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They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible. . Utter BS. The simple fact that this package will include two concert movies shows they're investing. Digitizing video and cleaning it up etc. takes a fuckload of money and is rarely worth the investments. . Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all. . Which part of THE ESTATE IS NOT SETTLED do you lot find so fucking hard to comprehend? I take it all back they are truly spoiling us.I will sit through the full syracuse baby I'm a star jam as punishment. It better be full HD 4D hologram version | |
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BartVanHemelen, what is your problem? Every post I've ever seen by you in this and every thread is an attack on someone else with some smug superior attitude. It would be one thing if you made other positive contributions to this board, but all you ever do is post to pounce others. Every-single-time. You're fucked up man. | |
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Yeah, his nice/rude post ratio is a little one sided... but he is old, he's been around longer than me! LOL he was doing this back in the mid 90's... "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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I know I'm ancient. I've been here when the regular posters were Aaron, Superman, Ben,.....I forget the rest. Back then I was known as Loakum An Smokum. lol, memories... | |
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I'm excited. Looks nice. Hopefully they gave a lot of thought about the packaging as well. Not unimportant. With the release of 4Ever they talked about 'never before seen photos of Prince which was a joke of course. [Edited 4/23/17 0:39am] 'Liberate My Mind' | |
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RIP | |
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. Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that. © Bart Van Hemelen
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You assume I consider further release of Purple Rain a slight. I don't! It is just going to be an inevitable fact based on commerce and the desire by both the estate and Warners to exploit their assets. . Newsflash: if this deluxe set doesn't do good business, none of that is likely to happen. Again: you're complaining about something that might not happen at all. . Ever since reissues/remasters/deluxe editions etc started happening many artists and record companies have done this. Why won't it happen with Prince's material? The context for me making that comment of future releases was based on other people complaining that song X is not on this release. I was simply pointing out (based on established business practice) that they could well surface on future versions of Purple Rain. So what exactly is your beef? . You're pretending this is some plan of them. It isn't. At this point Warners are trying to guess what balance to strike between investments and possible sales results. This is aggrevated by the fact Prince's estate is a mess and a bunch of chancers have already sold the rights to works they feel belong to them to another company in a suspect deal. . And even on a practical level: Prince's vault seems to have been in a completely unorganised state. So sourcing track X and then applying all required work to get it release-ready is not some cheap operation. . Bitching about this release because you imagine Warners is already busy planning some future release and are using this as a quick cash grab is absurd. And once again you try and put words in my mouth or tell me what I am thinking! Read my posts Bart. I am not bitching about anything (apart from a misleading press release from Warners some months back). At no point did I say whether it was wrong or right that in future there will likely be a super dooper deluxe etc release. I was saying that (clearly if deemed commercially viable) we can expect this to not be the last time Purple Rain gets a release. Again you ignore the context of why I was saying it...because people were moaning track X or Y were not on this release. Newflash back at you: at some point if the profit to be made justifies the investment then Warners/the estate will want to sweat their assets! Newsflash 2: me stating that realistic scenario is NOT the same as me bitching about it. You know full well how commerce works so stop trying to position what I have said as anything other then pointing out a potential realistic scenario for the future. Come on Bart you are better than that. While you like to dish out shit and paint 99% of Prince fans as purple koolade drinking nutcases with no basic grasp of business, law or common sense, you need to get better at making the distinction between "bitching" and discussing realistic scenarios (and keep in mind the context in which a point was raised). 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. | |
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BartVanHemelen said:
. Or you could read what I wrote and notice how I attack bad opinions which are often based on ill-informed ideas about how things work. It's you who posted a personal attack, not me. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, simple as that. There is not such a thing as 'bad opinions'. There's factually wrong information and uninformed speculation. And nobody objects to you correcting or challenging those. It's the way that you do it that people have a problem with. Every time you start a post with oh 'please', or 'for crying out loud' or 'newsflash' you come across as a smug, intolerant and very miserable individual. | |
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. What P did was his fault. After his death, why didn't WB release the PR remaster within a month of his cremation? Because the estate was not up and running? Because they needed goodies from the vault? Because they do not need any monies extracted from them fans? Because the heirs do not want the cash? . I did know the tracklisat of disc one as of the first days of rumors about this release. As shown there were plenty ideas of making this a 5-disc set and we would still be missing gems. I do understand that these tracks are simply gathered from some database (with isrc things) and do not necessarily describe the whole release but might still do that perfectly. . I am not whining nor bitching when I state the obvious fact that WB cannot even get close to find the actual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash. Where and when ever did they experiment, in the past two decades, with multiple Prince releases per year? Different products based on one release? (3-disc PR for Joe Blow, 5-disc for the fans...) Where and when will they experiment to find out the ctual optimum release frequency which brings them the most cash?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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. Dude, I did check the princevault site. Not all songs are there. No all details, infos, stories are there. If asking for such infos is already too much and princevault is supposed to be the one and only truth why don't we have edit access there?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like
love & sex we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?) dance electric (its lenght!) k paper dolls
etc
thanx | |
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alb69 said: Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like
love & sex we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?) dance electric (its lenght!) k paper dolls
etc
thanx U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set. Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety Bitch this ain't the movies | |
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Revolution81 said: alb69 said: Is there anybody out there who could share some more info , besides the info on princevault, on sound, tempo etc of songs like
love & sex we can fuck (will the sound be more purplerainish than the graff bridge version for instance?) dance electric (its lenght!) k paper dolls
etc
thanx U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set. Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety They might have used the questlove phone leak on this release. | |
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Romeoblu said: Revolution81 said: U can hear most of "love and sex" as a phone recording from some questlove dj set. Unique vocal delivery, great lyrics and awesome purple rain era sound with some backwards electric guitar. It's gonna be great to hear this one in its pristine remastered entirety They might have used the questlove phone leak on this release. RIP | |
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Well at least it will have been remastered Bitch this ain't the movies | |
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"The password is what." | |
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I don't tend to post much anymore on this board (I used to go by a different user name in the 2000s) but so much of this whole thread is utter bollocks spouted by trolls who feel entitled.
I am a massive Prince fan, and have been eagerly awaiting this release for years as have many of you, but I am disgusted by some of the behaviour of people on this thread.
Thanks Militant for sharing the leaked info
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. Lol. This Jon Snow has the other meaning of "fine" hair. . (of a thread, filament, or person's hair) thin. | |
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You forgot rude and arrogant too. | |
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I will buy it for Disc 1 and 3 | |
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Be civilized
This rule is broken time and time again . Always the same peeps too. | |
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I was looking forward to this release accept the The remaster and 12 inch b sides part that I don't need. People need to except it for what it is and lower you're expectations.
Their are plenty of people who enjoy this release and a handful who will be dissappointed, especially as the release won't be made in June to further fuel the fire. [Edited 4/23/17 9:54am] | |
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Kinda feelin' like tomorrow's likely for a formal announcement on this. The anniversary has past, and it's a Monday, which gives them a whole week's worth of watercooler discussion and word of mouth... | |
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Didn't the press release say 'two discs of unreleased music'? I can only see one. Disc 3 looks great but who on earth wants edits? Although they will probably save stuff for future editions like they did with Fleetwood Mac's Rumours et al. | |
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[Edited 4/23/17 12:13pm] | |
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And also, nothing is officially announced yet, so things may or may not change from the info we have. RIP | |
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Bingo.
Exactly.
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eyewishuheaven said:
[Edited 4/23/17 12:13pm] To be honest, upon reflection it's not as bad as it looks (disc 2). It had to be there really and not everyone buying it will experts or die hards. To have them in remastered form would be nice anyway I suppose. Disc 3 looks great though although if I had to add one track it would be the extended Beautiful Ones. I think there will be future editions anyway, 40th anniversary etc. | |
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http://www.startribune.com/from-reissues-to-reunions-what-prince-fans-can-look-forward-to-this-year/420184433/
The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the "Purple Rain" reissue as well as other upcoming events. | |
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