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Reply #60 posted 01/03/18 11:49am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

He still thinks P was murdered.

He could have had cancer and been murdered.

OOH a double wammy. Cancer and murder ! A disaster of epic proportions! So what does that mean?


1.That someone who knew Prince had cancer ,felt sorry for him , gave him the "kill pill" and bid him farewell (as in assisted suicide)?

2. Or that someone knew he was taking pills for the cancer and therefore planted the "kill pill" in the batch knowing full well that he would have take it to ease the cancer pain at some point ?

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Reply #61 posted 01/03/18 11:51am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

You are being redundant. Nobody is claming that Prince is a "suspect". You are the only one bringing that up .Most, if not all of us, are past that rudimentary idea and wouldnt even bother to have such an elementary conversation concerning Prince the "suspect".

1.He is respsonsible for taking an illicit street drug.

2.He is responsible for procuring illicit pills.

3.He is responsble for what happened in Moline.

4.He is reposnsible for self administering ilicit opiates before ,during and after Moline..

5. He is responsible for the intake of "x" pill with fentanyl in it that cuased him to overdose.

6. He is not responsible nor has been implicated for manufacturing said illicit pills or selling it to himself, to date.

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Reply #62 posted 01/03/18 11:53am

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

In the documentary they said he made four trips to Walgreens to get meds if this is true and I have no idea how they would know it would mean he did have an Rx at some point probaly under someone else's name or written in another state or country.

You keep acting as if Prince was going to need to get something from a doctor. He had money he could get whatever he wanted and he would not have to work with an doctor. At any rate notice that Dr. S is not even in any trouble for writing him those non-controlled substances under Kirk's name.

If he had terminal cancer, there would be no need to get drugs off of the street. Most normal people DO get their scripts for Meds from a DR.


Also do not forget that Dr S wrote Kirk that prescription for percocet which ended up with Prince.


There was no reason what so ever that Prince had to turn to street drugs, again IF he was terminal he could've gotten a script from any DR in any name, just like he had been doing.

You don't have PC for 2 years, it's brutal and swift. 2 years before he died is when he and Tyka had the convo.....

Lord have mercy women. He could have gotten drugs for cancer but did not want to leave a paper trail no one said he could not get them from a Doctor. If he had simple blood pressure meds written under an assumed name because he did not want anyone to know about those why would he want a doctor to write him a legit script for pain pills so the whole world would know his business.

Also he was not going to get anyone to write a controlled substance under an assumed name. Dr. S claims those pain pills were written for Kirk not Prince and that he never wrote a pain pill for Prince at all and not under an assumed name. Is Dr. S in jail?

Remember a gossip site said that Prince had sephis which can also be a results of cancer treatment. Kirk said Prince was in the hospital before for treatment but he did not know for what.

We know he was taken to the hospital from Paisley in 2012 from the Carver County logs.

He also had loads of Vitamin D pills which are given to cancer patients under going treatment.

We know from the documentary he was going into the Walgreens and getting something from the Pharmcy. A lot of coincedences.

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Reply #63 posted 01/03/18 11:59am

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He may have been seen at Walgreen's but the script found at PP were from CVS per the warrant.

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Reply #64 posted 01/03/18 12:00pm

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Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

He could have had cancer and been murdered.

OOH a double wammy. Cancer and murder ! A disaster of epic proportions! So what does that mean?


1.That someone who knew Prince had cancer ,felt sorry for him , gave him the "kill pill" and bid him farewell (as in assisted suicide)?

2. Or that someone knew he was taking pills for the cancer and therefore planted the "kill pill" in the batch knowing full well that he would have take it to ease the cancer pain at some point ?

Lord, One more time.

1) Assisted sucide since he did not make the pill himself. He would have had to reach out to someone to get a kill pill.

2) Mistake from idiot friend, stupid drug dealer or stupid ladyfriend.

3) Given bad pill on purpose by pissed off friend, drug dealer or stupid ladyfriend.

Any of these things could have happend and he could have had cancer, AIDS, or joint pain while all of this was occuring. You know the man that had 20 things going the whole of his life.

Remember the ME thinks it was an accident and plenty of empty pill bottles were left laying around in a 65k foot building when that he could have hidden those pills were no one could find them. Because all of a sudden the man who no one saw high ever was just going to leave his drugs laying around in the open.

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Reply #65 posted 01/03/18 12:01pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

He may have been seen at Walgreen's but the script found at PP were from CVS per the warrant.

Those were the ones with Kirk's name on them. The ones that Kirk filled that Dr. S said he wrote for Kirk may have nothing to do with whatever was going on at the Walgreens.

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Reply #66 posted 01/03/18 12:11pm

Menes

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

If he had terminal cancer, there would be no need to get drugs off of the street. Most normal people DO get their scripts for Meds from a DR.


Also do not forget that Dr S wrote Kirk that prescription for percocet which ended up with Prince.


There was no reason what so ever that Prince had to turn to street drugs, again IF he was terminal he could've gotten a script from any DR in any name, just like he had been doing.

You don't have PC for 2 years, it's brutal and swift. 2 years before he died is when he and Tyka had the convo.....

Lord have mercy women. He could have gotten drugs for cancer but did not want to leave a paper trail no one said he could not get them from a Doctor. If he had simple blood pressure meds written under an assumed name because he did not want anyone to know about those why would he want a doctor to write him a legit script for pain pills so the whole world would know his business.

Also he was not going to get anyone to write a controlled substance under an assumed name. Dr. S claims those pain pills were written for Kirk not Prince and that he never wrote a pain pill for Prince at all and not under an assumed name. Is Dr. S in jail?

Remember a gossip site said that Prince had sephis which can also be a results of cancer treatment. Kirk said Prince was in the hospital before for treatment but he did not know for what.

We know he was taken to the hospital from Paisley in 2012 from the Carver County logs.

He also had loads of Vitamin D pills which are given to cancer patients under going treatment.

We know from the documentary he was going into the Walgreens and getting something from the Pharmcy. A lot of coincedences.

The lord is not concerned with this conversation.

Who is to say he needed anything legitimate. You are assuming he had something that required a prescription.

Why was Dr. Schulenberg bringing him test results on the same day Andrew was to arrive and administer additional substances to curb withdrawal? Do you know how buprenorphine reacts with other opiates that are still in your system? Do you know the risk? Furthermore, do you know the tests that are required and how many days to determine the test type? What are they testing for , Laura? I'm sure you know.

Did it occur to you that if he had "x" type of cancer that may have been terminal, the type of drugs that were found is not indicative of anything near what he should have tried to procure for pain? Watson 853's are trash. A bottom feeders way of dealing with serious pain. You could look on the black web right now and procure things that would have a much better impact on pain.

Did it occur to you that there is a counter balance in the mix of drugs found at Paisley Park?

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Reply #67 posted 01/03/18 12:17pm

Menes

PeteSilas said:

Menes said:

I am merely asking what are your thoughts on this "kill pill"? Didn't mean to imply that you thought either way.

oh, sorry, i think Prince knew it was lethal and took it, i think he intentionally sought it out. I don't think Kirk or anyone tried to kill him. but I'm trying to be open minded with some of our posters here, as far as im' concerned, at this point, there opinions are as valid as ours.

I know what you mean . Must've had a thing for tempting fate/death after that incident in Moline. No way he didn't see this coming.

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Reply #68 posted 01/03/18 12:24pm

precioux

PennyPurple said:

And lets also remember how fast PC takes you down. IF it was PC he wouldn't have lasted 2 years, since him and Tyka's convo. PC is fast moving.

Bingo

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Reply #69 posted 01/03/18 12:27pm

PeteSilas

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

And lets also remember how fast PC takes you down. IF it was PC he wouldn't have lasted 2 years, since him and Tyka's convo. PC is fast moving.

Bingo

cancer can just wipe you out, one of my customers told me the other day his mother in law passed, she looked just fine last time i saw her, which wasn't that long ago. Cancer just got ahold and took her out so fast. I was shocked, if there is good to come out of that, I thought of how whiney i am with my comparatively minor problems.

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Reply #70 posted 01/03/18 12:27pm

precioux

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

He had Dr. S write him non-controlled Rx under an assumed name. He did not want anyone knowing his business. Look at the two pharmacist that got into trouble for looking him up in the database. Star Tribune hiring an attorney to get his divorce file open.

Look at the media getting his FBI records. He was not going to have some greasy tabloid making a dollar off him.

No matter what, if he had terminal cancer the Drs. would not have a problem with writing him scripts for pain killers, no matter what name he used. The fact is there were illegal pills in PP, the kind that are made on the street. Street drugs.

The ONLY thing I can fathom as to why Prince may have obtained illegal pills is because if the insurance that covered the P&M tour knew (IF HE HAD PC)-they may have not insured him...but that's a double edged sword, because if they would've found out about the illegal usage, then they definitely would not have insured him as he would've been seen as a risk- go figure.

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Reply #71 posted 01/03/18 12:28pm

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Menes said:

You are being redundant. Nobody is claming that Prince is a "suspect". You are the only one bringing that up .Most, if not all of us, are past that rudimentary idea and wouldnt even bother to have such an elementary conversation concerning Prince the "suspect".

1.He is respsonsible for taking an illicit street drug.

2.He is responsible for procuring illicit pills.

3.He is responsble for what happened in Moline.

4.He is reposnsible for self administering ilicit opiates before ,during and after Moline..

5. He is responsible for the intake of "x" pill with fentanyl in it that cuased him to overdose.

6. He is not responsible nor has been implicated for manufacturing said illicit pills or selling it to himself, to date.

yes

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Reply #72 posted 01/03/18 12:30pm

PeteSilas

PennyPurple said:

PeteSilas said:

the thing that screams intentional is the fact that prince's pill had enough fent to kill a whale, that's no kind of accident on the part of a person making it, that's an intentional pill to kill. that's my beliefe.

Not intentional, it's how the cut it. Fentanyl could be in 5 of a batch of 20, because they aren't pharmacists, they are people off the streets throwing anything and everything in. You never know what you are gonna get when you buy off the street.

what are the ods of odin'g on what was said to not be fent a few days before and od'ing on fent a few days later? it's like he was just finishing what he started. I'll always wonder if the elevator was his way of a joke on us as well as the "u got the look" lyrics in his briefcase, he always was a joker.

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Reply #73 posted 01/03/18 12:32pm

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PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

You are being redundant. Nobody is claming that Prince is a "suspect". You are the only one bringing that up .Most, if not all of us, are past that rudimentary idea and wouldnt even bother to have such an elementary conversation concerning Prince the "suspect".

1.He is respsonsible for taking an illicit street drug.

2.He is responsible for procuring illicit pills.

3.He is responsble for what happened in Moline.

4.He is reposnsible for self administering ilicit opiates before ,during and after Moline..

5. He is responsible for the intake of "x" pill with fentanyl in it that cuased him to overdose.

6. He is not responsible nor has been implicated for manufacturing said illicit pills or selling it to himself, to date.

yes

Not according to the law.

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Reply #74 posted 01/03/18 12:32pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Yes, everyone but Prince, got Prince all of those pills.

Did they find a pill stamping machine in the basement of Paisely Park? Their was a source and a creator for those pills and it was not Prince. He did not make them they came from someone.

Menes said Prince "got" as in PROCURED, not manufactured them himself! rolleyes

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Reply #75 posted 01/03/18 12:33pm

precioux

PeteSilas said:

the thing that screams intentional is the fact that prince's pill had enough fent to kill a whale, that's no kind of accident on the part of a person making it, that's an intentional pill to kill. that's my beliefe.

co-sign

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Reply #76 posted 01/03/18 12:34pm

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precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

No matter what, if he had terminal cancer the Drs. would not have a problem with writing him scripts for pain killers, no matter what name he used. The fact is there were illegal pills in PP, the kind that are made on the street. Street drugs.

The ONLY thing I can fathom as to why Prince may have obtained illegal pills is because if the insurance that covered the P&M tour knew (IF HE HAD PC)-they may have not insured him...but that's a double edged sword, because if they would've found out about the illegal usage, then they definitely would not have insured him as he would've been seen as a risk- go figure.

That's true Precioux, I forgot about that.

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Reply #77 posted 01/03/18 12:35pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

And lets also remember how fast PC takes you down. IF it was PC he wouldn't have lasted 2 years, since him and Tyka's convo. PC is fast moving.

Not really they have better treatments now a days to keep people living longer with all sorts of cancers. He could have had treatment before even for some other cancer and had it come back again. Like I said that 65k was for some sort of treatment.

The lady from the Dap Kings dealt with it for a bit and even had surgery but still died in the end.

Even Patrick Swayze hung in their for a while.

Jackie Collins had breast cancer and dealt with it for 8 years due to experimental treatment.

Maybe...but NOT for PC. It takes you out within a year or so, AT BEST

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Reply #78 posted 01/03/18 12:39pm

morningsong

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Did they find a pill stamping machine in the basement of Paisely Park? Their was a source and a creator for those pills and it was not Prince. He did not make them they came from someone.

Menes said Prince "got" as in PROCURED, not manufactured them himself! rolleyes



So the person that made the pills, and stamped them to look like another type of pill is innocent? Which is the line of thought going on here.


None of us know why Prince procured illegal pills. All we know is they were made to look like something legit. The burden falls on the person who made them.

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Reply #79 posted 01/03/18 1:21pm

Menes

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

No matter what, if he had terminal cancer the Drs. would not have a problem with writing him scripts for pain killers, no matter what name he used. The fact is there were illegal pills in PP, the kind that are made on the street. Street drugs.

The ONLY thing I can fathom as to why Prince may have obtained illegal pills is because if the insurance that covered the P&M tour knew (IF HE HAD PC)-they may have not insured him...but that's a double edged sword, because if they would've found out about the illegal usage, then they definitely would not have insured him as he would've been seen as a risk- go figure.

Exactly! To these two comments, let me add this:

1. Let's say that we have concluded that Prince had hip surgery/replacement... name me one doctor, surgeon, anesthesiologist, xray tech, surgical nurse, etc. etc. etc. that has leaked any information about that? You cant find it anywhere on the net. It is beyond me why he would not think he could trust doctors to write him a prescription for cancer, yet he trusted them to cut into him? Really?

2. Now, if you are requiring pills to maintain a habit, who would write such a prescription? What insurance agency would indemnify you for such acts?

3. Now, if you require pills to deal with a legitimate illness,and X'" pain medication grants you the capacity to still perform, (as he was trying to do)what sense does it make for the insurance agency to not indemnify you if they are aware of the condition? In addition, there are competent doctors that understand confidentiality . As a matter of fact, where is the information about Prince in Moline? That doctor that treated him is unknown to this day. The information is unknown to this day. Don't tell me that they are not doctors who would couldn't write a simple damn prescription for cancer and honor a confidentiality. We are not talking about a Kanye West melt down here.

4. This is once again paranoia rearing its ugly head. The buffoonery of : The world against Prince because he had cancer. We must all keep it a secret , even TWO (2) years after his death. Ahh the irony, let's keep that cancer a secret ,but let the drug problem play out in the media. Please ,someone tell me how well planned out of a strategy that is? Who in Bangladesh was/is advising these people? (No offense to the people of Bangladesh).

Do you know how much cash they could have made if the narrative was that he died fighting a courageous battle against cancer and he didn't want to burden the world with it ,but instead, gave us music. I would have applied for a job right away because the cash would have been pouring in.

Why did that lawyer call Andrew's father to set up a meeting if she herself didn't think he had a problem? Who would allow someone to think you're an addict ,instead of saying, "I am fighting my cancer pain with these opiates and I need you to spin a narrative for me. Where is the PR? Was she still representing him and in what capacity? She should be tarred and feathered if she knew differently yet wanted him off of the pain pills for cancer. But that would be the dumbest thing ever. Me suspects she had no clue and Prince gave her no instructions . Remember the timing here people. That appointment was scheduled days in advance of his death , not on the day of , am I right? If so, then he had knowledge it was coming. That would mean that he allowed that narrative to play out. Either it was true, or he was just that damn diabolical.

What could have been going through his mind when that secret got out per that plane ride? Well, per his actions , it was best to appear to not have a problem. It was too late. Things would unravel and now he/someone would have to tell the story or pretend to not know like most of them are doing right now.

I am not saying the something was not wrong( take your pick) but it is very difficult to conclude that it was such a dire situation and that he had no other choice but to resort to setting people up to go thru great lengths to get him help that he didn't need. That is bizarre and downright diabolical.

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Reply #80 posted 01/03/18 1:27pm

precioux

morningsong said:



precioux said:




laurarichardson said:



Did they find a pill stamping machine in the basement of Paisely Park? Their was a source and a creator for those pills and it was not Prince. He did not make them they came from someone.



Menes said Prince "got" as in PROCURED, not manufactured them himself! rolleyes





So the person that made the pills, and stamped them to look like another type of pill is innocent? Which is the line of thought going on here.


None of us know why Prince procured illegal pills. All we know is they were made to look like something legit. The burden falls on the person who made them.




No, exact opposite. Whoever made the pills/sold to Prince is guilty of 3rd degree homicide (?). My point was clarifying that Prince procured (got) the pills as opposed to LR arguing that P didn't have a "pill stamp machine" in PP basement.
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Reply #81 posted 01/03/18 1:28pm

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Re pancreatic cancer taking people out fast. Yes, this is true: for a certain type of UNtreated ADVANCED PC (adenocarcinoma), the average survival rate in this instance would be 3 and a half months.

HOWEVER, this assumes that Prince went from no symptoms / no disease to advanced PC and death in three and a half months. The science doesn't bear this out. In fact, PC has been shown to be a very slow-growing cancer, with rather non-specific symptoms. It is this delay in seeking and gaining a diagnosis that makes the disease so much more likely to have a poor prognosis, resulting in speedy death. This is borne out by (for example - one amongst many) article from John Hopkins University School of Medicine:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/surprise_finding_pancreatic_cancers_progress_to_lethal_stage_slowly
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This bit, in particular, is very telling:

'After the first (pancreatic) cancer cell appears, it takes an average of nearly seven years for that cell to turn into the billions that make up a cancerous tumor the size of a plum, after which at least one of the cells within the tumor has the potential and ability to spread to other organs. Patients die an average of two and a half years after this metastasis'.

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He could have developed symptoms / lower grade disease for many years before gaining a diagnosis - at which point, it could have been more complex and inoperable. Note the two and a half year timing and how this seems to fit with the time-frame offered up by Tyka (in 2016, she said she had known he was going to die for 2 years).
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***NOTE: I am not saying P had pancreatic cancer; I am just showing how the argument of (or anyone) first developing it and dying from it within a very short space of time isn't necessarily the case.

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Reply #82 posted 01/03/18 1:46pm

morningsong

precioux said:

morningsong said:



So the person that made the pills, and stamped them to look like another type of pill is innocent? Which is the line of thought going on here.


None of us know why Prince procured illegal pills. All we know is they were made to look like something legit. The burden falls on the person who made them.

No, exact opposite. Whoever made the pills/sold to Prince is guilty of 3rd degree homicide (?). My point was clarifying that Prince procured (got) the pills as opposed to LR arguing that P didn't have a "pill stamp machine" in PP basement.



I know what you meant. I think it's silly to make this spec thread the focus on something so small and insignificant as the words pill stamp machine. I mean what's the joke there? Somebody(s) has a machine(s) that's pressing pills, and is stamping them illegally to look like legal pills and is selling them for profit. Is that incorrect or a lie? And that's is murder, who gives a hoot about the degree. Dead is dead. Hasn't the media been showing that there is a massive epidemic of that. Prince isn't the only person who has died taking this crap. Or is all that false media also and not allowed to be used in this thread?

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Reply #83 posted 01/03/18 2:09pm

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precioux said:



laurarichardson said:




Menes said:



Yes, everyone but Prince, got Prince all of those pills.



Did they find a pill stamping machine in the basement of Paisely Park? Their was a source and a creator for those pills and it was not Prince. He did not make them they came from someone.



Menes said Prince "got" as in PROCURED, not manufactured them himself! rolleyes


-It really does not matter under the law he is not being held responsible. The police did not close the case it is still open because they are looking to hold someone other the Prince responsible. What you are Menes think about is irrelevant.
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Reply #84 posted 01/03/18 2:32pm

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My mother's cousin who is in her eighties was diagnosed with PC I would say 3 years ago. She lost a lot of weight but has kept going strong...and she goes about her life. She hasn't stopped doing anything and yes it is PC. No mistake on the diagnosis as she was a ER nurse and had the best doctors in her area treating her.

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Reply #85 posted 01/03/18 3:23pm

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Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

6. This next point is a bit off the beating path, but as I read through some of the responses , something stuck out. I think the poster Disch stated something to the effect: Who performs, ride bikes, plans more concerts, with "stage 435 pancreatic cancer"? Interesting. To add to that, If Kirk knew that he had stage "435 pancreatic cancer", what the hell kind of friend is that to sign him up for rehab? Who would agree to be taken off of any narcotic that brings relief from such a terminal monster? So , are we saying that Kirk knew nothing but that Prince's sister with the Cherokee Indian ESP gift, knew exactly what he had because Prince told her? Interesting.

More to follow: As in putting science to truth( as it relates to the warrants).
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Who said he had stage 4 Pancreatic cancer? He could have had a recent diagnois that was telling him his chance of survial was zero. We are getting this info from family members and insiders with quite a lot of detail. ( Do you realize this is the worst cancer you can have? He would have been wearing a diaper and getting his food from a feeding tube.) Do you really think he was going to let that happen?

Why are you assuming Prince would tell anyone about cancer? If he had some associates would have been running their mouths to the media. Someone in his organization contracted TMZ.

I do not think Kirk signed Prince up for anything from what we have been told it was Pherdra that contacted Dr. Kornfield and if Pheadra and POA for Prince my guest is she is the person who knows a lot about the state of his health and she has not said one word to the media.

I do not believe that Prince was going to any rehab at all. If he told people to get their stuff out of Paisely because they might not be able to get it later he was not going to go to rehab for a while and come back home. I think he was looking for a quick relief from what was in Andrew's bag. Also realize that Dr. Kornfield operates and outpatient center and handles alternatives to joint pain management. I think this meeting was just a consultation.

You need to stop this nonsense with Tyka and this ESP shit. This is her brother do you think she would be happy to even think he was going to die? She said he sent her an e-mail and a song and picture. Do you think she is such an idiot that she could not figure out what he was saying in that communication and that she worked for him and they did not discuss it for the next couple of years? My God man she said she had been given specific task to complete.

Does it really have to be spelled out? He was in pain and he started accelerating his use of these meds to the point of making himself ill. He did not feel the need to stop using them or go to rehab since if would be pointless if he was going to die anyway.

Who plans to die from an overdose two or three years ahead? But you can certainly know what your chances are of beating cancer especially if it comes and goes for a few years.

I have a cousin who has been dealing with bouts of cancer for 8 years. Good chance they may not survive everytime it comes back.

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Imagine that... Tyka knew he had cancer (pick a stage) yet let her brother's good name get dragged through the mud for almost two years simply because she wasn't happy he was going to die? She's so thoughtful and nice.

So when/if she writes it in a book for profit, then it becomes true and therefore it was worth her letting the world assume that he was a drug addict,or a casualty of AIDS, for two years? It that the logic here? Yes , of course , that would make sense because, you see, she wouldn't be writing the book for profit or greed like anybody else did, but merely to clear the "air" once and for all.

Imagine that... she talks about everything else from growing up with Prince, his music, etc etc etc, but nooooooo, let's not talk about cancer as that is way too sensitive for her and too harsh of a thing to let the public know after almost TWO YEARS.. Unfortunately, we will just have to wait for the BOOK. But why does she need to have a book to explain something as simple as cancer that has been around from since the beginning of time? It's not as if he is the first person to die from it, nor will he be the last. Why would that be news to you or anyone else? By such inept reasoning, she would've chosen to let her brother's name get drenched in some of the most despicable rumors in order to tell a story for profit when she sees fit? Piece of work there.

Explain this , oh enlightened one, what is preventing her form telling anyone that would listen ,that he had cancer? What harm could come of that? Absolutely nothing! Ah , but wait, there is one thing... Nothing would drive the sales of your book like revealing any illness that your brother might have had. Conversely, if you knew he had cancer ,and he courageously battled that to the end, how much more would your brohter's name be uplifted? How many more people would take note of cancer awareness, treatments, protocols, etc? There is no logic to letting his name drown in unfounded despicable rumors. None, none, none. You would have to be the most incomptenet advisor on earth to let her think that way.

Yes, yes of course, it's all part of the way he wanted it. He would want nothing less than to be depicted as a drug addict or a casualty of AIDS before she tells the truth. After all, she would be following his wishes, no? Or, are they her own self absorbed thoughts of how to capitalize on his death too?

I remember you kicking and screaming down Penny Purple's door thread when the pubescent one (Mayte) wrote her book. Do you not remember how enraged you were because you thought she was doing it for greed? You think that if Tyka wrote a book that contained statements that Prince had cancer is any different? If so, why not write if for FREE, or say it for FREE right now in her interviews? By this you will know what she wants.

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yeahthat clapping

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This is what I've been saying since Tyka came out with that "I knew for 2-years/3-years". In fact, she said she told the entire family that Prince was dying. rolleyes

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What would be the harm in telling the TRUTH? If Prince had Cancer or some other terminal illness, what is the harm in saying it? What is the shame in that? Why lead people to believe all the rumors? I just do not understand this rationale at all.

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If Prince were my brother, I would set the record straight and stop all of this speculation once and for all. It's quite easy, but instead, she seems to want to keep all the controversy ball rolling so people will read her book. When people do this type of shit, they lose all credibility and respect, in my opinion! To put his fans through this type of turmoil for almost THREE YEARS, and then come out with a book that probably won't tell us anything that we don't already know, is just a slap in face! mad

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Reply #86 posted 01/03/18 3:26pm

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cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

Imagine that... Tyka knew he had cancer (pick a stage) yet let her brother's good name get dragged through the mud for almost two years simply because she wasn't happy he was going to die? She's so thoughtful and nice.

So when/if she writes it in a book for profit, then it becomes true and therefore it was worth her letting the world assume that he was a drug addict,or a casualty of AIDS, for two years? It that the logic here? Yes , of course , that would make sense because, you see, she wouldn't be writing the book for profit or greed like anybody else did, but merely to clear the "air" once and for all.

Imagine that... she talks about everything else from growing up with Prince, his music, etc etc etc, but nooooooo, let's not talk about cancer as that is way too sensitive for her and too harsh of a thing to let the public know after almost TWO YEARS.. Unfortunately, we will just have to wait for the BOOK. But why does she need to have a book to explain something as simple as cancer that has been around from since the beginning of time? It's not as if he is the first person to die from it, nor will he be the last. Why would that be news to you or anyone else? By such inept reasoning, she would've chosen to let her brother's name get drenched in some of the most despicable rumors in order to tell a story for profit when she sees fit? Piece of work there.

Explain this , oh enlightened one, what is preventing her form telling anyone that would listen ,that he had cancer? What harm could come of that? Absolutely nothing! Ah , but wait, there is one thing... Nothing would drive the sales of your book like revealing any illness that your brother might have had. Conversely, if you knew he had cancer ,and he courageously battled that to the end, how much more would your brohter's name be uplifted? How many more people would take note of cancer awareness, treatments, protocols, etc? There is no logic to letting his name drown in unfounded despicable rumors. None, none, none. You would have to be the most incomptenet advisor on earth to let her think that way.

Yes, yes of course, it's all part of the way he wanted it. He would want nothing less than to be depicted as a drug addict or a casualty of AIDS before she tells the truth. After all, she would be following his wishes, no? Or, are they her own self absorbed thoughts of how to capitalize on his death too?

I remember you kicking and screaming down Penny Purple's door thread when the pubescent one (Mayte) wrote her book. Do you not remember how enraged you were because you thought she was doing it for greed? You think that if Tyka wrote a book that contained statements that Prince had cancer is any different? If so, why not write if for FREE, or say it for FREE right now in her interviews? By this you will know what she wants.

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yeahthat clapping

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This is what I've been saying since Tyka came out with that "I knew for 2-years/3-years". In fact, she said she told the entire family that Prince was dying. rolleyes

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What would be the harm in telling the TRUTH? If Prince had Cancer or some other terminal illness, what is the harm in saying it? What is the shame in that? Why lead people to believe all the rumors? I just do not understand this rationale at all.

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If Prince were my brother, I would set the record straight and stop all of this speculation once and for all. It's quite easy, but instead, she seems to want to keep all the controversy ball rolling so people will read her book. When people do this type of shit, they lose all credibility and respect, in my opinion! To put his fans through this type of turmoil for almost THREE YEARS, and then come out with a book that probably won't tell us anything that we don't already know, is just a slap in face! mad

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Reply #87 posted 01/03/18 3:29pm

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PennyPurple said:

If he had PC, there would not be any reason what so ever to obtain drugs illegally off of the streets. The Drs. would prescribe for a terminally ill patient.....

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Exactly! nod

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Reply #88 posted 01/03/18 3:36pm

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

If his family and inner circle are now saying that he had cancer, then somebody forgot to tell Chazz who think's he was murdered....

They are not telling Chazz anything that is the reason he is mad. In addtion, cancer or no cancer someone got Prince those pills. Could have been assisted suicide or an accident but it is still murder.

Remember Charles has spoken to the media for years. He had no filter and he would be the last person you would tell a secret to but I think he has some reason to think that something shady was going on and if Prince wanted to die the family should tell him so he can have peace.

I know it will not go over well because as a culture we just do not handle sucide well.

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Okay, but keep in mind, Chazz in not a part of the Nelson's inner-circle, so he is speculating as well.

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If someone knew Prince was going to commit suicide (if that is true), then they are an accomplice to murder. No one in their right mind would do that!! eek

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Reply #89 posted 01/03/18 3:38pm

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PeteSilas said:

the thing that screams intentional is the fact that prince's pill had enough fent to kill a whale, that's no kind of accident on the part of a person making it, that's an intentional pill to kill. that's my beliefe.

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Yes, but the pill was mislabeled.

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