laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, someone dropped off the so-called gravely ill man at 8:00pm. How many gravely ill people are out and about.

And the person that called the Cali Drs knew there was going to be a gravely ill man on the 20th

Exactly, Dr K diagnoised him threw the phone(LOL)

I have some info later that i will post were someone is questioning the time Andrew's flight brought him to Minneapolis. It is interesting.

Too bad we couldn't get the PP phone logs for the 20th into the 21st.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

And the warrant states Dr S gave a Rx to Kirk on the 14th for Percocet. In the warrant, Dr S admitted this Rx was really for Prince, but put it in Kirk's name to protect Prince's privacy.

--/ No, Dr S said he wrote no pain pill Rxs for Prince the Dr sent out a press release Saying this. He only wrote pain meds for Kirk not Prince. The meds that were put in Kirk's name for Prince were not controlled substances. Also we still do not know actually what happened in Moline. We only know about Percocet because Kirk told the doctors that is what he thought Prince took. At this point I do not believe a word Kirk has said. We know he took something but due to HIPPA we will never know the details.

I just reread the 9/12 search warrant which indicates Dr. S. told the detective the prescription he wrote for Kirk that was for Prince was oxycodone.

Oxycodone is a controlled substance.

moonsister said:

kmama07 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

moonsister said:

disch said:

whether or no there was a script for percocet, i don't think that's what P ODed on on the plane. It's too odd for me that he ODed on legit percocet and less than a week later ODed on an unrelated opioid. I think he dipped into his stash of counterfeit pills and took a fentanyl-laced one. The people with him may have honestly not known about his counterfeit-pill stash and may have genuinely thought he took the legit percocet.

You are right, he did not od on the fake illegal Vicodin on the 20th. He took an overdose of fentanyl. He had no idea (I think) that fentanyl was in these fake illegal Vicodins.

I think after reading the CDC article which I am listing the link below that P. took street pills which probably were laced with fentanyl. From the articles I read, my recollection is that 2 shots of Narcan had to be administered to counteract the problem. The CDC article indicates when fentanyl is taken, it may require multiple shots of Narcan to counter the effects.

https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp

I have never thought Prince procured any drugs himself outside of a doctor's office. I believe someone else got him whatever he wanted.

1Sasha said:

moonsister said:

OXY, PERCOCET, AND VICODIN ARE ALL OPIOIDS. THERE IS AN OPIOID ADDICTION EPIDEMIC IN THIS COUNTY THAT IS KILLING PEOPLE. PRINCE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THIS EPIDEMIC AND HIS ADDICTION KILLED HIM BECAUSE HIS ADDICTION LED HIM TO TAKE FENTANYL LACED ILLEGAL OPIOID PILLS.

And you know this because you have access to the police files ?

zenarose said:

If Prince didn't need a legitimate script for pain meds then why did KJ get the oxy? I don't see P out on the street buying drugs or confiding in someone his need or want for them. I also don't see him getting drugs from online as they can always be traced back by vindictive " Billy Jack Bitches" or TMZ.....

Oh I believe that script written for Kirk was for Prince and I believe he did have a legitmate Rx sometime in the past. If he was able to have Rx's written for him under Kirk's name I am sure he used others people's names in the past and that is the reason the police could find no Rx's in his name. I am sure he has received medical treatment under an assumed name and I am sure he had a reqular doctor before Dr. S as we know he did not perform a hip procedure on himself.

I think Dr. S was trying to help him with the withdrawals but was being unethical. Addiction and pain management are not his fields and he had to have known those scripts for Kirk would be going to Prince remember Dr. S was at the last party at PP.

moonsister said:

kmama07 said:

There is potentially a reason he couldn't get his own meds as often as he needed them. Hear me out. Also, this info pertains to the state of Michigan. Could be different elsewhere. Drs will only prescribe a certain dose and amount of pills per prescription for no more than thirty days (for opioids). They will sometimes only prescribe for 10 days to two weeks at a time. However it is prescribed, in order to get refills you have to actually see the Dr. each time to refill your prescription (unless there are extenuating circumstances such as being in a hospice situation). Remember, these pills are normally prescribed to be taken every four-6 hours as needed, with no more than 6 pills a day being taken. So if someone has a prescription for a 30 day supply, takes it as prescribed at one pill every 4 hours, that is 180 pills per month IF TAKEN AS PRESCRIBED. As often happens with opioids, tolerance is built pretty quickly so what happens is when one pill normally helped for 4 hours, it now takes two. Then three, then four, etc. So it is easy for someone to have gone through their entire months prescription in as little as two weeks. Sometimes sooner than that. After months/years of using these prescriptions, it is NOT uncommon or unheard of for people to be taking 20, 40, 60 pills A DAY to help manage their pain/ keep ahead of the tolerance they have built up to the medication. This is why people seek sources other than their primary physicians : "Dr. Shopping", pills online from what may or may not be a verified pharmaceutical source, dealers (who can make up to $100 PER PILL in the area I'm from), etc. [Edited 5/10/17 9:55am] [Edited 5/10/17 9:58am]

Prince didn't need a legitimate scrip for oxy because he had an illegal source for oxy and plenty of money to buy oxy illegally. This illegal oxy probably came from China, and has killed people all over America because some of this oxy is laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is cheap and is also a powerful pain killer. But fentanyl is also fatal in very small doses so sloppy production of these pills has killed people all over the country, Prince's death is not an isolated incident. No one went into his house and planted fatal doses of fentanyl, it didn't happen, it was a terrible accident on Prince's part.

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

kmama07 said: Prince didn't need a legitimate scrip for oxy because he had an illegal source for oxy and plenty of money to buy oxy illegally. This illegal oxy probably came from China, and has killed people all over America because some of this oxy is laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is cheap and is also a powerful pain killer. But fentanyl is also fatal in very small doses so sloppy production of these pills has killed people all over the country, Prince's death is not an isolated incident. No one went into his house and planted fatal doses of fentanyl, it didn't happen, it was a terrible accident on Prince's part.

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

That's where I'm at right now. Out of all those pill bottles, he gets the Fentanyl-laced pill(s)? It doesn't make sense.

laurarichardson said:

deerpath said:

Kirk had/has nothing to gain by the death of Prince. There was no will and no transfer of wealth to Kirk. Prince had to have been in a great deal of distress for Kirk to make that crisis call to California.

No, Kirk was loyal. He is too visible, too easy to blame. Someone else (or persons) picked up those poison pills and dropped them into the containers that mixed with the prescribed opiods. Someone with access to his personal space and knew about street drugs. Why would illicit drugs be mixed with prescription--though it is possible the dealer didn't know they were "extended" with fentanyl but with all the pain killers in the house why would there be a need for more? He could have unintentionally overdosed on the prescribed drugs and died from liver and kidney failure.

Judith Hill was with him on the plane and earlier in the week. Didn't she return to California? Maybe Prince was willing to go to CA for treatment because she lived there? She had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with him gone. If only notoriety.

Poor guy. What a mess.

Did we ever learn who "dropped him off" hours before he died?

Phedra is supposed to have called Dr. K not Kirk. Phedra is the one who now claims she did not even work for Prince! People screw up and flip out for all sorts of reasons it does not always have to mean instant gratification.

I am more disturbed by the articles about the Australian tour and how Kirk appears to have been acting as a business manager. I find it odd that there is no search warrant for Kirk's home and he was allowed to go on vacation.

I find it odd that the estate did know that Prince had been paid 3 million dollars by Tidal but could only account for $750k.

I wonder were the money went from Tidal and were the revenue from his P&M tour went to?

Follow the money. Who was the jublient Judas. We already know about Pat Cousins but who else.

YES, YES, YES Laura: while the source or even the chain of transfer of the fatal pill may never be found...the money will be. IF this tragedy unfolded with malicious intent the money will lead to the motive and the motive and proximity to the person or persons responsible. Follow the money; the classic lesson of Watergate.

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

That's where I'm at right now. Out of all those pill bottles, he gets the Fentanyl-laced pill(s)? It doesn't make sense.

Take this into consideration. Prince dies from ONE Fentanyl laced pill. The authorities chemically tested only ONE pill as well(maybe 2?). Who's to say the other 96 and a couple of 1/4 pills did not contain Fentanyl as well?

But he had enough in him to kill five people, wasn't that the report/rumor? I simply cannot wrap my head around this.

now in the 'Autopsy " show from reelzchannel, they are saying he did Cocaine.

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precioux said:

1Sasha said:

That's where I'm at right now. Out of all those pill bottles, he gets the Fentanyl-laced pill(s)? It doesn't make sense.

Take this into consideration. Prince dies from ONE Fentanyl laced pill. The authorities chemically tested only ONE pill as well(maybe 2?). Who's to say the other 96 and a couple of 1/4 pills did not contain Fentanyl as well?

Did the search warrants state they only tested one pill?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

precioux said:

Take this into consideration. Prince dies from ONE Fentanyl laced pill. The authorities chemically tested only ONE pill as well(maybe 2?). Who's to say the other 96 and a couple of 1/4 pills did not contain Fentanyl as well?

Did the search warrants state they only tested one pill?

IIRC they only tested 1,maybe 2- they did not test all 98 pills

[Edited 5/10/17 12:13pm]

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said: