Purplestar88 said:

ladygirl99 said:

I dont know how long you have been on the org but I have been here since 1998 when it was purple and black and when Prince was his final years with Mayte. anyway some diehard fans gotten mad when you made any indication that Prince didn't become successful by himself. Whether writing love or songs about Mayte, or include her on his stage, or have her same backup for songs like Pope, or did an album entirely about her, or directed music videos, he had helped.

And Google is your friend to find interviews of Prince (and the ones who knew him) who sometimes believe his success is mainly of him and his associates said the same he had a hard time of seeking help and wanted to control everything.

He had help but he also allowed people to be in his world. He allowed her to apart of so many things because he believe in her talent and beauty. He choose her, he did not have to let Mayte "help" him with anything. Their are many people in the industy that could have "help" him with his creations but he choose Mayte to apart of it comming to light. And just because someone said he was self made or a one man band did not mean, they are saying on one ever help him. I don't need google. I know what his associates have said.

Okay so we are finally on the same page!

2freaky4church1 said:

The JW's blamed her for the babies death? Was it God's plan? That is sick. Hope Larry didn't have something to do with this.

Where did you hear that? I think you're mistaking Larry for Pat Robertson on the 700 club.

purplerabbithole said:

awake4now said:

ladygirl99 said:

I stand by what I said. Prince wasn't a one-man island no matter what the image he presented to the fans. He had helped with his success.

And Mayte helped birth his child even though the outcome was horrible. He wrote songs about her. She dance to his videos and onstage. I don't agree with the way her parents introduced him at a young age. Just because she wasn't a musician that doesn't mean her time with Prince was useless. Once again P's associates and exs stories should be heard too and are going to be told whether fans like it or not. Its their history/herstory too.

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And I stand by my statement that none of the "stories" would or will be published in a commercially released book deal without it being about him.

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This man worked his ass of his entire life, earned everything he had from that work ethic, innovated popular music, and fought a ruthless industry largely on his own. Like it or not, everyone else in the PP scene was along for the ride, unless they moved on to their own non-Prince hustle.

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Many have already shared their stories. It doesn't have to be done for big $$ via book or film deals. People who pursue deals like this are riding on his hard work and his recent death for financial gain. Apparently the author and/or publisher releasing salacious, second-hand details to tabloids to generate interest is ok too. It's called a cash grab.

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Perfectly stated, Awake4now.

sonshine said:

Something else for the haters to consider: If you really care about prince and his memory or whatever you want people to believe you would be grateful that he experienced the unwavering love of another in his life. Your beating up on Mayte says more about your misguided loyalty than it does about her or anything she has done. She has appeared respectful at any events she has attended in his honor. She has not divulged any deep, dark secrets or bad-mouthed him. She has only told the truth and that's on you if you can't handle it. She has spoken gently of him him even the not so nice parts. It's clear that she loved him deeply and remained a faithful, supportive partner through it all just as she vowed the day they wed. HE gave up on them. HE quit. You should worry more about why he could so easily throw love away rather than be critical of her. I appreciate that she loved him, warts and all. She didn't give up on him. She never stopped trying to make a happy life with him until that was no longer an option. How can you find fault with such a person?

BillieBalloon said:

80tomato said:

actually I am curious about the possibility of dwarfism in the child...I wonder if Prince thought about the times Madonna and Boy George referred to him disrespectively as a "dwarf" beacause of his small stature

They only got the dwarfism diagnosis because the babys measurements were off. After he was born the reality was not dwarfism but something else. I doubt Prince gave a second thought to ole girl and Boy George.

But I wonder if he thought there was a possibility he himself had a mild form of dwarfism when he heard of that potential diagnosis..i

Mumio said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

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Hey Yoda! Question for you: what happened to your signature line? Since it is gone does that mean you aren't family anymore????

We just noticed it was gone. It looks like "a moderator has disabled our signature editing capabilities!" Typical mods exercising their mod power. Taking away our signature line doesn't mean we're not Family anymore!

awake4now said:

ladygirl99 said:

I stand by what I said. Prince wasn't a one-man island no matter what the image he presented to the fans. He had helped with his success.

And Mayte helped birth his child even though the outcome was horrible. He wrote songs about her. She dance to his videos and onstage. I don't agree with the way her parents introduced him at a young age. Just because she wasn't a musician that doesn't mean her time with Prince was useless. Once again P's associates and exs stories should be heard too and are going to be told whether fans like it or not. Its their history/herstory too.

.

And I stand by my statement that none of the "stories" would or will be published in a commercially released book deal without it being about him.

.

This man worked his ass of his entire life, earned everything he had from that work ethic, innovated popular music, and fought a ruthless industry largely on his own. Like it or not, everyone else in the PP scene was along for the ride, unless they moved on to their own non-Prince hustle.

.

Many have already shared their stories. It doesn't have to be done for big $$ via book or film deals. People who pursue deals like this are riding on his hard work and his recent death for financial gain. Apparently the author and/or publisher releasing salacious, second-hand details to tabloids to generate interest is ok too. It's called a cash grab.

.

I understand that Prince loved music and therefore was passion and worked hard at it but that wouldnt do any good if he doesn't have the industry connections to get his first album and money to tour with. But once again, no matter how you spin this, Prince didn't became successful by himself. If it weren't for Chris Moon let him used his studio to record his first album for free and no strings attached (it cost fucking money to produce an album in those days and Prince was too poor to afford studio time) and Owen Husney hustled and begged Warner Bros to sign Prince and give him control over his music, then this site wouldn't exist. The industry can be corrupt but that is the same industry made Prince a star.

I can name more examples but the knowledge is out there. And apparently no matter how much people have issues about Mayte, he was influenced by her enough to have her around through his work and no amount of hate is going to take away that and she was important enough for her to be a mother to his child and to marry her.

What make you sure that the associates who already told their stories didn't ask for a fee exchange to talk to the media or to share exclusive pictures. People tell their stories about celebrities all the time through tabloids and mainstream news for money. But the difference is they did it on the low and Mayte's book deal is more publicized. Don't forget the upcoming concerts by bandmembers who are 'cashing in' as well so why no outrage?

PurpleMedley122 said:

laurarichardson said:

He keep it classy.

So classy that he bulldozed the house Mani received in their divorce settlement and refused to give her belongings in that leaked email correspondence when the divorce documents were released. So classy that he and Mani were caught fooling around in movie theaters while he was married to Mayte. Many, many examples... [Edited 3/15/17 19:49pm]

Was the fooling around in movie theaters something that came to light in the Mani-Prince divorce papers? I wonder if Mayte will touch on possible infidelity in the book.

paradise000 said:

Ms.Jill Jones' Instagram message 💜💜

Is that a shade at Mayte because of the book or at people who trashing Mayte's book? or some other inner meaning?

I haven't follow Jill lately but she one associate I would buy a book from.

206Michelle said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

laurarichardson said: So classy that he bulldozed the house Mani received in their divorce settlement and refused to give her belongings in that leaked email correspondence when the divorce documents were released. So classy that he and Mani were caught fooling around in movie theaters while he was married to Mayte. Many, many examples... [Edited 3/15/17 19:49pm]

Was the fooling around in movie theaters something that came to light in the Mani-Prince divorce papers? I wonder if Mayte will touch on possible infidelity in the book.

Prince did not demolish the house that M2 received in the divorce settlement.

He owned that house before marrying her and it was "pre-marital" and she did not

hold a marital interest in the house.

ladygirl99 said:

awake4now said:

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And I stand by my statement that none of the "stories" would or will be published in a commercially released book deal without it being about him.

.

This man worked his ass of his entire life, earned everything he had from that work ethic, innovated popular music, and fought a ruthless industry largely on his own. Like it or not, everyone else in the PP scene was along for the ride, unless they moved on to their own non-Prince hustle.

.

Many have already shared their stories. It doesn't have to be done for big $$ via book or film deals. People who pursue deals like this are riding on his hard work and his recent death for financial gain. Apparently the author and/or publisher releasing salacious, second-hand details to tabloids to generate interest is ok too. It's called a cash grab.

.

I understand that Prince loved music and therefore was passion and worked hard at it but that wouldnt do any good if he doesn't have the industry connections to get his first album and money to tour with. But once again, no matter how you spin this, Prince didn't became successful by himself. If it weren't for Chris Moon let him used his studio to record his first album for free and no strings attached (it cost fucking money to produce an album in those days and Prince was too poor to afford studio time) and Owen Husney hustled and begged Warner Bros to sign Prince and give him control over his music, then this site wouldn't exist. The industry can be corrupt but that is the same industry made Prince a star.

I can name more examples but the knowledge is out there. And apparently no matter how much people have issues about Mayte, he was influenced by her enough to have her around through his work and no amount of hate is going to take away that and she was important enough for her to be a mother to his child and to marry her.

What make you sure that the associates who already told their stories didn't ask for a fee exchange to talk to the media or to share exclusive pictures. People tell their stories about celebrities all the time through tabloids and mainstream news for money. But the difference is they did it on the low and Mayte's book deal is more publicized.

Don't forget the upcoming concerts by bandmembers who are 'cashing in' as well so why no outrage?

206Michelle said:

sonshine said:

Something else for the haters to consider: If you really care about prince and his memory or whatever you want people to believe you would be grateful that he experienced the unwavering love of another in his life. Your beating up on Mayte says more about your misguided loyalty than it does about her or anything she has done. She has appeared respectful at any events she has attended in his honor. She has not divulged any deep, dark secrets or bad-mouthed him. She has only told the truth and that's on you if you can't handle it. She has spoken gently of him him even the not so nice parts. It's clear that she loved him deeply and remained a faithful, supportive partner through it all just as she vowed the day they wed. HE gave up on them. HE quit. You should worry more about why he could so easily throw love away rather than be critical of her. I appreciate that she loved him, warts and all. She didn't give up on him. She never stopped trying to make a happy life with him until that was no longer an option. How can you find fault with such a person?

This. It seems no matter what is said, people will continue to find fault and you know the saying if one can claim it in someone else...the claimer has it too. The article in the London Times was touching and she portrayed their emotional pain quite well.

benni said:

Hopefully, by writing about her experience, she will bring more attention to Pfeiffer Syndrome which will go a long way towards getting funding for research. I can tell you from experience that living with a condition that has little to no research, education, talking about it, and bringing attention to the condition goes a long ways towards research facilities getting grants for vital research and education to the general public.

I also hope that her book brings more attention 2 Pfeiffer Syndrome and other rare conditions like it. I am a special education teacher and I teach children who have autism. I have also taught children who have intellectual disability (formerly known as mental retardation).

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People need 2 understand what it is like 4 parents of children with severe disabilities so that these parents can receive the support and resources that they need 2 care 4 their children and 2 cope with the loss if their children die due 2 complications related 2 the disability.

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It is important 2 talk about the impact of disabilities because this also helps create more acceptance and helps 2 create a society that is more welcoming of people who have disabilities. Perhaps the details that Mayte shares about she and Prince's son could be helpful or comforting 4 other parents of children who have severe disabilities. If anything, the details that she shares may create more awareness of what families endure in caring 4 a child who has a severe disability. I hope that the details she shares about Amiir further humanize him and help people 2 have more empathy for families that have children who have severe disabilities.

benni said:

BillieBalloon said:

GimmeThat said: What if the other party didnt want their story sold and valued his privacy alo ng with that of his dead son? Children have a right to privacy also and its not necessary to describe a childs physical appearance and share it with the world in a way that will inevitably cause morbid curiosity. Many many celebrities keep their children out of the public eye.

But Ahmir cannot be in the public eye (or out of it). He is no longer with us either. The only part of Ahmir that remains is his mother. The only person that can celebrate this too short life of Prince's son, share him with the world, and say, "He did exist. He did have life," is Mayte. And losing a baby that young, you do want to scream at the world, "My baby was alive, existed, was a part of me and his father." Because for too many people that are not a part of that pregnancy, the birth, it's too easy to dismiss. And Mayte has had to do that for way too many years.

benni, you expressed your sentiments beautifully, and I feel the exact same way.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

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disch said:

The thing is, he's not around to tell us why he made the decisions he did. So for those who want to understand more about how he ticked (and not everyone is interested in these aspects of his life), we are going to have to rely, at this point, on the perspectives of who were around him. And that includes Mayte. It's possible that her book may give that kind of insight. (But I'll know more after I read it.)

purplerabbithole said:

NOt one person on here has said he was a perfect person. But everything about Prince is so one-sided. No one ever asked why he makes the decisions he does. They just dismiss him as a prick. They may be wrong decisions that hurt others but since we don't know or even want to figure out why he did these things, we don't know if his intentions were actually cruel.

Am I the only one who thinks that people are much more confortable thinking of Prince as a seductive evil genius than as a vulnerable man who in his personal life was sometimes clueless about how to handle stuff and was enabled and used by others.

[Edited 3/15/17 20:19pm]

disch, to your comment.

206Michelle said:

benni said:

But Ahmir cannot be in the public eye (or out of it). He is no longer with us either. The only part of Ahmir that remains is his mother. The only person that can celebrate this too short life of Prince's son, share him with the world, and say, "He did exist. He did have life," is Mayte. And losing a baby that young, you do want to scream at the world, "My baby was alive, existed, was a part of me and his father." Because for too many people that are not a part of that pregnancy, the birth, it's too easy to dismiss. And Mayte has had to do that for way too many years.

benni, you expressed your sentiments beautifully, and I feel the exact same way.

Agreed. Mayte said to the LT reporter that Ahmir would have been 21 and that is a long time to be silent.. They loved Ahmir regardless of his condition.

Menes said:

ladygirl99 said:

I understand that Prince loved music and therefore was passion and worked hard at it but that wouldnt do any good if he doesn't have the industry connections to get his first album and money to tour with. But once again, no matter how you spin this, Prince didn't became successful by himself. If it weren't for Chris Moon let him used his studio to record his first album for free and no strings attached (it cost fucking money to produce an album in those days and Prince was too poor to afford studio time) and Owen Husney hustled and begged Warner Bros to sign Prince and give him control over his music, then this site wouldn't exist. The industry can be corrupt but that is the same industry made Prince a star.

I can name more examples but the knowledge is out there. And apparently no matter how much people have issues about Mayte, he was influenced by her enough to have her around through his work and no amount of hate is going to take away that and she was important enough for her to be a mother to his child and to marry her.

What make you sure that the associates who already told their stories didn't ask for a fee exchange to talk to the media or to share exclusive pictures. People tell their stories about celebrities all the time through tabloids and mainstream news for money. But the difference is they did it on the low and Mayte's book deal is more publicized.

Don't forget the upcoming concerts by bandmembers who are 'cashing in' as well so why no outrage?

There is no outrage because those are tributes by all acounts. Tributes are intended to show respect or admiration. I don't always agree with the tributes ( Madonna @ billboard) and I dont think monies should be exchanged. What about this upcoming book do you think would be interpreted as a tribute to Prince?

But some of those bandmembers criticized Prince over the last few years especially when he was alive are doing some of the upcoming concerts and I bet some of the same fans who are mad at Mayte might purchased a ticket to see those bandmembers. If a person doesn't like Mayte that is fine but it is very hypoctical to saying she is cashing in or milking but yet don't say crap about everyone else doing the same. It is like it is okay for others to make money off of Prince but not her because she was the wife and Prince's baby mother, they weren't. She may not be a musican but she influenced him during her time with him and went far than some other women around. And also she got criticism for doing those bellydance classes, so once again the hate on Mayte is beyond the book deal.

Yes I believe so. When it comes to reading a book about Prince or any public figure, I want to read about his human side not the manufactured side of him. That is the psychologist in me (even though I am not a license one). In other words, sometimes the truth is not always painless. Some fans want a feel good love story and fake fantasy about Prince, I want the truth as possible because it made him human. Even with the book, I am sure Mayte is going to keep other intimacy things to herself.

As I mentioned before, I am not a huge Mayte stan as I have this let live and live toward her but I am confused about this outrage while other people who said worse about Prince are giving passes and cashing in too in their way. There are some hidden motives going on.

Menes said:

joytotheworld said:

Maybe his having a will was mentioned to his family and they have no obligation to broadcast that. She has been at the memorials and tributes so more than likely it was mentioned. Duh.

Yes yes, I bet it was a rather profound exchange of information between Mayte and the family during the services. I could hear it now:

Tyka: (whispering during the service)"You know my brother burnt up your shit and sprayed the babies ashes under Larry's front porch, right?"

Mayte:"Oh thats ok , at least them pills I was giving him caught up to him finally. Oh, and you will never find that will".

Tyka: " What bitch?"

(While Larry sings "rock of ages and passes around a collection plate for the "urn")...

Mayte:" Read the book, I dont want to disrespect my ex-husband like that".

This cracks me up, almost blew Pepsi out my nose.

Mumio said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

More like:

Hey Yoda! Question for you: what happened to your signature line? Since it is gone does that mean you aren't family anymore????

Wish they would clear up the question about the ashes.

206Michelle said:

benni said:

Hopefully, by writing about her experience, she will bring more attention to Pfeiffer Syndrome which will go a long way towards getting funding for research. I can tell you from experience that living with a condition that has little to no research, education, talking about it, and bringing attention to the condition goes a long ways towards research facilities getting grants for vital research and education to the general public.

I also hope that her book brings more attention 2 Pfeiffer Syndrome and other rare conditions like it. I am a special education teacher and I teach children who have autism. I have also taught children who have intellectual disability (formerly known as mental retardation).

--

People need 2 understand what it is like 4 parents of children with severe disabilities so that these parents can receive the support and resources that they need 2 care 4 their children and 2 cope with the loss if their children die due 2 complications related 2 the disability.

--

It is important 2 talk about the impact of disabilities because this also helps create more acceptance and helps 2 create a society that is more welcoming of people who have disabilities. Perhaps the details that Mayte shares about she and Prince's son could be helpful or comforting 4 other parents of children who have severe disabilities. If anything, the details that she shares may create more awareness of what families endure in caring 4 a child who has a severe disability. I hope that the details she shares about Amiir further humanize him and help people 2 have more empathy for families that have children who have severe disabilities.

I hope so too. What is cool is that from the Mayte book excerpt I read, Prince and Mayte thought it was no big deal when their doctor warned their baby likely going to have a condition. I am still sad that this baby died and I believed, Prince and Mayte would had been loving parents and made sure the child will be look after. I can tell just by the way they were willing to be ready to accept the way the baby was going to be.

I was friends with special ed kids and they are very loyal friends to have and also have strong work ethic. People are missing out being friends with disablity people out of ignorance and their ableism.

[Edited 3/18/17 15:34pm]

ladygirl99 said:

Did this thread broke or made a record on the org? Nearly 1000 posts and over 40,000 views in three days.

Go Mayte its your birthday, good, bad, or ugly, she got folks talking about her.

ladygirl99 said:

awake4now said:

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And I stand by my statement that none of the "stories" would or will be published in a commercially released book deal without it being about him.

.

This man worked his ass of his entire life, earned everything he had from that work ethic, innovated popular music, and fought a ruthless industry largely on his own. Like it or not, everyone else in the PP scene was along for the ride, unless they moved on to their own non-Prince hustle.

.

Many have already shared their stories. It doesn't have to be done for big $$ via book or film deals. People who pursue deals like this are riding on his hard work and his recent death for financial gain. Apparently the author and/or publisher releasing salacious, second-hand details to tabloids to generate interest is ok too. It's called a cash grab.

.

I understand that Prince loved music and therefore was passion and worked hard at it but that wouldnt do any good if he doesn't have the industry connections to get his first album and money to tour with. But once again, no matter how you spin this, Prince didn't became successful by himself. If it weren't for Chris Moon let him used his studio to record his first album for free and no strings attached (it cost fucking money to produce an album in those days and Prince was too poor to afford studio time) and Owen Husney hustled and begged Warner Bros to sign Prince and give him control over his music, then this site wouldn't exist. The industry can be corrupt but that is the same industry made Prince a star.

I can name more examples but the knowledge is out there. And apparently no matter how much people have issues about Mayte, he was influenced by her enough to have her around through his work and no amount of hate is going to take away that and she was important enough for her to be a mother to his child and to marry her.

What make you sure that the associates who already told their stories didn't ask for a fee exchange to talk to the media or to share exclusive pictures. People tell their stories about celebrities all the time through tabloids and mainstream news for money. But the difference is they did it on the low and Mayte's book deal is more publicized. Don't forget the upcoming concerts by bandmembers who are 'cashing in' as well so why no outrage?

I agree, That's what I said several pages back, about the others cashing in, and where was the outrage. Heck Brown Mark even invited Eric Benet to come on stage with them.....???? Sheila E is cashing in also, but she's the golden goddess here on the forum.

PennyPurple said:

ladygirl99 said:

I understand that Prince loved music and therefore was passion and worked hard at it but that wouldnt do any good if he doesn't have the industry connections to get his first album and money to tour with. But once again, no matter how you spin this, Prince didn't became successful by himself. If it weren't for Chris Moon let him used his studio to record his first album for free and no strings attached (it cost fucking money to produce an album in those days and Prince was too poor to afford studio time) and Owen Husney hustled and begged Warner Bros to sign Prince and give him control over his music, then this site wouldn't exist. The industry can be corrupt but that is the same industry made Prince a star.

I can name more examples but the knowledge is out there. And apparently no matter how much people have issues about Mayte, he was influenced by her enough to have her around through his work and no amount of hate is going to take away that and she was important enough for her to be a mother to his child and to marry her.

What make you sure that the associates who already told their stories didn't ask for a fee exchange to talk to the media or to share exclusive pictures. People tell their stories about celebrities all the time through tabloids and mainstream news for money. But the difference is they did it on the low and Mayte's book deal is more publicized. Don't forget the upcoming concerts by bandmembers who are 'cashing in' as well so why no outrage?

I agree, That's what I said several pages back, about the others cashing in, and where was the outrage. Heck Brown Mark even invited Eric Benet to come on stage with them.....???? Sheila E is cashing in also, but she's the golden goddess here on the forum.

Yeah the outrage is crazy. It is like to some others, Mayte should just shut up about Prince and sit in the corner but it is okay for others to cash in and expressed their love about Prince.

206Michelle said:

benni said:

Hopefully, by writing about her experience, she will bring more attention to Pfeiffer Syndrome which will go a long way towards getting funding for research. I can tell you from experience that living with a condition that has little to no research, education, talking about it, and bringing attention to the condition goes a long ways towards research facilities getting grants for vital research and education to the general public.

I also hope that her book brings more attention 2 Pfeiffer Syndrome and other rare conditions like it. I am a special education teacher and I teach children who have autism. I have also taught children who have intellectual disability (formerly known as mental retardation).

--

People need 2 understand what it is like 4 parents of children with severe disabilities so that these parents can receive the support and resources that they need 2 care 4 their children and 2 cope with the loss if their children die due 2 complications related 2 the disability.

--

It is important 2 talk about the impact of disabilities because this also helps create more acceptance and helps 2 create a society that is more welcoming of people who have disabilities. Perhaps the details that Mayte shares about she and Prince's son could be helpful or comforting 4 other parents of children who have severe disabilities. If anything, the details that she shares may create more awareness of what families endure in caring 4 a child who has a severe disability. I hope that the details she shares about Amiir further humanize him and help people 2 have more empathy for families that have children who have severe disabilities.

I for one clearly believe in patterns. She had a pile of money when she sold that house he gifted her in Spain. She made a pile of money in hollywood pursuant to her divorce. Do you recall or have ever heard of any interaction between her and any foundation related to anything remotely close to the syndrome?

It's been roughly 20 years and the details that she will share in the book already have been shared by her a thousand times. You think for the 1,001 time the facts will change as to why people don't really pay attention to this rare disease? I bet you the ORG. has more information about Pfeiffer Syndrome than Mayte cares to read about. There is nothing new that she could possibly add about the death of the baby that would cause the world to have a surge in interest in Pfeiffer syndrome. Funding and grants for research into rare diseases are not looked into because of some neurotic emotional read in a book .Her best bet is to approach philanthropists and cross her fingers. The line is long . I would rather count to one billion than to count on her to be doing any of this for the baby or for Prince. You could smell the contempt in her actions from here to Egypt with a lot of the things that she was doing. She of all people knew him well and had to have known that certainn things would absolutely cause him to have an adverse reaction. The book is no different.

We can ascertain from the pattern of behavior that there is a caviat to her sharing that tragedy in conjunction with the "love story" bullshit connection her and her publicist concocted for months. Profit. I wish we could find out when she started negotiating with the publicist. Was it before or after his death?