laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

You do not have access to his medical file either, and unless you are family (which you are not) you don't have anymore info then the rest of us.

I have never said I had access to the medical file and if no one else does why keep saying we are all wrong and their assumptions are right on the money. They have nothing to back up their assumptions other then what the media and police have reported.

There is a hugh chunk of info none of use have including the media so how can anyone who does not have access to that medical record say that Prince had no other issues whatsoever.

They cannot not say that because they have no factual information concerning his overall health.

I do have some info that this poster does not have.

Laura, the same could be said for those who are saying he had a terminal illness. If nobody has access to the medical records, how can anyone say he had a terminal illness?

Basically none of know, and our comments are just our own opinions.

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

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Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

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Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

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I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

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His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

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If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

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What do you'all think?

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Peace, DD55

DD55 said:

No PennyPurple was never unfair to Mayte! Penny ran the book club and kept the discussions fair and didn't allow haters.... just people who wanted to disucss the book. Not everyone agreed all the time, but we were kind to each other.

Those were the good ole days.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said: —You do not have access to his medical file so who is being irrational. There is a Hugh chunk of info you do not have so you are wrong. I have some info you do not have. Have a good day and learn to stop believing everything you read in the media and know when you are missed directed.

Then shouldn't you be on the bus with MuleFunk?

MuleFunk can't wait to get to chicago!

DD55 said:

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

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Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

.

Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

.

I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

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His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

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If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

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What do you'all think?

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Peace, DD55

That could also mean that Prince was murdered, or (and that's what I think), he just didn't mention him, The book was about the crisis not Prince, why would he mention him? Just because Prince was from Minneapolis?

Those affected by suicide will always have scars on our hearts.

Interesting theory on Al Franken, and I'm surprised he didn't mention Prince.

DD55 said:

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

.

Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

.

Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

.

I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

.

His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

.

If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

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What do you'all think?

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Peace, DD55

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Mumio said: Funny that you claim that about PennyPurple, aren't you one of the people who loves to hate on Mayte? When I look back at some comment you made about her, it seems like an obsession too.

No PennyPurple was never unfair to Mayte! Penny ran the book club and kept the discussions fair and didn't allow haters.... just people who wanted to disucss the book. Not everyone agreed all the time, but we were kind to each other.

I didn't mean PennyPurple, I was talking to Mumio I know that PennyPurple wasn't unfair towards Mayte.

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

.

Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

.

Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

.

I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

.

His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

.

If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

.

What do you'all think?

.

Peace, DD55

That could also mean that Prince was murdered, or (and that's what I think), he just didn't mention him, The book was about the crisis not Prince, why would he mention him? Just because Prince was from Minneapolis?

Al speaks of his love for the state, the wonderful people, how proud he is of being senator.... I just can't shake the feeling that he would have mentioned how the opioid crisis took Prince, who is known to have loved MN. IDK.... just a feeling. Did you read the book?

edit for spelling.

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DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

That could also mean that Prince was murdered, or (and that's what I think), he just didn't mention him, The book was about the crisis not Prince, why would he mention him? Just because Prince was from Minneapolis?

Al speaks of his love for the state, the wonderful people, how proud he is of being senator.... I just can't shake the feeling that he would have mentioned how the opioid crisis took Prince, who is known to have loved MN. IDK.... just a feeling. Did you read the book?

edit for spelling.

[Edited 10/22/17 16:44pm]

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

fortuneandserendipity said:

Why do you insist that the simplest answer is always the truth? I thought you were the most flexible reasonable person on the org? No? Do you know how prince died? I am assuming the answer is no, so who are you to insist that your theories are correct? It doesn't matter what percentage of correctness you assign to your critical thinking, because just like everyone else...you do not know...but you are very very good at insulting anyone that dares to have differing ideas...hopefully you will never have a rare illness and have the Occam's razor theory applied to your diagnosis...that would suck

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Al speaks of his love for the state, the wonderful people, how proud he is of being senator.... I just can't shake the feeling that he would have mentioned how the opioid crisis took Prince, who is known to have loved MN. IDK.... just a feeling. Did you read the book?

edit for spelling.

[Edited 10/22/17 16:44pm]

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

And what would tempt a man of such high intellectual capacity and a more than reasonable use of inductive and deductive logic , to, in very short order, risk his life by ingesting the illegal substance(s), after having knowledge that the previous substance(s) he ingested days before, resulted in a near death outcome?

Either he had no control of reasoning with himself ,or, he no longer wanted to be reasonable.

DD55 said:

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

.

Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

.

Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

.

I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

.

His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

.

If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

.

What do you'all think?

.

Peace, DD55

Hi DD55, very thoughtful post...and BTW, Prince's "friends" and employees had all the time they needed to check for a note and hide or destroy same: elevator, bedroom, studio, vault...done.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

And what would tempt a man of such high intellectual capacity and a more than reasonable use of inductive and deductive logic , to, in very short order, risk his life by ingesting the illegal substance(s), after having knowledge that the previous substance(s) he ingested days before, resulted in a near death outcome?

Either he had no control of reasoning with himself ,or, he no longer wanted to be reasonable.

Maybe he didn't know what was wrong with the pills? Or maybe he was addicted and just didn't care.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

And what would tempt a man of such high intellectual capacity and a more than reasonable use of inductive and deductive logic , to, in very short order, risk his life by ingesting the illegal substance(s), after having knowledge that the previous substance(s) he ingested days before, resulted in a near death outcome?

Either he had no control of reasoning with himself ,or, he no longer wanted to be reasonable.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

DD55 said:

Not everyone plans their suicide the way some might think, and it could be planned (thought about) for a loooooong time, and the person is just waiting for the right time, or something triggers those thoughts into actions. You can make a case either way… many people give away a lot of stuff to people to whom they want to have those things, AND are still making plans. Did P do that? We don’t know.

.

Others are more spontaneous in appearance, they have been thinking about it a lot and then one day they decide that is the day. I know someoone who attempted and than God failed. But unfortunately, I know about this all too well. Someone I knew very well, the most gentle kindest women on the planet took her own life in 2010. She went on day to day, working, leading a ’normal’ life, did everything she was supposed to do daily, but in the mean time (about 6 months before her death) bought a gun, registered it, everything was legal, and she had the gun for a months…. then one day said she was going out for a run. Well, you know the end. What did or did not happen on that fateful day? What could have changed the course? We’ll never know.

.

Ok, let’s discuss this theory with regards to Prince, ok?

.

I have come to a new opinion that Prince’s death was due to suicide. (Pleae don’t run me off the org yet) I’ll tell you what makes me think that. I bought and read Al Frankin’s new book. It is fantastic by the way. He is one of the senators from MN. In the book, he does go into depth regarding the opioid crisis, substance abuse (his own wife had a drinking problem and a very good friend of his had a substance abuse problem) and he speaks to the problem of drugs in general in the USA; he tackles the issue head on, holding nothing back.

.

His book went to print a long while after Prince died. How can the Senator from Minnesota talk about the opioid crisis, substance abuse, pain meds out of control, and fentanyl and not once mention MN’s favorite ’son’ Prince? It doesn’t make sense to me…. and as Judge Judy says…if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

.

If P’s death were a simple OD, I think Al Franken would have mentioned it, as it is such a huge loss to everyone, but by omission and not acknowledging Prince’s death, and all the while talking about the drug problem of prescription medications….. IDK, makes me wonder if Al knows something we don’t and he will not print a lie (that Prince died of an accidental OD). That is what makes me think suicide. If course I could be wrong but to me that’s where my opinion is leaning these days.

.

What do you'all think?

.

Peace, DD55

Hi DD55, very thoughtful post...and BTW, Prince's "friends" and employees had all the time they needed to check for a note and hide or destroy same: elevator, bedroom, studio, vault...done.

Why in god's name would they do it? If I'm not mistaken they investigate this as a homicide, or did this change? What would be the reason to destroy the letter if Prince didn't say that he don't want the fans to know it was suicide, why would he write a letter anyway?

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Al speaks of his love for the state, the wonderful people, how proud he is of being senator.... I just can't shake the feeling that he would have mentioned how the opioid crisis took Prince, who is known to have loved MN. IDK.... just a feeling. Did you read the book?

edit for spelling.

[Edited 10/22/17 16:44pm]

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

No you're right it doesn't imply that he took his own life, but to me it implys that what we have been told, simple OD accident, is not the whole story. I made the leap to suicide because I don't think it was murder and that was the next logical reason to me.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

And what would tempt a man of such high intellectual capacity and a more than reasonable use of inductive and deductive logic , to, in very short order, risk his life by ingesting the illegal substance(s), after having knowledge that the previous substance(s) he ingested days before, resulted in a near death outcome?

Either he had no control of reasoning with himself ,or, he no longer wanted to be reasonable.

Maybe he didn't know what was wrong with the pills? Or maybe he was addicted and just didn't care.

Whether he knew what was in the batch of pills, or which pill would be the final pill he took, remains unsubstantiated . What we do know is that he was well aware of what hapened to him prior. It is not as if there was a sudden disapperance of all cognitive skills or the inability to recall the event.

Quantifying the severity of his addiction/dependence is subjective, but his actions pursuant to overdosing is not in dispute.

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

No, I didn't. Okay, it's kind of strange that he didn't mention him, but I don't think that this implies that P took his own life......

No you're right it doesn't imply that he took his own life, but to me it implys that what we have been told, simple OD accident, is not the whole story. I made the leap to suicide because I don't think it was murder and that was the next logical reason to me.

Not murder in the traditional way, no. But I do think that somebody gave him wrong labeled pills, maybe not intentionally, enabler if you will.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Hi DD55, very thoughtful post...and BTW, Prince's "friends" and employees had all the time they needed to check for a note and hide or destroy same: elevator, bedroom, studio, vault...done.

Why in god's name would they do it? If I'm not mistaken they investigate this as a homicide, or did this change? What would be the reason to destroy the letter if Prince didn't say that he don't want the fans to know it was suicide, why would he write a letter anyway?

Actually, I think they said the source of the drugs was an open investigation, not the death itself. I could be wrong. And yes there could have been a note.... in the confusion, a single sheet of paper could be hidden any where. They didn't search at large until days later. Maybe there was no note/letter. But it could have been suicide based on my theroy. That's why I brought it up for discussion to the group asking what they thought of the theory.

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Why in god's name would they do it? If I'm not mistaken they investigate this as a homicide, or did this change? What would be the reason to destroy the letter if Prince didn't say that he don't want the fans to know it was suicide, why would he write a letter anyway?

Actually, I think they said the source of the drugs was an open investigation, not the death itself. I could be wrong. And yes there could have been a note.... in the confusion, a single sheet of paper could be hidden any where. They didn't search at large until days later. Maybe there was no note/letter. But it could have been suicide based on my theroy. That's why I brought it up for discussion to the group asking what they thought of the theory.

But why would they hide or even destroy it? That's what doesn't add up here. Why would they do it? The only reason I can think of would be that Prince wrote this in the letter, but still, why would they say it was a simple OD if it was infact suicide? Further investigations wouldn't be necessary if it was that simple. 'Cause that would mean that Prince knew that he took the pill that contained Fentanyl.

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Actually, I think they said the source of the drugs was an open investigation, not the death itself. I could be wrong. And yes there could have been a note.... in the confusion, a single sheet of paper could be hidden any where. They didn't search at large until days later. Maybe there was no note/letter. But it could have been suicide based on my theroy. That's why I brought it up for discussion to the group asking what they thought of the theory.

But why would they hide or even destroy it? That's what doesn't add up here. Why would they do it? The only reason I can think of would be that Prince wrote this in the letter, but still, why would they say it was a simple OD if it was infact suicide? Further investigations wouldn't be necessary if it was that simple. 'Cause that would mean that Prince knew that he took the pill that contained Fentanyl.

The M.E. and the investigators could not have determine it was suicide because the guidelines set forth to establish such criteria were not met. However, there are no instruments or scientific analysis to gauge an impulsive thought or reaction that would lead one to commit suicide in that instant.

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Actually, I think they said the source of the drugs was an open investigation, not the death itself. I could be wrong. And yes there could have been a note.... in the confusion, a single sheet of paper could be hidden any where. They didn't search at large until days later. Maybe there was no note/letter. But it could have been suicide based on my theroy. That's why I brought it up for discussion to the group asking what they thought of the theory.

But why would they hide or even destroy it? That's what doesn't add up here. Why would they do it? The only reason I can think of would be that Prince wrote this in the letter, but still, why would they say it was a simple OD if it was infact suicide? Further investigations wouldn't be necessary if it was that simple. 'Cause that would mean that Prince knew that he took the pill that contained Fentanyl.

Yes That, I agree with you, but even if P knew what he took, it was still illegal and they are investigating the source. He could have written a note knowing that Kirk would most likely be the first one to be in the building the next day. And remember, it took 45 minutes to find P. What happened in the 45 min? .... sorry, going off course.

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

But why would they hide or even destroy it? That's what doesn't add up here. Why would they do it? The only reason I can think of would be that Prince wrote this in the letter, but still, why would they say it was a simple OD if it was infact suicide? Further investigations wouldn't be necessary if it was that simple. 'Cause that would mean that Prince knew that he took the pill that contained Fentanyl.

Yes That, I agree with you, but even if P knew what he took, it was still illegal and they are investigating the source. He could have written a note knowing that Kirk would most likely be the first one to be in the building the next day. And remember, it took 45 minutes to find P. What happened in the 45 min? .... sorry, going off course.

Okay, what you wanna say with that? Still suicide or another thing? I just don't see any reason to hide the letter, or even destroying it.

What happened in the 45 minutes? Well, only Kirk, the other two people and god knows, right?

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

But why would they hide or even destroy it? That's what doesn't add up here. Why would they do it? The only reason I can think of would be that Prince wrote this in the letter, but still, why would they say it was a simple OD if it was infact suicide? Further investigations wouldn't be necessary if it was that simple. 'Cause that would mean that Prince knew that he took the pill that contained Fentanyl.

The M.E. and the investigators could not have determine it was suicide because the guidelines set forth to establish such criteria were not met. However, there are no instruments or scientific analysis to gauge an impulsive thought or reaction that would lead one to commit suicide in that instant.

I know it, they didn't find such evidence, but some people on the org are almost sure that it was, when there's infact NO REAL EVIDENCE.

ThatWhiteDude said:

DD55 said:

Yes That, I agree with you, but even if P knew what he took, it was still illegal and they are investigating the source. He could have written a note knowing that Kirk would most likely be the first one to be in the building the next day. And remember, it took 45 minutes to find P. What happened in the 45 min? .... sorry, going off course.

Okay, what you wanna say with that? Still suicide or another thing? I just don't see any reason to hide the letter, or even destroying it.

What happened in the 45 minutes? Well, only Kirk, the other two people and god knows, right?

yeah, I really wasn't going anywhere, that's where/why I stopped. I still think suicide - my original theory presented to the group for discussion after reading Al's book. My only point was there was time to hide a note, if there were instructions in the note to do so.

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DD55

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, what you wanna say with that? Still suicide or another thing? I just don't see any reason to hide the letter, or even destroying it.

What happened in the 45 minutes? Well, only Kirk, the other two people and god knows, right?

yeah, I really wasn't going anywhere, that's where/why I stopped. I still think suicide - my original theory presented to the group for discussion after reading Al's book. My only point was there was time to hide a note, if there were instructions in the note to do so.

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DD55

But why writing a letter anyways if you want it to be destroyed? Just think about Chazz Smith, his cousin, he thinks that Prince was murdered, don't you think he got more information than we do?

DD55 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, what you wanna say with that? Still suicide or another thing? I just don't see any reason to hide the letter, or even destroying it.

What happened in the 45 minutes? Well, only Kirk, the other two people and god knows, right?

yeah, I really wasn't going anywhere, that's where/why I stopped. I still think suicide - my original theory presented to the group for discussion after reading Al's book. My only point was there was time to hide a note, if there were instructions in the note to do so.

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DD55

Out of respect for Prince's religious beliefs?

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

The M.E. and the investigators could not have determine it was suicide because the guidelines set forth to establish such criteria were not met. However, there are no instruments or scientific analysis to gauge an impulsive thought or reaction that would lead one to commit suicide in that instant.

I know it, they didn't find such evidence, but some people on the org are almost sure that it was, when there's infact NO REAL EVIDENCE.

Some people choose to look at the aggregate of circumstances that lead up to his death , coupled with a correlation to the behavioral sciences in order to conclude that suicide, is more plausible than the ideas of poisoning, bringing the black man down, CIA black ops operation, contract hit for murder, raptured, inside job, etc, etc.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I know it, they didn't find such evidence, but some people on the org are almost sure that it was, when there's infact NO REAL EVIDENCE.

Some people choose to look at the aggregate of circumstances that lead up to his death , coupled with a correlation to the behavioral sciences in order to conclude that suicide, is more plausible than the ideas of poisoning, bringing the black man down, CIA black ops operation, contract hit for murder, raptured, inside job, etc, etc.

I'm sorry but I take that as seeing what they want it to be. What circumstances? What behavirorals science? That he was alone? It wasn't unusual for him to be alone.

I don't believe that either, they treat this like the MJ case, they never said that it was treated like traditional murder.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I know it, they didn't find such evidence, but some people on the org are almost sure that it was, when there's infact NO REAL EVIDENCE.

Some people choose to look at the aggregate of circumstances that lead up to his death , coupled with a correlation to the behavioral sciences in order to conclude that suicide, is more plausible than the ideas of poisoning, bringing the black man down, CIA black ops operation, contract hit for murder, raptured, inside job, etc, etc.

I'm starting to change my mind; 'raptured' sounds exactly like how Prince would transition.