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Mayte has the right to tell her side and I support her doing so. Everyone isn't going to support it and that's fine too. Those who don't support her telling her side most certainly don't have to read the book. It's that simple. It's one thing to respectfully disagree, but making judgmental statements regarding Mayte's decision and those who support her or understand her need to tell her story is just a prime example of folks talking loud and saying absolutely nothing. Unfortunately, it's much easier for people to talk a load of BS behind a computer screen that they would never have the balls to say to someone face to face. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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My point is that Prince was very often fine with limiting people's ability to tell their stories. People on here are pointing out that Prince can no longer tell his side, but if that stopped other people from telling that story, he'd be unlike any other great musician in history.
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"Well, it was our life too, pal!" That's what Wendy Melvoin (Out Magazine, 2009) had to say on the subject. She's someone who went through a lot of ups and downs with Prince, and she clearly loves him deeply. | |
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KaresB said:
. --By forced do you mean he put a gun to her head? | |
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Nobody is expecting you to do anything. You are the one who keeps coming on this thread. Nobody is forcing you to talk about Mayte's book, or to keep posting on this thread, or read a bootleg copy. For something you claim to have no interest in, you keep coming back for more. | |
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My point is that Prince was very often fine with limiting people's ability to tell their stories. People on here are pointing out that Prince can no longer tell his side, but if that stopped other people from telling that story, he'd be unlike any other great musician in history.
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"Well, it was our life too, pal!" That's what Wendy Melvoin (Out Magazine, 2009) had to say on the subject. She's someone who went through a lot of ups and downs with Prince, and she clearly loves him deeply. --But he was not able to limit their albilty to speak because they did and quite frankly Wendy was an employee so whatever was going on in his personal life really was none of her business. He made a hugh mistake as a boss by getting to cozy with his employees. [Edited 3/16/17 5:34am] [Edited 3/16/17 5:35am] | |
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I feel for mayte more than you folks realize. I just don't think she was "forced" to do anything. She loved Prince and probably to some extent the lifestyle so went along. Now forcing people to keep his story out of the press doesnt mean they could not have told the entirety of their story to friends and family. Yes I am extremely weary about people running to the press about their lives. An artist exposes themselves but it is in disguise. I just don't understand the need to tell random strangers about your life unless it is to defend yourself and Mayte had nothing to defend. | |
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She wasn't talking about his personal life outside of her personal life. She was talking about experiences that they shared and were, therefore, "our life too." | |
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Like I said before, I have mixed feelings, she has the right to tell her story, you can not argue with that, it is her story. I am not sure who she wrote the book with, but I am thinking they were steering her toward a more tabloid style of writing, which in the excerpts does not come off as loving, it comes off like more important than her story is the sale of the book. Also, I heard mayte herself recorded an audio version of the book. I just can't imagine sitting in an audio both for days and saying all of those words out loud, "I saw the look of horror on his face", even 20 years later I could not get through that. And lastly, I know they are just excerpts, but nothing that was covered in the articles realesed is beautiful, for me the title "the most beautiful" seems about as wrong as possible | |
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rednblue said:
She wasn't talking about his personal life outside of her personal life. She was talking about experiences that they shared and were, therefore, "our life too." No, she was talking about his relationship with Susanna which was none of her business to discuss with media. | |
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Mayte HAS grieved publically for her child. She has given interviews and talked about it in articles. Mayte was on Hollywood Exes openly talking about her child. So you saying that she has not been allowed to mourn is not true. No, she didnt write a book because he shut this book down, however, HE WAS PRINCES SON TOO, why do you act like it was an immaculate conception? . Youre dismissing the fact that she has described the childs birth as a horror show and making excuses for her. You know what? you do that, whatever makes you feel good. Also, you know NOTHING about me and frankly, i dont want to share any losses ive had with the world. Im sorry for yours. She carried a part of Prince in her womb yet divulges this mans reaction to seeing his son for the first time, which is a very private moment. Not once did I say i wont be reading the book,YOU said that. Stop projecting your issues on to me just because i have a different opinion to yours.
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benni said:
I think he did not want to be around her because he did not want to be married in the first place. You cannot make a man settle down if they do not want to be. He was not ready for marriage when he got with her. I do not buy that he was so controlling that she could not leave as in the bootleg copy excerpts that are floating around she is saying he hynoptized her ( do you have any idea how that makes her look !) I am sorry she married a man who was dating her Nona Gaye and Carmen at the same time. If she could not see what was coming with him from that experience that is on her. I am interested in how some of the people she is dragging in the book are going to feel about her putting their personal business out in the street. Is that so she can heal? Because these people are alive and well and it will be interesting to hear what they have to say. [Edited 3/16/17 6:25am] | |
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that kind of reminds me of how mike tyson said "i love the act of treason but i hate a traitor" when one of his old circle wrote a book with obvious lies all throughout it. he was quoting some old time politician. | |
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BillieBalloon said:
Mayte HAS grieved publically for her child. She has given interviews and talked about it in articles. Mayte was on Hollywood Exes openly talking about her child. So you saying that she has not been allowed to mourn is not true. No, she didnt write a book because he shut this book down, however, HE WAS PRINCES SON TOO, why do you act like it was an immaculate conception? . Youre dismissing the fact that she has described the childs birth as a horror show and making excuses for her. You know what? you do that, whatever makes you feel good. Also, you know NOTHING about me and frankly, i dont want to share any losses ive had with the world. Im sorry for yours. She carried a part of Prince in her womb yet divulges this mans reaction to seeing his son for the first time, which is a very private moment. Not once did I say i wont be reading the book,YOU said that. Stop projecting your issues on to me just because i have a different opinion to yours.
Her being on that show is a figment of our imagination. Her crying on her Facebook page for tickets to see him concert that is a figment of our imagination. If someone treated me bad I would not want to be in a 100 foot radius of that person. [Edited 3/16/17 6:33am] | |
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Sooooo you do know that if the final edit of this book is the same as what was leaked, you're okay with us talking about Manuela and how she played into this story, cuz it aint pretty? Since we're all about talking about anything now since Prince is gone.
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Revealing other peoples secrets isn't right just because the circumstances of your life made you privy to those secrets. The wooh is on the one! | |
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Sigh. No. That's not what the quote is about. I hesitated to post a larger quote for better context, but now I'm posting it below. Can you demonstrate how Lisa's quote and the context limit it to Wendy's twin sister? Of course these women mean the world to each other, but to say it's limited to that issue is just SPECULATION.
"Are you hitting a point in your career where things are finally turning around for you?
http://www.out.com/entertainment/2009/04/16/revolution-will-be-harmonized
Please demonstrate that the subject of Lisa's quote and Prince's requests to "err on the side of privacy" are limited to twin sister only, as you are stating. | |
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There have been many a thread over Manuela. She is discussed all the time. | |
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Whew..this is going to be long. I never comment here. Always been a lurker like so many...but not so much since Prince has passed...because quite honestly, what is there to talk about? I wanted to share my thoughts about Mayte's book and the People story because it's been heavy on my heart since reading it yesterday. Everyone has an opinion and I respect whatever choice you make, so please respect mine.
Like I said before, everyone has there opinion and I have mine. If she or her supporters don't want opinions that align with their dreams of a national bestseller, then she shouldn't have opened her self up to ALL opinions by making her story public.
This is how I feel as a Prince fan. Maybe, I will feel different in a couple of years, but because his death is still so fresh...it hurts. Peace to you all. [Edited 3/16/17 7:15am] [Edited 3/16/17 7:18am] | |
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Just scanning a few posts in this thread. Predictably a lot of fans are upset by the honesty of Mayte's account of the birth of their tragic son, and are criticizing it as being told like horror genre (she uses the word "horrified". She described the physicality of his disorder). I think those fans just can't bear to realize that some parts of life, even Mayte's, and even Prince's were as bad as it can get. Even horrific. It's true for anyone. Part of the point of this book is to illuminate that, and for her to finally escape the denial of it (that denial Prince wanted when he was alive). Denial is horrible for psychological health. It's certainly unhealthy for politics, society, and art, and humanity in general. Bad and unpredictable things happen because of denial... in your life too. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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Years ago, the actress Loretta Young gave birth to a child out-of-wedlock. The little girl's biological father was Clark Gable. Ms. Young, some time later, pretended to adopt the child and then presented her as her daughter thereafter. Her daughter learned who her father was when she was older. I bring this story up because we are beyond the era when such secrets can be kept. There is no way Prince's life would remain secret after his death. Everything is going to come out (except that damn autopsy report). It is not just people wanting to cash in; it is the age we are living in. I have no problem with Mayte writing a book about her life with him. | |
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This is the main problem I have with a lot of FANS. Many will think this is nothing more than an attempt to make money off PRINCE. Well lets look at for a moment. To most of the public they did not even know PRINCE was married and divorced once let alone twice, I would say about 95% of the world had no clue he was married again. Also MAYTE could have just done a tell all the day they broke up if she wanted too, she is a free person, she has a voicem, but she did not. Prince's death was difficult for fans but guess what, it was more difficult for those around him and working with him or had relationships with. We need to seriously just chill out and look at that for a moment, YES we miss him and want him here, but guess what, they want it more and hurt more, and half just as many questions as we do.
As for why people do this or that or suddenly now go on tour. Well this is there way of healing, getting out there and being with US makes them feel closer to HIM. So I have no issues with her writing this book, or The Revolution doing a full tour, or whomever wants to go out there and do it, i want them to do what they feel they need to do, so bring on Judith Hill and 3Rd Eye Girl and all of them, and just keep doing what they do, keep him PRESENT in the world. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I do not think he was in a state of denial. According to interviews she did before he was the one that went and had the child cremated and he was the one that told the doctors to not spare any expense to save the child. I think not telling your personal business to Oprah is called being respectful and acting like an adult.
He greived and tried to move on. | |
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I know, my question directed more at Militant. Since that's his "friend". and Mayte made it clear in the copy I saw how it went down. [Edited 3/16/17 7:37am] | |
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