ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I bet that Third Eye wasnt JW sanctioned.

Maybe not, but after 4/21 his local JW elders/pastors publicly stated that he was respected, well loved, would be missed and was in "good standing". If it matters to you...he wasn't under any public sanction by them on 4/21.

Just sayin

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I bet that Third Eye wasnt JW sanctioned.

Man.... you can go back and tell him I said that third eye was creepy!

[Edited 3/11/17 14:27pm]

laurarichardson said:

TurnItUp said:

Like I said get off her ass! All of the haters. If she wants to wrie a book let her! And how do you know if he ever moved on? I don't think he ever did, that's why he drowned himself in countless shows and aftershows.

--He remarried only a few months after they split up and he had the next wife lined up a few years before he was divorced. He was caught getting it on with the mistress( Mani) in a movie theater. How is that not moving on? I never heard him say anything about her publicly and he was never seen with her in public. Mayte got on a T.V. show and continually made a fool out of herself carrying on about him since there no visible evidence that he even cared. [Edited 3/11/17 12:12pm]

If she wanted to do "hollywood exes" there wasn't nothing wrong with it! And if she wanted to mourn and carry on about him she can do that too! Also Mani was NOT a mistress! The episode where Mani and Mayte had lunch together proved that. Your problem is Mayte and Mani have a connection to him that you and I will never have. And why you talking if you was them you'd probably be writing a book on him too!

[Edited 3/11/17 19:20pm]

laytonian said:

ladygirl99 said:

Yup. He knew and he planned....

. No. She didn't say he said it that way. Tyka gave two opposing interviews, broadcast on the same day. Watch them. In one she said she was surprised and just starting to get over it. In the other, she said she was not surprised. . And quit being angry. . We know very little of the truth. It's silly to keep making stuff up. .

You the one making up shit and won't accept the truth. Tyka said plain as day he said "I think I've done everything". He told us on ArtOfficial Age. We didn't know him personally. That's your problem. It don't matter if he wasn't close to Tyka or his other siblings. They were still his family. It don't matter what anyone thinks of Mayte, that was still his ex-wife and almost mother of his child.

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[Edited 3/11/17 19:21pm]

ladygirl99 said:

laytonian said:

ladygirl99 said: . No. She didn't say he said it that way. Tyka gave two opposing interviews, broadcast on the same day. Watch them. In one she said she was surprised and just starting to get over it. In the other, she said she was not surprised. . And quit being angry. . We know very little of the truth. It's silly to keep making stuff up. .

I dont care what your opinion is I stand by what I said and my opinions based on my observation on Prince during his final months and the interviews from the people who actually KNEW him. Just because someone is contradicting doesn't mean they are lying. Maybe Tyka is just like Prince of not very comfortable when it comes to doing interviews. Some people are socially nervous or have anxiety.

Until fans have actually met Prince, I am going to listen to their cryptic quotes from his family and associates until they feel more comfortable of telling what happen. Yes I wish someone of them would stop with the cryptic shit but their cryptic quotes alone holds more weight than fans entire gibbish paragraphs yet never met the man himself.

And who is angry? I think you got me mixed up with someone else. I am not angry. Why should I be mad about events beyond my control?

Go ladygirl99. Cosign. Except I am angry. (ha)

Lovejunky said:

LBrent said:

Maybe it was a part of the list of postmortem instructions P left...along with the instructions for PP.

Nothing would suprise me anymore

Exactly.

daKotaGeNesis said:

oliviacamron said:

Yep

I am in agreement with Steve Harvey's Act like a woman, Think like Man.

And Warn a Brother definitely goes with his book.

I'm glad I'm just a friend....
All I can feel is the happiness being in my own shoes instead of their shoes....

LBrent said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I bet that Third Eye wasnt JW sanctioned.

Maybe not, but after 4/21 his local JW elders/pastors publicly stated that he was respected, well loved, would be missed and was in "good standing". If it matters to you...he wasn't under any public sanction by them on 4/21.

Just sayin

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I think Prince seem to live in the moment and worked to make each day meaningful. Prince did not talk his bussiness like how other celebs do, so now we are getting second hand accounts.

joytotheworld said:

LBrent said:

Awww.

As if he didn't have enough on his mind...then to lose V.

Before anyone pounces on that sentiment, yes V's my fav P protege cuz I'm old as eff and remember that all as it happened and no, I'm not implying that V dying devastated P and caused 4/21.

Whatever.

He had many relationships and this was long ago, but clearly her dying had an effect on him evenafter all that time.

I feel defensive making a simple Awww cuz folks have been picking at simple comments lately. Ugh

<deep breath>

Anyway...Awww, poor P.

He was looking frail long before Vanity's death. It was mentioned by Jill Jones perhaps, when he attended vanity's funeral. I am old as eff as well so understand, altho i have a different fav as a protege. He looked like a strong wind would blow him away. Almost a year later and I still wonder

Yes to this, anyone who has clear vision could see that. It's nothing to do with any of his women nor anyone else, it's all about him. Saying otherwise is just trying to romanticize the situation when it's not needed.

Mumio said:

joytotheworld said:

He was looking frail long before Vanity's death. It was mentioned by Jill Jones perhaps, when he attended vanity's funeral. I am old as eff as well so understand, altho i have a different fav as a protege. He looked like a strong wind would blow him away. Almost a year later and I still wonder

Yes to this, anyone who has clear vision could see that. It's nothing to do with any of his women nor anyone else, it's all about him. Saying otherwise is just trying to romanticize the situation when it's not needed.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I'm with you!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LBrent said:

Maybe not, but after 4/21 his local JW elders/pastors publicly stated that he was respected, well loved, would be missed and was in "good standing". If it matters to you...he wasn't under any public sanction by them on 4/21.

Just sayin

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I dont think it would do their organisation any good to Renounce Prince.

As hardcore as they are, the Lotus, the Third eye, the Mandalas, the references to re incarnation (Dolphin..he was singing it until the last ) would not have sat well..However I believe they were prepared to IGNORE all that in order to remain associated with him...

Ultimately PRINCE has more pulling power than the JW,s because the connection to GOD he shares with us , and ecourages us to seek is INCLUSIVE whereas most other religions require you to declare allegience to some particular belief, JESUS is the ONLY WAY (Christianity ) THe Stavros as opposed to the Crucification (JW) The Day of Worship (7th day adventists)..I could go on...but essentially these minute details are d i v i s i v e

Prince was essentially HINDU , the essence of which is to Develop a loving relationship with God through service the Path of Bhakti.

( if you have not studied comparative you will have no idea of what I am talking about, so I will ignore your negativity )

Its known as Sanatana Dharma or the Eternal religion and is identified by a mans Behaviour and NOT his declarations..

Prince was all about "LOVE GOD"

We need to follow THAT path and all will be good in the world....

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LBrent said:

Maybe not, but after 4/21 his local JW elders/pastors publicly stated that he was respected, well loved, would be missed and was in "good standing". If it matters to you...he wasn't under any public sanction by them on 4/21.

Just sayin

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

Tyka and the rest of the Nelsons I believe are not JWs.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LBrent said:

Maybe not, but after 4/21 his local JW elders/pastors publicly stated that he was respected, well loved, would be missed and was in "good standing". If it matters to you...he wasn't under any public sanction by them on 4/21.

Just sayin

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

TurnItUp said:

laurarichardson said:

TurnItUp said: --He remarried only a few months after they split up and he had the next wife lined up a few years before he was divorced. He was caught getting it on with the mistress( Mani) in a movie theater. How is that not moving on? I never heard him say anything about her publicly and he was never seen with her in public. Mayte got on a T.V. show and continually made a fool out of herself carrying on about him since there no visible evidence that he even cared. [Edited 3/11/17 12:12pm]

If she wanted to do "hollywood exes" there wasn't nothing wrong with it! And whe wanted to mourn and carry on about him she can too that too! Also Mani was NOT a mistress! The episode where they had lunch Mani and Mayte had lunch together proved that. Your problem is Mayte and Mani have connection to him that you will never have. And why you talking if you was them you'd probably be writing a book on him too!

Use the serch key or do some internet searching he was seeing Mani ( Mani is in the Come On video) as early as 98 and Mayte talks about it in the book confirming the whole mistress stituation. We all commented on this board how crazy Mayte was for having lunch with M2. In the book she trashes M2 so I do not think they are going to be friends any longer.

Everything I am saying is true.

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I dont think it would do their organisation any good to Renounce Prince.

As hardcore as they are, the Lotus, the Third eye, the Mandalas, the references to re incarnation (Dolphin..he was singing it until the last ) would not have sat well..However I believe they were prepared to IGNORE all that in order to remain associated with him...

Ultimately PRINCE has more pulling power than the JW,s because the connection to GOD he shares with us , and ecourages us to seek is INCLUSIVE whereas most other religions require you to declare allegience to some particular belief, JESUS is the ONLY WAY (Christianity ) THe Stavros as opposed to the Crucification (JW) The Day of Worship (7th day adventists)..I could go on...but essentially these minute details are d i v i s i v e

Prince was essentially HINDU , the essence of which is to Develop a loving relationship with God through service the Path of Bhakti.

( if you have not studied comparative you will have no idea of what I am talking about, so I will ignore your negativity )

Its known as Sanatana Dharma or the Eternal religion and is identified by a mans Behaviour and NOT his declarations..

Prince was all about "LOVE GOD"

We need to follow THAT path and all will be good in the world....

Why not? They certainly did with MJ back in the day after thriller was deemed not in line with JW beleifs about spiritism/demonism, etc.

LBrent said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

Tyka did say on her Facebook page she could not do any more memorial services.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

Tyka did say on her Facebook page she could not do any more memorial services.

Exactly.

It must've been emotionally draining.

LBrent said:

Lovejunky said:

I dont think it would do their organisation any good to Renounce Prince.

As hardcore as they are, the Lotus, the Third eye, the Mandalas, the references to re incarnation (Dolphin..he was singing it until the last ) would not have sat well..However I believe they were prepared to IGNORE all that in order to remain associated with him...

Ultimately PRINCE has more pulling power than the JW,s because the connection to GOD he shares with us , and ecourages us to seek is INCLUSIVE whereas most other religions require you to declare allegience to some particular belief, JESUS is the ONLY WAY (Christianity ) THe Stavros as opposed to the Crucification (JW) The Day of Worship (7th day adventists)..I could go on...but essentially these minute details are d i v i s i v e

Prince was essentially HINDU , the essence of which is to Develop a loving relationship with God through service the Path of Bhakti.

( if you have not studied comparative you will have no idea of what I am talking about, so I will ignore your negativity )

Its known as Sanatana Dharma or the Eternal religion and is identified by a mans Behaviour and NOT his declarations..

Prince was all about "LOVE GOD"

We need to follow THAT path and all will be good in the world....

Why not? They certainly did with MJ back in the day after thriller was deemed not in line with JW beleifs about spiritism/demonism, etc.

They could have but they had really good things to say about him in the interview the elder did for CNN.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

Why not? They certainly did with MJ back in the day after thriller was deemed not in line with JW beleifs about spiritism/demonism, etc.

They could have but they had really good things to say about him in the interview the elder did for CNN.

I didn't know any JW elders commented regarding MJ's death but it was nice that they were gracious in speaking about him cuz back in the day I remember that the Thriller video caused a huge JW fuss. HUGE.

And it's been widely reported in mainstream magazines that MJ was very upset at their response and he cried over it.

[Edited 3/11/17 18:56pm]

laurarichardson said:

TurnItUp said:

If she wanted to do "hollywood exes" there wasn't nothing wrong with it! And whe wanted to mourn and carry on about him she can too that too! Also Mani was NOT a mistress! The episode where they had lunch Mani and Mayte had lunch together proved that. Your problem is Mayte and Mani have connection to him that you will never have. And why you talking if you was them you'd probably be writing a book on him too!

Use the serch key or do some internet searching he was seeing Mani ( Mani is in the Come On video) as early as 98 and Mayte talks about it in the book confirming the whole mistress stituation. We all commented on this board how crazy Mayte was for having lunch with M2. In the book she trashes M2 so I do not think they are going to be friends any longer.

Everything I am saying is true.

Did you read the book already?

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

Tyka did say on her Facebook page she could not do any more memorial services.

Tyka attended two memorial services AFTER the JW service.

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I'm with you!

So what he didn't attend his parents funeral. I just found out that he wanted to cremate his father but his family didn't and so John wasn't cremated. So what if you don't get your way, attend your father's memorial/funeral. But just like that was his choice, that was Tyka's choice. Don't make Prince an exception.

[Edited 3/12/17 9:00am]

laurarichardson said:

TurnItUp said:

If she wanted to do "hollywood exes" there wasn't nothing wrong with it! And whe wanted to mourn and carry on about him she can too that too! Also Mani was NOT a mistress! The episode where they had lunch Mani and Mayte had lunch together proved that. Your problem is Mayte and Mani have connection to him that you will never have. And why you talking if you was them you'd probably be writing a book on him too!

Use the serch key or do some internet searching he was seeing Mani ( Mani is in the Come On video) as early as 98 and Mayte talks about it in the book confirming the whole mistress stituation. We all commented on this board how crazy Mayte was for having lunch with M2. In the book she trashes M2 so I do not think they are going to be friends any longer.

Everything I am saying is true. :-?Good luck with that.

I'll do the research and we'll see it's true.

[Edited 3/12/17 8:57am]

[Edited 3/12/17 9:02am]

TurnItUp said:

laurarichardson said:

Use the serch key or do some internet searching he was seeing Mani ( Mani is in the Come On video) as early as 98 and Mayte talks about it in the book confirming the whole mistress stituation. We all commented on this board how crazy Mayte was for having lunch with M2. In the book she trashes M2 so I do not think they are going to be friends any longer.

Everything I am saying is true.

I'll do the research and we'll see it's true.

Sorry, Mani was his ho on the side when he was still married to Mayte.

LBrent said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that come from?

There is a reason Tyka didnt attend his JW Memorial.

Just saying.

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

LBrent! You really took this to a different level so now i need to respond.

I am NOT saying anything negative toward JWs.

What I am saying is that it is difficult to reconcile P using the Third Eye, astral projection, and using metaphysical lyrics the past three years or so as a "practicing JW."

Let's face the facts...any man wearing make-up as a JW would have been banished from the JWs pronto!

Additionally, JWs do not accept the cross, or Christmas, or other symbolism so I think they would have a problem with the Third Eye. You cannot reconcile The Third Eye with JW.

So...I have lots of questions with no answers.

If you have any answers, please help me to understand.

Seriously.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LBrent said:

I never said that you said it, but I see folks imply things about JWs in regards to P and I alo see the resentment in the implications.

I doubt the remarks would be made or would be tolerated if he'd been Catholic/Jewish, etc.

Tyka is his sister and practiced another religion and it was her right to attend if she chose to or her right to not attend if she chose not to without there being a malicious reason. She was in mourning, not making the rounds at a social event. As a fan she didn't need to feel obligated to explain her reasons to me.

I get it though...there are those who will always see a negative even if none exists.

Carry on.

LBrent! You really took this to a different level so now i need to respond.

I am NOT saying anything negative toward JWs.

What I am saying is that it is difficult to reconcile P using the Third Eye, astral projection, and using metaphysical lyrics the past three years or so as a "practicing JW."

Let's face the facts...any man wearing make-up as a JW would have been banished from the JWs pronto!

Additionally, JWs do not accept the cross, or Christmas, or other symbolism so I think they would have a problem with the Third Eye. You cannot reconcile The Third Eye with JW.

So...I have lots of questions with no answers.

If you have any answers, please help me to understand.

Seriously.

Actually, the answers you seek are simple...Everything you've mentioned is coming from your perception of what was going on with the JW organization in regards to P's relationship with them. And as I've seen others make snarky comments about, the assumption is that they were "letting him slide cuz he was a celeb". What I'm attempting to point out is that that isn't necessaroly the case because if he were doing something the organization felt was sanctionable and if he had been sanctioned by 4/21 he was "in good standing" by their own statements.

Your assumptions are erroneous. There are no sanction regarding what you've mentioned. None.

Now, you may think there should've been or you may assume that JWs allow this or that, but the fact is that you don't know what P may or may not have been councilled about in terms of his songs, personal grooming, lifestyle or anything else as it pertains to being JW.

He may have been curious about many things an exploring many things, but unless his JW elders tell you personally that they didn't approve, you are simply assuming what or how the JW organization felt...so I reiterated what his local elders stated after4/21...P was in "good standing" with them.

Why is a complete stranger's spiritual exploration so hard for people to accept when his own spiritual leaders and mentors state he was "in good standing"?

I don't understand why folks feel some way about the beliefs he voluntarily chose. It's not as if he was kidnapped and held hostage. Sheesh.

He even joked in a performance that he had nothing better to do than play his hits until the audience got tired cuz he didn't have worship until 11:30am then the rest of his day was free. He wasn't behaving like he was embarrassed to be JW, but I notice certain folks seem to resent or be embarrassed for him becoming JW as if it reflects on them somehow. Like he became a leper or something.

If it made him happy and he felt satisfied, regardless of whatever else he felt as far as exploring spirituality in other ways, he didn't leave the JWs and he certainly could have.

So why all the snark from folks? Would folks be as snarky if he were any other religion?

I'm not religious by a far sight, but if he was happy being JW then I'm happy for him.