rogifan said:

rogifan said:

Kirk was PP facility manager when Prince was still alive. I doubt he had to be hired by Graceland to still have access. Same with Trevor Guy. Let's put it this way if the family didn't want either of them there they wouldn't be.

That's right!

damn kirk didn't come off too good in that interview, fuck, why even give an interview.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

That's right!

--Stay out of grown folks conversations.

Who the F are you? You must be talking to yourself again, because YOU are in EVERY conversation.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

You don't think the family has a say in whether Kirk is still allowed inside PP? Please.

--Because they have not been declared heirs yet and are not running anything. Some of you need to keep up with the court docs. I think the Graceland people listen to family and work with them better than Breamer, Londell or Comerica but the family is not hiring people out at Graceland.

I don't think Kirk had any malicious intent toward Prince -- wasn't part of any conspiracy or anything like that -- but he might have lent Prince a hand in obtaining the illegal prescriptions.

I believe that is why he lawyered up so quickly, and remains pretty silent even now.

I can't imagine the guilt he might have if this is true, on top of the already massive sense of loss.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Se7en said:

I don't think Kirk had any malicious intent toward Prince -- wasn't part of any conspiracy or anything like that -- but he might have lent Prince a hand in obtaining the illegal prescriptions.

I believe that is why he lawyered up so quickly, and remains pretty silent even now.

I can't imagine the guilt he might have if this is true, on top of the already massive sense of loss.

I feel the same way

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

paradise000 said:

rogifan said:

There is no way he'd still be involved with PP if he was under suspicion for anything. Also he's part of the original NPG group that's going to be touring later this year (and touring outside of the United States)

Seems like KJ was replaced as a drummer, don't know if it was only today or for the whole tour.


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People the JFK assassination is still an open case in Dallas.

This will remain open because they don't know where these meds came from.

With the DEA investigating they have checked mail order and prescriptions and found nothing. Finding no paper trail means that everyone that worked at PP is a suspect.

paradise000 said:

rogifan said:

There is no way he'd still be involved with PP if he was under suspicion for anything. Also he's part of the original NPG group that's going to be touring later this year (and touring outside of the United States)

Seems like KJ was replaced as a drummer, don't know if it was only today or for the whole tour. Is this the same tour we're talking about?




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muleFunk said:

People the JFK assassination is still an open case in Dallas.

This will remain open because they don't know where these meds came from.

With the DEA investigating they have checked mail order and prescriptions and found nothing. Finding no paper trail means that everyone that worked at PP is a suspect.

that's also a perfect example of people running around for decades with wacky conspiracy theories all because there were no concrete answers and things got bungled when it happened.

The JFK assassination, though, was a singular event affecting one very high-profile person; there was no broad social trend of presidential assassinations. Opioid overdose is an epidemic that is killing hundreds of people per year in Minnesota alone. And fentanyl-laced counterfeit opioids have "infiltrated the US drug market." When you look at Prince's death as part of this broader social landscape, it's much less mystifying than something like the JFK assassination. And thinking of Prince's death as part of a larger trends helps understand the limitations of the investigation into his death and finding that one source who provided his specific drugs. Authorities aren't just looking into his death; they're dealing with literally HUNDREDS of similar deaths as part of a nearly out-of-control epidemic.

PeteSilas said:

muleFunk said:

People the JFK assassination is still an open case in Dallas.

This will remain open because they don't know where these meds came from.

With the DEA investigating they have checked mail order and prescriptions and found nothing. Finding no paper trail means that everyone that worked at PP is a suspect.

that's also a perfect example of people running around for decades with wacky conspiracy theories all because there were no concrete answers and things got bungled when it happened.

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disch said:

The JFK assassination, though, was a singular event affecting one very high-profile person; there was no broad social trend of presidential assassinations. Opioid overdose is an epidemic that is killing hundreds of people per year in Minnesota alone. And fentanyl-laced counterfeit opioids have "infiltrated the US drug market." When you look at Prince's death as part of this broader social landscape, it's much less mystifying than something like the JFK assassination. And thinking of Prince's death as part of a larger trends helps understand the limitations of the investigation into his death and finding that one source who provided his specific drugs. Authorities aren't just looking into his death; they're dealing with literally HUNDREDS of similar deaths as part of a nearly out-of-control epidemic.

PeteSilas said:

that's also a perfect example of people running around for decades with wacky conspiracy theories all because there were no concrete answers and things got bungled when it happened.

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ya but there are just so many other things that weren't right, that's why people are still coming to nutty "conclusions". hard, solid answers would back us up a bit. Bruce Lee died of a hashish reaction, not the ridiculous aspirin allergy that the public was given. the result of such a claim, such a farfetched claim, and to be honest, even the hashish as a cause wouldn't have stopped conspiracies because that is almost unheard of too. but, because the coroner was so dishonest, it helped the conspiracies that he was murdered by triads, by his film partner, by a jealous rival. Lots of that could have at least been squelched if the real reason was given from the git go.

the kirky j interview was wierd, just wierd, he seemed full of bravado, the kind that is compensatory, he acted like guilty people act, haughty, dismissive, arrogant. guarantee you, he was grilled before and unlike the media, the feds would have had his ass quacking in his boot.s

i don't know much about Bruce Lee, but it sounds like a hasish reaction might be a really unusual thing for someone to die of; the rarity of that might be a contribuing factor to the conspiracy theories. Opioid overdose -- even, more specifically opioid OD by someone in their 50s, or opioid overdose on fentanyl-laced counterfeit pills -- is really, really common as part of a nationwide epidemic. It seems to me to be a different sort of beast. And while it may seem incredibly mysterious or inexplicable to us, investigators/officials see this same thing happen literally every.single.day.

PeteSilas said:

disch said:

The JFK assassination, though, was a singular event affecting one very high-profile person; there was no broad social trend of presidential assassinations. Opioid overdose is an epidemic that is killing hundreds of people per year in Minnesota alone. And fentanyl-laced counterfeit opioids have "infiltrated the US drug market." When you look at Prince's death as part of this broader social landscape, it's much less mystifying than something like the JFK assassination. And thinking of Prince's death as part of a larger trends helps understand the limitations of the investigation into his death and finding that one source who provided his specific drugs. Authorities aren't just looking into his death; they're dealing with literally HUNDREDS of similar deaths as part of a nearly out-of-control epidemic.

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ya but there are just so many other things that weren't right, that's why people are still coming to nutty "conclusions". hard, solid answers would back us up a bit. Bruce Lee died of a hashish reaction, not the ridiculous aspirin allergy that the public was given. the result of such a claim, such a farfetched claim, and to be honest, even the hashish as a cause wouldn't have stopped conspiracies because that is almost unheard of too. but, because the coroner was so dishonest, it helped the conspiracies that he was murdered by triads, by his film partner, by a jealous rival. Lots of that could have at least been squelched if the real reason was given from the git go.

PeteSilas said:

muleFunk said:

People the JFK assassination is still an open case in Dallas.

This will remain open because they don't know where these meds came from.

With the DEA investigating they have checked mail order and prescriptions and found nothing. Finding no paper trail means that everyone that worked at PP is a suspect.

that's also a perfect example of people running around for decades with wacky conspiracy theories all because there were no concrete answers and things got bungled when it happened.

JFK assassination is way more complicated than you think and is not a conspiracy theory.

muleFunk said:

PeteSilas said:

that's also a perfect example of people running around for decades with wacky conspiracy theories all because there were no concrete answers and things got bungled when it happened.

JFK assassination is way more complicated than you think and is not a conspiracy theory.

all due respect, there are a zillion theories, some of them have to be incorrect.

disch said:

i don't know much about Bruce Lee, but it sounds like a hasish reaction might be a really unusual thing for someone to die of; the rarity of that might be a contribuing factor to the conspiracy theories. Opioid overdose -- even, more specifically opioid OD by someone in their 50s, or opioid overdose on fentanyl-laced counterfeit pills -- is really, really common as part of a nationwide epidemic. It seems to me to be a different sort of beast. And while it may seem incredibly mysterious or inexplicable to us, investigators/officials see this same thing happen literally every.single.day.

PeteSilas said:

ya but there are just so many other things that weren't right, that's why people are still coming to nutty "conclusions". hard, solid answers would back us up a bit. Bruce Lee died of a hashish reaction, not the ridiculous aspirin allergy that the public was given. the result of such a claim, such a farfetched claim, and to be honest, even the hashish as a cause wouldn't have stopped conspiracies because that is almost unheard of too. but, because the coroner was so dishonest, it helped the conspiracies that he was murdered by triads, by his film partner, by a jealous rival. Lots of that could have at least been squelched if the real reason was given from the git go.

to me, it's as mysterious as bruce's death, it really is. Bruce however was a lot younger, a lot more vibrant at that time in his life and the cause of hashish wasn't then and isn't now a very common thing but I have to believe the doctor who treated him for the same thing a month or so before. That doctor did say that brain swelling/allergic reaction was known to happen to hong kong chinese men and he did warn bruce. Bruce,like Prince, i don't believe was a drug addict as such, i think he was just under tremendous stress and strain and was desperately seeking to relax, you see, the fame he had was overnight and with his temperament it was difficult to deal with. crazy, but i think that's the reason. like prince, to go further than that we have to get even more crazy (chinese death curse, assasination, poisoning) which i won't say is impossible, no i won't but I'd go with the hashish theory.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

--I was being sarcastic I do not think it was ever declared a crime scence

I didn't think it was officially ever declared as a crime scene either
So why is Comerica on the list of not telling the truth?

PeteSilas said:

muleFunk said:

JFK assassination is way more complicated than you think and is not a conspiracy theory.

all due respect, there are a zillion theories, some of them have to be incorrect.

Once this is over I'll give you the correct one.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

--They work for Graceland not the Nelson family or PRN estate or NPG LLC. Why would the Graceland not hire people already familiar with facilty.

How do you know they work for Graceland? Have you seen employment contracts? Quit pretending you have all the answers when you don't.

Because I have the ability to read. Per the court docs Paisley Park is being managed by Graceland Inc. not the Nelson family. The Nelson sibs have not been made heirs to the estate in fact they have a court date coming up in May were they are asking again to be made heirs. At this time they are not running anything. They are informed via meetings of what is going on with the estate by Comerica and I am sure the Graceland people provide a report as well. Since when do companies let outside people hire staff?

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