A recording time line of inclusion and notable un-inclusions.

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bluegangsta said:

A recording time line of inclusion and notable un-inclusions.

1983 XXX XX: 17 Days

- Unreleased extended version known to exist.

1983 May 24: Possessed

- Re-recorded into the leaked version on 17 March 1984

1983 Apr 19: Velvet Kitty Cat

- Intended for The Time’s Ice Cream Castles

1983 Early XX: Wonderful Ass

- Snippet of this version has leaked.

- Updated by Wendy & Lisa in 1986

1983 Aug XX: Darling Nikki

- Longer version leaked

1983 Aug 03: I Would Die 4 U

- Longer version leaked.

1983 Aug 03: Baby I’m A Star

- Longer version leaked.

- Demo recorded in 81/ 82 leaked

1983 Aug 15: Computer Blue

- Recorded live 3 August 1983

- Recorded at St Louis Park August 1983 has leaked

1983 Sep 15: Irresistible Bitch (NOT INCLUDED)

- B-Side to Let’s Pretend We’re Married

- Longer version known to exist

1983 Sep XX: The Beautiful Ones

- Longer version leaked.

1983 Sep XX: Purple Rain

- Recorded Live on 3 Aug 1983

- Longer version leaked.

1983 Sep XX: Electric Intercourse

- Recorded live in Aug

1983 Oct XX: Let’s Go Crazy

- Recorded live 3 August 1983

1983 Oct 24: Wednesday (NOT INCLUDED)

- Version recorded with Jill Jones later.

- Placed on early configuration of Purple Rain

1983 Oct 29: Father’s Song

- Described as having very heavy synths.

1983 Nov XX: Katrina’s Paper Dolls (worked on as early as October)

- 4 Version of this song are known to exist.

1983 Dec 31: We Can Fuck

- Later rerecorded into We Can Funk on Graffiti Bridge.

- Snippet of this version has leaked.

1984 Jan 27: Take Me With U

- Longer version has leaked.

1984 Feb 7: God (Love Theme From Purple Rain)

1984 Feb 18: Another Lonely Christmas

1984 Feb 27: Love & Sex

- Snippet leaked.

1984 Feb 27: Traffic Jam (NOT INCLUDED)

- 2 versions leaked, one incomplete.

1984 Mar 01: When Doves Cry

- Version with bassline known to exist.

1984 Apr XX: Erotic City

- Originally recorded on 20 Dec 1983.

- Several alternate mixes are know to exist and have leaked.

1984 Jun 25: Purple Rain album is released.

1984 Aug 17 : The Dance Electric

- Rerecorded and released by Andre Cymone in 1985

1984 Aug 24 : God

1984 Sep 29: Our Destiny/ Roadhouse Garden

- Recorded live on 7 June 1984

1986 Jul XX: All Day All Night (NOT INCLUDED)

- Recorded live on 7 June 1984

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Thanks for this, but don't forget these are only the songs we know of. There must be a lot more from the same period and as others have already pointed out, Warners surely doesn't want to put everything out right now. They know there's enough material in there to be exploited for decades – and at this stage there could be technical issues with some of the stuff too.
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Paisley's vault is not even catalogued yet, let alone starting the monumental task of digitising all the tapes and making decisions whether an already existing mix is good enough (either technically or artistically) for release or they'll have to go back to the multitracks and mix it again. They might want to do that with 'Wednesday', for example. They might simply hold it back for a later, far more comprehensive set. We don't know why they left it off the deluxe reissue.

Sifi said:

Dandroppedadime said:

I'm actually happy the full length original versions of the purple rain album are NOT included, as it allows for a future release where we can appreciate and digest the material while not taking away from the original 'edits' album (rightly released first). Also the bonus disk can feature the associates material including Wednesday, modernaire, plus the time and A6 material.

U actually believe that this makes reasonable sense?

databank said:

The bad

- Why announce 2 CD's then give only one? This is WB doing exactly what fans blamed Prince for doing all these years: misleading info and promises that lead nowhere... Bad business!

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So far this still is not official. Also, if the second concert movie is the August 1983 show, then that would be the second disc of unreleased music.

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- Technically, the original version of 4 The Time In Your Eyes was released before ATWIAD, therefore during the PR era, so it should have been included here. My guess is WB felt it belongs more on a potential ATWIAD remaster, though.

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Pointless speculation. Also: the studio version might not be "licensable", because it might belong to USA 4 Africa (or whatever the org is called).

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- Audio versions of the 4 live music videos (Baby, TMWU + 2 edits of IWD4U), as well as the AMA PR and the Grammy Baby I'm A Star TV performances should have been included. Hopefully WB will have the sense to include all of those in video format on one of the 2 DVD's alongside the other PR promo videos.

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Don't get your hopes up. Also: obtaining the rights to these performances might be hard/costly. This is Warners' first trip to Prince re-issue land and considering the insecurity surrounding the music rights of the catalog they likely have looked for something that could have a positive ROI.

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Let's not forget: Prince never even bothered with this, even when it was part of a deal he closed with Warners.

jaypotton said:

Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

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Oh look, projection.

embmmusic said:

tmcjb said:

This begs the question, will there be a vinyl release of the unreleased tracks? Normally for these deluxe two-or-more disc deals they only release the first disc. I'd be surprised if they release more than just Purple Rain remastered on vinyl...I'll probably end up buying both the boxset and the vinyl.

A recent example of this is the remastered version of Boys For Pele by Tori Amos. The CD contained a whole bunch of additional tracks that the vinyl didn't have. The download card that came with the vinyl also only included the album tracks.

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The 20th anniversary of Garbage's debut was a mere 2CDs, but the download was much larger: http://www.superdeluxeedi...y-reissue/ . And Macca's Flowers In The Dirt deluxe is an insult to his fans.

jaypotton said:

christobole said:

Bart is right, I actually look forward to his well-reasoned and educated posts, while I skip many other posters' uninformed and naive rubbish.

Actually generally I like reading Bart's posts and have done for nearly 20 years! A lot of people challenge the style of his posts because they often come across as aggressive and pompous. Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

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What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%.

FunkOnTheOne said:

Also, is the original Purple Rain really that bad sounding?

On CD? Big, big time.
I just hope they didn't turn the compressor up to 11.

So still no preorder, no offficial tracklist...what a joke, clearly Warner Bros. don't want to sell this thing.

bonatoc said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

Also, is the original Purple Rain really that bad sounding?

On CD? Big, big time.
I just hope they didn't turn the compressor up to 11.

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Nah, they'll just brickwall it.

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has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

jjam said:

Well the audio for the package has been remastered by Bernie Grundman from the masters, who did the original release - which bodes well...

http://blog.thecurrent.or...ecordings/

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That sold it to me on the spot.
Finally, Bernie tweaking the knobs again! I coud be wrong, but I don't think he's the type to sell his ass to the Loudness Wars. But WB executive have their words, so who knows. I hope everyone in the building has come to the conclusion that radio doesn't exist anymore. Or at least that this is not millenials radio material.

Susan Rogers liking it is also good news.

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

The The Current blog states that all audio has been mastered/remastered.

BartVanHemelen said:

jjam said:

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

The The Current blog states that all audio has been mastered/remastered.

ok thanks jjam....phew

MiceElfAgin said:

MiceElfAgin said:

jaypotton said:

Actually generally I like reading Bart's posts and have done for nearly 20 years! A lot of people challenge the style of his posts because they often come across as aggressive and pompous. Bart almost always comes at the Org from a position of self believed superiority and an assumption that 99% of people here are purple koolade drinking wackos with no basic understanding of business or common sense!

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What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%.

In fact, I don't quite understand why Bart bothers to visit this forum at all, often correcting all the mis-information on here and enduring insults. Of course, I'm glad he still does.

christobole said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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What an outrageous assumption! In reality, it's only 95%.

In fact, I don't quite understand why Bart bothers to visit this forum at all, often correcting all the mis-information on here and enduring insults. Of course, I'm glad he still does.

me too....sometimes I just wish the org had a "like" button...if only for bart's comments....however I do try not to interact, reply to his comments, i.e directly speak to him ....as I do not want a ...he can be rather scary....

mrmaxwell said:

bluegangsta said:

The Capitol show definitly was -see the video for IWD4U/ BIAS.

Do you mean shot on film or pro shot? Do we know the entire show was filmed?

Also, isn't there a pro shot video of "Take Me With U" that is not from Syracuse?

It's a live video but not from Syracuse as you say, as I seem to recall.

dadeepop said:

TheEnglishGent said:

When you make a post, there's a little icon that looks like a tree. Click on that and you get a pop up into which you can paste your image link. Paste in the image link then click insert and you're done.

It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about?

This :



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.

bonatoc said:

mrmaxwell said:

Do you mean shot on film or pro shot? Do we know the entire show was filmed?

Also, isn't there a pro shot video of "Take Me With U" that is not from Syracuse?

no it was filmed at one of the Houston shows...

It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about?

This :



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.

dadeepop said:

It's a purple miracle! I thought I had tried that. Thanks! Now, what were we all talking about?

This :



...but as always with these kind of boxes, there's a good half that you won't eat
because they're not of your taste.

Haha well played!

i always start out like 'urgh, those are horrible, why are those even in here? who eats those?'

and two days later, when the good ones are gone and there's no other chocolate in the house
i'm like 'meh, these are not so bad, i'll have some of these'

third day, there's only wrappers left in the box

love2thenines2003 said:

Sifi said:

love2thenines2003 said:

@SIFI Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance

VERY soon, maybe today! But that's not a 100% guarantee, that's why I am hesitant to post this.

Translation, you have no idea, just like the rest of us.

Sifi said:

love2thenines2003 said:

@SIFI Do u know when the Press release from WB with all the details is coming out? Thanks in advance

VERY soon, maybe today! But that's not a 100% guarantee, that's why I am hesitant to post this.

I'll take it.

If it turns out not to be the case so be it.

purpleprime said:

has anyone else noticed that it say's "Disc 1:Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)".......but it say's nothing about the other 2 discs being remastered.....I bet ya there just mastered and louder just like "Ultimate Prince" .....

You can't remaster tracks that haven't been mastered a first time!!!

Cutting WB some slack (shock!) we have no idea what quality or state the vault tracks are in. With time against them who knows what tracks were in good enough condition to master and get to release status...perhaps they wanted other tracks but needed more time to restore.