Yes, I agree with that. The "personal opinion" part has to do with the specific opioid, which I don't think was legit percocet.

leec1 said:

disch said:

My personal opinion: The plane was definitely an opioid OD. But I don't know if it was specifically percocet. My view is that the most likely thing is it was pills the same counterfeit opioid batch that killed him a week later. Kirk apparently said he thought percocet but he legit might not have known exactly what pills P took, or maybe they were counterfeits that did resembled percocets.

The 6/8 search warrant indicates that the doctor documented on the 4/15 emergency landing that this was an opiate overdose. Doesn't the search warrant statement verify that this is what took place so that this is more than just personal opinion?

leec1 said:

moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

It was an active homicide investigation because they were looking for the person who sold or gave these street drugs to Prince.

--That could be one reason but not the only reason.

Now Laura, you said before that the reason it was an active homicide investigation was because they were looking for the person who gave Prince these illegal pills. And no, I'm not going to go thru 1000's of posts to find what you said.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

Now Laura, you said before that the reason it was an active homicide investigation was because they were looking for the person who gave Prince these illegal pills. And no, I'm not going to go thru 1000's of posts to find what you said.

Of course they are looking for the person who gave him the poisoned pills. He wasn't shot. By the way , what do you mean by street pills?

The ones that were cut with the fentanyl.

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

disch said:

My personal opinion: The plane was definitely an opioid OD. But I don't know if it was specifically percocet. My view is that the most likely thing is it was pills the same counterfeit opioid batch that killed him a week later. Kirk apparently said he thought percocet but he legit might not have known exactly what pills P took, or maybe they were counterfeits that did resembled percocets.

IMO...The pills given on the plane were most likely given by the same person with the same intentions and they made sure the pills were fatal on the 20th.. I also doubt that Prince knew either of those times were going to kill him. He had tests done most likely to find out what went wrong on the 14th but he never saw those results.

IMO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them.

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PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

disch said: IMO...The pills given on the plane were most likely given by the same person with the same intentions and they made sure the pills were fatal on the 20th.. I also doubt that Prince knew either of those times were going to kill him. He had tests done most likely to find out what went wrong on the 14th but he never saw those results.

IMO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them.

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One thing is for sure...

WHOEVER Obtained the Laced Fentanyl will be feeling the weight of what has happened, more than anyone else...even if they are never found out..they have a LIFE sentence

If their intention was to help him...Jeepers...

I would NOT want to be them ...

can U imagine ?

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

IMO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them.

[Edited 5/9/17 19:16pm]

Hmmmm....who really knows But There was no reason P could not get a prescription for his own legit meds...the person that brought in the fakes I think new what they were doing. Prince had no idea.

He could've got the legal scripts for himself, if he would've seen a Dr. but from what has been said here on the org. he really didn't have his own dr. ?

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

IMO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them.

[Edited 5/9/17 19:16pm]

One thing is for sure...

WHOEVER Obtained the Laced Fentanyl will be feeling the weight of what has happened, more than anyone else...even if they are never found out..they have a LIFE sentence

If their intention was to help him...Jeepers...

I would NOT want to be them ...

can U imagine ?

I know.

PennyPurple said:

whether or no there was a script for percocet, i don't think that's what P ODed on on the plane. It's too odd for me that he ODed on legit percocet and less than a week later ODed on an unrelated opioid. I think he dipped into his stash of counterfeit pills and took a fentanyl-laced one. The people with him may have honestly not known about his counterfeit-pill stash and may have genuinely thought he took the legit percocet.

moonsister said:

leec1 said:

The 6/8 search warrant indicates that the doctor documented on the 4/15 emergency landing that this was an opiate overdose. Doesn't the search warrant statement verify that this is what took place so that this is more than just personal opinion?

And the warrant states Dr S gave a Rx to Kirk on the 14th for Percocet. In the warrant, Dr S admitted this Rx was really for Prince, but put it in Kirk's name to protect Prince's privacy.

disch said:

disch said:

Whoooooosh! This is all very confusing. I have completely lost the thread of what went on. Please can someone give a simple bulletted timeline of the facts (from official documents and credible named sources) without any of the hearsay and tabloid gossip? Maybe starting from just before the cancelled Atlanta shows and the first known doctors visit?

It might help those of us, like me, who are completely lost as to what is gossip, presumptions and hearsay and what is factual.

Thanks.

moonsister said:

moonsister said:

1Sasha said:

moonsister said:

You are right, he did not od on the fake illegal Vicodin on the 20th. He took an overdose of fentanyl. He had no idea (I think) that fentanyl was in these fake illegal Vicodins.

I don't think he ingested a Fentanyl-laced pill on the plane for the simple reason that it would have killed him before they landed. Yes, he was unconscious, but Narcan wouldn't have saved him. JMO based upon what I have read about Fentanyl.

I've been thinking about this, and what Purplediamonds1 posted earlier. IIRC, there were not one, but 2 Narcan shots administered in Moline (?). Someone had stated that it is uncommon for 2 shots to be administered, usually one is sufficient to reverse an opiate OD. Prince did not have a Narcan shot admintered on 4/20. Some of the fake pills were cut into 1/4's. Did Prince know the pills contained Fentanyl and was deliberately taking smaller amounts?? Just thinking out loud.

Kirk had/has nothing to gain by the death of Prince. There was no will and no transfer of wealth to Kirk. Prince had to have been in a great deal of distress for Kirk to make that crisis call to California.

No, Kirk was loyal. He is too visible, too easy to blame. Someone else (or persons) picked up those poison pills and dropped them into the containers that mixed with the prescribed opiods. Someone with access to his personal space and knew about street drugs. Why would illicit drugs be mixed with prescription--though it is possible the dealer didn't know they were "extended" with fentanyl but with all the pain killers in the house why would there be a need for more? He could have unintentionally overdosed on the prescribed drugs and died from liver and kidney failure.

Judith Hill was with him on the plane and earlier in the week. Didn't she return to California? Maybe Prince was willing to go to CA for treatment because she lived there? She had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with him gone. If only notoriety.

Poor guy. What a mess.

Did we ever learn who "dropped him off" hours before he died?

deerpath said:

Kirk had/has nothing to gain by the death of Prince. There was no will and no transfer of wealth to Kirk. Prince had to have been in a great deal of distress for Kirk to make that crisis call to California.

No, Kirk was loyal. He is too visible, too easy to blame. Someone else (or persons) picked up those poison pills and dropped them into the containers that mixed with the prescribed opiods. Someone with access to his personal space and knew about street drugs. Why would illicit drugs be mixed with prescription--though it is possible the dealer didn't know they were "extended" with fentanyl but with all the pain killers in the house why would there be a need for more? He could have unintentionally overdosed on the prescribed drugs and died from liver and kidney failure.

Judith Hill was with him on the plane and earlier in the week. Didn't she return to California? Maybe Prince was willing to go to CA for treatment because she lived there? She had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with him gone. If only notoriety.

Poor guy. What a mess.

Did we ever learn who "dropped him off" hours before he died?

No, but the "asumption" is KIRK

deerpath said:

Kirk had/has nothing to gain by the death of Prince. There was no will and no transfer of wealth to Kirk. Prince had to have been in a great deal of distress for Kirk to make that crisis call to California.

No, Kirk was loyal. He is too visible, too easy to blame. Someone else (or persons) picked up those poison pills and dropped them into the containers that mixed with the prescribed opiods. Someone with access to his personal space and knew about street drugs. Why would illicit drugs be mixed with prescription--though it is possible the dealer didn't know they were "extended" with fentanyl but with all the pain killers in the house why would there be a need for more? He could have unintentionally overdosed on the prescribed drugs and died from liver and kidney failure.

Judith Hill was with him on the plane and earlier in the week. Didn't she return to California? Maybe Prince was willing to go to CA for treatment because she lived there? She had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with him gone. If only notoriety.

Poor guy. What a mess.

Did we ever learn who "dropped him off" hours before he died?

Phedra is supposed to have called Dr. K not Kirk. Phedra is the one who now claims she did not even work for Prince! People screw up and flip out for all sorts of reasons it does not always have to mean instant gratification.

I am more disturbed by the articles about the Australian tour and how Kirk appears to have been acting as a business manager. I find it odd that there is no search warrant for Kirk's home and he was allowed to go on vacation.

I find it odd that the estate did know that Prince had been paid 3 million dollars by Tidal but could only account for $750k.

I wonder were the money went from Tidal and were the revenue from his P&M tour went to?

Follow the money. Who was the jublient Judas. We already know about Pat Cousins but who else.

precioux said:

deerpath said:

Kirk had/has nothing to gain by the death of Prince. There was no will and no transfer of wealth to Kirk. Prince had to have been in a great deal of distress for Kirk to make that crisis call to California.

No, Kirk was loyal. He is too visible, too easy to blame. Someone else (or persons) picked up those poison pills and dropped them into the containers that mixed with the prescribed opiods. Someone with access to his personal space and knew about street drugs. Why would illicit drugs be mixed with prescription--though it is possible the dealer didn't know they were "extended" with fentanyl but with all the pain killers in the house why would there be a need for more? He could have unintentionally overdosed on the prescribed drugs and died from liver and kidney failure.

Judith Hill was with him on the plane and earlier in the week. Didn't she return to California? Maybe Prince was willing to go to CA for treatment because she lived there? She had nothing to gain and a lot to lose with him gone. If only notoriety.

Poor guy. What a mess.

Did we ever learn who "dropped him off" hours before he died?

No, but the "asumption" is KIRK

Yes, someone dropped off the so-called gravely ill man at 8:00pm. How many gravely ill people are out and about.