Exactly, dude was an open book. The only thing we did not know about the baby was the details of his apperance and his real name. Those two stupid nannies told a lot to the tabs. You know the two nannies that were trying to sell pics of the baby to the tabs and went to the police making accusations that were not found to be true. Sounds like P was surrounded by money grubbing and explortive people all around | |
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I'm not gonna be on this thread bashing Mayte. Not gonna be posting much here, but I just wanted to say, I wish she would have been more loyal to Prince by keeping certain private things to herself that Prince wouldn't have wanted people to know about. That would have been the real show of love. I can't help but feel resentful towards the drug use comments. And reading the excerpt about the first time Prince held his baby felt really wrong, and I feel like she violated Prince by telling the world about such a personal moment. If that was my experience, I would have never wanted strangers to share that with me. She has a right to tell her story, but I think she was careless in what she shared about Prince. She shouldn't have done that to him... [Edited 3/17/17 19:37pm] | |
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Prince was very fortunate in his life that he DID NOT have many if any scandals, he very rarely was topic for discussions in the media for that reason. Till the name change, and then followed by the marriage and childs death but still at the time PRINCE was not a "IN" artist he was really written off in terms of mainstream in the mid to late 90's. He was not like a Madonna or MJ who had things constantly about them true and false.
As far as money grubbing that can be said of the two nannies, but I would not apply that to writing this book though. 99.9% of the world does not know MAYTE, and in this trending social media driven world where you are news for a day, no one is gonna care what is in that book when we actually read it or someone does.
And if we can say MAYTE is "money grubbing" then everyone from the Revolution to Shelia doing cruises and Morris Day doing his thing, to all of a sudden the NPG is a band again and touring do we apply that to all of them? For me I dont, the reality is if they don't keep him "ALIVE" no one is gonna. The tours are over, no more showing up to parties, no more late nite gigs, no more hit n run's to talk about, and probably very limited "new" music coming if any at all. So for me I would rather have people who knew him talked about him, and WE ALL who have minds can believe it or just not believe it, but I would rather see 3rd eye girl or the NPG etc...touring and doing what they have too and what they want than see Bruno Mars dressing up like Prince on an award show. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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purplerabbithole said: So all people who speak about their issues with this book are doing so because they don't like that Prince is depicted as less than perfect???and We should just not read the book.
This trivialization of others concerns is a bit unfair. I, for one, don't care if she wrote a book (even though I have always been weary of people thinking random strangers can give you support and therapy), Everyone knows he is less than perfect. everyone knows his wife wasn't given the right kind of support from Prince when the baby died.
My concern is that the magazine is cherrypicked for salacious details without balance, the headline was tacky, and the timing of the book is atrocious. Plus, I doubt she calls out her parents or herself for their own flaws and mistakes--at the very least we all make mistakes and have flaws. It's not "a bit unfair" it's bullshit. Those of us who aren't fans of what Mayte is doing, it has nothing to do with her not painting Prince as a saint. No one here is arguing Prince was a perfect human being wit no flaws. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Prince was a genius. None of us will think less of his music or his films or any other work product from his brilliant mind. That being said, he was a human being and people are offering bits and pieces about the human being. That is all this book is. We've had 100+ pages or so on the org about his relationship with Andy Allo - most of which is supposition based upon glances at concerts ... Mayte has an actual story to tell - let her tell it. It is her right. | |
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luvgirl said: I'm not gonna be on this thread bashing Mayte. Not gonna be posting much here, but I just wanted to say I wish she would have been more loyal to Prince by keeping certain private things to herself that Prince wouldn't have want people to know. That would have been the real show of love. I can't help but feel resentful towards the drug use comments, and reading the excerpt about the first time Prince held his baby felt really wrong and I feel like she violated Prince by telling the world. If that was my experience, I would have never wanted strangers to share that with me. She has a right to tell her story, but I think she was careless in what she shared about Prince.... She has a right to tell her story like anyone does but honestly would anyone even know who she was had she not been married to Prince? It's not like she's had a successful career or a really interesting life and also just happened to be married to Prince. The only reason a lot of people will be buying this book is because of what she writes about Prince. And because people love reading about other people's flaws and tragedies there's enough of that in the book to get the attention of the tabloids and possibly produce additional book sales outside of did hard Prince fans. Makes me want to vomit. Paisley Park is in your heart
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lastdecember said:
Prince was very fortunate in his life that he DID NOT have many if any scandals, he very rarely was topic for discussions in the media for that reason. Till the name change, and then followed by the marriage and childs death but still at the time PRINCE was not a "IN" artist he was really written off in terms of mainstream in the mid to late 90's. He was not like a Madonna or MJ who had things constantly about them true and false.
As far as money grubbing that can be said of the two nannies, but I would not apply that to writing this book though. 99.9% of the world does not know MAYTE, and in this trending social media driven world where you are news for a day, no one is gonna care what is in that book when we actually read it or someone does.
And if we can say MAYTE is "money grubbing" then everyone from the Revolution to Shelia doing cruises and Morris Day doing his thing, to all of a sudden the NPG is a band again and touring do we apply that to all of them? For me I dont, the reality is if they don't keep him "ALIVE" no one is gonna. The tours are over, no more showing up to parties, no more late nite gigs, no more hit n run's to talk about, and probably very limited "new" music coming if any at all. So for me I would rather have people who knew him talked about him, and WE ALL who have minds can believe it or just not believe it, but I would rather see 3rd eye girl or the NPG etc...touring and doing what they have too and what they want than see Bruno Mars dressing up like Prince on an award show. --Those people are musicians making a living with their talent and they were doing this before he died. Prince toured with them and worked with them. They are making money by working not tearing him for a buck. Can you imagine the things Morris and Sheila E could say but you get nothing but love. These two have done charity concerts to support causes Prince supported. How in the hell are you making a comparison? She is exploiting their child and I posted what the auction site dad about her trying to sell the jewelry that it appears she did not have the right to sell in the first place. [Edited 3/17/17 5:51am] [Edited 3/17/17 6:29am] | |
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PeteSilas said:
don't i know it, i got booted off here before, maybe will again. Anyway, I'll say what i feel about Malcolm X's last big hack job, my question is, what good does it do? for anyone? And that's not even considering whether most of it was lies, the question i have is, what good does it do to take an icon, a great example and "humanize him" or whatever. I guess for the bougie it makes them feel better but for people that actually need some of the great attributes that Malcolm had, what good does it do them to hear crap? The press have cherry picked quotes from the book and are busy right now tarnishing his reputation, people are calling him vile things. So yeah...what good did it do? This man who gave so much. He had faullts, im not blind to that, but raking over a dead mans bones the way they are? Where are his fans? Baby, you're a star.
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Just don't say you love someone forever, and then share their deepest darkest moments of dispare for money. If you really loved him, you could not do it for any price. | |
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Heres one...
Enduring the horrible Media slaughter and bracing myself becasue its only beginning....and it hurts so much to see Prince dishonoured in any way ...and its happenening before our eyes. But the shit wont stick.
Prince was GOOD
time will prove that...
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So when everyone gets their books, do you all want to do a book club? | |
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BillieBalloon said: PeteSilas said:
don't i know it, i got booted off here before, maybe will again. Anyway, I'll say what i feel about Malcolm X's last big hack job, my question is, what good does it do? for anyone? And that's not even considering whether most of it was lies, the question i have is, what good does it do to take an icon, a great example and "humanize him" or whatever. I guess for the bougie it makes them feel better but for people that actually need some of the great attributes that Malcolm had, what good does it do them to hear crap? The press have cherry picked quotes from the book and are busy right now tarnishing his reputation, people are calling him vile things. So yeah...what good did it do? This man who gave so much. He had faullts, im not blind to that, but raking over a dead mans bones the way they are? Where are his fans? Apparently on Amazon ordering the book. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Lovejunky said:
Heres one...
Enduring the horrible Media slaughter and bracing myself becasue its only beginning....and it hurts so much to see Prince dishonoured in any way ...and its happenening before our eyes. But the shit wont stick.
Prince was GOOD
time will prove that...
Nice to meet you! The dismantling of this man has begun. Baby, you're a star.
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Soooo you never looked at Prince as a human being before reading his private stuff? I get what you're saying but thats just sad. In addition to the media having a field day with this.
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Well it looks like the Revolution might be in bed with an enemy. Where is the outrage?
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PennyPurple said:
Well it looks like the Revolution might be in bed with an enemy. Where is the outrage?
Latin:
Mark could be clueless about that situation. I know when Eric hot on the stage at the L.A memorial many people were pissed and M2 has gone into her hovel since those divorce papers came out. | |
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BillieBalloon said: Lovejunky said:
Heres one...
Enduring the horrible Media slaughter and bracing myself becasue its only beginning....and it hurts so much to see Prince dishonoured in any way ...and its happenening before our eyes. But the shit wont stick.
Prince was GOOD
time will prove that...
Nice to meet you! The dismantling of this man has begun. --Plenty of people have spoken up for him. People who are influential. I do not think Mayte is going to have it easy when she is promoting this book she is already being dragged hard. [Edited 3/17/17 7:13am] | |
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wonder505 said:
Soooo you never looked at Prince as a human being before reading his private stuff? I get what you're saying but thats just sad. In addition to the media having a field day with this.
[Edited 3/17/17 6:48am] Prince has only become a human being after the release of this book. The loss of the child he suffered 20 yrs ago didn't register until today. Baby, you're a star.
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I agree. I used to think Prince was cold at times or a jerk (I am a die hard fan but I have thought that in the past) but since his passing, I really see how tender and sometimes, traumatized he was. He just dealt with things the only way he knew how: by sticking his head in the ground and plowing through his work. | |
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How about this: No one EVER talks about Prince or writes anything about him again. EVER. Would that make all of you Mayte haters feel better? How about we all just hang onto our memories and just let him fade away from the worlds mind............... | |
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kingricefan said: How about this: No one EVER talks about Prince or writes anything about him again. EVER. Would that make all of you Mayte haters feel better? How about we all just hang onto our memories and just let him fade away from the worlds mind..... No, no don't do that! We can talk about him, but only tell stories of how he was a patron saint, who never treated anyone bad, never did drugs, made perfect music, turned water into wine, and died on the cross, killed by the illuminati.... Don't forget, all who speak negative of him, or make him out to be a normal human being with faults are money hungry, opportunistic gold diggers who, even though they actually knew him personally, know less than select fans who didn't... | |
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kingricefan said: How about this: No one EVER talks about Prince or writes anything about him again. EVER. Would that make all of you Mayte haters feel better? How about we all just hang onto our memories and just let him fade away from the worlds mind..... That would be better than her crap but the music will bec around much longer than this book. | |
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Your comment is silly.
Because I prefer some things to remain private of people's lives, that automatically means that i think they are saints? [Edited 3/17/17 8:39am] | |
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How relevant is Prince to today's music scene? Do "the kids" even know who he is or, unfortunately now I must say, was? He got mere minutes at the Grammys. The Revolution and NPG touring, Mayte's and all the other books, film and TV placement, streaming services and everything else will bring attention to his legacy, and hopefully bring in new fans. I drive around with two Prince decals on my car - maybe someone will see them and go onto iTunes and buy some Prince music. We have to do what we can to keep his legacy going. So she wrote a book. Not a big deal IMO. For God's sake, David Bowie just got his own stamps through the Royal Mail, less than a year and a half after his death. Fans have to be vigilant to make sure Prince is included in what the USA offers for icons.
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PurpleMedley122 said: kingricefan said: How about this: No one EVER talks about Prince or writes anything about him again. EVER. Would that make all of you Mayte haters feel better? How about we all just hang onto our memories and just let him fade away from the worlds mind..... No, no don't do that! We can talk about him, but only tell stories of how he was a patron saint, who never treated anyone bad, never did drugs, made perfect music, turned water into wine, and died on the cross, killed by the illuminati.... Don't forget, all who speak negative of him, or make him out to be a normal human being with faults are money hungry, opportunistic gold diggers who, even though they actually knew him personally, know less than select fans who didn't... That's stupid...it is not that she is talking about him, it is that she perports to still love him and has always loved him. So it is about betraying the confidence of someone you love. talk all you want mayte, say anything you want, just don't say you love him, you have just proven otherwise. | |
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wonder505 said:
So that's it? Because I prefer some things to remain private of people's lives, that automatically means that i think they are saints? No, it means that it was Mayte's child also and she has a right to bring that private part of her life public if she wants to. You have no say (other than no reading the book) in that. Prince, unfortunately, is no longer here so he also has no say, and we don't know if he would/wouldn't like this so stop pretending like you know when you didn't know him personally. . Question, if Prince finished his memoir and mentioned his experience with Mayte and losing his child, would you guys be up in arms over an inconsideration of Mayte's feelings? [Edited 3/17/17 8:47am] | |
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I feel that the "kids" know more about Prince than you think they do. And AGAIN I dont see why we needed to know certain graphic details about his son to appreciate his music. I mean, is that what it really takes to maintain legacy? . [Edited 3/17/17 8:49am] | |
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I just find it funny that those who profess the loudest against purchasing her book are on a thread discussing that book and an article with an excerpt from that book. If they truly weren't interested in the book, then they would have just ignored this thread after the first time they stated they weren't interested in the book or her. To keep coming back, implies definite interest. If you ain't interested, then whatchu doing here on a thread about the book? And if you ain't interested in what she is doing, why you keep posting things about what she is doing? Sounds like interest in what she is doing, to me. | |
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Where did I indicate that I had a say in the publishing this book? I'm just formulating my opinion just like you are. Where did I indicate that I know for a fact of what Prince would have wanted regarding this book? Can you point that out?
All I know is that she waited until he died to do this. Prince started his memoir before his death and it was publicly known. She can share what she wants if that brings her healing. I just dont see why she feels the world needed to know some of the intimate details that he never talked about. But we live in a world with people like you where anything goes and anything can be discussed. Anything. [Edited 3/17/17 9:08am] | |
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PurpleMedley122 said: wonder505 said:
So that's it? Because I prefer some things to remain private of people's lives, that automatically means that i think they are saints? No, it means that it was Mayte's child also and she has a right to bring that private part of her life public if she wants to. You have no say (other than no reading the book) in that. Prince, unfortunately, is no longer here so he also has no say, and we don't know if he would/wouldn't like this so stop pretending like you know when you didn't know him personally. . Question, if Prince finished his memoir and mentioned his experience with Mayte and losing his child, would you guys be up in arms over an inconsideration of Mayte's feelings? [Edited 3/17/17 8:47am] I would venture to say that Prince wouldn't have told stories of his ex vomiting all over the house, implicating drug use. by his ex, with or without proof, or went into details about his child's appearance and say they were horrified by it. Basically, I don't believe for one second that he would have opened up her life to the kind of scrutiny that she has opened him up to, on of all things, the anniversary of this man's death. Too much detail. Way too much. | |
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