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Mayte is saying that it is written in love, but what I've seen in articles so far is making him look like a controling monster. The other way to look at it is that her experiences with him overall were not pleasant. Either way it's her story to tell. | |
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read the uk article, how the hell was mayte making such big bucks as a dancer at 16? she tries to say she was making a hundred grand and working for prince was less than that. How the hell could that be unless she was working some sick underground pedo ring, which, with her mother, she may have. | |
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I thought it was funny that the article stated that the book presented her mother as a whirlwind of ambition and energy. Duh...
Wondering about that pay comment myself but she did say that Prince was unaware of the pay difference so at least she didn't blame him for that.
Mayte is lucky in one respct. She was handed over to Prince and the NPG..she was surrounded by macho dudes and no one messed with her until Prince and she got together (consentually) when she was 19 (not the day she turned 18 or god-forbid earlier.) The mom was not being responsible in my opinion. Imagine if it was the 1970's and he was Roman Polanski.
Some impressions from this article... I also think its interesting that he told her that it was okay if she wanted to fight or disagree with him even though with employees he tended to just fire them if they disagreed. I don't agree with those tactics as a boss (however it was Prince in the.. 1990's so no surprise there) but he is not coming off quite as controlling of her as I thought he would. (She still chose not to argue..I noticed... but I think she feared he would just detach from her). But, she did have influence...she decided to not call him Prince long before he did the symbol thing; and she seemed to be the first one to think that they shouldn't do the trachaea on their son. Other humanizing tidbits--She also said that when she was mourning in her bed, he did feel him slip in and lay next to her and slip back out again quietly. She also described the ways in which he was spending time with her and ahmir in the hospital (heartbreaking sweet description). She described him as gentle as a lover, extremely supportive of her pregnancy (unlike what te nannies suggested), she mentioned that she did have chaperones in her mother and sister, she described herself as wanting to have sex with him before he actually asked (although his line about the ladies being jealous of her for being a virgin was a bit uncomfortable), she described his humor, his dirty language, showed a picture of him holding a puppy,she described him as attentive and during their friendship years, he seemed unphased that she had a prom date. this relationship was not orthodox by any means, but I am not sure I would describe it as monstrous. My guess is that Prince was lonely and thought that Mayte's youth was pure or untainted (so therefore sincere and loyal) but he was no pedophile. He still wanted a woman who was ready. He wasn't overpowering or forceful in a traditional sense, but seductive, over--attentive, all-consuming and patient as hell. Controlling..yes. But not in a threatening way that she was fearful of. A mixed bag...a lonely self-protective, at-times insecure man. It was a painful relationship that ended badly but I think (if you go by the tone of this article rather than the DM and People), it was a relationship she had good memories from.
Some people will just call him a svengali or worse a predator who is borderline pedophile. However, 3 years is a long time to wait for just a roll in the hay with a young woman. and he married her and attempted to have babies twice.
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The UK article says:
Covering her left wrist is a huge tattoo of Prince’s symbol interwoven with the first letter of her name, a logo that he wore on the back of his white wedding suit and had monogrammed all over their home – on the china, the curtains, napkins and towels – before he burnt everything that reminded him of her after their marriage failed, including the ashes of their son, Amiir, who died in infancy.
The china tried to she auction off? Burning the urn is something that she stated someone had told her he did.
Also wondering if she wanted to "pursue a luctative belly-dancing career" in Egypt, why would she go work for P "at a fraction of what she was earning in Europe"?
In addition, isn't this the 368th version of how she met him? The who, when and how keeps changing.
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Going by the excerpt from the UK article, it's not quite as scandalous as others have tried to paint it. | |
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benni said: Going by the excerpt from the UK article, it's not quite as scandalous as others have tried to paint it. The Times is not a tabloid, dont compare their journalistic style to the Daily Mail. Maybe you were not aware of this. Accusing Prince of burning his sons ashes is not scandalous? After Prince died she said "hes with our son now." This is the same man she has accused of tossing his sons ashes on a fire. After he died she got a toattoo to honour him. So IF its true, which i dont belive it is, doesnt she care what he did to the ashes? . . [Edited 3/18/17 3:00am] [Edited 3/18/17 3:02am] Baby, you're a star.
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I seen an copy of this magazine at the supermarket today. I didn't get it. | |
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Amen. To AWWL of this. I don't argue with people about my opinions. Scram. I said what I said. | |
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Lovejunky said:
I strongly Disagree with you Luv4u
Prince was very ready to accept the reality, he was fearless .
Imagine yourself in this situation...Doctors are telling you there is a possibility that something is wrong with your child.There is a procedure that will tell you for sure, however it carries the risk that your child will spontaneously abort.If that doesnt happen, you will know to what extent your child is handicapped, in which case you have an option to approve a medicatl abortion, which is just a fancy word for " you can kill your baby before its born "
Allowing the baby to come to full term despite knowing that there were real problems, is an act of faith. Further, turning off the babys life support, was a tremendous act of Love and compassion.
Prince was not in denial..
He was entirely willing to experience the consequences of whatever reality manifested.
We are allowed to disagree if we are polite about it, right Luv ? Both of your comments are interesting. Did Prince try to control the outcome or not? He wasn't as grown spiritually at that point as he became later, but he had trusted God throughout his life already, so it's hard to know. Prince was a paradoxical example of self-reliance and God-reliance. He trusted God but he also trusted himself. Burning everything after the passing of the baby could've been because he wanted no reminders and/or because he knew the baby's spirit was with God already anyway. I have felt even before I had the unedited transcript (which I have not read thoroughly because life has had me busy) that he was trauamatized and sort of freaked out. We know older women musicians said this past year he was not without his traumas. Hence his practice of staying in the present moment later. He might not have been there yet back at this time. Leaving Mayte and going with mani was also an example, I believe, of his trauma around the baby. Trying to avoid feelings. Sort of like the way I chopped my hair off after someone badly hurt my father when I was a young woman. Getting deeply involved in religion and then growing g from there was the good that came out of this all. It's always that way IF we are willing to accept God's will, which truly takes time. Acceptance dies not come overnight, it's a process. But it helps us grow in all areas. | |
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about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite or that he didn't honor him in his heart in his own way...(the hospital stories, the Come Back song all prove he loved the child) What he did also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your shelf like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell and disrespectful. Other people would disagree obviously.
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she doesn't even know if it's true, it's the way muckraking books are written "it appears" "he may have" it's bullshit. anyway, people throw they mommas ashes in the ocean and shit, i'd never do that. but lots of people do. | |
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After reading that interview Mayte did with the Times, I'm beginning to realize why some people don't want this book to come out....the REAL reason...
....she's about to spill ALL the tea on that cult Prince joined.
I cannot fucking wait. I don't argue with people about my opinions. Scram. I said what I said. | |
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Don't presume what people's real reasons are for being upset about the memoir. I was upset about this book (at least how its played out in the media) but I also wish he hadn't become a JW. I don't think it was healthy for him at all. It was a milder form of a opiate. I get why he did it and I can't presume that LG and others were intentionally trying to hurt him but I don't think that religion did much for him. i prefer the more open spirituality he seemed to be embracing toward the end of his life, not the Rainbrow children BS.
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purplerabbithole said: about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite. It also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your self like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell.
[Edited 3/18/17 6:00am] [Edited 3/18/17 6:03am] Some weird spiritual thing? Im pretty sure JW dont dishonour their dead by throwing their loved ones remains on a backyard bonfire. Why did she never question him about it? Why did she believe this person who heard it from someone else and just accept it as fact? Who are these people? Why did she not have the ashes with her? Baby, you're a star.
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The media is gonna do what the media does. Don't pay any attention to the hype. Mayte's intentions for writing her story are not malicious in the least. I don't argue with people about my opinions. Scram. I said what I said. | |
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I know people do weird things to mourn sometimes.
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This article is the best article written since his passing. |
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AnnaSantana said: After reading that interview Mayte did with the Times, I'm beginning to realize why some people don't want this book to come out....the REAL reason...
....she's about to spill ALL the tea on that cult Prince joined.
I cannot fucking wait. Are you saying everyone who opposes the book is a JW?  Baby, you're a star.
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Reading is fundamental.
Look at it again. See the words "SOME PEOPLE"?
You're welcome.
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BillieBalloon said: purplerabbithole said: about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite. It also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your self like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell.
[Edited 3/18/17 6:00am] [Edited 3/18/17 6:03am] Some weird spiritual thing? Im pretty sure JW dont dishonour their dead by throwing their loved ones remains on a backyard bonfire. Why did she never question him about it? Why did she believe this person who heard it from someone else and just accept it as fact? Who are these people? Why did she not have the ashes with her? Also, if you are going to have some weird spiritual ceremony, I don't think you tell your assistant to do it. So did he and Larry burn the ashes with the rest of her stuff, or did the mysterious assistant burn the ashes, mayte doesn't know so that is why she made the prudent loving decision to included it in her book. | |
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Now we know the REAL reason why you are gloating about this book. |
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AnnaSantana said:
Reading is fundamental.
Look at it again. See the words "SOME PEOPLE"?
You're welcome.
Comprehension is also fundamental If there were explosive claims about JWs, the media would have published it. No, all theyve talked about is Prince and his drug/adoption/fondness for burning ashes ways. Dont hold your breath. Baby, you're a star.
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AnnaSantana said:
The media is gonna do what the media does. Don't pay any attention to the hype. Mayte's intentions for writing her story are not malicious in the least. What was the intention for including an unverified and devastating rumour she heard and publishing it? Baby, you're a star.
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purplerabbithole said: Don't presume what people's real reasons are for being upset about the memoir. I was upset about this book (at least how its played out in the media) but I also wish he hadn't become a JW. I don't think it was healthy for him at all. It was a milder form of a opiate. I get why he did it and I can't presume that LG and others were intentionally trying to hurt him but I don't think that religion did much for him. i prefer the more open spirituality he seemed to be embracing toward the end of his life, not the Rainbrow children BS.
I often wonder about this. Is it a JW thing or just religion in general? I think his belief in God was a good thing and it never bothered me that he stopped cursing. But I could do without some of the conspiracy theory stuff he bought into. Though I don't know if that was a JW thing or not. Paisley Park is in your heart
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purplerabbithole said: about the ashes thing...you all are just going to have to live with this if it is true. Prince and Mayte are both weird people. What we might think is disrespectful, Prince might have some weird spiritual reason for doing. It doesn't mean he did not love his son or that it was out of spite or that he didn't honor him in his heart in his own way...(the hospital stories, the Come Back song all prove he loved the child) What he did also might be a result of mental illness and depression.. She painted it as the result of extreme pain. I think she should have have left the statement out because she wasn't there to see how it was done and has no proof but I have heard of worse things. To me, keeping ashes of a deceased loved one on your shelf like a ornament or piece of furniture (or in the entrance of a museum/home) is weird as hell and disrespectful. Other people would disagree obviously.
[Edited 3/18/17 6:00am] [Edited 3/18/17 6:03am] [Edited 3/18/17 6:17am] How are we ever going to know if it's true or not? And why publish something that can't be verified? Hearsay shouldn't be in this book. [Edited 3/18/17 7:05am] Paisley Park is in your heart
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She might diss on JW more than you think. The press doesn't want to offend readers; they just want to see weird tidbits about Prince.
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I don't think Mayte sent each tabloid a snip of her book. It was probably her publishing house, that did so. | |
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