laurarichardson said:

bonatoc said:

Since when "We Can Funk" became "We Can Fuck"?
Like in "Erotic City", I always loved the ambiguity of it. Did he say it? Did he not?
Imagine Vanity 6 ending getting out as "Vagina 6".

Why choose blatant over an (OK, not so subtle) innuendo?
My guess is marketing shock value.
Causal 1984 fan in his.her forties: "Ooooh, there's a song called 'We Can Fuck', must be the cousin to 'Darling Nikki'! Quick, to the cash register!"

Not to mention it historically and artistically has no reason to be on PR Deluxe (same goes for a few other songs in the track list).
I'm glad we're having an outtakes disc, but it looks like a messy patchwork.
No artistic direction whatsoever.

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bonatoc said:

feeluupp said:

Well we all know by now the upcoming tracklisting and most of the songs on PR Deluxe... But according to Matthieu Bitton, there will be some sort of surprise and never before seen images and more "priceless" stuff in the packaging...

What are your thoughts?

Mathieu Bitton And let me counter that by saying that this isn't entirely true. No one had "Electric Intercourse," this version of "Katrina's Paper Dolls," " We Can Fuck," and the incredible movie version of "Father's Song." I can't get too into it but don't forget the family also had a say and although yes I'm a professional and have worked on over 800 albums, reissues, boxed sets, dvds etc, I am also a fan and did consult on this project. You obviously have heard the music and I agree with you that Father's Song is the most amazing thing on there. There is also some amazing (never seen) visual stuff that I helped provide and more priceless stuff in the packaging (I'll let that to WB to reveal). Let's down attack my friend who produced this either, I'm sure you have some idea of what it's like dealing with anything Prince related? Never easy, in life or death. And I have first hand experience in both. Have a great day.

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It was always my hope (whether Prince was alive or not) that if there was a PR deluxe release that there would be never B4 seen photos from the time period. Same goes with all the other albums possible re-releases/deluxes. I'm happy for this.

He said he took TONS of photos from the 1982-1984 period.

Uh oh, lange bleu's gone Donald Trump crazy.

langebleu said:

The thread subject is:

"Never before seen visual stuff" Included In Purple Rain Deluxe


Tracklisting content can be further discussed here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/442035

SNIP - OF4S refer 2 rule #7

SNIP - OF4S refer 2 rule #7

Must be the barn outtakes. We'll finally know if P's glans was actually purple.

Seriously, my guess is pictures from the set.

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leadline said:

feeluupp said:

Well we all know by now the upcoming tracklisting and most of the songs on PR Deluxe... But according to Matthieu Bitton, there will be some sort of surprise and never before seen images and more "priceless" stuff in the packaging...

What are your thoughts?

Mathieu Bitton And let me counter that by saying that this isn't entirely true. No one had "Electric Intercourse," this version of "Katrina's Paper Dolls," " We Can Fuck," and the incredible movie version of "Father's Song." I can't get too into it but don't forget the family also had a say and although yes I'm a professional and have worked on over 800 albums, reissues, boxed sets, dvds etc, I am also a fan and did consult on this project. You obviously have heard the music and I agree with you that Father's Song is the most amazing thing on there. There is also some amazing (never seen) visual stuff that I helped provide and more priceless stuff in the packaging (I'll let that to WB to reveal). Let's down attack my friend who produced this either, I'm sure you have some idea of what it's like dealing with anything Prince related? Never easy, in life or death. And I have first hand experience in both. Have a great day.

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Nothing against this person but what about people who actually worked on the PR album and movie. Surely they must have had stuff to add to the project. Prince had specific photographers he did work with back then and they are alive and well.

I cannot understand why outsiders have to be brought in and I think WB and the estate may be making a big mistake doing this as we all know "We Can Fuck" has nothing to do with PR and I know WB was going to put this project out with or without Prince's involvement but they could at least keep the music in some sort of time line.

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AnnaSantana said:

leadline said:

SNIP

SNIP

SNIP -OF4S

laurarichardson said:

feeluupp said:

Well we all know by now the upcoming tracklisting and most of the songs on PR Deluxe... But according to Matthieu Bitton, there will be some sort of surprise and never before seen images and more "priceless" stuff in the packaging...

What are your thoughts?

Mathieu Bitton And let me counter that by saying that this isn't entirely true. No one had "Electric Intercourse," this version of "Katrina's Paper Dolls," " We Can Fuck," and the incredible movie version of "Father's Song." I can't get too into it but don't forget the family also had a say and although yes I'm a professional and have worked on over 800 albums, reissues, boxed sets, dvds etc, I am also a fan and did consult on this project. You obviously have heard the music and I agree with you that Father's Song is the most amazing thing on there. There is also some amazing (never seen) visual stuff that I helped provide and more priceless stuff in the packaging (I'll let that to WB to reveal). Let's down attack my friend who produced this either, I'm sure you have some idea of what it's like dealing with anything Prince related? Never easy, in life or death. And I have first hand experience in both. Have a great day.

[Edited 6/3/17 19:14pm]

Nothing against this person but what about people who actually worked on the PR album and movie. Surely they must have had stuff to add to the project. Prince had specific photographers he did work with back then and they are alive and well.

I cannot understand why outsiders have to be brought in and I think WB and the estate may be making a big mistake doing this as we all know "We Can Fuck" has nothing to do with PR and I know WB was going to put this project out with or without Prince's involvement but they could at least keep the music in some sort of time line.

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Because Mathieu Bitton was involved. Just like we will have a 3rd disc of unreleased music from the period, they will include unreleased photose from that projecct.

No different than in they included a pullout of the unused painting for ATWIAD, it is still a part of the era.

And we are only hearing about what he is directly involved with. There could easily be others.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Nothing against this person but what about people who actually worked on the PR album and movie. Surely they must have had stuff to add to the project. Prince had specific photographers he did work with back then and they are alive and well.

I cannot understand why outsiders have to be brought in and I think WB and the estate may be making a big mistake doing this as we all know "We Can Fuck" has nothing to do with PR and I know WB was going to put this project out with or without Prince's involvement but they could at least keep the music in some sort of time line.

[Edited 6/5/17 5:32am]

Because Mathieu Bitton was involved. Just like we will have a 3rd disc of unreleased music from the period, they will include unreleased photose from that projecct.

No different than in they included a pullout of the unused painting for ATWIAD, it is still a part of the era.

And we are only hearing about what he is directly involved with. There could easily be others.

Well I hope they include people who were around back then. I still do not see why they needed this guy.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because Mathieu Bitton was involved. Just like we will have a 3rd disc of unreleased music from the period, they will include unreleased photose from that projecct.

No different than in they included a pullout of the unused painting for ATWIAD, it is still a part of the era.

And we are only hearing about what he is directly involved with. There could easily be others.

Well I hope they include people who were around back then. I still do not see why they needed this guy.

Because he was around and took hundreds of photos from the 1981-1984 period.

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Well I hope they include people who were around back then. I still do not see why they needed this guy.

Because he was around and took hundreds of photos from the 1981-1984 period.

I read his bio and it did not say anything about him working for Prince in fact he said in his bio he was nine in 1984. I think you are getting him confused with Allen Beaulieu who did take a lot of photos of Prince back then. He has 3,000 photos of Prince. So once again who the hell is Mattew to Allen. I say someone outsider getting a check.

http://kstp.com/news/photographer-allen-beaulieu-prince-photos-lawsuit/4299856/

Matt's bio

http://www.mathieubitton.fr/biography/

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Because he was around and took hundreds of photos from the 1981-1984 period.

I read his bio and it did not say anything about him working for Prince in fact he said in his bio he was nine in 1984. I think you are getting him confused with Allen Beaulieu who did take a lot of photos of Prince back then. He has 3,000 photos of Prince. So once again who the hell is Mattew to Allen. I say someone outsider getting a check.

http://kstp.com/news/photographer-allen-beaulieu-prince-photos-lawsuit/4299856/

Matt's bio

http://www.mathieubitton.fr/biography/

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Well I hope they include people who were around back then. I still do not see why they needed this guy.

Because he was around and took hundreds of photos from the 1981-1984 period.

I read his bio and it did not say anything about him working for Prince in fact he said in his bio he was nine in 1984. I think you are getting him confused with Allen Beaulieu who did take a lot of photos of Prince back then. He has 3,000 photos of Prince. So once again who the hell is Mattew to Allen. I say someone outsider getting a check.

http://kstp.com/news/photographer-allen-beaulieu-prince-photos-lawsuit/4299856/

Matt's bio

You see this kind of thing is the reason I left the org the first time around. Assumptions, some of which are ridiculous. You are right that I never photographed Prince and was in France and 11 years old when Purple Rain came out, however I worked with him on several projects and have over 800 releases under my belt and many are boxed sets and compilations just like this one. And in this case I had somethings no one else had, therefore it made sense. So yes "this guy" "Mattew" "Matt" (my name is Mathieu) actually brought something very special to the project and was happy to help with this and other things. And as you will see - and this is why this kind of things annoys me so much - you are wrong about another major point you are complaining about. But I'll let the release speak on that. Peace. Mattew, I mean Matt, I mean this guy, Mathieu

http://www.mathieubitton.fr/biography/

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laurarichardson said:

I read his bio and it did not say anything about him working for Prince in fact he said in his bio he was nine in 1984. I think you are getting him confused with Allen Beaulieu who did take a lot of photos of Prince back then. He has 3,000 photos of Prince. So once again who the hell is Mattew to Allen. I say someone outsider getting a check.

http://kstp.com/news/photographer-allen-beaulieu-prince-photos-lawsuit/4299856/

Matt's bio

Tangerine17 said:

You see this kind of thing is the reason I left the org the first time around. Assumptions, some of which are ridiculous. You are right that I never photographed Prince and was in France and 11 years old when Purple Rain came out, however I worked with him on several projects and have over 800 releases under my belt and many are boxed sets and compilations just like this one. And in this case I had somethings no one else had, therefore it made sense. So yes "this guy" "Mattew" "Matt" (my name is Mathieu) actually brought something very special to the project and was happy to help with this and other things. And as you will see - and this is why this kind of things annoys me so much - you are wrong about another major point you are complaining about. But I'll let the release speak on that. Peace. Mattew, I mean Matt, I mean this guy, Mathieu

http://www.mathieubitton.fr/biography/

[Edited 6/5/17 8:47am]

I am sorry but a orger belived you were around in 84 and I pointed out you were not around and I woud be curious to know what exactly you worked on with Prince? What albums and when and what could you have that has anything to do with PR?

These question are not unusual as you were nine in 1984. I would love to see Allen Beaulieu 3,000 photos and I wonder why he was not consulted. We need old heads for these projects and since many are alive and well what is the reason they are not being utlizled?

You want assumptions I hope WB is not making an assumption that fans are going to buy whatever they throw out and I hope they learned their lesson with "Prince4Ever"

ufoclub said:

EnDoRpHn said:

ufoclub said:

Uh oh, lange bleu's gone Donald Trump crazy.

Clearly a government bureaucrat in his regular life.

dont talk bad about lange..I love him (still).

laurarichardson said:

Tangerine17 said:

Silvertongue7 said:

Tangerine17 said:

Ill answer more when the project is out. I was 11 then. But it's normal to work on legacy projects that you may not have been involved with originally. After all, I Workes on a bunch of Miles Davis releases including the Bitches Brew 40th Anniversay Box set (which I gave to Prince at his house incidentally). Anyway, it's impossible to please a lot of Prince fans and I'm happy with what WB did on this. And in case you didn't know I worked on marketing of the "Live at the Aladdin Las Vegas," co-produced and Art Directed/Designed "Ultimate Prince" and some other projects that didn't see the light of day (including an unreleased Ballads collection called When 2R In Love). And as I said, you will get other answers when you have the beautiful release in your hands. And eventually another project I'm currently working on. Have a good day. PS: I had actually discussed Deluxe Editions of Prince's albums with him when he saw the Lenny Kravitz Deluxes I produced and designed as well as the James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder etc deluxes I designed.

Yourself and a couple of other people are making me get really excited about this... Thank you. I understand if you can't say anything else, but what sort of time frame would we be talking about for the other project you're currently working on? Any chance we'll get more music this year?

Will there be any upcoming deluxe editions from the estate besides PR DELUXE??

Tangerine17 said:

laurarichardson said:

Tangerine17 said:

laurarichardson said:

--I am sure it is normal for people to work on projects they were not involved with originally but why in this case not use them. Has anyone even asked? Prince did mention the ballad project once in an interview and how old WB put the quash on the project.

As I said, you will see the answer to your question on the release.

Is there anything else you could share us about the upcoming PR Deluxe release... Do you know of any promotion because 3 weeks left before the release we have seen literally no promotion what so ever from the estate or WB.