ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: --He cut a deal with authorities or he is a suspect and he cannot leave the area. He has not been charged with anything so there is no reason to not let him work. I am sure he still works at Lifetime Fitness.

I do not believe Kirk has not cut any deals for immunity.

The police do not cut deals with suspects that supplied drugs to another individual that

ultimately led to the individuals death. Even more so in high profile cases.

The police do not have enough evidence to charge Kirk with any crime or they

would have charged him immediately.

Mark my words no one will ever be charged in connection with P's death.

Thank you!

i think all of this theorizing is just pointless now. It's none of our business how he died, or whom was responsible. If the family/estate wants it knpwn they will let it be known.

As for what was going on in P's head that night, ot's probably safe to assume that what happened happened quickly enough that he didn't feel much of anything, save for a fear of dying, anger or frustration that the pain he was in wouldn't go away. In my mind, the overdose put him into an unconscious state quickly before he actually died.

The only things we have to be sure of at this point is we don't truly know anything. We aren't owed any information from the family/estate, unless they feel they should inform the public of anything. We know that this man put himself out there for the art and for the fans. We know there is a catalog of almost 40 years of released material for us to enjoy, with so much more that will very likely see the light of day, someday. Everything else is just an amazing amount of time spent theorizing and speculating with little factual knowledge, and that includes both the general fan population and the moderators of this site. Any of us can speak like we are an authority on P's life and passing, but in the end we are all in the dark and throwing possibilities and ideas out there hoping to bring our own individual levels of closure.

Fact:Prince is dead.

Fact:Drugs were found in his system

Let him rest in peace. Let's remember and celebrate his legacy, not pore over every conspiracy theory or demand information that's really none of our business. In the 90s he would chant "Prince is dead. Long live the New Power Generation". Let him rest, let his music live.

MD431Madcat said:

Personal trainers are very well versed in obtaining illegal stimulants etc...

just sayin'

...

Absolutely. And if anyone was privy to the intimate details of drug abuse it's long-time pal Kirk. Those secrets he will take to the grave with him.

nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I do not believe Kirk has not cut any deals for immunity.

The police do not cut deals with suspects that supplied drugs to another individual that

ultimately led to the individuals death. Even more so in high profile cases.

The police do not have enough evidence to charge Kirk with any crime or they

would have charged him immediately.

Mark my words no one will ever be charged in connection with P's death.

If no charges will be filed, then why continue the investigation? Why not close it and move on?

They will not close the investigation because they do not want to release their

investigative files.

I also do not believe they will close their investigation for years, if ever, and will always say it is

an "active" investigation.

MMJas said:

Mumio said:

I had seen this and I believed at the time it was his response to a story that Andre Cymone told about P's first guitar (at the start of a live vid feed he did last Friday night). Apparently Chazz was miffed because he wasn't mentioned in the story and started throwing shade. Here is Andre's response: https://www.facebook.com/...nref=story

[Edited 3/28/17 22:19pm]

Oh, I see. So people are getting upset for not being dully recognized as having been a part of Prince's life...

Like I said before, I can't help but feel that all these people are just trying hard to ride on the purple wave.

Oh yeah, this dude has been working it hard with the interviews that tell no one anything and the little outbursts here and there. A presence must be maintained I guess. Family, but not an heir, it's got to be a hard pill to swallow.

brokenhearted1972 said:

i think all of this theorizing is just pointless now. It's none of our business how he died, or whom was responsible. If the family/estate wants it knpwn they will let it be known.

As for what was going on in P's head that night, ot's probably safe to assume that what happened happened quickly enough that he didn't feel much of anything, save for a fear of dying, anger or frustration that the pain he was in wouldn't go away. In my mind, the overdose put him into an unconscious state quickly before he actually died.

The only things we have to be sure of at this point is we don't truly know anything. We aren't owed any information from the family/estate, unless they feel they should inform the public of anything. We know that this man put himself out there for the art and for the fans. We know there is a catalog of almost 40 years of released material for us to enjoy, with so much more that will very likely see the light of day, someday. Everything else is just an amazing amount of time spent theorizing and speculating with little factual knowledge, and that includes both the general fan population and the moderators of this site. Any of us can speak like we are an authority on P's life and passing, but in the end we are all in the dark and throwing possibilities and ideas out there hoping to bring our own individual levels of closure.

Fact:Prince is dead.

Fact:Drugs were found in his system

Let him rest in peace. Let's remember and celebrate his legacy, not pore over every conspiracy theory or demand information that's really none of our business. In the 90s he would chant "Prince is dead. Long live the New Power Generation". Let him rest, let his music live.

But yet you theorize too.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

If no charges will be filed, then why continue the investigation? Why not close it and move on?

They will not close the investigation because they do not want to release their

investigative files.

I also do not believe they will close their investigation for years, if ever, and will always say it is

an "active" investigation.

You know I am completely on board with everything you've said here and a couple of your other posts in this thread

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

If no charges will be filed, then why continue the investigation? Why not close it and move on?

They will not close the investigation because they do not want to release their

investigative files.

I also do not believe they will close their investigation for years, if ever, and will always say it is

an "active" investigation.

Thanks.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: --He cut a deal with authorities or he is a suspect and he cannot leave the area. He has not been charged with anything so there is no reason to not let him work. I am sure he still works at Lifetime Fitness.

I do not believe Kirk has cut any deals for immunity.

The police do not cut deals with suspects that supplied drugs to another individual that

ultimately led to the individuals death. Even more so in high profile cases.

The police do not have enough evidence to charge Kirk with any crime or they

would have charged him immediately.

Mark my words no one will ever be charged in connection with P's death.

[Edited 3/29/17 9:25am]

The interviewer said he is a part of the ongoing investigation. So yes he is cooperating with the police and in this country you have gangbangers and mob people that killed people cut deals so the police could go after bigger fish. It happens all the time. Remember the police said they were not releashing the files because of suspects that were under investigation would be tipped off. (not the exact wording ) They are looking at person or persons. They already said this.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

If no charges will be filed, then why continue the investigation? Why not close it and move on?

They will not close the investigation because they do not want to release their

investigative files.

I also do not believe they will close their investigation for years, if ever, and will always say it is

an "active" investigation.

I think they will close it and it will go unsolved. Police departments do not like to keep cases open the idea is to solve or close. It will go in the cold case pile. I think the family will be pissed off and maybe will release some sort of statment. At this point the case has been going on for a year and if the DEA cannot find anything I doubt the Carver County Keystone Cops can do anything.

Thank you some people on this board I swear are in the 5th grade. As if being a part of an investigation would ban you from working.

MD431Madcat said:

i think thats what the words 'Ongoing investigation' mean.

PennyPurple said:

Laura, you don't know that. You don't know that he cut any deals and you don't know that he can't leave the area. Do you think that he would still be working at PP if he did anything wrong?

PennyPurple said:

There is no way he'd still be involved with PP if he was under suspicion for anything. Also he's part of the original NPG group that's going to be touring later this year (and touring outside of the United States).

laurarichardson said:

Kirk would not be working at PP if he was a suspect in a criminal investigation.

brokenhearted1972 said:

Fact...someone got those fake stamped hydrocodone pills laced with fentanyl
That is why he is no longer here.

rogifan said:

Kirk would not be working at PP if he was a suspect in a criminal investigation.

Agree.

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Laura, you don't know that. You don't know that he cut any deals and you don't know that he can't leave the area. Do you think that he would still be working at PP if he did anything wrong?

There is no way he'd still be involved with PP if he was under suspicion for anything. Also he's part of the original NPG group that's going to be touring later this year (and touring outside of the United States).

Exactly!

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said: There is no way he'd still be involved with PP if he was under suspicion for anything. Also he's part of the original NPG group that's going to be touring later this year (and touring outside of the United States).

Exactly!

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--He cut a deal with authorities or he is a suspect and he cannot leave the area.

There is a word use here. OR. Did some of you miss it? He is a part of the investiagation people. Unless you think CBS news is telling a tall tale.

laurarichardson said:

Thank you some people on this board I swear are in the 5th grade. As if being a part of an investigation would ban you from working.

MD431Madcat said:

i think thats what the words 'Ongoing investigation' mean.

Laura....YOU are the one who is not comprehending what we are saying. Kirk wouldn't be working at PP, if the family thought he was involved in Princes death.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Thank you some people on this board I swear are in the 5th grade. As if being a part of an investigation would ban you from working.

Laura....YOU are the one who is not comprehending what we are saying. Kirk wouldn't be working at PP, if the family thought he was involved in Princes death.

He is involved in the ongoing investigation that came from the news. I am sorry you do not like hearing what the news is telling you. Paisley Park is being run by the Graceland people who have invested money in the facility. It is not being run by the Nelson family who have not been officially declared heirs.

[Edited 3/29/17 10:55am]

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Laura....YOU are the one who is not comprehending what we are saying. Kirk wouldn't be working at PP, if the family thought he was involved in Princes death.

He is involved in the ongoing investigation that came from the news. I am sorry you do not like hearing what the news is telling you. Paisley Park is being run by the Graceland people who have invested money in the facility. It is not being run by the Nelson family who have not been officially declared heirs.

[Edited 3/29/17 10:55am]

Trust me. Tyka and the Nelson family have a say who works there.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

He is involved in the ongoing investigation that came from the news. I am sorry you do not like hearing what the news is telling you. Paisley Park is being run by the Graceland people who have invested money in the facility. It is not being run by the Nelson family who have not been officially declared heirs.

[Edited 3/29/17 10:55am]

Trust me. Tyka and the Nelson family have a say who works there.

Well let us know the next time you punch the clock at PP.

Kirk mentioned... he is angry and they are angry what is he angry about and who is they???
If your BF was found dead you would be sad it was his use of the word angry that got me thinking

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Where exactly in the interview did he say this? I must have missed it.

laurarichardson said:

You don't think the family has a say in whether Kirk is still allowed inside PP? Please.

brokenhearted1972 said:

i think all of this theorizing is just pointless now. It's none of our business how he died, or whom was responsible. If the family/estate wants it knpwn they will let it be known.

As for what was going on in P's head that night, ot's probably safe to assume that what happened happened quickly enough that he didn't feel much of anything, save for a fear of dying, anger or frustration that the pain he was in wouldn't go away. In my mind, the overdose put him into an unconscious state quickly before he actually died.

The only things we have to be sure of at this point is we don't truly know anything. We aren't owed any information from the family/estate, unless they feel they should inform the public of anything. We know that this man put himself out there for the art and for the fans. We know there is a catalog of almost 40 years of released material for us to enjoy, with so much more that will very likely see the light of day, someday. Everything else is just an amazing amount of time spent theorizing and speculating with little factual knowledge, and that includes both the general fan population and the moderators of this site. Any of us can speak like we are an authority on P's life and passing, but in the end we are all in the dark and throwing possibilities and ideas out there hoping to bring our own individual levels of closure.

Fact:Prince is dead.

Fact:Drugs were found in his system

Let him rest in peace. Let's remember and celebrate his legacy, not pore over every conspiracy theory or demand information that's really none of our business. In the 90s he would chant "Prince is dead. Long live the New Power Generation". Let him rest, let his music live.

if elvis' fans thought like that he'd have gone down as just having a heart attack.

rogifan said:

It was his cousin ...same show

rogifan said:

--Because they have not been declared heirs yet and are not running anything. Some of you need to keep up with the court docs. I think the Graceland people listen to family and work with them better than Breamer, Londell or Comerica but the family is not hiring people out at Graceland.

MD431Madcat said:

personal trainers are very well versed in obtaining illegal stimulants ect...

just sayin'

...

steroids too, could you see prince with roid rage? and...185 pounds of rock solid muscle, that would have been interesting, not to mention what it would have done to his music.

laurarichardson said:

Kirk was PP facility manager when Prince was still alive. I doubt he had to be hired by Graceland to still have access. Same with Trevor Guy. Let's put it this way if the family didn't want either of them there they wouldn't be.