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Reply #1320 posted 05/10/17 12:40pm

moonsister
The Rx pill BOTTLES found at Prince's that had Kirk's name on them were for vitamin D and ondansetron, a nausea medicine. There were no Rx pill bottles for any Percocet, Vicodin, or any other opioid.
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Reply #1321 posted 05/10/17 12:42pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



precioux said:




1Sasha said:



That's where I'm at right now. Out of all those pill bottles, he gets the Fentanyl-laced pill(s)? It doesn't make sense.



Take this into consideration. Prince dies from ONE Fentanyl laced pill. The authorities chemically tested only ONE pill as well(maybe 2?). Who's to say the other 96 and a couple of 1/4 pills did not contain Fentanyl as well?



Did the search warrants state they only tested one pill?




I read that authorities had tested AT LEAST one of the illicit Vicodins, and found the same amount of fentanyl in it that they did in Prince's body, which was enough to kill several men.
https://www.google.com/se...LALs8_vHM:
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Reply #1322 posted 05/10/17 12:43pm

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:



moonsister said:


kmama07 said:
There is potentially a reason he couldn't get his own meds as often as he needed them. Hear me out. Also, this info pertains to the state of Michigan. Could be different elsewhere. Drs will only prescribe a certain dose and amount of pills per prescription for no more than thirty days (for opioids). They will sometimes only prescribe for 10 days to two weeks at a time. However it is prescribed, in order to get refills you have to actually see the Dr. each time to refill your prescription (unless there are extenuating circumstances such as being in a hospice situation). Remember, these pills are normally prescribed to be taken every four-6 hours as needed, with no more than 6 pills a day being taken. So if someone has a prescription for a 30 day supply, takes it as prescribed at one pill every 4 hours, that is 180 pills per month IF TAKEN AS PRESCRIBED. As often happens with opioids, tolerance is built pretty quickly so what happens is when one pill normally helped for 4 hours, it now takes two. Then three, then four, etc. So it is easy for someone to have gone through their entire months prescription in as little as two weeks. Sometimes sooner than that. After months/years of using these prescriptions, it is NOT uncommon or unheard of for people to be taking 20, 40, 60 pills A DAY to help manage their pain/ keep ahead of the tolerance they have built up to the medication. This is why people seek sources other than their primary physicians : "Dr. Shopping", pills online from what may or may not be a verified pharmaceutical source, dealers (who can make up to $100 PER PILL in the area I'm from), etc. [Edited 5/10/17 9:55am] [Edited 5/10/17 9:58am]

Prince didn't need a legitimate scrip for oxy because he had an illegal source for oxy and plenty of money to buy oxy illegally. This illegal oxy probably came from China, and has killed people all over America because some of this oxy is laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is cheap and is also a powerful pain killer. But fentanyl is also fatal in very small doses so sloppy production of these pills has killed people all over the country, Prince's death is not an isolated incident. No one went into his house and planted fatal doses of fentanyl, it didn't happen, it was a terrible accident on Prince's part.

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?



We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two.

What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take.
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[Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm...
There was legit pain meds there, so no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained and gave them to Prince with the intent to do harm.

Also happen to think that same someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back
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Reply #1323 posted 05/10/17 12:51pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm... There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince. I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back

What?

I am sure this was addressed by the doctors with P in Moline as to what happened on the plane.

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Reply #1324 posted 05/10/17 12:51pm

moonsister

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

moonsister said:



We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two.

What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take.
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[Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm...
There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince.
I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back


How do you know they were legit? Phony illegal meds look just like the legal prescription meds.
[Edited 5/10/17 13:04pm]
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Reply #1325 posted 05/10/17 1:06pm

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leec1 said:



moonsister said:


disch said:

whether or no there was a script for percocet, i don't think that's what P ODed on on the plane. It's too odd for me that he ODed on legit percocet and less than a week later ODed on an unrelated opioid. I think he dipped into his stash of counterfeit pills and took a fentanyl-laced one. The people with him may have honestly not known about his counterfeit-pill stash and may have genuinely thought he took the legit percocet.





You are right, he did not od on the fake illegal Vicodin on the 20th. He took an overdose of fentanyl. He had no idea (I think) that fentanyl was in these fake illegal Vicodins.

I think after reading the CDC article which I am listing the link below that P. took street pills which probably were laced with fentanyl. From the articles I read, my recollection is that 2 shots of Narcan had to be administered to counteract the problem. The CDC article indicates when fentanyl is taken, it may require multiple shots of Narcan to counter the effects.



https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp



But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #1326 posted 05/10/17 1:06pm

PurpleDiamonds
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moonsister said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:


Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm...
There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince.
I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back


How do you know they were legit?

Dr S wrote scrips for KJ not Prince and someone gave them to P. I don't think Prince knew what he was being given but the person who gave them to P knew
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Reply #1327 posted 05/10/17 1:07pm

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I find it strange that that we do not know who dropped P off that night. All the reports say "an aquaintance".

Aquaintance defined: a person one knows slightly but is not a close friend

Now we have all thought that that KJ dropped him off but LE used the word "aquaintance" themselves. This just puts another wrinkle in this case. Why is this person still not named??

^^^^^ this all day ^^^^^
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #1328 posted 05/10/17 1:11pm

precioux

moonsister said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm... There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince. I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back
How do you know they were legit? Phony illegal meds look just like the legal prescription meds. [Edited 5/10/17 13:04pm]

I'm sure the investigators were able to ascertain which were legit pain pills (the oxy/Percocet obtained by Kirk), and the illicit ones which contained Fentanyl and were made with a different "Watson" stamp on them to "appear" to be vicodin....obtained by...(?)

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Reply #1329 posted 05/10/17 1:14pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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oliviacamron said:

leec1 said:

I think after reading the CDC article which I am listing the link below that P. took street pills which probably were laced with fentanyl. From the articles I read, my recollection is that 2 shots of Narcan had to be administered to counteract the problem. The CDC article indicates when fentanyl is taken, it may require multiple shots of Narcan to counter the effects.

https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp

But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20

Who said?

There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.

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Reply #1330 posted 05/10/17 1:15pm

precioux

oliviacamron said:

leec1 said:

I think after reading the CDC article which I am listing the link below that P. took street pills which probably were laced with fentanyl. From the articles I read, my recollection is that 2 shots of Narcan had to be administered to counteract the problem. The CDC article indicates when fentanyl is taken, it may require multiple shots of Narcan to counter the effects.

https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp

But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20

Ever? I'm not 100% on this, but fairly certain that Fentanyl leaves the system within around 3 days/72 hours. Refresh my memory on when this test for Fentanyl was done...was it in Moline on the 14th? 6 days earlier??

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Reply #1331 posted 05/10/17 1:15pm

moonsister

oliviacamron said:

leec1 said:



moonsister said:


disch said:

whether or no there was a script for percocet, i don't think that's what P ODed on on the plane. It's too odd for me that he ODed on legit percocet and less than a week later ODed on an unrelated opioid. I think he dipped into his stash of counterfeit pills and took a fentanyl-laced one. The people with him may have honestly not known about his counterfeit-pill stash and may have genuinely thought he took the legit percocet.





You are right, he did not od on the fake illegal Vicodin on the 20th. He took an overdose of fentanyl. He had no idea (I think) that fentanyl was in these fake illegal Vicodins.

I think after reading the CDC article which I am listing the link below that P. took street pills which probably were laced with fentanyl. From the articles I read, my recollection is that 2 shots of Narcan had to be administered to counteract the problem. The CDC article indicates when fentanyl is taken, it may require multiple shots of Narcan to counter the effects.



https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp



But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20


Right, and on the plane was Kirk, who had just gotten a prescription for oxy, which is Percocet, that day (the 14th). Kirk got this prescription from Dr S, who admitted to the police that this prescription was really for Prince. It is in this warrant page 4 last paragraph
http://www.mncourts.gov/m...dex-22.pdf

And this is why I think Prince od'd on these Percocets on the 14th on the plane.
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Reply #1332 posted 05/10/17 1:17pm

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

oliviacamron said:

leec1 said: But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20

Who said?

There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.

not even a hair strand test could determine "never"

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Reply #1333 posted 05/10/17 1:18pm

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moonsister said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:


Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm...
There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince.
I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back


How do you know they were legit? Phony illegal meds look just like the legal prescription meds.
[Edited 5/10/17 13:04pm]

Moon, how do you know? Is your name really Kirk ?
[Edited 5/10/17 13:34pm]
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #1334 posted 05/10/17 1:21pm

PurpleDiamonds
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precioux said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




oliviacamron said:


leec1 said: But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20

Who said?


There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"


Yes I also remember that a hair strand test could determine that
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Reply #1335 posted 05/10/17 1:21pm

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precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Who said?

There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.

not even a hair strand test could determine "never"

Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.

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Reply #1336 posted 05/10/17 1:23pm

moonsister

precioux said:



moonsister said:


PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Or because someone wanted to do Prince harm... There was legit pain meds there no reason for P to get fake street meds. Someone else obtained a gave them to Prince. I happen to think that someone may have something to do with the plane incident and knew they were about to be caught...just before P got those test results back

How do you know they were legit? Phony illegal meds look just like the legal prescription meds. [Edited 5/10/17 13:04pm]

I'm sure the investigators were able to ascertain which were legit pain pills (the oxy/Percocet obtained by Kirk), and the illicit ones which contained Fentanyl and were made with a different "Watson" stamp on them to "appear" to be vicodin....obtained by...(?)



Yes, investigators were able to ascertain this probably. But no where have I read the Percocets found at Prince's were legal or illegal. They could have been legal, but they were NOT LEGAL for Prince to have them, he did not have a prescription for Percocets. They could have been from the scrip Kirk got on the 14th, but keep in mind the Percocets did not kill Prince. The phony Vicodin killed Prince, and we know they were phony because they were laced with fentanyl, and fentanyl is what killed Prince. Vicodin is not supposed to have fentanyl in it.
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Reply #1337 posted 05/10/17 1:24pm

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

not even a hair strand test could determine "never"

Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.

Exactly...alot more than 3 days, but not enough to rule out "never".

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Reply #1338 posted 05/10/17 1:25pm

oliviacamron

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precioux said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




oliviacamron said:


leec1 said: But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20

Who said?


There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"


I assume they did a hair strand test when they said he hadn't had it before. I'm not an expert but I think they can see what you ever had. Fentantyl is so powerful and he was petite, I don't think he could function at all if he took it regularly
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #1339 posted 05/10/17 1:27pm

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moonsister said:

oliviacamron said:


But lab test showed he had NOT had fentynal ever before 4/20


Right, and on the plane was Kirk, who had just gotten a prescription for oxy, which is Percocet, that day (the 14th). Kirk got this prescription from Dr S, who admitted to the police that this prescription was really for Prince. It is in this warrant page 4 last paragraph
http://www.mncourts.gov/m...dex-22.pdf

And this is why I think Prince od'd on these Percocets on the 14th on the plane.

Yes....and someone gave those pills to Prince, KJ told the moline drs that P ODed on Percocet.
Now if it were that simple and Prince knew this he WD not have gone to get tests done by Dr S as he would have known what he took for certain that night on the plane. All we.have is KJs word on the warrants and he has been inconsistent with what he has said
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Reply #1340 posted 05/10/17 1:27pm

precioux

moonsister said:

precioux said:

I'm sure the investigators were able to ascertain which were legit pain pills (the oxy/Percocet obtained by Kirk), and the illicit ones which contained Fentanyl and were made with a different "Watson" stamp on them to "appear" to be vicodin....obtained by...(?)

Yes, investigators were able to ascertain this probably. But no where have I read the Percocets found at Prince's were legal or illegal. They could have been legal, but they were NOT LEGAL for Prince to have them, he did not have a prescription for Percocets. They could have been from the scrip Kirk got on the 14th, but keep in mind the Percocets did not kill Prince. The phony Vicodin killed Prince, and we know they were phony because they were laced with fentanyl, and fentanyl is what killed Prince. Vicodin is not supposed to have fentanyl in it. [Edited 5/10/17 13:25pm]

That IS the only point I was trying to make...the oxy's were MANUFACTURED legally, but the Vicodins were not, and contained Fentanyl.

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Reply #1341 posted 05/10/17 1:30pm

precioux

oliviacamron said:

precioux said:

not even a hair strand test could determine "never"

I assume they did a hair strand test when they said he hadn't had it before. I'm not an expert but I think they can see what you ever had. Fentantyl is so powerful and he was petite, I don't think he could function at all if he took it regularly

I agree that Prince was petite and could have probably never functioned on Fentanyl on a regular basis, I do not agree that any type of test can determine what someone has ever taken in their entire life. I do not think that sort of test exists.

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Reply #1342 posted 05/10/17 1:33pm

moonsister

precioux said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




precioux said:



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"



Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.



Exactly...alot more than 3 days, but not enough to rule out "never".



Prince did not test positive for fentanyl on the 14th, when he overdosed on Percocet. The doctor did a blood test on him on the 14th, and found Percocet which is exactly what Kirk told them they would find, and exactly what Kirk had just gotten a prescription for.
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Reply #1343 posted 05/10/17 1:36pm

moonsister

precioux said:



moonsister said:


precioux said:


I'm sure the investigators were able to ascertain which were legit pain pills (the oxy/Percocet obtained by Kirk), and the illicit ones which contained Fentanyl and were made with a different "Watson" stamp on them to "appear" to be vicodin....obtained by...(?)



Yes, investigators were able to ascertain this probably. But no where have I read the Percocets found at Prince's were legal or illegal. They could have been legal, but they were NOT LEGAL for Prince to have them, he did not have a prescription for Percocets. They could have been from the scrip Kirk got on the 14th, but keep in mind the Percocets did not kill Prince. The phony Vicodin killed Prince, and we know they were phony because they were laced with fentanyl, and fentanyl is what killed Prince. Vicodin is not supposed to have fentanyl in it. [Edited 5/10/17 13:25pm]

That IS the only point I was trying to make...the oxy's were MANUFACTURED legally, but the Vicodins were not, and contained Fentanyl.



Percocet is oxycodone and we can't be sure the Percocets found in Prince's house were legit. They might have been.
[Edited 5/10/17 13:42pm]
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Reply #1344 posted 05/10/17 1:37pm

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now in the 'Autopsy " show from reelzchannel, they are saying he did Cocaine.





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Reply #1345 posted 05/10/17 1:39pm

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moonsister said:

precioux said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




precioux said:



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"



Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.



Exactly...alot more than 3 days, but not enough to rule out "never".



Prince did not test positive for fentanyl on the 14th, when he overdosed on Percocet. The doctor did a blood test on him on the 14th, and found Percocet which is exactly what Kirk told them they would find, and exactly what Kirk had just gotten a prescription for.

Can someone verify what moon just said? I thought it was still a mystery what exactly caused the near death plane incident.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #1346 posted 05/10/17 1:39pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



precioux said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Who said?


There is no test which would show a person NEVER had fentantyl before especially blood and urine tests.



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"



Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.


So we know he was not overdosing on Fentenyl on the plane.
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Reply #1347 posted 05/10/17 1:40pm

precioux

moonsister said:

precioux said:

That IS the only point I was trying to make...the oxy's were MANUFACTURED legally, but the Vicodins were not, and contained Fentanyl.

Vicodins ARE oxy, so I am not sure what you mean.

No, Vicodin are HYDROCODONE and acetamenophine, NOT OXYCODONE

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Reply #1348 posted 05/10/17 1:41pm

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moonsister said:

precioux said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




precioux said:



not even a hair strand test could determine "never"



Hair follicle tests can determine if the drug was used within 90 days.



Exactly...alot more than 3 days, but not enough to rule out "never".



Prince did not test positive for fentanyl on the 14th, when he overdosed on Percocet. The doctor did a blood test on him on the 14th, and found Percocet which is exactly what Kirk told them they would find, and exactly what Kirk had just gotten a prescription for.

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Do you have a link that provides this information? I'm not doubting you, it's just that I have researched this case from the beginning to present and I have not read this information.
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Reply #1349 posted 05/10/17 1:44pm

moonsister

zenarose said:

moonsister said:



Prince did not test positive for fentanyl on the 14th, when he overdosed on Percocet. The doctor did a blood test on him on the 14th, and found Percocet which is exactly what Kirk told them they would find, and exactly what Kirk had just gotten a prescription for.

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Do you have a link that provides this information? I'm not doubting you, it's just that I have researched this case from the beginning to present and I have not read this information.



This is the link I found today, but I originally found it in the Star Tribune.
http://www.vanityfair.com...dose-death
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