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Reply #210 posted 03/11/17 9:33pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Rogi...just enjoy Palm Springs and stay out of the fray

rogifan said:

Wow this has gotten far away from Shelby's interview. eek

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Reply #211 posted 03/11/17 10:01pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Tyka did say on her Facebook page she could not do any more memorial services.

Tyka attended two memorial services AFTER the JW service.

I believe her Facebook post was after those two. There was a service in NY in front of the Apollo. I think she did not go to the JW service because she is not a JW.

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Reply #212 posted 03/11/17 10:05pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Use the serch key or do some internet searching he was seeing Mani ( Mani is in the Come On video) as early as 98 and Mayte talks about it in the book confirming the whole mistress stituation. We all commented on this board how crazy Mayte was for having lunch with M2. In the book she trashes M2 so I do not think they are going to be friends any longer.

Everything I am saying is true.

Did you read the book already?

Their are excepts out on the net. If this version is the real version and not something that is unedited people are going to flip.

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Reply #213 posted 03/11/17 10:24pm

LBrent

rogifan said:

Wow this has gotten far away from Shelby's interview. eek

I think it kinda branched off from Shelby's comments about her feeling that P knew his time was nearing an end...that brought on comments regarding Tyka's comments about the same thing...which somehow morphed into P being JW...

A circuitous route to where we ended up. Lol

confused

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Reply #214 posted 03/11/17 10:58pm

purplepoppy

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Did you read the book already?

Their are excepts out on the net. If this version is the real version and not something that is unedited people are going to flip.

Someone started a thread about it but it got axed.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #215 posted 03/12/17 6:00am

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jaawwnn said:

Lovejunky said:

YES.....

THis is

TRUTH

I dont think they are reporting what was ailing him due to some mistaken idea about protecting his Privacy...

I'm afraid it's actually interpretation.

I do agree the 3rd eye opening and the tear just after that (IIRC) was freaky as hell when he died though.

[Edited 3/9/17 21:41pm]

It's interpretation most definitely .

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Reply #216 posted 03/12/17 6:56am

Identity







The tear was posthumously added, correct? It's not present in the original Twitter avatar.

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Reply #217 posted 03/12/17 7:41am

joytotheworld

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Hmmm I see it also. That could have a couple of meanings...oh P.

If you are referring to the c's and u's at chest level....believe it's supposed to be chest hair.

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Reply #218 posted 03/12/17 8:59am

TurnItUp

rogifan said:

Wow this has gotten far away from Shelby's interview. eek

Isn't it always? It's the org.

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Reply #219 posted 03/12/17 9:36am

delirious

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

ladygirl99 said: . No. She didn't say he said it that way. Tyka gave two opposing interviews, broadcast on the same day. Watch them. In one she said she was surprised and just starting to get over it. In the other, she said she was not surprised. . And quit being angry. . We know very little of the truth. It's silly to keep making stuff up. .

We are not making up anything.

http://www.etonline.com/news/199676_exclusive_prince_sister_tyka_nelson_says_she_knew_his_death_was_coming_i_ve_been_preparing_for_two_years/

EXCLUSIVE: Prince's Sister Tyka Nelson Says She Knew His Death Was Coming: 'I've Been Preparing for Two Years'

by Raphael Chestang 4:22 PM PDT, October 05, 2016

Prince's tragic death shocked the world earlier this year, but the musician's sister, Tyka Nelson, told ET she expected it.

"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."

WATCH: Inside Prince's Pa...an Museum

Five months after Prince's death, ET gained access to the music icon's Paisley Park compound in Minnesota, where we caught up with Nelson before the property opens its doors to the public as a museum.

According to Nelson, Prince hinted to her that his life was winding down.

"He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,'" she recalled. "I was crushed for about two years."

PICS: Inside Prince's Paisley Park

Nelson had a message for the millions of fans who are still having a hard time getting over the GRAMMY winner's death.

"I've had two years to deal with it, but there's a lot of people that have only had from April to now, so I guess I would say give it another year and a half and maybe you'll be where I'm at," she said. "I'm sorry that you're hurting."

While the man is no longer with us, his body of work remains, and Nelson has vowed to keep Prince's legacy alive through his music.

"He's written a massive amount of music and in one of our conversations, he said, 'How I want to be remembered is as one of the most prolific writers in the world,'" Nelson recalled. "So I'm going to do everything that I can to make that dream come true."

According to the BBC documentary, Hunting for Prince's Vault, the legendary artist could have as many as 2,000 unreleased songs locked away in a vault. Nelson intends for fans to get to hear the music.

WATCH: Inside Prince's Pa...ic Estate

"We're going to pull it up and we're going to remix it and we're going to get it out," she said.

When the Paisley Park museum official opens on Thursday, tourists will be able to step inside of Prince's private world, which includes artifacts from the 1984 film Purple Rain, his recording studio and his private diner.

How much plain do you want her to be? Also stop saying people are angry when you do not like what they have to say.

So he knew for 2 years and didn't leave a will? She didn't go public with any of these concerns while he was still alive? This all seems like regressive posturing to me...

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Reply #220 posted 03/12/17 9:38am

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Regarding some of the supposed symbolism being discussed...

The 3rd eye avatar was first used in artwork for the June 2015 3rdEyeGirl concert in Washington, DC...

https://twitter.com/RedFo...7673711616

On twitter, that pic was being used at least as far back as March 25, 2016. The tear appeared when Prince had to cancel the Atlanta concert, and disappeared when he rescheduled it. See these links for confirmation of dates...

http://prince.org/msg/7/423024
http://prince.org/msg/7/422992
http://princevault.com/in...ril_2016-1
http://web.archive.org/we...com/prince


As for the backward clothes, Militant had this to say...


http://prince.org/msg/7/4...&pg=47
Reply #1399

Regarding the clothes thing - I too thought it was weird at first, but Lala Escarzega just told me that Prince regularly wore his lounge clothes backwards because he didn't like v-necks. She said he would regularly wear both his shirts and pants backwards when he was lounging or relaxing.

So given that information from someone who was very close to him, it's not strange or suspicious at all.


Also, here's a story from Prince's hairdresser that mentions him putting on a shirt backwards... https://www.instagram.com...OuhPBjy3i/

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Reply #221 posted 03/12/17 9:52am

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laytonian said:

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My opinion? Our man was paranoid about aging, which is why he constant mentioned AVOIDING it.
By the time he realized he'd worn his tiny bones down, it was too late.
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I am older than most here and know that as we age, we feel the body change. He wore his down more than I've worn mine .
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Was he dying? Likely not. But when he turned 55, that seemed to be the number that disquieted him. He wrote June. He talked more about his life. That is normal. As much as you live in the now, you have more to look back on.
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He was doing his best. He had plans. But he was intelligent and saw life changing. Unfortunately, he had found a way to avoid the physical pain.
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My opinion.
.


:yeahthat:

Also: There is nothing in Mayte's book that hasn't already been revealed or reported over the years.
The JW thing was an awkward period. It was hard to reconcile when it seemed he found the permission in his faith to become involved with another woman and ultimately end his current marriage. And the fact that LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard. Those things alone gave me more than enough reason to feel JW was not a healthy presence in Prince's life. That's putting it mildly.

As far as Shelby goes I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly fond of his band set ups that include her or Liv or any of the arsenal of background singers over the years. But I get why he did it, and probably had to do it as he got older and unable to carry a show alone.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #222 posted 03/12/17 10:36am

ladygirl99

laytonian said:

. Ladygirl99: I actually was replying to someone else. This forum isn't Android friendly. MT DEEPEST APOLOGIES. Turninup: it was for you.

Oh okay, apology accepted. thumbs up!

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Reply #223 posted 03/12/17 11:12am

Identity

sonshine said: LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard.



Say what? I was not aware of this incident. That's low.

What's that expression? Oh, yeah. "Be careful what you do to others..."

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Reply #224 posted 03/12/17 11:36am

Misslink88

sonshine said:

laytonian said:
. My opinion? Our man was paranoid about aging, which is why he constant mentioned AVOIDING it. By the time he realized he'd worn his tiny bones down, it was too late. . I am older than most here and know that as we age, we feel the body change. He wore his down more than I've worn mine . . Was he dying? Likely not. But when he turned 55, that seemed to be the number that disquieted him. He wrote June. He talked more about his life. That is normal. As much as you live in the now, you have more to look back on. . He was doing his best. He had plans. But he was intelligent and saw life changing. Unfortunately, he had found a way to avoid the physical pain. . My opinion. .
yeahthat Also: There is nothing in Mayte's book that hasn't already been revealed or reported over the years. The JW thing was an awkward period. It was hard to reconcile when it seemed he found the permission in his faith to become involved with another woman and ultimately end his current marriage. And the fact that LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard. Those things alone gave me more than enough reason to feel JW was not a healthy presence in Prince's life. That's putting it mildly. As far as Shelby goes I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly fond of his band set ups that include her or Liv or any of the arsenal of background singers over the years. But I get why he did it, and probably had to do it as he got older and unable to carry a show alone.

Just a few things.

What has been reported and stated by P himself was that they had "agreed" to annul their marriage by May of 1999. Mayte lived in Spain at the time. The marriage was over.

http://people.com/celebrity/artist-wife-annul-marriage/

P did not convert to JW until sometime in 2003. I'm guessing the bonfire took place prior to his conversion.

http://people.com/celebrity/prince-dead-jehovahs-witness-church-release-statement/

If P could not carry a show alone, how do you explain the success and glowing reviews of P&M shows?

(I still can't figure out how to separate paragraphs on these posts!)

God is my Sugar Daddy.
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Reply #225 posted 03/12/17 12:05pm

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Identity said:

sonshine said: LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard.



Say what? I was not aware of this incident. That's low.

What's that expression? Oh, yeah. "Be careful what you do to others..."

In the divorce filings with M2 there was a transcript of a PM between M2 and P and she asked him

if he burned her personal belongings like he did to M1 in LG backyard.

eek

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Reply #226 posted 03/12/17 12:11pm

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Just a thought on the third eye

So it seems he switched from using his symbol (2014 on his microphone) to using the third eye...IMO he was aware and letting them (WB) know once again he was not happy with once again their failure to hold up to their end of the agreement.
He was telling us on social media to boycott WB
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Reply #227 posted 03/12/17 1:01pm

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delirious said:



laurarichardson said:




laytonian said:


ladygirl99 said: . No. She didn't say he said it that way. Tyka gave two opposing interviews, broadcast on the same day. Watch them. In one she said she was surprised and just starting to get over it. In the other, she said she was not surprised. . And quit being angry. . We know very little of the truth. It's silly to keep making stuff up. .

We are not making up anything.



http://www.etonline.com/news/199676_exclusive_prince_sister_tyka_nelson_says_she_knew_his_death_was_coming_i_ve_been_preparing_for_two_years/


EXCLUSIVE: Prince's Sister Tyka Nelson Says She Knew His Death Was Coming: 'I've Been Preparing for Two Years'


by Raphael Chestang 4:22 PM PDT, October 05, 2016






Prince's tragic death shocked the world earlier this year, but the musician's sister, Tyka Nelson, told ET she expected it.



"It wasn't hard at all," Nelson said about coming to grips with Prince's death. "It was a two-word phone call: 'He's gone.' And I knew who he meant. I hung up the phone. An employee of Prince called. I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming."


WATCH: Inside Prince's Pa...an Museum


Five months after Prince's death, ET gained access to the music icon's Paisley Park compound in Minnesota, where we caught up with Nelson before the property opens its doors to the public as a museum.


According to Nelson, Prince hinted to her that his life was winding down.


"He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,'" she recalled. "I was crushed for about two years."


PICS: Inside Prince's Paisley Park


Nelson had a message for the millions of fans who are still having a hard time getting over the GRAMMY winner's death.


"I've had two years to deal with it, but there's a lot of people that have only had from April to now, so I guess I would say give it another year and a half and maybe you'll be where I'm at," she said. "I'm sorry that you're hurting."


While the man is no longer with us, his body of work remains, and Nelson has vowed to keep Prince's legacy alive through his music.


"He's written a massive amount of music and in one of our conversations, he said, 'How I want to be remembered is as one of the most prolific writers in the world,'" Nelson recalled. "So I'm going to do everything that I can to make that dream come true."


According to the BBC documentary, Hunting for Prince's Vault, the legendary artist could have as many as 2,000 unreleased songs locked away in a vault. Nelson intends for fans to get to hear the music.


WATCH: Inside Prince's Pa...ic Estate


"We're going to pull it up and we're going to remix it and we're going to get it out," she said.


When the Paisley Park museum official opens on Thursday, tourists will be able to step inside of Prince's private world, which includes artifacts from the 1984 film Purple Rain, his recording studio and his private diner.





How much plain do you want her to be? Also stop saying people are angry when you do not like what they have to say.







So he knew for 2 years and didn't leave a will? She didn't go public with any of these concerns while he was still alive? This all seems like regressive posturing to me...



Maybe he had plans to make a will and did not plan on dropping dead in April. In addition why would his sister go public personal information.
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Reply #228 posted 03/12/17 1:02pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Just a thought on the third eye

So it seems he switched from using his symbol (2014 on his microphone) to using the third eye...IMO he was aware and letting them (WB) know once again he was not happy with once again their failure to hold up to their end of the agreement.
He was telling us on social media to boycott WB

--What does the Third Eye have to do with WB?
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Reply #229 posted 03/12/17 1:07pm

daKotaGeNesis

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Just a thought on the third eye

So it seems he switched from using his symbol (2014 on his microphone) to using the third eye...IMO he was aware and letting them (WB) know once again he was not happy with once again their failure to hold up to their end of the agreement.
He was telling us on social media to boycott WB

Good point PurpleDiamond1
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Reply #230 posted 03/12/17 1:09pm

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sonshine said:

laytonian said:

.
My opinion? Our man was paranoid about aging, which is why he constant mentioned AVOIDING it.
By the time he realized he'd worn his tiny bones down, it was too late.
.
I am older than most here and know that as we age, we feel the body change. He wore his down more than I've worn mine .
.
Was he dying? Likely not. But when he turned 55, that seemed to be the number that disquieted him. He wrote June. He talked more about his life. That is normal. As much as you live in the now, you have more to look back on.
.
He was doing his best. He had plans. But he was intelligent and saw life changing. Unfortunately, he had found a way to avoid the physical pain.
.
My opinion.
.


yeahthat

Also: There is nothing in Mayte's book that hasn't already been revealed or reported over the years.
The JW thing was an awkward period. It was hard to reconcile when it seemed he found the permission in his faith to become involved with another woman and ultimately end his current marriage. And the fact that LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard. Those things alone gave me more than enough reason to feel JW was not a healthy presence in Prince's life. That's putting it mildly.

As far as Shelby goes I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly fond of his band set ups that include her or Liv or any of the arsenal of background singers over the years. But I get why he did it, and probably had to do it as he got older and unable to carry a show alone.

--What are you talking about? The stuff was burned in LG backyard because LG lived in a home Prince owned. No one said LG say anything on fire. He was not a JW until after they divorced and even if he was JWs can get divorced just like anybody else. There are things in Mayte's book that have not been reported before ( like he hyponized her LOL) As far as not being able to carrying a show by himself how did he pull those mic shows off. He had those girls singing because they could really sing which was a welcome change of pace for him.
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Reply #231 posted 03/12/17 1:14pm

daKotaGeNesis

LBrent said:[quote]



Lovejunky said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



I didnt say P was under "public sanction" by the JWs. Where did that



I dont think it would do their organisation any good to Renounce Prince.



As hardcore as they are, the Lotus, the Third eye, the Mandalas, the references to re incarnation (Dolphin..he was singing it until the last ) would not have sat well..However I believe they were prepared to IGNORE all that in order to remain associated with him...



Ultimately PRINCE has more pulling power than the JW,s because the connection to GOD he shares with us , and ecourages us to seek is INCLUSIVE

I totally understand your thoughts on Inclusion....

Prince was all about "LOVE GOD"



We need to follow THAT path and all will be good in the world....


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Wouldn't it be fantastic if we all were inclusive like the God Prince is introducing us to!!!
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Reply #232 posted 03/12/17 1:38pm

rogifan

sonshine said:

laytonian said:

.
My opinion? Our man was paranoid about aging, which is why he constant mentioned AVOIDING it.
By the time he realized he'd worn his tiny bones down, it was too late.
.
I am older than most here and know that as we age, we feel the body change. He wore his down more than I've worn mine .
.
Was he dying? Likely not. But when he turned 55, that seemed to be the number that disquieted him. He wrote June. He talked more about his life. That is normal. As much as you live in the now, you have more to look back on.
.
He was doing his best. He had plans. But he was intelligent and saw life changing. Unfortunately, he had found a way to avoid the physical pain.
.
My opinion.
.


yeahthat

Also: There is nothing in Mayte's book that hasn't already been revealed or reported over the years.
The JW thing was an awkward period. It was hard to reconcile when it seemed he found the permission in his faith to become involved with another woman and ultimately end his current marriage. And the fact that LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard. Those things alone gave me more than enough reason to feel JW was not a healthy presence in Prince's life. That's putting it mildly.

As far as Shelby goes I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly fond of his band set ups that include her or Liv or any of the arsenal of background singers over the years. But I get why he did it, and probably had to do it as he got older and unable to carry a show alone.
so you take someone's comments with a grain of salt because you weren't a fan of them as band members? WTF?
[Edited 3/12/17 13:39pm]
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Reply #233 posted 03/12/17 1:52pm

laytonian

Identity said:



sonshine said: LG was put on a pedestal and regarded as this great spiritual mentor yet he was directly involved with the burning of Mayte's personal belongings in his yard.



Say what? I was not aware of this incident. That's low.


What's that expression? Oh, yeah. "Be careful what you do to others..."


.
MY question about LG is:
Where was he that last week when P was in deep trouble?
If he knew anything at all, why didn't he go to him?
Were they not communicating?
If LG was the great spiritual mentor, why was he not called to help when it was known no one could get there until the next day?
I don't get it.
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #234 posted 03/12/17 2:13pm

SoulAlive

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Identity said:



Say what? I was not aware of this incident. That's low.

What's that expression? Oh, yeah. "Be careful what you do to others..."

In the divorce filings with M2 there was a transcript of a PM between M2 and P and she asked him

if he burned her personal belongings like he did to M1 in LG backyard.

eek

eek disbelief smh

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Reply #235 posted 03/12/17 2:17pm

PurpleDiamonds
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laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Just a thought on the third eye

So it seems he switched from using his symbol (2014 on his microphone) to using the third eye...IMO he was aware and letting them (WB) know once again he was not happy with once again their failure to hold up to their end of the agreement.
He was telling us on social media to boycott WB

--What does the Third Eye have to do with WB?

Third eye had a similar meaning to WB as his symbol but the third eye was meaning he was aware and letting all know of his visions.
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Reply #236 posted 03/12/17 2:35pm

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I don't believe Prince would've thrown a party at Paisley to try to alleviate concerns, made plans well in to the summer and most crucially, passed away without a will or even the vaguest of instructions if he 'knew his time was limited.'
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Reply #237 posted 03/12/17 3:35pm

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yeahthat
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Reply #238 posted 03/12/17 4:10pm

LBrent

The wonderful thing about reality is...

Not believing something happened doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

Not believing something exists doesn't mean that it didn't exist.

wink cool


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Reply #239 posted 03/12/17 4:19pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:


--What does the Third Eye have to do with WB?

Third eye had a similar meaning to WB as his symbol but the third eye was meaning he was aware and letting all know of his visions.

--That is your interpretation. Prince simply signed a deal with them to get masters back is obligations were just about over with and WB music has been sold twice to private equity groups do it is not the same company he dealt with 20 years ago.
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