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Reply #150 posted 05/22/17 12:52pm

precioux

This is ludicrous...now I'm finding YET another inconsistancy. Which phuecking one is it?! First they report that the pills found at PP were Watson 385 and these were discontinued in 2012/2013...now the warrant states Watson 853. There is a HUGE difference, not only in the makeup/mgs but also whether or not they were being manufactured at the time of Prince's death should be relevant as to point to "more likely" being black market if in fact these pills were discontinued. If in fact, the pills were stamped Watson 853, that gives me pause since these ARE currently still being manufactured. Someone got it wrong, and I'm curious as to which "stamp" was on the pills. Now I'm starting to doubt the warrants, because in the original report, it specifically stated Watson 385 and pointed out that these had been discontinued which led to the higher possibility of these Watson's" being black market.

morningsong said:

precioux said:



Yes, it IS a legit marking...how thick in the head are you??? That is NOT what was FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!

Watson 385 was found at PP, which (if legit) contained 500 mg of acetamenophine/10mg hydrocodone).AND These pills were DISCONTINUED in 2012/2013!


So, NO- it is HIGHLY unlikely that these pills were "legit"



To be fair, this information keeps being sifted around so much, nobody can keep track on the difference between 385, 853, 852 so on and so forth. I wish people would keep that in mind in their typing.

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Reply #151 posted 05/22/17 12:54pm

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leadline said:


Of course they said they did not do anything smile Now I am NOT, let me repeat, NOT saying they were complicit in anything, but if you were guilty of being complicit, how would you respond to that?

I know what you are saying. The only thing I found weird about them was checking to see if he ate his food after he died. Why was that important? I read a review of the restaurant in Minneapolis and a few people complained about most of the staff appearing to be tripping on some substances as the wait services was really bad.


Yes, there is simply no good reason I can think of as to why whether he ate his dinner or not has any relevance.

[Edited 5/22/17 13:30pm]

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Reply #152 posted 05/22/17 12:59pm

morningsong

precioux said:

This is ludicrous...now I'm finding YET another inconsistancy. Which phuecking one is it?! First they report that the pills found at PP were Watson 385 and these were discontinued in 2012/2013...now the warrant states Watson 853. There is a HUGE difference, not only in the makeup/mgs but also whether or not they were being manufactured at the time of Prince's death should be relevant as to point to "more likely" being black market if in fact these pills were discontinued. If in fact, the pills were stamped Watson 853, that gives me pause since these ARE currently still being manufactured. Someone got it wrong, and I'm curious as to which "stamp" was on the pills. Now I'm starting to doubt the warrants, because in the original report, it specifically stated Watson 385 and pointed out that these had been discontinued which led to the higher possibility of these Watson's" being black market.

morningsong said:



To be fair, this information keeps being sifted around so much, nobody can keep track on the difference between 385, 853, 852 so on and so forth. I wish people would keep that in mind in their typing.



I've been thrown for a loop because I kept mixing the 2 up in my mind. Then I'd google it and couldn't find the info I found last year. Now it's gotten worse because if Kirk can get prescriptions for other Watson pills why not the 853s? Why would Prince need black market 853s? It made sense (using the term lightly) when it was assumed that the pills Prince might have been accustom to were no longer manufactured, but now is that the case or not? Did numbers just get transposed in earlier articles?

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Reply #153 posted 05/22/17 1:27pm

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laurarichardson said:



leadline said:




laurarichardson said:



Well like I said from Facebook the chefs said they did not do anything and that they were lied to about his health




Of course they said they did not do anything smile Now I am NOT, let me repeat, NOT saying they were complicit in anything, but if you were guilty of being complicit, how would you respond to that?



I know what you are saying. The only thing I found weird about them was checking to see if he ate his food after he died. Why was that important? I read a review of the restaurant in Minneapolis and a few people complained about most of the staff appearing to be tripping on some substances as the wait services was really bad.




Was that the first thing he did? Did he actually say 'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food'? And oh, someone gave his restaurant a bad review. How is that relevant to anything?
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Reply #154 posted 05/22/17 2:01pm

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laytonian said:

. By the way, anyone with half a brain knows you do not eat pineapple or grapefruit with meds.



If I only had half of a brain then maybe I would have known that but being cursed with a whole brain this knowledge has never come my way.

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Reply #155 posted 05/22/17 2:10pm

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No the chef didn't say "'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food."

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I think people are thinking of this Tribune interview, that ended with the line "When he [Roberts, the chef] returned to the musician's studio home for his memorial service a few days later, Roberts found [Prince's final dinner] in the refrigerator — just as he'd left it."

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http://www.chicagotribune...story.html

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laurarichardson said:

I know what you are saying. The only thing I found weird about them was checking to see if he ate his food after he died. Why was that important? I read a review of the restaurant in Minneapolis and a few people complained about most of the staff appearing to be tripping on some substances as the wait services was really bad.

Was that the first thing he did? Did he actually say 'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food'? And oh, someone gave his restaurant a bad review. How is that relevant to anything?

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Reply #156 posted 05/22/17 2:40pm

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Someone knew that these pills had fentanyl in them and someone wanted him dead. Even if he took one thinking it was hydrocodone. Or oxycodone. Someone, knew that a very lethal dose of fentanyl was in these pills.

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Reply #157 posted 05/22/17 2:49pm

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laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

Ive only read 3.

I believe the story is in DMSR. He jumped into the tub that was not secure doing a soundcheck and the tub fell down 20 feet to the back of the stage.

Its in that book? I got to sit down and finally read that this summer

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #158 posted 05/22/17 2:50pm

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leadline said:

laurarichardson said:

According to Andre he was the only one of their group that did finish.


Interesting, did not know that.

wait..Prince didnt finish HS? Thats bullshit I think.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #159 posted 05/22/17 2:52pm

miamibaby

precioux said:



miamibaby said:


purplethunder3121 said:


I still don't see how this information adds to or changes what we knew before.



It's a lot more fentanyl that I thought. At first we heard Prince had enough to kill 3 men but now it sounds like he had enough to kill like 20 men. Fent blood level at 3 milligrams fatal,and Prince had 68 milligrams ! He must have passed in seconds. sad [Edited 5/21/17 23:18pm]

1. This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!


2. No, it said 68 mg is the most one can handle without being fatal (?) Prince's liver showed over 435 mg!!!!!




This is MORE than 3 grains of salt....DEAR LORD!!!!!



Edit to add....something is not right with the statement, I re-read it and it says P had 68 mg of fentanyl in his system but in the same statement it says his liver showed 435 mg and that anything over 69 mg is lethal...something is not computing.

[Edited 5/22/17 10:50am]


Read again . The op stated blood levels first, then stated liver levels and you meshed them together. Prince had a blood level of fen 67.8 and anything over 3. is lethal. Then the liver level of fen is was 435 mg and 69 mgs of fen in liver is lethal. First figure is blood levels second figure is liver levels
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Reply #160 posted 05/22/17 3:25pm

rogifan

disch said:

No the chef didn't say "'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food."


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I think people are thinking of this Tribune interview, that ended with the line "When he [Roberts, the chef] returned to the musician's studio home for his memorial service a few days later, Roberts found [Prince's final dinner] in the refrigerator — just as he'd left it."


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http://www.chicagotribune...story.html



rogifan said:


laurarichardson said:


I know what you are saying. The only thing I found weird about them was checking to see if he ate his food after he died. Why was that important? I read a review of the restaurant in Minneapolis and a few people complained about most of the staff appearing to be tripping on some substances as the wait services was really bad.





Was that the first thing he did? Did he actually say 'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food'? And oh, someone gave his restaurant a bad review. How is that relevant to anything?

[Edited 5/22/17 14:11pm]


Ok well that doesn't seem strange at all.
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Reply #161 posted 05/22/17 3:54pm

morningsong

rdhull said:

leadline said:


Interesting, did not know that.

wait..Prince didnt finish HS? Thats bullshit I think.



He graduated, it's in his yearbook. Google it.

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Reply #162 posted 05/22/17 3:58pm

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morningsong said:

rdhull said:

wait..Prince didnt finish HS? Thats bullshit I think.



He graduated, it's in his yearbook. Google it.


Yep, we settled that earlier smile

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Reply #163 posted 05/22/17 4:27pm

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I agree. But who?

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Reply #164 posted 05/22/17 4:50pm

heathilly

seems being secretive caused more problems than just getting proper help.

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Reply #165 posted 05/22/17 5:30pm

precioux

Case in point...the OP's article even states the fake illicit pills were stamped Watson 385- so here is yet another article in addition to the original AP report that stated the same stamp of 385 in Aug of 2016- but yet the warrant states Watson 853. I'm starting to think the jokers investigating are highly incompetent if they are going to carelessly transpose the imprint on the most vital pill in connection to Prince's death. Unreal
[Edited 5/22/17 17:31pm]
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Reply #166 posted 05/22/17 5:50pm

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Those numbers are alarming!! eek

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This is why I firmly believe that Prince was unaware of what he was taking.

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Foul-play. Someone knowingly, or unknowingly gave him those bad pills. sad

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Reply #167 posted 05/22/17 5:52pm

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donnyenglish said:

This is consistent with the view that he had no idea that he was taking fentanyl. While other opioids are dangersous, they would not have killed him that day. Help was on the way. Hard for me not to want those who had anything to do with supplying the fentanyl laced pills to be brought to justice. Prince should be here today.

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I have firmly believed from the very beginning that Prince was unaware of what he was actually taking. Someone knowingly or unknowingly gave him those bad pills, but WHO?? confused

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Reply #168 posted 05/22/17 5:55pm

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leadline said:

Superfan1984 said:

people are interested because something doesn't seem right. To me, this is looking like murder. I don't care what anyone says. Sure is funny that someone from his camp planted a story the week before that he had Aids and would "die before summer" and then this. Not right. confused


Superfan1984 you are probably right, as time goes on, and we get more pieces, it does look like that, and things get stranger and more convoluted every month. I really hope in time that it is shown not to be the case.

That psychic (same one from recent big thread here) did say back on April 23rd 2016 in her youtube video that Prince himself came to her and told her he was dosed, and the dose was injected in a pineapple, then those pineapple chunks were put in his juice. She mentioned the pills themselves were planted after the fact and that Prince found out a few days earlier (in between the airplane landing and his passing) that he was being slowly poisoned over time via his food, which would account for his appearance and digestive issues he was having in 2016. He thought he had lime disease when he went to the doctor according to the woman in the video.


She also said there was enough to kill an elephant (which we just pretty much verified here)


Say what you will, but she has been correct in so many things she has said, before any of us knew the info. So while this stuff seems to be discounted immediately, everyone seems to be watching and debating as fact all the trash, lies and nonsense Reelz documentaries and other shows have been spewing.



But please, keep on believing Prince had alzeimers and forgot he already took a pill or something like that. Also very conveinant the Reelz video to support the narrative already in place.


Only a handful of options that I can see, most of which make no sense.


Prince was an addict his whole life? No, this is just common sense
Prince accidentally overdosed? Not likely, the dude had laser focus his whole life
The pills were mislabeled or the dosage info was wrong. Perhaps

OR
There were no pills involved that night and Prince was taken out with a dose that could kill an elephant in his drink, for reasons and by who none of us will likely ever know.

Likely given how nothing else seems to fit, and the more we hear, the more this horrifying prospect seems a possibility.


If you don't think that things have made no sense over the last year, I don't know what to say. All possibilities exist until proven otherwise. Right now, Prince is being written off as just another addict rock star that died, it's a cryin shame, but that is how the masses will percieve it until the end of time unless some bombshell drops, which I highly doubt will happen.

I know you folks discount this stuff immediately (without ever watching the supporting videos in part or to completion), and bash anyone who talks about it, regardless of whether stuff they say lines up or not, so let the hate posts commence.

I have no idea if this stuff is true, but as the stuff that has been said keeps lining up, it is very hard not to come back to this as a possibility.

Ultimately though these youtube videos (including reelz) are proof of nothing, and there is nothing any of us can do about anything other than wait and hope that whatever the truth is, that it is discovered at some point and accurately delivered.

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^^ Excellent post and I agree! ^^ nod thumbs up!

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Reply #169 posted 05/22/17 6:01pm

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:
Like I said he managed to escape gossip for so long and I remember seeing an item on Crazy Days and Nights saying he had been in the hospital for sespis. Why all of sudden was his health business in the gossip pages?

Also if he had any sort of illness what so of person would tell it to a gossip page.

. That sepsis report was obviously a cover-up for something else. Read it carefully and then look at his concert sched. It doesn't add up. We have read he had been hospitalized twice in two years and there was also a mention of dwtox. . As for the AIDS thing, that came out after the plane landing. Someone made up a story and sold it. As has been explained many times, if he'd have had that, he wouldn't have been having sex our being thisclose to anyone in the past few years. Every state and the Feds have an AIDS registry. . I'm afraid drug addiction was his biggest shame and it should not have been. .

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I certainly don't deny that Prince had a depedency on pain pills, but his death is very suspicious. When you see the levels of Fentanyl that he had in his system you know there was foul-play. I just cannot fathom the thought of Prince taking those pills, knowing what they actually were. eek

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Reply #170 posted 05/22/17 6:06pm

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precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Unfortunalty, yes which made me reluctant to look at her videos and to be honest it took weeks for me to finish listening to them because she goes off on these insane rants that have nothing to do with anything at all.

A orger suggested I give it a listen and after a long time I did. I can tell you these videos were done well over a year ago and she has been correct about quite a few things. It is creepy and weird.

The only thing that she has said so far that has not been verified is this stuff about him being posioned via his food. I know that one of the crazies on Facebook accused the chefs fo posinoing him and one of the chefs sent back a message saying they would never do such a thing but that they had been lied to about his health.

This post was discussed in the Facebook pages but I never saw the screen shot so I cannot verify it but this was after her video had gone up about his health being bad.

It just makes things even more insane then they already her what with Andrien and the Atlanta promoter saying he mentioned not feeling well and having to go back to his doctor to find out what was going on. Why go back to the doctor to find out what was going on if he knew he was withdrawing from pain meds who would have known why he was feeling bad.

Anyway crazy lady is supposed to go back to Paisley Park for his birthday so expect more screaming and cussing eek

And maybe...just maybe, P was suspicious of this, hence his refusal to eat his last meal. Especially if he was trying to figure out what was wrong, and by this point he trusted NO ONE!

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Yes, and this would also explain why there are reports that Prince seemed "agitated" the day before. eek

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Reply #171 posted 05/22/17 6:13pm

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precioux said:

Case in point...the OP's article even states the fake illicit pills were stamped Watson 385- so here is yet another article in addition to the original AP report that stated the same stamp of 385 in Aug of 2016- but yet the warrant states Watson 853. I'm starting to think the jokers investigating are highly incompetent if they are going to carelessly transpose the imprint on the most vital pill in connection to Prince's death. Unreal [Edited 5/22/17 17:31pm]

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WTF??!! omfg

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Image result for hell to the no gifs

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Reply #172 posted 05/22/17 6:27pm

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Clover, what you "hell to the no" girl? LOL!
Did you read BOTH articles (and several others) that stated the pills were stamped 385?all other pills on these reports were backed up in the warrants as well, but the Watson is transposed? That's what I'm "hell no'ing"....they even went as far as to describe why these pills were more than likely black market because they were discontinued in 2013 bc there was a law passed where manufacturers could no longer include more than 325 mg of acetaminophen-hence the discontinuance of the 385's because they contained 500 mg of acetaminophen. These articles were published almost a year apart. Like I said, all other pills were accounted for and documented correctly in the reports and in conjunction with the warrants, but the one pill being investigated-the #'s are misconstrued/transposed??? Nah,don't think so




cloveringold85 said:



precioux said:


Case in point...the OP's article even states the fake illicit pills were stamped Watson 385- so here is yet another article in addition to the original AP report that stated the same stamp of 385 in Aug of 2016- but yet the warrant states Watson 853. I'm starting to think the jokers investigating are highly incompetent if they are going to carelessly transpose the imprint on the most vital pill in connection to Prince's death. Unreal [Edited 5/22/17 17:31pm]

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WTF??!! omfg


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Reply #173 posted 05/22/17 6:47pm

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nelcp777 said:


And they found 2 dozen of these pills at PP.



Actually they found close to 100 of the Watson 853 pills at PP.



This is not a lot for someone in chronic pain. I get A total of 180 pills every month. Just saying.....
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Reply #174 posted 05/22/17 9:03pm

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1. Whether he ate his supper or not is irrelevant. It will be noted in the full autopsy report but its a moot point.
2. That psychic lady is bat shit crazy. I cant believe anyone is even giving her comments consideration. wacky
3. If someone unknowingly gave him laced pills its a stretch to say foul play.
4. His agitation was likely due to withdrawl and his need for a fix.
5. No idea where this AIDS narrative cane from or why it even got any traction?!?
6. Prince didnt know the pills were laced or tainted.
7. The direct supplier may not have known either. And they for sure wouldnt have known how nuch they were tainted as its a crap shoot. There is no quality control in the illicit drugs business i imagine.
To me it nothing significant has changed with this latest news. As i said hes still gone and he still died die to fentanyl toxicity due to an accidental self administered overdose. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest this was pre-meditated murder. rolleyes
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Reply #175 posted 05/22/17 9:47pm

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morningsong said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I find it really sad that people are more interested in this than his music.




That's not true. The music isn't going to vanish in thin air like the person.

I agree with you Morningsong.
I love his music but am still very upset this was not Princes doing. He had no idea what was those pills were but whoever brought them into PP did and from what we have heard would not have been able to touch the laced pills with out being protected
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Reply #176 posted 05/22/17 10:04pm

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It would be nice if it can be cleared up by a typed, official source, whether the pills were stamped 385s, 853s, 835s or whatever? Yeah, I get it, nothing's going to bring him back, so what difference does it make? I haven't reached that level of consciousness yet. My wacky pendulum is swinging in all kinds of directions with this new tiny bit of info. Wish they hadn't published it.
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Reply #177 posted 05/23/17 12:15am

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Toxic levels is not the same as lethal levels.

Your body can deal with toxic levels for various periods of time.
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Reply #178 posted 05/23/17 5:38am

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sonshine said:

1. Whether he ate his supper or not is irrelevant. It will be noted in the full autopsy report but its a moot point.
2. That psychic lady is bat shit crazy. I cant believe anyone is even giving her comments consideration. wacky
3. If someone unknowingly gave him laced pills its a stretch to say foul play.
4. His agitation was likely due to withdrawl and his need for a fix.
5. No idea where this AIDS narrative cane from or why it even got any traction?!?
6. Prince didnt know the pills were laced or tainted.
7. The direct supplier may not have known either. And they for sure wouldnt have known how nuch they were tainted as its a crap shoot. There is no quality control in the illicit drugs business i imagine.
To me it nothing significant has changed with this latest news. As i said hes still gone and he still died die to fentanyl toxicity due to an accidental self administered overdose. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest this was pre-meditated murder.
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Just highlighting some things for emphasis..... wink #2....yes, yes, yes! Every word other word out of her mouth is a profanity. Is that really necessary?
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Reply #179 posted 05/23/17 7:56am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

I know what you are saying. The only thing I found weird about them was checking to see if he ate his food after he died. Why was that important? I read a review of the restaurant in Minneapolis and a few people complained about most of the staff appearing to be tripping on some substances as the wait services was really bad.

Was that the first thing he did? Did he actually say 'the first thing I did was check the fridge to see if he ate his food'? And oh, someone gave his restaurant a bad review. How is that relevant to anything?

Actually in the interviews he he made a big point of looking in the fridge to see that the dinner was in there and was discussing Prince's eating habits with the media almost immeditatly. As far the restaurant review it had more to do with all of the workers appearing to be high out of their ass and able to take food orders.

Just made wonder who the chefs are associating with as birds of a feather flock together. It is also bad for business to have a bunch drug heads interacting with your customers.

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