. The defendants include:

  • Luca Sartini
  • Luigi Palma (alias Jimmy Palma)
  • Benjamin Rodriguez
  • Sylvia Hofstetter
  • Courtney Newman, NP
  • Cynthia Clemons, NP
  • Holli Womack (Holli Carmichael), NP

Mr. Sartini and Mr. Palma were arrested in the Rome, Italy-area by Italian authorities. The United States seeks extradition. Prosecutors described Ms. Hofstetter as the largest drug dealer ever to appear in an East Tenn. federal courtroom.

Mr. Rodriguez is set to self-surrender and all other defendants were charged in previous indictments.

2. The defendants ran UCSC Enterprise from April 2009 to March 2015. The defendants allegedly hired medical providers with DEA registration numbers which allowed the providers to prescribe controlled substances. According to the DOJ's report, the prescriptions were typically written for large doses of controlled substances to individuals who had traveled long distances telling the physicians they suffered from severe chronic pain.

3. The superseding indictment alleges the defendants distributed oxycodone, oxymorphone and morphine in sufficient quantities to generate clinic revenue of at least $21 million.

4. The indictment alleges approximately 700 UCSC Enterprise patients are now dead and a significant percentage of those deaths resulted from overdosing on narcotics prescribed by the UCSC Enterprise.

5. The indictment also alleges that many patients arrived in groups sponsored by drug dealers who paid for the pain clinic visits and prescriptions to obtain all or part of the opioids and other narcotics prescribed to the patients. In return, opioid addicted patients would receive a portion of the prescribed narcotics for free from the sponsor.

6. As a result of the Attorney General's Opioid Fraud and Abuse Task Force Initiative investigation, approximately 30 narcotics traffickers have been charged and convicted federally. Approximately 80 to 90 smaller narcotics distributors have been charged and convicted. The Jan. 19 superseding indictment is among 35 related indictments charging about 140 individuals including medical providers employed at the pill mills.

[Edited 2/9/18 12:29pm]

Ummm, yea, this is not news. lol. I could find tons of reports the mirrors this. Read the filing. It is specific to said entitites listed in the filing. It's not a fishing expedition.

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