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Reply #480 posted 04/22/17 1:07am

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I want that California show.. I think was in feb of 85.. Prince did "4 the tears in your eyes" Madonna & Springsteen came onto the stage. They were all huge stars at the same time:)

That was indeed a great show !

23 February 1985 in THE FORUM, Inglewood California.



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Reply #481 posted 04/22/17 1:38am

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TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:



Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

It's also entirely possible that the information we have is what will be released. But at the moment, nothing is 100% certain, so people should just wait and see before getting their knickers in a twist.

If that is the case, it's the best time to voice our opinion on if this was the case.

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Reply #482 posted 04/22/17 3:22am

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jaypotton said:



Although to be fair what MOST people are pissed about is Warners issuing a misleading press release stating "two albums of unreleased material".




Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

It's also entirely possible that the information we have is what will be released. But at the moment, nothing is 100% certain, so people should just wait and see before getting their knickers in a twist.



True very true. The fans have made an assumption there would be an official announcement on 21 April but nobody (including Warners) ever said when they would be making an official announcement. It will come when they planned for it to come because I guarantee it is all planned into the schedule amongst all the other artists Warners are involved with.
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Reply #483 posted 04/22/17 5:30am

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Just thought of something..... people keep referring to the unreleased full length versions of the PR songs not being included in the set, but wouldn't it be cool if they were plannning to release a version of the album with all the full length songs intact, that would be the best way to release those songs rather than on a bonus disk?
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Reply #484 posted 04/22/17 5:42am

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Just my guess.....not sure that PR Deluxe will be released somewhere in June. ..not even sure or so that the exclusive Trax list shared by Militant is the good one...so ?
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Reply #485 posted 04/22/17 6:33am

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So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

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Reply #486 posted 04/22/17 6:49am

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udo said:

So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

I have known about them or at leats some version of all of them. And have heard most of (a version) of most of them.

One issue I see is some people who have most of these and if one of the shows is a re-release of Syracuse... then some will not be willing to spend as much $ on the set and the average fan may not be willing to pay more that $40... if all they want is Purple Rain then the full set may not be worth it for the "remaster."

Which is why I said I thought there would be a stand alone CD (maybe a 2 CD set with 1 and 2) and one with the 3 cds and one with all 5. (maybe a even more limited special set).

I think it is so cool that Militant got this info first! Literally, a worldwide scoop that is being picked up all over the place! But to be honest, I rather have no edits and more alt versions. (Like one cd of official and unofficial alt version) and one of the unreleased songs... but guess what? I am pretty sure to get 2 of these anyway!

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Reply #487 posted 04/22/17 6:50am

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So WB make us wait for a year for 1 disc of 'new' (old) material.

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It appears they are still stuck in their `1 release per year mantra` that they did when LPs and CDs were relevant.

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This means that, as I wrote before, you will never hear all -or at least a significant portion- of the unreleased music in the Vault or other P-related archives from an official release.

At this pace you need multiple lifetimes to even get close to such a goal.

The record company (or whatever WB does these days w.r.t. music) needs to understand that alternate structures exist to earn money from people with higher frequency releases.

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Reply #488 posted 04/22/17 6:52am

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What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

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Reply #489 posted 04/22/17 6:56am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

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Reply #490 posted 04/22/17 7:04am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

What we do know, it was officially announced to having an June 9th release date. Here we are a little over an month from their stated release date, and we still don't have an official tracklist, price, packaging, or ever availability for pre order. Needless to say, fans has cause for concern how WB is rolling this out.

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

That's all we're left with is guesses due to WB lack of info on this project. The longer they hold off on releasing details, the greater the chances for even more leaks.

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Reply #491 posted 04/22/17 7:06am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am still thinking that the full reveal will be tomorrow (April 23) at the end of the Celebration. I suspect this was done at the request if the estate.

If not then sometime SOON! They are aware of the "leak" and their non-response is just that...

That's all we're left with is guesses due to WB lack of info on this project. The longer they hold off on releasing details, the greater the chances for even more leaks.

I am not sure what makes or would make me more anxious. not knowing for sure or if I did know for sure!

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Reply #492 posted 04/22/17 7:06am

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TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:



Something else to consider is that people are also being pissed based on unofficial leaked information. There's still been no official announcement. It's entirely possible that the tracks Militant listed have been put in the data base because they are set in stone, yet a second unreleased disc is still being compiled and not yet definite and so not yet registered.

Yep, this is definitely possible.


However..... if that were to be the case, the other disc would have different ISRC codes.

The ISRC codes that sequentially follow all these songs have already been given to an upcoming country release by an artist named Chris Janson, and the ISRC codes that precede the PR Deluxe ones belong to Steve Earle & The Dukes (album called So You Wanna Be An Outlaw) - both scheduled for release in June 2017 also. That said, there are some codes in that general area that appear to be blank, and could have been earmarked for another Prince disc.

The other thing I want to quickly point out, is that I am slightly annoyed at the picture edit with the blue background, which was made by The Prince Museum and based on my original graphic. The problem is that they've added numbers before the song, indicating sequence.

I specifically did not include numbers in the original edit because there's no way of knowing that the order the songs were registered in is going to be the order they will appear on the set.









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Reply #493 posted 04/22/17 7:09am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

our Militant is a little famous! I have seen several news stories about this! And I have gotten a few messages telling me about it! I said "yeah I know that guy!"

I admire two things about him: He has perfect hair like Jon Snow, and he's an natural fighter. His facebook post on getting an copyright strike for this leak earned my respect.

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










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Reply #494 posted 04/22/17 7:15am

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Militant said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I admire two things about him: He has perfect hair like Jon Snow, and he's an natural fighter. His facebook post on getting an copyright strike for this leak earned my respect.

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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Reply #495 posted 04/22/17 7:45am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

Militant said:

lol lol

Funnily enough my best friend went to school with Kit Harington. He's a great guy, from what I've heard, and deserves his success.

And thank you - yeah, I was super pissed with WB for that bullshit copyright strike. It was so petty of them.










I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

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Reply #496 posted 04/22/17 8:08am

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purpleprime said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

i thought kit was a candy bar?

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Reply #497 posted 04/22/17 9:41am

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purpleprime said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I met Kit (with the entire season 1 cast) at San Diego Comic Con back in 2011. He was an cool dude. Emilia Clarke was an goddess. ^_Q

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hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

You're confused? Imagine how I felt, the only Jon Snow which came to my mind was the UK's news journalist Jon Snow and I couldn't work out what was so fine about his hair.

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Reply #498 posted 04/22/17 9:44am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

purpleprime said:

hang on is Militant realy Kit Harington?...im confused confused

i thought kit was a candy bar?

Kit-Kat







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Reply #499 posted 04/22/17 9:45am

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Kit-Kats and journalists? Come on WB, give us some official news, things are rapidly going downhill in this thread now! lol

RIP sad
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Reply #500 posted 04/22/17 10:31am

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TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i thought kit was a candy bar?

Kit-Kat







Gimme a freaking break.

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Reply #501 posted 04/22/17 11:00am

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Since I kind of driven this thread a bit off course...I might as well push the peddle to the metal:

http://i.imgur.com/cWEjuFs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I2Js8q0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wq06aEB.jpg

(ya'll have to excuse how blurry these pics are. I had an blackberry 9700 camera with the photo resolution of an potatoe.)

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Reply #502 posted 04/22/17 11:14am

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Roadhouse Garden and Our Destiny have been played yesterday at P.PARK by the REVOLUTION. ....I say that I say nothing! cool
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Reply #503 posted 04/22/17 2:22pm

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udo said:

So....

For disc 2 and 3, what songs did we already have, did we already know, maybe in an alternate version?

What otehr info can we add to these titles?

Please report per track, disc.

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Dude, please just do some of this work yourself. Visit PrinceVault and write it up yourself and ask for input here. But almost "demanding" us to do this for you: not cool. Also: read this thread. Plenty of info already here.

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Reply #504 posted 04/22/17 2:24pm

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udo said:

So WB make us wait for a year for 1 disc of 'new' (old) material.

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Sigh. No, Prince made you wait DECADES.

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It appears they are still stuck in their `1 release per year mantra` that they did when LPs and CDs were relevant.

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You've already shown you know nothing about this release, yet here you are bitching and whining. This release was obviously held up since at least 2015 because Prince was sabotaging the process.

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Reply #505 posted 04/22/17 2:32pm

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master said:

jjam said:

Why not email Warners about your concerns?

They would never listen. There agenda is make as much money as possible for as little material as possible.

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Utter BS. The simple fact that this package will include two concert movies shows they're investing. Digitizing video and cleaning it up etc. takes a fuckload of money and is rarely worth the investments.

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Warner's have been terrible. 3 releases since princes death and made a pigs ear out of all.

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Which part of THE ESTATE IS NOT SETTLED do you lot find so fucking hard to comprehend?

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Reply #506 posted 04/22/17 2:46pm

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jaypotton said:

You assume I consider further release of Purple Rain a slight. I don't! It is just going to be an inevitable fact based on commerce and the desire by both the estate and Warners to exploit their assets.

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Newsflash: if this deluxe set doesn't do good business, none of that is likely to happen. Again: you're complaining about something that might not happen at all.

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Ever since reissues/remasters/deluxe editions etc started happening many artists and record companies have done this. Why won't it happen with Prince's material? The context for me making that comment of future releases was based on other people complaining that song X is not on this release. I was simply pointing out (based on established business practice) that they could well surface on future versions of Purple Rain. So what exactly is your beef?

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You're pretending this is some plan of them. It isn't. At this point Warners are trying to guess what balance to strike between investments and possible sales results. This is aggrevated by the fact Prince's estate is a mess and a bunch of chancers have already sold the rights to works they feel belong to them to another company in a suspect deal.

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And even on a practical level: Prince's vault seems to have been in a completely unorganised state. So sourcing track X and then applying all required work to get it release-ready is not some cheap operation.

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Bitching about this release because you imagine Warners is already busy planning some future release and are using this as a quick cash grab is absurd.

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Reply #507 posted 04/22/17 3:37pm

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Someone should ask that fellow from Estonia if he's heard anything new about the PR release.

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Reply #508 posted 04/22/17 3:44pm

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So I, like many, am dissappointed if Disc 2 comes out the way that it is listed here, but Disc 3 does look good. My big question is "why did they not officially announce this yesteday? and when will they get it announced officially and up for pre-order?? err I have my $$ waiting...I am ready to give it to u PP/ Estate/ Heirs and Lawyers...please let me!!! foodnow

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Reply #509 posted 04/22/17 5:05pm

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http://imgur.com/qoad16v

(I felt a need to make that candy bar purple.)

I'm happy if this is the actual track list. Could've been better, but also could've been a lot worse.

And apparently I need a refresher on how to post images. Help!

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