Okay agreed. But let's say the assistant comes forth and says its true. Are you all going to hate Prince and stop listening to his music. Or believe like Mayte that it was the actions were the result of his pain?

I think he may have burnt some of Mayte's stuff in a fire at Larry's. But the urn might have burned up in the house he burned down. He wasn't there for that physically as indicated in the divorce records for Manuela. But he may have been off somewhere else praying.

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said:

about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite or that he didn't honor him in his heart in his own way...(the hospital stories, the Come Back song all prove he loved the child) What he did also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your shelf like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell and disrespectful. Other people would disagree obviously.

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How are we ever going to know if it's true or not? And why publish something that can't be verified? Hearsay shouldn't be in this book. [Edited 3/18/17 7:05am]

AnnaSantana said:

Her whole intent is to make money. Her comments about the auction tell you everything you need to know. She is not going to correct People for taking things out of context. She also has talked about him and this marriage before and the stories keep changing. People are digging those interviews up and they are biting her in the ass. I would be very surprised if she does the talk show circuit because any one could rip her to shreads just based on stuff she has said in the past. She never saw him use drugs, she did see the ashes go in the fire ( would make more sense to scatter them who burns ashes), was not aware that he was her guardian. She had no proof or confirmation of anything and obviously she is not a person of faith. Prince was not likely to go along with an abortion and that test she is carrying would not have done anything to change the birth defect. The defect is genetic no one causes it to happen and she is old enough to know this but to spiteful to ask for corrections from the tabs. Oh and it is not normal to sleep in the bed with an urn. Read this article because it breaks down actually what she and the media is doing. https://rayesradar.wordpr...ar-enough/ There is a lot of money and intellectual property involved not one penny will be going in her pocket despite the fact that she is on her IG saying she is his widow WTF. Plenty of people in the industry would love to get their hands on that property damaging his legacy can insure poor sales of music which could cause a fire sale. Sorry I care about that music more than an ex-wife he does not know how to move on.
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purplerabbithole said:

He never burned any house down, he had a house demolished. She says burned, not demolished.

I think she was extremely irresponsible in the way she promoted the book. But I am not sure the book is as bad as the magazine makes it seem. Mayte is weird too and I have to remind myself of that sometimes.

laurarichardson said:

AnnaSantana said:

The media is gonna do what the media does. Don't pay any attention to the hype. Mayte's intentions for writing her story are not malicious in the least.

Are you on something? Her whole intent is to make money. Her comments about the auction tell you everything you need to know. She is not going to correct People for taking things out of context. She also has talked about him and this marriage before and the stories keep changing. People are digging those interviews up and they are biting her in the ass. I would be very surprised if she does the talk show circuit because any one could rip her to shreads just based on stuff she has said in the past. She never saw him use drugs, she did see the ashes go in the fire ( would make more sense to scatter them who burns ashes), was not aware that he was her guardian. She had no proof or confirmation of anything and obviously she is not a person of faith. Prince was not likely to go along with an abortion and that test she is carrying would not have done anything to change the birth defect. The defect is genetic no one causes it to happen and she is old enough to know this but to spiteful to ask for corrections from the tabs. Oh and it is not normal to sleep in the bed with an urn. Read this article because it breaks down actually what she and the media is doing. https://rayesradar.wordpr...ar-enough/

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

BillieBalloon said:

Some weird spiritual thing? Im pretty sure JW dont dishonour their dead by throwing their loved ones remains on a backyard bonfire. Why did she never question him about it? Why did she believe this person who heard it from someone else and just accept it as fact? Who are these people? Why did she not have the ashes with her?

Also, if you are going to have some weird spiritual ceremony, I don't think you tell your assistant to do it. So did he and Larry burn the ashes with the rest of her stuff, or did assistanthe mysterious assistantt burn the ashes, mayte doesn't know so that is why she made the prudent loving decision to included it in her book.

Wasn't Manuela Mayte's assistant in the beginning? I bet money Manuela is the one who "revealed" this information to her. And she would include it in her book if Mani told her that because, she would believe her because they are friends. Somehow.

Demolished, burned down. I think of them in the same way. Hell, he may have burned things and then demolished what was left of the house. He was purging that's for sure.

BillieBalloon said:

purplerabbithole said:

Okay agreed. But let's say the assistant comes forth and says its true. Are you all going to hate Prince and stop listening to his music. Or believe like Mayte that it was the actions were the result of his pain?

I think he may have burnt some of Mayte's stuff in a fire at Larry's. But the urn might have burned up in the house he burned down. He wasn't there for that physically as indicated in the divorce records for Manuela. But he may have been off somewhere else praying.

He never burned any house down, he had a house demolished. She says burned, not demolished.

laurarichardson said:

AnnaSantana said:

The media is gonna do what the media does. Don't pay any attention to the hype. Mayte's intentions for writing her story are not malicious in the least.

Her whole intent is to make money. Her comments about the auction tell you everything you need to know. She is not going to correct People for taking things out of context. She also has talked about him and this marriage before and the stories keep changing. People are digging those interviews up and they are biting her in the ass. I would be very surprised if she does the talk show circuit because any one could rip her to shreads just based on stuff she has said in the past. She never saw him use drugs, she did see the ashes go in the fire ( would make more sense to scatter them who burns ashes), was not aware that he was her guardian. She had no proof or confirmation of anything and obviously she is not a person of faith. Prince was not likely to go along with an abortion and that test she is carrying would not have done anything to change the birth defect. The defect is genetic no one causes it to happen and she is old enough to know this but to spiteful to ask for corrections from the tabs. Oh and it is not normal to sleep in the bed with an urn. Read this article because it breaks down actually what she and the media is doing. https://rayesradar.wordpr...ar-enough/ There is a lot of money and intellectual property involved not one penny will be going in her pocket despite the fact that she is on her IG saying she is his widow WTF. Plenty of people in the industry would love to get their hands on that property damaging his legacy can insure poor sales of music which could cause a fire sale. Sorry I care about that music more than an ex-wife he does not know how to move on. [Edited 3/18/17 7:15am]

Actually the way I took the article was to blame the journalists who wrote those articles for twisting them and Mayte's words.

I don't know--maybe Manuela apologized to Mayte after she realized that the JW stuff was too much and pulled away from Prince. I know Manuela is supposed to be evil here but we don't know her side.

I do find these lyrics from Love interesting in retrospect... I believe they are addressed to Manuela..I used to think the 'friends' and 'enablers' that Manuela didn't like were people like Kurt Johnson. Now, I am starting to think it was LG. Manuela was one of those enablers for a while. Maybe she saw the error of her ways and that's why she and Mayte could relate.

What's the point in giving me ultimatums
Smiling at my friends when you really hate 'em
Trying to convince me that I should to
What's the point?

Read more: Prince - Love Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Superfan1984 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

BillieBalloon said: Also, if you are going to have some weird spiritual ceremony, I don't think you tell your assistant to do it. So did he and Larry burn the ashes with the rest of her stuff, or did assistanthe mysterious assistantt burn the ashes, mayte doesn't know so that is why she made the prudent loving decision to included it in her book.

Wasn't Manuela Mayte's assistant in the beginning? I bet money Manuela is the one who "revealed" this information to her. And she would include it in her book if Mani told her that because, she would believe her because they are friends. Somehow.

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the "ashes thing" is a 100% deal breaker in regards to book credibility. There entire relationship was odd from all angles, and she got a pass from lots of prince people because of her age. Well she is not a kid any more and in my opinion she just made the most immature unloving worst descion of her life by writing a "tell all" know nothing book. I would say she safely ended her relationship with any further prince activities, I think booed off the stage would be probably the least of her problems in a room full of prince people. So in the end you get what you sew, she can now "love" him in private for the rest of her life, cause her welcome sign is gone.

What an odd statement to make. From the UK article.

"Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”."

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Well if we want to use the CASHING IN ON DEATH talk, guess what, everything after his death is "Cashing in" as you call it. What the hell was 4EVER release, right around christmas the only time music sells, it basically was the Hits compliations with a new picture and a VAULT song that was ripped from a bootleg, sound was horrible, levels are tracks are pitiful. The Purple Rain re-issue? what is that? Yes the rumor is HE wanted it out, but that was 3 years ago and it never happened leading us to believe that as HE so often did, he changed his mind about being all into the idea.

The Prince celebration in MINNEAPOLIS? What is that? TO make money. I mean I see flyers put out by Jill Jones about doing a tribute show USING Prince's image, guess what if she did a show like that and he was alive he'd have lawsuits to have the flyers destroyed. PRINCE never would have allowed shows to be played and promotion done with his symbol or image.

This kind of stuff always goes on after an ARTIST passes, people write things, people all of a sudden do tribute shows, record albums, tribute songs, talk to magazines and newspapers etc...

Now for the MAYTE thing with people saying she "contradicts" herself in old interviews to today. WELL lets not use that word "CONTRADICT" on a site for someone who built an enigma not just on mystery and secrets but also contradictions sometimes.

I think they mean with her MS. Remember when people said that Prince swooped in to help when people really needed it, not when they didn't.

. Mayte may not have been as broke when the divorce happened as people think. She had a mansion she could have sold, she had parents who presumably were employed, she did get work in the industry as a choreographer. So he figured she could fend for herself. But Prince seemed to be a soft touch for people when they were sick (Rosie Gaines, Vanity etc) , so maybe that's what she was referring to.

Misslink88 said:

What an odd statement to make. From the UK article.

"Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”."

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purplerabbithole said:

I'm not going to get into hypotheticals. Plus I highly doubt anyone is going to come forward to dispute or affirm the claims she makes in this book.

What if its true? Is that a dealbreaker for your prince fandom?

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

the "ashes thing" is a 100% deal breaker in regards to book credibility. There entire relationship was odd from all angles, and she got a pass from lots of prince people because of her age. Well she is not a kid any more and in my opinion she just made the most immature unloving worst descion of her life by writing a "tell all" know nothing book. I would say she safely ended her relationship with any further prince activities, I think booed off the stage would be probably the least of her problems in a room full of prince people. So in the end you get what you sew, she can now "love" him in private for the rest of her life, cause her welcome sign is gone.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Which is why I'm sad that Shelby J. is promoting this book on her FB page...even if it is just because they're part of the same management agency.

purplerabbithole said:

It's weird to describe this as heartbreaking though. So she's sad he's gone because he won't be here to give her money if she falls on hard times? Seriously?!?

purplerabbithole said:

I think they mean with her MS. Remember when people said that Prince swooped in to help when people really needed it, not when they didn't.

. Mayte may not have been as broke when the divorce happened as people think. She had a mansion she could have sold, she had parents who presumably were employed, she did get work in the industry as a choreographer. So he figured she could fend for herself. But Prince seemed to be a soft touch for people when they were sick (Rosie Gaines, Vanity etc) , so maybe that's what she was referring to.

Misslink88 said:

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That may be true, but he didn't do it out of obligation, he didn't pay for everyone he was ever associated with and "banking" on someone that didn't speak to you in years for financial help is a pretty silly thing to do.

purplerabbithole said:

The problem is she already put it in the book, we should not be discussing weather it is true or not, she should have done that in advance, she should have done that 20 years ago. There are 2 sides to every story so what ever happened, we will only know her side, so you can not make a fair judgement of anything with only one side of the story.

I think she thinks it was written out of love. Actually Dr Funkenberry stated that Shelby is the one that brought him the magazine when he was too sick to go get it himself. He also alluded that he had talked to someone who said it was Mayte's story to tell.. I am assuming that was Shelby as well.

Shelby met Mayte. Maybe Mayte is a persuasive chick in person. Being in the same production company doesn't mean Shelby is obligated to promote her book. Maybe Shelby hasn't' thought this through. Funkenberry even has mixed feelings.

rogifan said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

the "ashes thing" is a 100% deal breaker in regards to book credibility. There entire relationship was odd from all angles, and she got a pass from lots of prince people because of her age. Well she is not a kid any more and in my opinion she just made the most immature unloving worst descion of her life by writing a "tell all" know nothing book. I would say she safely ended her relationship with any further prince activities, I think booed off the stage would be probably the least of her problems in a room full of prince people. So in the end you get what you sew, she can now "love" him in private for the rest of her life, cause her welcome sign is gone.

Which is why I'm sad that Shelby J. is promoting this book on her FB page...even if it is just because they're part of the same management agency.

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said:

about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite or that he didn't honor him in his heart in his own way...(the hospital stories, the Come Back song all prove he loved the child) What he did also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your shelf like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell and disrespectful. Other people would disagree obviously.

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How are we ever going to know if it's true or not? And why publish something that can't be verified? Hearsay shouldn't be in this book. [Edited 3/18/17 7:05am]

Because it was something she was told that had an impact on her. It effected her deeply. Whether it was true or not. I understand how it could effect her, even if she doesn't know the truth of it. How could it not effect her? To her, that is a part of her story, and it is something that had an impact on her, that may have colored the way in which she saw LG and the JW, if a part of her believes they were instrumental in Prince doing that. What everyone seems to be overlooking is that this is Mayte's story, not Prince's. This is her side so of course she is going to include those things that impacted her the greatest from those times. And the fact remains, from the UK article, it doesn't say that she doesn't know it is true. So why is everyone assuming that she doesn't have proof of it or that it wasn't eventually confirmed for her? Maybe Prince himself told her that he did it, and gave her a perfectly worded "why" that he did it, so that she didn't blame him or hate him for it.

And how do we know it isn't true? Prince often said "I don't believe in time," "I don't look back," "I don't look at the past." Ahmir is a part of the past, a very painful past. Knowing how Prince was about looking back and how he was about sentimentality, about clinging to things from the past, why is it so astonishing to people to think that Prince would not, could not hang on to something that was such a painful reminder of what he'd lost? JWs believe that once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing of you remains. The body is just an empty shell. I can imagine how it could have played out. "Why are you clinging to something that is just an empty shell? Your son no longer exists in those bones. Keeping them only reminds you of the pain of your loss and hanging on to Mayte's things only remind you of that time too."

As for previous posts by others that were questioning why she didn't have the ashes, she had went to Spain to purchase them a hacienda, that Prince rarely visited. And if Prince had wanted to keep the ashes, do you all honestly believe that Mayte could have gotten them from him? If Prince wanted something, Prince got it. If Prince wanted to keep something, Prince kept it. If he didn't, it was gone. Prince let go of people and things easily if they no longer served the purpose he wanted them to serve. I know that ideology, too, and it is a result of his childhood, because I can do it easily too.

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:

Going by the excerpt from the UK article, it's not quite as scandalous as others have tried to paint it.

The Times is not a tabloid, dont compare their journalistic style to the Daily Mail. Maybe you were not aware of this. Accusing Prince of burning his sons ashes is not scandalous? After Prince died she said "hes with our son now." This is the same man she has accused of tossing his sons ashes on a fire. After he died she got a toattoo to honour him. So IF its true, which i dont belive it is, doesnt she care what he did to the ashes? . . [Edited 3/18/17 3:00am] [Edited 3/18/17 3:02am]

I never compared their journalistic style to the Daily Mail. But there were quite a few that were definitely in arms over the tabloid article in the People and believing what they were reading in it.

As for the scandalous aspect of the ashes, see my post before this one.

AnnaSantana said:

After reading that interview Mayte did with the Times, I'm beginning to realize why some people don't want this book to come out....the REAL reason...

....she's about to spill ALL the tea on that cult Prince joined.

I cannot fucking wait.

I was quite honestly looking forward to the book anyway, but now that you've mentioned it...the reasoning behind a whole lot of the stupid shit on this thread suddenly makes complete sense.

Oh I cannot fucking wait either!

benni said:

As a mother, if I did not know where my child was alive or dead, it would be my life's mission to find out. She makes all of the horrible statements about what he did, yet she makes no mention of even asking one time "where are my babies ashes".
No one knows how he would have answered, but no one could stop her from asking the question a million times if nessesary, but herself.

The burning of certain items representing the past or a dark and difficult chapter of one's life is not uncommon amongst believers, in particular when trying to move on. Just to say that it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was true and I would actually understand Prince's reasons behind it.

Prince himself said before (in interviews) that he didn't like clinging on to the past and preferred looking forward to (better) things to come. I can't see how Mayte sharing such an information would impact on the respect the fans have for him.

And perhaps this book is now Mayte's own way of moving on by finally getting all of this out of her system. As for the timing of her book, it could relate to the fact that certain things start hitting us later in life, usually between 40-50, when we have more maturity and experience to deal with issues along with a desire to make the best of the amount of time we have left to live.

Prince's passing could have also triggered some emotions that were bottled up in her for so long to come out and she may have found it liberating to be able to start expressing herself without the fear of what her ex-husband may have thought.

As adults, they both have a right to make their own choices so who are we to judge either of them?

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I totally agree about Prince's spiritual thinking about the body...I think you nailed it. He had to form a relationship of his own with his deceased son...I think the Comeback songs lyrics illustrated exactly how he did it.

I don't however think he could completely eradicate the past...as much as he tried. It still stayed with him..some of the stuff in the Piano and Microphone tour proved that. I do think there was some sentimentality there...it just was entwined with religious and mystical thinking.

benni said:

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said: How are we ever going to know if it's true or not? And why publish something that can't be verified? Hearsay shouldn't be in this book. [Edited 3/18/17 7:05am]

Because it was something she was told that had an impact on her. It effected her deeply. Whether it was true or not. I understand how it could effect her, even if she doesn't know the truth of it. How could it not effect her? To her, that is a part of her story, and it is something that had an impact on her, that may have colored the way in which she saw LG and the JW, if a part of her believes they were instrumental in Prince doing that. What everyone seems to be overlooking is that this is Mayte's story, not Prince's. This is her side so of course she is going to include those things that impacted her the greatest from those times. And the fact remains, from the UK article, it doesn't say that she doesn't know it is true. So why is everyone assuming that she doesn't have proof of it or that it wasn't eventually confirmed for her? Maybe Prince himself told her that he did it, and gave her a perfectly worded "why" that he did it, so that she didn't blame him or hate him for it.

And how do we know it isn't true? Prince often said "I don't believe in time," "I don't look back," "I don't look at the past." Ahmir is a part of the past, a very painful past. Knowing how Prince was about looking back and how he was about sentimentality, about clinging to things from the past, why is it so astonishing to people to think that Prince would not, could not hang on to something that was such a painful reminder of what he'd lost? JWs believe that once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing of you remains. The body is just an empty shell. I can imagine how it could have played out. "Why are you clinging to something that is just an empty shell? Your son no longer exists in those bones. Keeping them only reminds you of the pain of your loss and hanging on to Mayte's things only remind you of that time too."

As for previous posts by others that were questioning why she didn't have the ashes, she had went to Spain to purchase them a hacienda, that Prince rarely visited. And if Prince had wanted to keep the ashes, do you all honestly believe that Mayte could have gotten them from him? If Prince wanted something, Prince got it. If Prince wanted to keep something, Prince kept it. If he didn't, it was gone. Prince let go of people and things easily if they no longer served the purpose he wanted them to serve. I know that ideology, too, and it is a result of his childhood, because I can do it easily too.

I am a mother also. I wouldn't cremate my children period. But I am not sure what I would think about the ashes of my child. I don't want to think about that. I know I wouldn't lay in bed with a urn of ashes. That would just creep me out..

but like I said, the mourning process is different for everyone.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

benni said:

Because it was something she was told that had an impact on her. It effected her deeply. Whether it was true or not. I understand how it could effect her, even if she doesn't know the truth of it. How could it not effect her? To her, that is a part of her story, and it is something that had an impact on her, that may have colored the way in which she saw LG and the JW, if a part of her believes they were instrumental in Prince doing that. What everyone seems to be overlooking is that this is Mayte's story, not Prince's. This is her side so of course she is going to include those things that impacted her the greatest from those times. And the fact remains, from the UK article, it doesn't say that she doesn't know it is true. So why is everyone assuming that she doesn't have proof of it or that it wasn't eventually confirmed for her? Maybe Prince himself told her that he did it, and gave her a perfectly worded "why" that he did it, so that she didn't blame him or hate him for it.

And how do we know it isn't true? Prince often said "I don't believe in time," "I don't look back," "I don't look at the past." Ahmir is a part of the past, a very painful past. Knowing how Prince was about looking back and how he was about sentimentality, about clinging to things from the past, why is it so astonishing to people to think that Prince would not, could not hang on to something that was such a painful reminder of what he'd lost? JWs believe that once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing of you remains. The body is just an empty shell. I can imagine how it could have played out. "Why are you clinging to something that is just an empty shell? Your son no longer exists in those bones. Keeping them only reminds you of the pain of your loss and hanging on to Mayte's things only remind you of that time too."

As for previous posts by others that were questioning why she didn't have the ashes, she had went to Spain to purchase them a hacienda, that Prince rarely visited. And if Prince had wanted to keep the ashes, do you all honestly believe that Mayte could have gotten them from him? If Prince wanted something, Prince got it. If Prince wanted to keep something, Prince kept it. If he didn't, it was gone. Prince let go of people and things easily if they no longer served the purpose he wanted them to serve. I know that ideology, too, and it is a result of his childhood, because I can do it easily too.

As a mother, if I did not know where my child was alive or dead, it would be my life's mission to find out. She makes all of the horrible statements about what he did, yet she makes no mention of even asking one time "where are my babies ashes". No one knows how he would have answered, but no one could stop her from asking the question a million times if nessesary, but herself.

benni said:

rogifan said:

purplerabbithole said: How are we ever going to know if it's true or not? And why publish something that can't be verified? Hearsay shouldn't be in this book. [Edited 3/18/17 7:05am]

Because it was something she was told that had an impact on her. It effected her deeply. Whether it was true or not. I understand how it could effect her, even if she doesn't know the truth of it. How could it not effect her? To her, that is a part of her story, and it is something that had an impact on her, that may have colored the way in which she saw LG and the JW, if a part of her believes they were instrumental in Prince doing that. What everyone seems to be overlooking is that this is Mayte's story, not Prince's. This is her side so of course she is going to include those things that impacted her the greatest from those times. And the fact remains, from the UK article, it doesn't say that she doesn't know it is true. So why is everyone assuming that she doesn't have proof of it or that it wasn't eventually confirmed for her? Maybe Prince himself told her that he did it, and gave her a perfectly worded "why" that he did it, so that she didn't blame him or hate him for it.

And how do we know it isn't true? Prince often said "I don't believe in time," "I don't look back," "I don't look at the past." Ahmir is a part of the past, a very painful past. Knowing how Prince was about looking back and how he was about sentimentality, about clinging to things from the past, why is it so astonishing to people to think that Prince would not, could not hang on to something that was such a painful reminder of what he'd lost? JWs believe that once you are dead, you are dead. Nothing of you remains. The body is just an empty shell. I can imagine how it could have played out. "Why are you clinging to something that is just an empty shell? Your son no longer exists in those bones. Keeping them only reminds you of the pain of your loss and hanging on to Mayte's things only remind you of that time too."

As for previous posts by others that were questioning why she didn't have the ashes, she had went to Spain to purchase them a hacienda, that Prince rarely visited. And if Prince had wanted to keep the ashes, do you all honestly believe that Mayte could have gotten them from him? If Prince wanted something, Prince got it. If Prince wanted to keep something, Prince kept it. If he didn't, it was gone. Prince let go of people and things easily if they no longer served the purpose he wanted them to serve. I know that ideology, too, and it is a result of his childhood, because I can do it easily too.

PeteSilas said:

Prince was traumatized. Hence the reactions. He loved his son very much. That's why it hurt so much.
Trauma is a terrible thing. We probably all have little or big ones throughout our lives. He knows he made mistakes, he was in the grips of hurt.
[Edited 3/18/17 8:29am]

This story would have come out eventually if its true. So would you rather it be from someone who attributes these unconventional actions to loss and pain, or from someone who writes them off as callousness and spite?

Plus, I don't think it was 20 years ago. 20 years ago Prince was still married to Mayte. I think it was 13 to 15 years ago when he was married to Manuela..Manuela referenced Prince burning Mayte's stuff in her divorce papers.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

purplerabbithole said:

What if its true? Is that a dealbreaker for your prince fandom?

The problem is she already put it in the book, we should not be discussing weather it is true or not, she should have done that in advance, she should have done that 20 years ago. There are 2 sides to every story so what ever happened, we will only know her side, so you can not make a fair judgement of anything with only one side of the story.

I have a lot of compassion for Mayte. It seems she is still hurting or angry about these losses. She obviously loved her husband very much.
When she can accept the things that have happened she will be free.