Militant said:

The ridiculous thing is that from what we know, she's not dogging him out in the book - but just telling her side of the story.

If Prince had managed to complete his book - and for argument's sake let's say he dogged out Mayte, Mani, Carmen, Vanity, Wendy, Lisa, anyone........ Would anyone here be jumping to their defence and saying that Prince shouldn't have written his book etc etc etc? No, of course not. Because he is entitled to his side of the story and Mayte is entitled to hers.

Right now, people are judging someone they don't know for writing a book they haven't read that's about a relationship they weren't in. And why? Because Prince didn't want her to write it? Well, let me tell you all something - there were times where he didn't want any of us talking about him on this very forum either. Other people will use that as some sort of twisted evidence that none of us should even be here doing what we're doing right now. Other times, he'd happily log on himself and chuckle at some of the nonsense that gets posted on here. Hell, he said it himself in the AOL chat with that journalist who passed away - he asked her if she ever read prince.org and that some stuff was fun to read. And he would relay messages to us many times, even up until his passing, through Tyka, Meron, Julia, Trevor......whoever was around.

Then lock the thread and do not start another one.

Prince took more licks here when he was alive then all of his associated combined. As far as I'm concerned there are NO special snowflakes, period.

That goes for anybody who puts themselves in the public eye.....NO exceptions.

It is completely unrealistic to expect otherwise.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

The bolded part is the real truth. If he gave a shit, he would have left a will. Guess what? Very good post. Too bad the usual suspects won't respond to you cause it hurts their narrative.

A will has nothing to do with this book. A will would not have stopped her from writing this book. Where is the logical on this board?

Coming from the person who is wondering why a woman who just gave birth via c-section would be prescribed vicodin. My mom was prescribed pain pills each time after giving NATURAL birth to the 4 of us. It is completely common. Jesus, anything to deny Prince had a problem, huh?

"where's the logic"? indeed.....

tish9311 said:

Why are people thinking that a book written by someone who was married to Prince in the 90s would give a better understanding of something that happened to him in 2016?

XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I feel the same way. People should be free to express their opinions in a CONSTRUCTIVE way whether positive or negative. But, even though I choose not to read it, Mayte has the right to tell her story. I'm not going to bash her for doing so, even though I wish Prince was here to refute any negative implications in the book.

[Edited 3/16/17 15:58pm]

as we often see here on the Org, one person's 'constructive' is another person's derogatory, and therefore imo no one person need be limited to living up to another person's definition when it comes to expressing opinions.

as long as it is clearly understood, either through statement of intent or context, that the individual offering the opinion is not a teacher, professional critic, or otherwise operating in a capacity carrying with it professional responsibility or obligation, opinions can be just that. opinions.

otherwise, every single joke, smartass remark or one-off play could and likely would be taken as personal insult or outrageously harmful and snipped and etc. by those who take it upon themselves to deem their own opinions to be somehow above those of others.

Agreed. Although people's opinions may be unpopular and although I wish they would be more constructive, everyone has the right to express themselves. Although I wish it would stay out of troll-ville.

babynoz said:

Militant said:

The ridiculous thing is that from what we know, she's not dogging him out in the book - but just telling her side of the story.

If Prince had managed to complete his book - and for argument's sake let's say he dogged out Mayte, Mani, Carmen, Vanity, Wendy, Lisa, anyone........ Would anyone here be jumping to their defence and saying that Prince shouldn't have written his book etc etc etc? No, of course not. Because he is entitled to his side of the story and Mayte is entitled to hers.

Right now, people are judging someone they don't know for writing a book they haven't read that's about a relationship they weren't in. And why? Because Prince didn't want her to write it? Well, let me tell you all something - there were times where he didn't want any of us talking about him on this very forum either. Other people will use that as some sort of twisted evidence that none of us should even be here doing what we're doing right now. Other times, he'd happily log on himself and chuckle at some of the nonsense that gets posted on here. Hell, he said it himself in the AOL chat with that journalist who passed away - he asked her if she ever read prince.org and that some stuff was fun to read. And he would relay messages to us many times, even up until his passing, through Tyka, Meron, Julia, Trevor......whoever was around.

Then lock the thread and do not start another one.

Prince took more licks here when he was alive then all of his associated combined. As far as I'm concerned there are NO special snowflakes, period.

That goes for anybody who puts themselves in the public eye.....NO exceptions.

It is completely unrealistic to expect otherwise.

We are grown adults, I don't think the thread needs to be locked, just because people don't like the topic of the thread.

sonshine said:

rogifan said:

It's in the book because she needs something to sell the book and apparently she didn't think discussing (or exploiting imo) her son's death was enough. I say again, if this was M2 releasing a book very few, if anyone, would be defending her here. For some reason M1 gets a pass. I'm with Prince over all of this:

Prince isn't here. Plus none of us were any more than strangers to him. So lets stop thinking we can speak for him. And until any one presents their health care credentials or has personal first hand experience with substance abuse, specifically opiod-related, please refrain from commenting on the subject. Trust me you are so off base with your opinions and assumptions it boggles my mind why anyone would continue to make comments that only underscore their ignorance. This is why that subject got banned. Uneducated people turning the subject matter into a shit show with their ignorance. As far as the book goes I've stated my opinion. In short this is all much ado about nothing. There were books before. There will be books after. Get over it. It takes a hella nerve to question the sincerity of one's love for another. It's shameful really. The fact you can say such things on a public forum and still sleep at night is scary. What gives you the right? The level of self-righteousness of some people is truly a mental disorder.

PERFECTLY said, sonshine!!!

rogifan said:

tish9311 said:

Mayte's book is her story and that is what it is . But the People article that's a bit much. It leads you to believe that you are going to learn a whole lot of know things. But I don't we walk away with a better understanding of Prince and his drug additction/habit/abuse.

In a normal world I would run and biuy that people, but I will donate that money to a worthy cause.

Why are people thinking that a book written by someone who was married to Prince in the 90s would give a better understanding of something that happened to him in 2016?

That's the thing--people shouldn't get upset over her take from the 90s. She didn't really know him in the following decades... And can't speak on that.

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

as we often see here on the Org, one person's 'constructive' is another person's derogatory, and therefore imo no one person need be limited to living up to another person's definition when it comes to expressing opinions.

as long as it is clearly understood, either through statement of intent or context, that the individual offering the opinion is not a teacher, professional critic, or otherwise operating in a capacity carrying with it professional responsibility or obligation, opinions can be just that. opinions.

otherwise, every single joke, smartass remark or one-off play could and likely would be taken as personal insult or outrageously harmful and snipped and etc. by those who take it upon themselves to deem their own opinions to be somehow above those of others.

Agreed. Although people's opinions may be unpopular and although I wish they would be more constructive, everyone has the right to express themselves. Although I wish it would stay out of troll-ville.

i added above, that in the case of at least one orger who was permitted to viciously trash prince vendetta style over the years, when it comes to personal attacks and statements designed to humiliate and destroy another person, that is no longer 'airing an opinion', but becomes something else entirely

XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Agreed. Although people's opinions may be unpopular and although I wish they would be more constructive, everyone has the right to express themselves. Although I wish it would stay out of troll-ville.

i added above, that in the case of at least one orger who was permitted to viciously trash prince vendetta style over the years, when it comes to personal attacks and statements designed to humiliate and destroy another person, that is no longer 'airing an opinion', but becomes something else entirely

Especially because he isn't here to defend himself.

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

i added above, that in the case of at least one orger who was permitted to viciously trash prince vendetta style over the years, when it comes to personal attacks and statements designed to humiliate and destroy another person, that is no longer 'airing an opinion', but becomes something else entirely

Especially because he isn't here to defend himself.

personally, i am feeling ambivalent about this book. i really admire Mayte and what she's accomplished in life, and i think it's her right to tell her story.

but i also feel sad because i think we will find out things about prince that were personal, and maybe unflattering.

we all have unflattering sides, and do things we wouldn't want splashed out in a widely read book. and even though prince was a public figure, the parts of his life thus exposed to public scrutiny were personal and should be kept that way.

then again, Mayte has the absolute right to say what she has to say and tell her own story, even if other people decide in their minds that her words and exposure of her life with prince are 'trashy' or 'classless' .

so.... ambivalent here... i don't want to read the book right now, might not ever do so. but good for Mayte anyway

[Edited 3/16/17 17:43pm]

babynoz said:

I know. Why pretend its contains deep, philosophical utterances and profound insights into Princes life. So far its nothing but a sensational and ghoulish expose of Prince and his son.
:shrug;

I've said before that I have no problem with Mayte writing a book I have a problem with the timing of the book. She's had 17 years to write the book.

PennyPurple said:

--I have had two and I was not given any pain killers to take home on average you are in the hospital for 3 days and you can have your pain meds while you are in the hospital. I do not understand why she would have a whole bottle of Vicoden and even she speculated that he may have taken them to stop her from taking to many. You realize that this book is out on line so I actually know some of the crazy crap she is saying and you do not. I am also not the only one questioning her since she was drunk on YouTube.
[Edited 3/16/17 17:57pm]

PennyPurple said:

babynoz said:

Then lock the thread and do not start another one.

Prince took more licks here when he was alive then all of his associated combined. As far as I'm concerned there are NO special snowflakes, period.

That goes for anybody who puts themselves in the public eye.....NO exceptions.

It is completely unrealistic to expect otherwise.

We are grown adults, I don't think the thread needs to be locked, just because people don't like the topic of the thread.

That was my point.

PurpleMedley122 said:

I am not questioning why she had them in the hospital I am question why she a an Rx to take home. You know I read this part of the book have you?

XxAxX said:

What has she accomplished?

BillieBalloon said:

babynoz said:

Thank you! People need to stop fronting. If they want to read the dirt they should just come out and say so and stop trying to play high-brow.

THIS is the kind of historical insight that future generations will glean from this book. Let's not pretend that she isn't media savvy enough to know that the most salacious details are what will get emphasized by the media.




How Prince Dragged His Grieving Wife Out of Bed Soon After Son Died for an Oprah Interview

http://people.com/music/p...ons-death/

I know. Why pretend its contains deep, philosophical utterances and profound insights into Princes life. So far its nothing but a sensational and ghoulish expose of Prince and his son. :shrug;

Don't you mean their son?

rogifan said:

Because of their thought process that this women who had no involvement in his life for 20 years can tell us something about 2016 because she is well informed knowledgeable person whose book will be taught on college campus around the world.
[Edited 3/16/17 17:51pm]

Mayte just announced a book tour. :sigh:

https://twitter.com/mayte...7909663744

She has the right to tell her story, but don't call it " the most beautiful" when It all sounds so ugly, and don't say you still love him while reveling things about him after his death that make him sound horrible, if she really loved him, she would have edited

kingricefan said:

People on this thread dont see him as Prince's son, only as Maytes child, so I thought I would remind them.

purplethunder3121 said:

And yet we get this (which I saw on FB)



Whether it was her intention or not this will be the media meme. They'll take an anecdote from her book and somehow tie it to his death 20 years later. Of course she should know that's what they would do. Anyone with half a brain would know how this will play out in the tabloids.

rogifan said:

purplethunder3121 said:

And yet we get this (which I saw on FB)

Now the single mother of an adopted 5-year-old daughter, Garcia, who was recently diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, admits she’s a loss to fully understand the “inner complexity” that fueled her ex-husband’s appetite for the narcotics that ultimately killed him.

Whether it was her intention or not this will be the media meme. They'll take an anecdote from her book and somehow tie it to his death 20 years later. Of course she should know that's what they would do. Anyone with half a brain would know how this will play out in the tabloids.

Of course. That's what tabloids do unfortunately.

rogifan said:

Now that pisses me off, she has had no relationship with him for 20 years, of course she has no idea what happened, but that 100% makes it sound like he was a crazy drug addict while they were together and ever since. I am officially on the not o.k. Band wagon.

purplerabbithole said:

Some people might view his behavior as positive and some may view it as negative. My opinion is based on the results of his actions.
[Edited 3/16/17 18:13pm]

rogifan said:

Mayte just announced a book tour. https://twitter.com/mayte...7909663744

I don't have twitter, does it say what cities she'll be in? Hopefully one will be in Kansas City.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

She is doing on purpose and the media is to lazy and stupid to call her out she was not his widow and their is no evidence she was in his life for over 20 years. I wonder what his family is going to say. If he were my brother she would get called out in a major way for her B.S.
[Edited 3/16/17 18:22pm]

Mayte married very young with a rock'n'roll star almost twice her age, lost one child, suffered a miscarriage shortly after, was cheated by him with Mani and finally watched her marriage collapse and ends with an annullment. If she´s not entitled to write a book of her memories with him, I don´t know who else is.

Any opinions can only be given after reading the book. I can only hope it´s well written and makes us feel a little closer to him.

annalizer said:

purplerabbithole said:

He was controlling no doubt. But you forget who gave her away in the first place.

Why would you admire his love for her when you paint it in entirely negative ways. He sculpted her public image; but what do we really know about their private conversations. If her book states that Prince never allowed her to even express her opinions, then a.) I would have to question why she was even there (because most teenagers want to rebel and form their own opinion eventually--that's normal child/adult development.) or b.) I would have to wonder how her parents raised her.

Some people might view his behavior as positive and some may view it as negative. My opinion is based on the results of his actions. [Edited 3/16/17 18:13pm]

Her daddy gave her to Prince just like Priscilla Presley's father gave her to Elvis.

Speaks volumes .

Telecaster5 said:

Mayte married very young with a rock'n'roll star almost twice her age, lost one child, suffered a miscarriage shortly after, was cheated by him with Mani and finally watched her marriage collapse and ends with an annullment. If she´s not entitled to write a book of her memories with him, I don´t know who else is.

Any opinions can only be given after reading the book. I can only hope it´s well written and makes us feel a little closer to him.

It will not and she did not go thru anything loads of other women have dealt with.