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Reply #120 posted 04/17/17 8:30am

Giovanni777

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Does anyone find it odd that Prince's handwritten lyrics to "U Got The Look" were in the suitcase with the pills? The suitcase labeled "Peter Bravestrong", which was allegedly his travel suitcase.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #121 posted 04/17/17 8:31am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Explain the doctor prescribing the oxy if he was helping with withdrawals. Explain the Diapham which is a generic for Vicodin. It can be used for seizures but why would you give that to a person trying to get off drugs.

He had a lot of medical issues going on either from the withdrawal or actual pain from something else

Remember he had $65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet and had made two trips to the hospital back in 2014 and 2015 per Kirk. All I going to say if you see the pics of him in the fall of 2015 who looks puffy in the face and a few months later looks like death warmed over.

The doc prescribed oxy because the idea was Prince had to do the withdrawal slowly. You cant just stop. It makes you extremely ill.

What about the Diapzham which is Vicodin but remember Dr. S had no background in addiction mgmt but he was listed as a critical care patient on at least one website. I am wondering it the rumor about wrongful death suit could be true.

He was practicing medience out of his field and prescribing a lot of meds. Not to mention a patient that was taking illegal stuff at the same time because he is dealing with withdrawals.

Does anyone remember the rumors about the Walgreen employees saying they were sorry about his health and that he was in" their prays" and he responded" you should have been praying a year ago"?

We all thought it was B.S but think about it anyone working at the pharmacy would know what he was being prescribed and they would have saw Kirk around. The pics we saw should him and Kirk riding together or maybe he started having Rxs written in Kirk's name to stop these types of comments.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:40am]

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Reply #122 posted 04/17/17 8:37am

DD55

Giovanni777 said:

Does anyone find it odd that Prince's handwritten lyrics to "U Got The Look" were in the suitcase with the pills? The suitcase labeled "Peter Bravestrong", which was allegedly his travel suitcase.

Yes the lyric sheet was interesting to me as well. I wonder why it was there.

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Reply #123 posted 04/17/17 8:39am

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Prince had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

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The emergency landing in Illinois, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 'pain pills'. So that's why the Narc shot was used.

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Reply #124 posted 04/17/17 8:39am

122884

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

'On April 20, 2016, Johnson went to a Minnetonka Walgreens to pick up Prince's medication. He later told police that was the first time he had done anything like that for Prince.

A suitcase was discovered next to Prince's bed on April 21, 2016 (the day of Prince's death) and among the items inside, there were prescription pill bottles in Johnson's name -- none of which were the medication prescribed by Schulenberg.

One pill bottle, which was labeled Vitamin D, instead had the controlled substance Ondanselron Hydrochloride inside. Another, labeled Ondansetron, contained the controlled substance Acetarninophen/oxycodone hydrochloride.

The date those pills were prescribed to Johnson, according to the pill bottles, was April 7. The prescribing doctor was listed as Schulenberg'.

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So, if I am reading this correctly, KJ lied to the police?

I am curious therefore as to why authorities are not taking this further..?

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-833/ondansetron-hcl-oral/details

Ondanselron Hydrochloride used for cancer treatment/radiation treatment.

Just tears today bawl

That med, also called Zofran, is also prescribed for other conditions causing chronic nausea and/or vomiting. I've got digestive issues and have had as "as needed" prescription for Zofran. I probably take one every other day or if I'm going through a rough patch maybe twice a day. It's not an uncommon drug and definitely is not just a "cancer drug" (although it's used to combat chemo and radiation nausea, that's true. but usually in those cases it's given via IV. I have dissolvable tablets which is what I'm assuming Prince had been prescribed to alleviate his nausea)

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Reply #125 posted 04/17/17 8:42am

rogifan

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



tmo1965 said:




TypoQueen said:


Lovejunky said: Ondansetron is a antiemetic drug also given for many non life threatening illnesses. For cancer 2 or 3 different antiemetic drugs can be given at same time to shut down the receptors that make you vomit.

I wonder could this drug be given for nausea caused by drug withdrawal also? The April 27 search warrant states that witnesses told detectives that Prince was suffering from recent withdrawal symptoms.



The drug was probably prescribed for nausea caused by withdrawal.


Or for nausea caused by the flu


Around Christmas time when I slipped and fell on the ice hit my head and suffered a concussion I was given a prescription for Ondansetron for vomiting. The concussion gave me a massive headache which in turn caused me to start vomiting (bad headaches and vomiting often go hand in hand).

All the comments here are proving my point. The information released today hasn't provided any answers it's only raised more questions and caused more speculation. And for what purpose? We are no closer to the truth today than we were yesterday. Sigh. 😔
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Reply #126 posted 04/17/17 8:43am

122884

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said: . [Edited 4/17/17 7:58am]

He could have had Rxs in the past. The following Rxs were written by Dr. S

Clonidine, Hydroxyzine Pamoate and Diazepam.

Diazepam can be used as an anti-seizure drug and the did find this in his system.

Clonidine- Uses as blood pressure med and they found a blood pressure mointor in one of his bags but it can also be used for ADD

Hydroxyzine- anxiety

Pamoate - anxiety

Why did he need two meds for anxiety.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:10am]

Diazepam is Valium, which can be used for treating seizures like other benzos but is also widely prescribed for anxiety too.

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Reply #127 posted 04/17/17 8:43am

laytonian

laurarichardson said:




What about the Diapzham which is Vicodin but remember Dr. S had no background in addiction mgmt but he was listed as a critical care patient on at least one website.


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NO.
It is spelled DIAZEPAM and is commonly known as Valium.
It is an anti-anxiety drug. In this case, it would be prescribed to help with withdrawal symptoms.
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Please, Laura. We know your heart is in the right place. But there is a problem. Almost everything you claim in this forum is somehow mixed up our flat out wrong. This is harmful because some see you as an authority.
A little research before you hit that keyboard AND reading for understanding would serve all better.
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Reply #128 posted 04/17/17 8:44am

Dibblekins

PennyPurple said:

Prince had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

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The emergency landing in Illinois, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 'pain pills'. So that's why the Narc shot was used.

The warrants also said that the doctor at Moline Hospital wanted to treat him for 'opiate overdose' but he 'refused treatment' and left later that morning.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:45am]

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Reply #129 posted 04/17/17 8:44am

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122884 said:

laurarichardson said:

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-833/ondansetron-hcl-oral/details

Ondanselron Hydrochloride used for cancer treatment/radiation treatment.

Just tears today bawl

That med, also called Zofran, is also prescribed for other conditions causing chronic nausea and/or vomiting. I've got digestive issues and have had as "as needed" prescription for Zofran. I probably take one every other day or if I'm going through a rough patch maybe twice a day. It's not an uncommon drug and definitely is not just a "cancer drug" (although it's used to combat chemo and radiation nausea, that's true. but usually in those cases it's given via IV. I have dissolvable tablets which is what I'm assuming Prince had been prescribed to alleviate his nausea)

https://www.drugs.com/ondansetron.html

It does not say it has to be given in a drip for nausea due to cancer or treatment. It stays it is taken in a pill form.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:45am]

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Reply #130 posted 04/17/17 8:45am

paulludvig

PennyPurple said:

Prince had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

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The emergency landing in Illinois, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 'pain pills'. So that's why the Narc shot was used.

What history?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #131 posted 04/17/17 8:46am

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122884 said:

laurarichardson said:

He could have had Rxs in the past. The following Rxs were written by Dr. S

Clonidine, Hydroxyzine Pamoate and Diazepam.

Diazepam can be used as an anti-seizure drug and the did find this in his system.

Clonidine- Uses as blood pressure med and they found a blood pressure mointor in one of his bags but it can also be used for ADD

Hydroxyzine- anxiety

Pamoate - anxiety

Why did he need two meds for anxiety.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:10am]

Diazepam is Valium, which can be used for treating seizures like other benzos but is also widely prescribed for anxiety too.

So prescribed 3 anxiety meds?

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Reply #132 posted 04/17/17 8:46am

122884

tmo1965 said:

TypoQueen said:

Lovejunky said: Ondansetron is a antiemetic drug also given for many non life threatening illnesses. For cancer 2 or 3 different antiemetic drugs can be given at same time to shut down the receptors that make you vomit.

I wonder could this drug be given for nausea caused by drug withdrawal also? The April 27 search warrant states that witnesses told detectives that Prince was suffering from recent withdrawal symptoms.

I've had a RX for Ondansetron (Zofran) for years to help cope with nausea due to chronic digestive issues I have. I know other people that take it for nausea due to other conditions so I think if anybody is struggling with nausea as a symptom, it's a drug that can be prescribed. And belive me, it can be a godsend when you are feeling nauseous so much of the time and can't eat or keep down food. So yeah I think if Prince was suffering from withdrawal symptoms including nausea, he'd be given Zofran.

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Reply #133 posted 04/17/17 8:47am

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paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

.

The emergency landing in Illinois, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 'pain pills'. So that's why the Narc shot was used.

What history?

No history he was going thru withdrawals recently and getting help from Dr. S. Could have been trying to ween himself.

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Reply #134 posted 04/17/17 8:48am

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laurarichardson said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




laurarichardson said:



Explain the doctor prescribing the oxy if he was helping with withdrawals. Explain the Diapham which is a generic for Vicodin. It can be used for seizures but why would you give that to a person trying to get off drugs.



He had a lot of medical issues going on either from the withdrawal or actual pain from something else



Remember he had $65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet and had made two trips to the hospital back in 2014 and 2015 per Kirk. All I going to say if you see the pics of him in the fall of 2015 who looks puffy in the face and a few months later looks like death warmed over.





The doc prescribed oxy because the idea was Prince had to do the withdrawal slowly. You cant just stop. It makes you extremely ill.



What about the Diapzham which is Vicodin but remember Dr. S had no background in addiction mgmt but he was listed as a critical care patient on at least one website. I am wondering it the rumor about wrongful death suit could be true.



He was practicing medience out of his field and prescribing a lot of meds. Not to mention a patient that was taking illegal stuff at the same time because he is dealing with withdrawals.




Does anyone remember the rumors about the Walgreen employees saying they were sorry about his health and that he was in" their prays" and he responded" you should have been praying a year ago"?



We all thought it was B.S but think about it anyone working at the pharmacy would know what he was being prescribed and they would have saw Kirk around. The pics we saw should him and Kirk riding together or maybe he started having Rxs written in Kirk's name to stop these types of comments.




[Edited 4/17/17 8:40am]


[Edited 4/17/17 8:49am]
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Reply #135 posted 04/17/17 8:48am

122884

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

I wonder could this drug be given for nausea caused by drug withdrawal also? The April 27 search warrant states that witnesses told detectives that Prince was suffering from recent withdrawal symptoms.

Explain the doctor prescribing the oxy if he was helping with withdrawals. Explain the Diapham which is a generic for Vicodin. It can be used for seizures but why would you give that to a person trying to get off drugs.

He had a lot of medical issues going on either from the withdrawal or actual pain from something else

Remember he had $65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet and had made two trips to the hospital back in 2014 and 2015 per Kirk. All I going to say if you see the pics of him in the fall of 2015 who looks puffy in the face and a few months later looks like death warmed over.

Diazepam is the generic for VALIUM.

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Reply #136 posted 04/17/17 8:48am

laytonian

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READ, people.
Prince did not have cancer.
It's unlikely he had any terminal illness.
He was in a romantic relationship, which someone dying of "that" would not be in.
He did not have a regular doctor.
Unfortunately, he was treating himself for pain. He had been for years.
He worked himself to death for us.
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Reply #137 posted 04/17/17 8:49am

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laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

What history?

No history he was going thru withdrawals recently and getting help from Dr. S. Could have been trying to ween himself.

Just repeating what was in the warrant. Word. For. Word.

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Reply #138 posted 04/17/17 8:49am

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rogifan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Or for nausea caused by the flu
Around Christmas time when I slipped and fell on the ice hit my head and suffered a concussion I was given a prescription for Ondansetron for vomiting. The concussion gave me a massive headache which in turn caused me to start vomiting (bad headaches and vomiting often go hand in hand). All the comments here are proving my point. The information released today hasn't provided any answers it's only raised more questions and caused more speculation. And for what purpose? We are no closer to the truth today than we were yesterday. Sigh. 😔

More chaos & confusion. Don't need it. confused

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Reply #139 posted 04/17/17 8:50am

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Dibblekins said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

.

The emergency landing in Illinois, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 'pain pills'. So that's why the Narc shot was used.

The warrants also said that the doctor at Moline Hospital wanted to treat him for 'opiate overdose' but he 'refused treatment' and left later that morning.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:45am]

The only thing I'm finding is the warrants, is there another site I should be searching?

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Reply #140 posted 04/17/17 8:50am

1Sasha

Remember the chef said he was having trouble eating, etc.? Maybe those pills were to counteract those issues? But why is KJ's name on the bottle?

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Reply #141 posted 04/17/17 8:51am

laytonian

laurarichardson said:



122884 said:




laurarichardson said:



He could have had Rxs in the past. The following Rxs were written by Dr. S


Clonidine, Hydroxyzine Pamoate and Diazepam.



Diazepam can be used as an anti-seizure drug and the did find this in his system.




Clonidine- Uses as blood pressure med and they found a blood pressure mointor in one of his bags but it can also be used for ADD




Hydroxyzine- anxiety




Pamoate - anxiety



Why did he need two meds for anxiety.


[Edited 4/17/17 8:10am]



Diazepam is Valium, which can be used for treating seizures like other benzos but is also widely prescribed for anxiety too.



So prescribed 3 anxiety meds?


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No.
Laura had it mixed up.
Again.
Read the search warrant for Koenfield's son's backpack.
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Reply #142 posted 04/17/17 8:51am

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Prince's death scene was riddled with pills strewn around his home ... this according to search warrants just released by Minnesota authorities.

According to new docs, law enforcement found Ziploc bags with pills as well as envelopes containing pills.

The docs bear out what TMZ has reported ... Prince's bodyguard was the person who went to a Walgreens pharmacy the day

And, Prince used an alias -- Peter Bravestrong -- and cops found a suitcase with that name that contained pill bottles along with the lyrics for the song, "U Got the Look."

The main doctor who was treating Prince -- Dr. Michael Schulenberg -- admitted to a detective he had prescribed Prince Oxycodone the same day Prince OD'd on a jet -- 6 days before he died. The doctor put the Rx in Prince's bodyguard's name.

Prince would regularly get B12 injections before his concerts to feel better and they were set up through his managers.

And this is interesting ... Prince didn't use a cellphone ... apparently because he was once hacked and didn't trust it. His communications were through emails and landlines.

*Many bottles with Kirky J's name on it.

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Reply #143 posted 04/17/17 8:53am

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laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

What history?

No history he was going thru withdrawals recently and getting help from Dr. S. Could have been trying to ween himself.

The search warrant said he has a history of withdrawal.

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Reply #144 posted 04/17/17 8:53am

122884

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Explain the doctor prescribing the oxy if he was helping with withdrawals. Explain the Diapham which is a generic for Vicodin. It can be used for seizures but why would you give that to a person trying to get off drugs.

He had a lot of medical issues going on either from the withdrawal or actual pain from something else

Remember he had $65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet and had made two trips to the hospital back in 2014 and 2015 per Kirk. All I going to say if you see the pics of him in the fall of 2015 who looks puffy in the face and a few months later looks like death warmed over.

The doc prescribed oxy because the idea was Prince had to do the withdrawal slowly. You cant just stop. It makes you extremely ill.

Exactly this. If you try stopping certain drugs cold turkey or taper too quickly and start having withdrawal symptoms, and say you go to the ER, the ER will give you the drug to stop the withdrawal symptoms and prevent any veyr serious withdrawal symptoms from happening, like seizures, and then instruct you to see your regular doctor immediately or if you're bad off enough, maybe they'd even admit you to hte hospital. But the point is they'll give you the very drug you need to get off of if you're in the midst of withdrawal and suffering symptoms. Maybe this Dr S gave Prince enough of the drug to get him by until he went into treatment where he'd then be in an environment to taper off safely

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Reply #145 posted 04/17/17 8:53am

Dibblekins

PennyPurple said:

Dibblekins said:

The warrants also said that the doctor at Moline Hospital wanted to treat him for 'opiate overdose' but he 'refused treatment' and left later that morning.

[Edited 4/17/17 8:45am]

The only thing I'm finding is the warrants, is there another site I should be searching?


It's in the warrants, but you have to scrutinise every page, lol!

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Reply #146 posted 04/17/17 8:54am

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

What about the Diapzham which is Vicodin but remember Dr. S had no background in addiction mgmt but he was listed as a critical care patient on at least one website.

. NO. It is spelled DIAZEPAM and is commonly known as Valium. It is an anti-anxiety drug. In this case, it would be prescribed to help with withdrawal symptoms. . Please, Laura. We know your heart is in the right place. But there is a problem. Almost everything you claim in this forum is somehow mixed up our flat out wrong. This is harmful because some see you as an authority. A little research before you hit that keyboard AND reading for understanding would serve all better. .

I spelled name wrong so fucking sue me. This drug can also be used for seizures it has actually been discussed before and was mentioned in media reports. You realize that Dr. S would have prescribed a total of 3 drugs for anxiety. Does that seem a little odd to anyone?

See the link below.

http://www.epilepsy.com/medications/diazepam

It is used to treat partial seziues which if you believe what Mayte said it kind of sounds like that was what he was having.

I know some of you want me to be wrong but stop confusing the messenger with the message. You are free to not agree with my opinions which is what they are at no time have I said I know everything and once again you have a link.

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Reply #147 posted 04/17/17 8:55am

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Reply #148 posted 04/17/17 8:55am

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laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

What history?

No history he was going thru withdrawals recently and getting help from Dr. S. Could have been trying to ween himself.

Laura on the warrant it's listed on the page where it says Application 1-2. 3rd paragraph down.

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Reply #149 posted 04/17/17 8:56am

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

What about the Diapzham which is Vicodin but remember Dr. S had no background in addiction mgmt but he was listed as a critical care patient on at least one website.

. NO. It is spelled DIAZEPAM and is commonly known as Valium. It is an anti-anxiety drug. In this case, it would be prescribed to help with withdrawal symptoms. . Please, Laura. We know your heart is in the right place. But there is a problem. Almost everything you claim in this forum is somehow mixed up our flat out wrong. This is harmful because some see you as an authority. A little research before you hit that keyboard AND reading for understanding would serve all better. .

So more and more it looks like Prince was indeed addicted to pain medication and was probably trying to ween himself off them. The Doctor's son that arrived at PP on the day of Prince's death told the Police Kirk contacted his father because Prince was struggling with addiction. The leaflet found in one of the rooms at PP means Prince was aware of their facility and at least considering starting a programe with them?
Him having stomach problems, the flu, not eating, etc could also be related to withdrawl symptoms. The medication for nausea that is usually given to treat chemo side efects could have been perscribed because of nausea and vomiting during withdrawal effects. He probably tried to do it alone and did not succeed, hence going to the doctor and having medical tests done. That happened in between the doctor perscribing him oxysomething (I'm not a native speaker, forget the correct name) and then him ODeing on that same day (could this be relevant?) and his death. He was also considering an holistic doctor because he was probably wanting to check into rehab as a last resort?There's no hard evidence that he might have had a serious ilness and I'm inclined to think that if he did, there would have been medication for that around the house.

Which still leaves the question for the 65K medical bill. Is there a chance it was not his, but something he paied for someone else?

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