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Thread started 05/07/17 8:27am

MiceElfAgin

Prince's Hohner – ever seen another one with Hohner branding?

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Reply #1 posted 05/07/17 2:29pm

TXfan

That's so Prince
Even his guitar is a fu**ing mystery. Lol
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/17 2:43pm

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #3 posted 05/08/17 10:20am

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Reply #4 posted 05/08/17 11:01am

crimesofparis

I believe I read that, in addition to the actual HS Anderson, he had luthiers build replicas. That would explain why they're just a little different from anything else out there. That's probably why the second one didn't have a logo on the headstock at all.
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Reply #5 posted 05/08/17 11:13am

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #6 posted 05/08/17 12:36pm

RodeoSchro

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MiceElfAgin said:

Is there any info perhaps in the new Paisley Park book on his guitars? Or is it only photos?



Yes, there is a lot of information in that book. Prince had a whole bunch of copies made, and they weren't Hohners. But he insisted that no matter who made the copy, it had to have a Hohner sticker on the headstock.

For those interested even in the least bit about Prince's guitars, that book is FANTASTIC. I recommend it.

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Reply #7 posted 05/08/17 12:52pm

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #8 posted 05/08/17 1:51pm

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MiceElfAgin

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Reply #10 posted 05/08/17 2:19pm

crimesofparis

MiceElfAgin said:


Well, sounds like the answer to your first question is, presently, no, and that the answer to your second question is less than 500. From that wording, sounds like significantly less than 500.

Sorry that you haven't gotten more answers, but it doesn't help if a bunch of people answer "no" to "has anyone seen..." If there were fewer than 500 made in the 70s, there probably just aren't a lot around to be seen close to 40 years later. And if they were intermediate level guitars then the buyers were probably less likely to be seen, ya know?

It might be possible to get a count on how many were made with Hohner branding by reaching out to Hohner. There might be some archival info on that.
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MiceElfAgin

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Reply #13 posted 05/09/17 12:19am

TXfan

Think about it, even the bass guitar (nobody's even sure who the mfg is for this guitar) which the cloud guitar was based on is a mystery. The 70's was a funky decade for keeping records I guess. It's weird that his Hohner copies even had to have the logo. It's like he wanted to keep the Hohner legend alive. It's been said that the original pickguard material has been out of production for a while now. Where did the people making the copies get the pickguard material used on these guitars? I know it's really hard finding anything remotely close to the correct leopard pattern these days but his Hohner copies always looked correct to me.
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Reply #14 posted 05/09/17 2:16am

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #15 posted 05/09/17 7:45pm

TXfan

MiceElfAgin said:



You say "his Hohner copies always looked correct" – excuse me, but how do you know you saw a copy? Have you seen 2 or more next to each other and they looked identical? So far I've only seen one of the spare ones he had and that didn't have a logo on it at all. And his original one has a pearloid inlay logo, not a sticker.


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You're right, I said that assuming the guitars he had were copies. I read an article after he passed where they interviewed the guy who made the copies for him. Don't remember exactly how many he made but he did say a couple were made to spray the liquid like he did at the end of Purple Rain. Guess it was for the tour too. Also, you would think after he died any Real Hohners out there would have all been on eBay going for huge sums of cash. I did see some Madcats but don't remember one real Hohner for sale. It seems to be a very rare guitar and I think he knew it. I'd be happy to own at least the Madcat version, it certainly is a beautiful guitar.
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Reply #16 posted 05/09/17 8:37pm

MachineElf

TXfan said:


You're right, I said that assuming the guitars he had were copies. I read an article after he passed where they interviewed the guy who made the copies for him. Don't remember exactly how many he made but he did say a couple were made to spray the liquid like he did at the end of Purple Rain. Guess it was for the tour too.




That was Roger Sadowsky, who made two 'standard' copies of the Hohners, plus two copies designed to spray liquid (the 'Ejacucasters'). He also made the purple Teles with flowers on it seen in subsequent years (e.g. the America video).

Here's what Sadowsky said about the guitars last year:

"I was brought in just as they were beginning rehearsals for the Purple Rain tour and personally delivered every guitar to Minneapolis.

First, I made two copies of his Hohner Tele as Hohner had discontinued the guitar at that time.
Second, I made two more Hohner copies that ejaculated! In the Purple Rain movie, there is a scene where he climbs to the top of a huge mountain of speakers, grabs a guitar and masturbates the neck until the guitar ejaculates onto the audience. The guitar was a prop and connected to a tank of Ivory Liquid off stage. Prince wanted a fully playable guitar that could also ejaculate. I ran copper tubing along the side of the truss rod and it terminated at the tip of the head stock. On the body side, it terminated in a compartment we routed in the back so they could install their solenoid valve that connected to the tank of Ivory Liquid. I called these two guitars the Ejacucasters!
The final two were two different T-style guitars, both purple with flowers."

[So, to be clear: 2 x Hohner Tele copies, 2 x Hohner-style ‘Ejacucasters”, 2 x Teles painted and decorated with flowers.]

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Reply #17 posted 05/09/17 8:41pm

MachineElf

Sadowsky with one of the Hohner-style Telecasters that he made for Prince.

Roger Sadowsky with Telecaster

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Reply #18 posted 05/10/17 1:08am

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Reply #20 posted 05/10/17 5:55pm

TXfan

I stand corrected again. Lol
You're good with the facts.
When I say Madcat I meant the H.S. Anderson version.
The pic with Sadowsky and that guitar seems to have his name on it, is that correct? And if that is a guitar made for Prince then he must have had a few things changed, like the pickguard and the logo.
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Reply #21 posted 05/10/17 5:57pm

TXfan

That guitar looks the current Harley Benton TE-80. Lol
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Reply #22 posted 05/11/17 2:04am

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #23 posted 05/11/17 5:02pm

TXfan

It's been fun discussing these guitars. You're never too old or young to learn something new. I wish some of Prince's guitar techs would come forward and share some of the stories of these guitars. I'm sure they remember almost every time they had to be repaired and what caused some of the damage. Also would like to know what pickups and electrics were used in these guitars. I'm sure Prince had some secret combinations of pickups,electrics, and wiring he like to use.
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Reply #24 posted 05/11/17 11:51pm

Boydie

I read a while ago that he tried KINMAN pickups but then changed to Fender Vintage Noiseless STRAT pickups in his Mad Cats

Here is some more info: http://www.photopix.ch/gu...age_id=308
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/17 12:21am

MiceElfAgin

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Reply #27 posted 05/12/17 6:31am

mediumdry

Personally, I feel that now that he's gone it is the perfect time to lift the veil. Like you said, his secret was his work ethic. He was better than most everyone because of innate talent, which was all brought out by incessant rehearsing. (and his fierce competitiveness, he always wanted to win, wether a game of pingpong or a fun(ky) guitar lick or run)

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And seeing as his signal chain was fairly simple, it makes it all the more amazing. I hope the info will be shared sooner rather than later. Would be great to get a book that combines his approach to making music and recording with pictures of all his stuff. Like the Guitar & Bass book, but for instrument and recording geeks.

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Not sure if books like that have been written about other artists already that could be used as a blueprint. Does anyone know?

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Reply #28 posted 05/12/17 6:42am

jazzz

MiceElfAgin said:

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I was just wondering if anyone ever saw a guitar that's exactly the same model, as Prince's.

I don't mean an original HS Anderson Mad Cat, and obviously I don't mean any of the reissues either.

I mean one that looks EXACTLY like Prince's guitar, with the Hohner pearl inlay logo on it.

I never ever even saw a picture of another one. I could be wrong on this, but as far as I know not even Prince had a second one with that Hohner logo (his second MadCat didn't have a headstock logo at all.)

Anyone has any info on how many could've been made back then with the Hohner logo? I remember reading that the original HS Anderson Mad Cat was limited to 500, but never saw any info on the Hohner-branded edition.

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Interesting that in the above original post, 6 out of your 7 sentences start with "I"...let's call that shrink in Beverly Hills...

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Reply #29 posted 05/12/17 7:07am

mediumdry

I don't think that's a problem.... cool

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