I ordered my copy when it was first announced. I think she has a right to tell her story. And if she makes some money from the book, or from the subsequent public attention, that is fine with me. When the girlfriends and protegees start to need money, they will be doing their things - Mayte was at least his wife and his child's mother, and she wasn't treated that well by him IMO, from all of the reports. Let her go.

BillieBalloon said:

Menes said:

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:

No, I've not seen the picture. But that isn't what I'm questioning about. You stated that she wore it simply to promote the book and that the book comes first, not Prince. So I was wanting to see where you read that? But if you are just getting it from a picture of Mayte's mom, then ... it's just your interpretation of why she is wearing the symbol necklace. I never watched Hollywood Exes, had no desire to, so I have take others words that she spoke poorly of Prince in the show. But to state with certainty that is the reason she wore the necklace, without anything to support that, is just supposition and interpretation of what you believe her motives to be.

Do you think Nelly wore the necklace 2 weeks ago because shes been listening to Raspberry Beret on full blast and was just having a Prince moment? Come on, 2+2=4 But you wont accept that, its your problem not mine.

She more likely was listening to Thieves in the Temple.

I agree,

1Sasha said:

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

1Sasha said:

I ordered my copy when it was first announced. I think she has a right to tell her story. And if she makes some money from the book, or from the subsequent public attention, that is fine with me. When the girlfriends and protegees start to need money, they will be doing their things - Mayte was at least his wife and his child's mother, and she wasn't treated that well by him IMO, from all of the reports. Let her go.

I can definitely agree with you on the point about the girlfriends and protegés doing something similar when they run out of money or if they see if she had some success with this book. Most of these people might be feeling that they were slighted by him in some way and finally have figured out a way to make some money.They sure as hell weren't doing it when he was alive. Most who are paying tribute to him by doing concerts are not doing it for free so we know its not always about "let's honor Prince'. The glaring difference with her is that she is intentionally provoking a lot of negative thoughts about him by offering up a few tidbits of salacious details that can only be construed as outing him. There's a big difference between that and doing a tribute concert for money. Some of those details can only serve to confirm what a lot of people were saying secretly. "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead".

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

//Many of the other ladies have the following: Jobs, careers, husbands, and lives outside of Prince land. She appears to have been treated like the rest of the sister wives only she did not get as many material things or a career.

Why aren't you starting hate threads about the Revolution and NPG and other musicians using his death for their gainful purposes? Seems hypocritical and proves you have a personal ax to grind in this case. So any of your opinions are total B.S. considering your motivation is personal. Crazier is that you don't even know this woman personally. [Edited 3/19/17 12:20pm]

I don't see any hate in any of her posts. Mayte is not above criticism.

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PennyPurple said:

206Michelle said:

rogifan said:

tish9311 said: Why are people thinking that a book written by someone who was married to Prince in the 90s would give a better understanding of something that happened to him in 2016?

The death of their child happened in the mid 1990s. The death of a child, particularly of an only child, is so profound. People can move on with their lives, but the pain of the loss of a child is always there. Perhaps the pain of Amiir's death was a part of the pain Prince was experiencing in his 50s. For the record, my opinion is that I think he was in a lot of emotional pain as well as physical pain, and emotional pain #1 was the loss of his son. People often use drugs such as painkillers to fill unmet needs or dull pain. It doesn't make them bad, it means that they are sick and need help.

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When you mention Prince's emotional pain, it reminds me of the Oprah interview where he states there is another person inside of him that was created when he was very young to handle being teased, etc. I found this to be incredibly sad and the most profound I ever heard him be in interview. I feel he was in emotional pain his entire life and this contributed to how short his life was.

Purplestar88 said:

purplerabbithole said:

a riot.

Militant said:

Hey all!

This is the official thread regarding discussing Mayte's book.

Some of you have asked why older threads were removed.

The reason is that we were asked by Mayte's publishers to not have discussions regarding the leaked manuscript as this was not representative of the final book. We were attempting to get a statement from them.

However, as of today - promotional copies have been sent to the media and reviewers, and the marketing campaign by the publishing company has begun, so we can begin discussion officially without risking upsetting anyone.

Please keep discussion civil - flaming will not be tolerated.

As the book will inevitably discuss drug references, Ben and the entire staff team have decided that we are sunsetting the "no drugs" rule that we originally intended to follow until April 21st. As long as this conversation is dealt with in a civil manner. Basically, if we can all agree to be adults here, then everything will be OK. We mods have a difficult enough job and we don't need things descending into anarchy.

P.S - The reason this thread is not in Associated Artists is because the book is directly about her life with Prince, and even if we put the thread over there we'd end up with a million new topics about it here.

Say what ???????

sonshine said:

Purplestar88 said:

I don't see any hate in her any of her posts. Mayte is not above criticism.

This is why the org has hit an all time low with this thread and the comments here. You all be trippin'! Carry on.

Where do you see hate? Just because she is critical of Mayte's statements means she hates her?Mayte seems critical of Prince. Does that mean she hates Prince. The org is at a all time low but you are posting here.

sonshine said:

muleFunk said:

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

Can some of you please stop with the "PRINCE WAS NO SAINT" comments whenever you are trying to defend the existance of this book. DUH, everyone knows he is flawed. Its a straw man fallacy. Its implying that those who are angry about the book are doing so because they are believing/promoting the idea that Prince was a saint. they aren't.

Secondly, I don't need to hear again about how he forced people to do shit. Only in some ways was he able to do that...litigation. And that is later when people wanted to sell his shit and write books about him. People did what he wanted because of his fame, his money, his connections, and hopefully-at-least partly because they liked the fucker. If anyone forced mayte to do anything it was her parents. If she ever wanted out of Prince's circle, she could have done it if her parents helped her do so. But if they were pinning their hopes on Mayte, then it would have been impossible for her to do so. Remember Mayte's mom was in the Oprah Show as well. She wasn't fighting what prince was doing. So either Mayte didn't mind doing what she was doing most of the time or she was pressured not just by Prince but ultimately by her parents (either directly or indirectly by their support of the situation). Your parents are always your parents (especially when you are young) but boyfriend/husband (in this age in particular) are often not forever. Remember Prince dumped her, freed her. She and her family would have stayed in his circle as long as they left the door open.

Thirdly, people are able to carry more than one thought in their head at the same time. In other words, Mayte might have justified the creation of this book in her head for many reasons--the need for money, the need to feel empowered because she can say her kids name, anger at the JW's, love for Prince, anger at Prince, as a way to defend his legacy by getting the negative stuff out of the way (becasue someone is going to write that stuff anyow) but doing so with compassion and an attempt at understanding. Prince himself could have several conflicting motives for what he did or said...maybe it wasn't just his ego, his insecurity, and his libido for everything. THe psyche is a complicated varied thing. Stop over-simplifying people.

Fourthly, stop assuming that every woman that Prince mentored or influenced was a bimbo or made of clay. Janelle is not a bimbo. That is too many women to insult. He mentored and told his male musicians how to dress. Are they brainless bimbos with no specific traits of their own that Prince recognized. Like I said earlier, these women were as much his muses and they were his creations. He saw things in them (and it was not just their ability to give in to him). People are too damn cynical about their relationships. Yes, he was manipulative prick sometimes and he did use his talent, fame and money to wield some control, but people don't mind being told what to do if the person doing it also makes them feel appreciated, special, and talented. I believe he loved every woman he helped. Its just that P's brand of love was conditional and spread too thin (and his insecurities often fucked up any potential for longevity) . Love can be flawed like that. (Even Mayte's mom might have several motives for her actions..ambition, money, guilt, forgiveness).

Fifthly, alot of P's behavior is typical rockstar behavior but in a milder form. Mayte being a 16year old he was attracted to but whom he didn't lay a hand on until she was 19...this is tame compared to the behavior of rock stars like Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger, wyman, R. Kelly, Ted Nugent, and even David Bowie who all would be labeled child molesters if people wanted to dig into it (14 year old groupies.) Maybe Mayte doesn't see how people could over react to her age because she lived and worked in that world where underaged groupies were at least somewhat common place. Remember she dated two rock stars--PRince and Tommy Lee.

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Thank you. Finally the voice of reason. People on this board have no idea what really goes on in the rock world. Read Hammer of the Gods about Led Zepplin. At least Prince waited for these women to be if age and none of the so called protegges complained while they were making money and being famous. Do you think other record company executives and producers are any different. Did any of you see Michell's story on Life. Dr. Dre was a monster compared to Prince. He married this women met some else divorced her and moved on it happens everyday. She is not a widow and is not going to get one penny out the estate. Telling the world there was a will just shows you how jacked up she is. Did she go to the court about this will or does she way you to pay the 29.00 bucks to find out in the book. No concern for his health at all just the dollars.

It's the truth.

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1Sasha said:

I ordered my copy when it was first announced. I think she has a right to tell her story. And if she makes some money from the book, or from the subsequent public attention, that is fine with me. When the girlfriends and protegees start to need money, they will be doing their things - Mayte was at least his wife and his child's mother, and she wasn't treated that well by him IMO, from all of the reports. Let her go.

That's when I ordered mine as well and ditto on the rest. Looking forward to reading it

Well I will agree that when PRINCE died I tried my best to never comment on this forum because everything seemed to be based in selfishness in the posts i would read. Whether people were complaining about a WILL (like if there were was or IS life will be different) or talk about who is releasing what, who runs the show, why is TYKA doing it, why was she eating a snack at his memorial service, why are the Revolution touring, Jill is taking shots at this one and that one etc.... I really just sat back and listened to all the contradictions people were in. I dont care about a WILL my life will still be the same if he leaves money to Larry or Shelia or not. The Vault, well its not like he was really gonna give you much from it, he never did and most likely he planned on never doing that at all, now in death you might see more than you would have. People gave Susannah shit about selling shirts and mugs, but then in the same breath got upset when YOUTUBE got hit with orders to take things down from time to time. You cant have both people.

Now we are at "a book". Personally as I have said, you are all making shit out of nothing. You all have minds of your own, believe her side or not, care or not, like her or hate her. Truth be told once someone has passed it really becomes a free game, and that is just that. We can say "out of respect you should not talk" but the reality is deal with it, or turn the page or dont read it, or just say who cares. News to the ORG this whole book is taking a part of his life when the general public gave two shits about him and you all know that. The general public didnt even know he was married, and then married again, or there was a child.

I can bet that down there will be more books and ask yourself how will you feel? If say in 2 years Kirk Johnson writes one and tells that the last year Prince was in so much pain that Kirk scored pain medication for him because he was a trainer and had access but then got addicted and Prince paid to keep him quiet? Would you be OK if this came out?

lastdecember said:

lastdecember said:

Well I will agree that when PRINCE died I tried my best to never comment on this forum because everything seemed to be based in selfishness in the posts i would read. Whether people were complaining about a WILL (like if there were was or IS life will be different) or talk about who is releasing what, who runs the show, why is TYKA doing it, why was she eating a snack at his memorial service, why are the Revolution touring, Jill is taking shots at this one and that one etc.... I really just sat back and listened to all the contradictions people were in. I dont care about a WILL my life will still be the same if he leaves money to Larry or Shelia or not. The Vault, well its not like he was really gonna give you much from it, he never did and most likely he planned on never doing that at all, now in death you might see more than you would have. People gave Susannah shit about selling shirts and mugs, but then in the same breath got upset when YOUTUBE got hit with orders to take things down from time to time. You cant have both people.

Now we are at "a book". Personally as I have said, you are all making shit out of nothing. You all have minds of your own, believe her side or not, care or not, like her or hate her. Truth be told once someone has passed it really becomes a free game, and that is just that. We can say "out of respect you should not talk" but the reality is deal with it, or turn the page or dont read it, or just say who cares. News to the ORG this whole book is taking a part of his life when the general public gave two shits about him and you all know that. The general public didnt even know he was married, and then married again, or there was a child.

I can bet that down there will be more books and ask yourself how will you feel? If say in 2 years Kirk Johnson writes one and tells that the last year Prince was in so much pain that Kirk scored pain medication for him because he was a trainer and had access but then got addicted and Prince paid to keep him quiet? Would you be OK if this came out?

I damn sure as hell wouldnt be ok with Kirk coming out with a book two years form now stating that he scored meds for Prince. I bet he would be in prison right after that book dropped ! All this hard work and investigation to get to the truth and you write a book about it two years after, stating what happened? To the gallows!

Excellent point..

CatB said:

joytotheworld said:

I have no idea why she allowed it nor do I care. It is history.

This.

In hindsight, it is always easy to judge a situation and speculate on people's motives. But that's not how a story unfolds. Nobody knew what was gonna happen, life's a development. Not even Prince knew what would happen. These were two people who enjoyed each other's company and went from there, each sure having their own dreams and versions in mind. It's co-creating, people drift towards each other for a reason. She was not the only young girl he attracted. People needing to judge always tells more about their own filters and stories.

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

//Many of the other ladies have the following: Jobs, careers, husbands, and lives outside of Prince land. She appears to have been treated like the rest of the sister wives only she did not get as many material things or a career.

Why aren't you starting hate threads about the Revolution and NPG and other musicians using his death for their gainful purposes? Seems hypocritical and proves you have a personal ax to grind in this case. So any of your opinions are total B.S. considering your motivation is personal. Crazier is that you don't even know this woman personally. [Edited 3/19/17 12:20pm]

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Because THEY are not dragging his name through the mud as we near the one year anniversary of his death in order to make some bank.

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For all the "love" she has for him, where are her statements against how these disgusting headlines are being used?

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None of us need to know her personally to take issue with what SHE is PUBLICLY offering up.

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I used to feel some degree of sympathy for her, but no more.

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joytotheworld said:

1Sasha said:

I ordered my copy when it was first announced. I think she has a right to tell her story. And if she makes some money from the book, or from the subsequent public attention, that is fine with me. When the girlfriends and protegees start to need money, they will be doing their things - Mayte was at least his wife and his child's mother, and she wasn't treated that well by him IMO, from all of the reports. Let her go.

That's when I ordered mine as well and ditto on the rest. Looking forward to reading it

The book has 300 pages and so yeah I am going to definately have a good reading one sitting.

awake4now said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: Why aren't you starting hate threads about the Revolution and NPG and other musicians using his death for their gainful purposes? Seems hypocritical and proves you have a personal ax to grind in this case. So any of your opinions are total B.S. considering your motivation is personal. Crazier is that you don't even know this woman personally. [Edited 3/19/17 12:20pm]

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Because THEY are not dragging his name through the mud as we near the one year anniversary of his death in order to make some bank.

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For all the "love" she has for him, where are her statements against how these disgusting headlines are being used?

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None of us need to know her personally to take issue with what SHE is PUBLICLY offering up.

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I used to feel some degree of sympathy for her, but no more.

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ladygirl99 said:

joytotheworld said:

That's when I ordered mine as well and ditto on the rest. Looking forward to reading it

The book has 300 pages and so yeah I am going to definately have a good reading one sitting.

Looks like it will also have some never seen before photos also. I wish she were doing a booksigning in my area, would love to get mine signed.

Its not her book that's bugging me so much...Since I haven't read it and the London TImes description doesn't sound too bad. its the way she promoted the book and ignored the way its been cherry picked for salicious details. That I am pretty pissed about; that behavior might reveal the greedy side of her nature. However, parts of the book I read are compassionate so maybe there is a part of this woman that wants to humanize and do right by Prince since she knows others will be writing about him soon with more venom.

I don't know what to think entirely...

She posted that it wasn't a tell-all months ago on facebook but then let's People magazine promote it as such. And people saying that she has no power over the headlines on People magazine are ignoring the fact that her facebook is promoting the magazine itself, not clarifying the simplistic claims on it cover, and lamenting the fact that the New York snowstorm prohibited the shipment of People magazine to new york stores. She definitely wants to sell the fuck out of this book--the question is "What are all of her intentions besides money?"

awake4now said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: Why aren't you starting hate threads about the Revolution and NPG and other musicians using his death for their gainful purposes? Seems hypocritical and proves you have a personal ax to grind in this case. So any of your opinions are total B.S. considering your motivation is personal. Crazier is that you don't even know this woman personally. [Edited 3/19/17 12:20pm]

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Because THEY are not dragging his name through the mud as we near the one year anniversary of his death in order to make some bank.

.

For all the "love" she has for him, where are her statements against how these disgusting headlines are being used?

.

None of us need to know her personally to take issue with what SHE is PUBLICLY offering up.

.

I used to feel some degree of sympathy for her, but no more.

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purplerabbithole said:

Excellent point..

CatB said:

This.

In hindsight, it is always easy to judge a situation and speculate on people's motives. But that's not how a story unfolds. Nobody knew what was gonna happen, life's a development. Not even Prince knew what would happen. These were two people who enjoyed each other's company and went from there, each sure having their own dreams and versions in mind. It's co-creating, people drift towards each other for a reason. She was not the only young girl he attracted. People needing to judge always tells more about their own filters and stories.

Yes , yes, of course. Somebody other than this 16 year old girl who hadn't even finish high school was orchestrating everything. How did he get the tape? How did he become her legal guardian? You think her "momager" wasnt involved in the deal? As she stated in her own words: "Not a virgin, patience pays off".