ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

We will be having a book club therad on The Rise of Prince by Alex Hahn and Laura Tiebert in a few days.

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As I am currently reading the book, the book states that it was Phaedra who reached out to Dr. K.

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After Prince left Walgreens he went back to PP and the chef was there because he prepared Prince's meal, the Chef was sent home.

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Only one person had a key to PP and that was Prince. The only time that someone else held a key to PP was when Prince was out of town.

[/quot Prince was not opening the door on the April 21st and in the Carver County Sheriff logs going back a few years Kirk was the second key holder. [Edited 4/24/17 16:56pm]

Why are the quotes all messed up? I don't seem to have any problems replying to others posts using their quotes.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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My thoughts exactly!

All the above is true but Prince would still be here even if those doctors never showed up. Prince is dead because he was poisoned. Actually, he may have been killed no matter what. What I'm trying to say is , their first attempt to take him out was on the plane. If they would not have succeeded on the 21st,they would have got to him eventually. I think it's kind of strange time Warner just changed their name. I think it's strange the new release date of Purple Rain 6/16, is the same date Prince was supposed to speak politically at Luzniki stadium in Russia. It's also a shame that a Russian owns wb music. He probably didn't grow up listening to Prince at all. God please protect me

Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs.

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Unfortunately, Prince had too many enablers in his circle. All he needed was one true friend to step up to the plate. Prince had too many users and abusers (hence, the song he sang about KJ using him up). Prince felt hurt and betrayed and maybe he was trying to tell us something in that song?

I think we have to remember he did go to Dr.S and get meds to help with his withdrawals so he was trying. I kind of think that it is getting lost. No one could have forced him to go to Dr.S. I believe he was trying we have no way of knowing why he took the laced Watson instead of the pain pills Dr. S ptescribed to Kirk [Edited 4/24/17 16:48pm]

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Very true. Sad, I know.

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

And how does Alex know this???

Don't know, but we can find out when the book club starts, He and Laura might participate and maybe we can ask questions.

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I appreciate the info, but see, this is one of the problems with all these people coming out and speaking to the media and writing books. No one knows what to believe anymore. Everyone has their own version of the story. Too many conflicting stories, imo.

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Too many cooks spoil the broth, as they say.

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He said, she said.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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My thoughts exactly!

All the above is true but Prince would still be here even if those doctors never showed up. Prince is dead because he was poisoned. Actually, he may have been killed no matter what. What I'm trying to say is , their first attempt to take him out was on the plane. If they would not have succeeded on the 21st,they would have got to him eventually. I think it's kind of strange time Warner just changed their name. I think it's strange the new release date of Purple Rain 6/16, is the same date Prince was supposed to speak politically at Luzniki stadium in Russia. It's also a shame that a Russian owns wb music. He probably didn't grow up listening to Prince at all. God please protect me

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I suspect he was being poisoned, which explains why he seemed agitated and upset the day before (when he was seen at Walgreen's).

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I don't deny that he was in pain and had a dependency on pain pills, but I don't believe he took those pills "knowing" they were laced with Fentanyl. I also don't believe Prince would buy street drugs, especially we he already had a Rx from Dr. S. (that KJ supposedly picked up) the day before.

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That is strange about that Russian guy though. Pretty creepy. Too many things don't seem right.

mnfriend said:

cloveringold85 said:

Not sure if any of you saw this on YT, but a lot of stuff is being said about KJ.

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https://www.youtube.com/w...WapRYu8Ct8

This is just my opinion after viewing this for the first time, and I love Prince, FYI. Okay, CBS is at PP to promote PP- Kirk didn't fly out to NY to do a talk show. He is protecting Prince's medical privacy, how Prince would want and expect him to- I do not see in his eyes, or feel any evil energy that he would ever want to intentionally or unintentionally hurt Prince. 30 years he's been at PP, he said. He said first and foremost Prince was an entertainer, that's what he did, he kept going and going all the way until the end. I do not 'sense' nor does it make 'sense' to think this man, the really only 1 man who P trusted for 30 YEARS is suddenly gonna go psycho evil. No. Like someone said on this thread earlier- good luck trying to find a jury in MN who would condemn anyone who from their heart, was trying to help P the best they could- he was loved. My take on viewing this interview and following this case all year.

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I respect your opinion, but too many things just don't add up about the days leading up to Prince's untimely death. Kirk has gave too many conflicting stories. In the beginning, he stated that he never saw Prince had a problem with pain meds, but then we find out that he was the one picking up Rx's for Prince and he claims he only did it once? ONE time? Should we really believe that??

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You would be surprised at what a person will do for the sake of money. Look at what happened to Selena (the mexican singer). Her closest confidant betrayed her and, umm (murdered) her. I don't like saying that.

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PennyPurple said:

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said: All the above is true but Prince would still be here even if those doctors never showed up. Prince is dead because he was poisoned. Actually, he may have been killed no matter what. What I'm trying to say is , their first attempt to take him out was on the plane. If they would not have succeeded on the 21st,they would have got to him eventually. I think it's kind of strange time Warner just changed their name. I think it's strange the new release date of Purple Rain 6/16, is the same date Prince was supposed to speak politically at Luzniki stadium in Russia. It's also a shame that a Russian owns wb music. He probably didn't grow up listening to Prince at all. God please protect me

Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs.

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I don't believe Prince was buying street drugs. I think someone was replacing his pills with bad one's. When I read about all the pills they found at PP, I was like, this is just beyond crazy! Why would a man who only weighed 112 LBS at his time of death have enough pills that could wipe out an army of men! Just does not jive well with me. It all seemed staged, imo.

mnfriend said:

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs.

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I don't believe Prince was buying street drugs. I think someone was replacing his pills with bad one's. When I read about all the pills they found at PP, I was like, this is just beyond crazy! Why would a man who only weighed 112 LBS at his time of death have enough pills that could wipe out an army of men! Just does not jive well with me. It all seemed staged, imo.

I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

laurarichardson said:

oh Laura, come on. This has been discussed so. many. times over the past year i KNOW you know better.

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But just to repeat: People don't literally go "out on the corner" to buy illegal drugs. They have a regular dealer/supplier who gets them what they need, and/or they order them online.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs.

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Because Prince was out on the corner buying drugs

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

This is just my opinion after viewing this for the first time, and I love Prince, FYI. Okay, CBS is at PP to promote PP- Kirk didn't fly out to NY to do a talk show. He is protecting Prince's medical privacy, how Prince would want and expect him to- I do not see in his eyes, or feel any evil energy that he would ever want to intentionally or unintentionally hurt Prince. 30 years he's been at PP, he said. He said first and foremost Prince was an entertainer, that's what he did, he kept going and going all the way until the end. I do not 'sense' nor does it make 'sense' to think this man, the really only 1 man who P trusted for 30 YEARS is suddenly gonna go psycho evil. No. Like someone said on this thread earlier- good luck trying to find a jury in MN who would condemn anyone who from their heart, was trying to help P the best they could- he was loved. My take on viewing this interview and following this case all year.

____ I guess the laughing and smugness does not bother you. The non- cooperation with cops and lies. nterview was nd smugness was okay withyou. he fact that he lied to the cops is not a problem for you. [Edited 4/24/17 17:47pm]

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Laura: I agree. He comes across as cold-hearted. The part that got me upset is when the interviewer said that people want someone to be prosecuted for Prince's death and KJ's response was: "That is their problem".

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What a thing to say to all his grieving fans and loved ones. After he said that, I changed my opinion of him.

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I don't know if that inteview was heavily-edited or what, but he did not come across as showing any compassion. All he wanted to do was talk about the Anniversary Tribute at PP. I'm sure his attorney is telling him to keep a tight lip too! No doubt.

PeteSilas said:

i really hope they charge everyone they can, them fuckers will sing like pavoratti once jail time is over their heads and all the beans will get spilled.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I don't believe Prince was buying street drugs. I think someone was replacing his pills with bad one's. When I read about all the pills they found at PP, I was like, this is just beyond crazy! Why would a man who only weighed 112 LBS at his time of death have enough pills that could wipe out an army of men! Just does not jive well with me. It all seemed staged, imo.

I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

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Possibly. Whomever got them might have thought they were legit. Prince was a smart guy and I just do not picture him going online and ordering counterfeit pills or going on the street to buy drugs -- or having someone do that for him.

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I mean, if he was in that bad a shape, he should have taken some time off and went into rehab/therapy. All of his fans would have been proud of him for doing so. I'm pretty sure, anyhow -- I know I would be. There should be no shame in dependency/addiction. There is help.

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Sorry, I'm just rambling on here.......

oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

Or Russian assassination pills . How many entertainers have died of so called overdoses ?

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We keep seeing this much too often, sadly.

Good grief. How did we end up back in crazy town again? And how many more times are we going to go around and around in circles? Next thing we know, Abigail Noel herself will be here fitting right in

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Prince was not poisoned.

Prince was not murdered.

Prince was not an addict.

It wasnt Warner Bros.

It wasnt the chefs.

It wasnt the Russians.

It wasnt Kirk.

P was in a tremendous amount of pain.

The script the doctor gave him was not going to

last him long because just one pill 1-2x per day was not going to alleviate his pain.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Prince was not poisoned.

Prince was not murdered.

Prince was not an addict.

It wasnt Warner Bros.

It wasnt the chefs.

It wasnt the Russians.

It wasnt Kirk.

P was in a tremendous amount of pain.

The script the doctor gave him was not going to

last him long because just one pill 1-2x per day was not going to alleviate his pain.

Bravo!!!! It wasn't Tyka either

TopazGirl said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Prince was not poisoned.

Prince was not murdered.

Prince was not an addict.

It wasnt Warner Bros.

It wasnt the chefs.

It wasnt the Russians.

It wasnt Kirk.

P was in a tremendous amount of pain.

The script the doctor gave him was not going to

last him long because just one pill 1-2x per day was not going to alleviate his pain.

Exactly.