laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Wow. Prince was into symbolism. I'm amazed you can't see that... actually i'm not amazed. You've never changed your mind on anything.

--I understand that Prince was into symbolism and that he used the elevator as symbol of going to hell however, what does that have to do with becoming deadly ill and collasping in the elavator. Do you think he planned the exact time and place were he was going to die. I want you to think about that for a minute.

It wasn't just that. It was the backwards clothes found on him in the elevator. The impression Tyka gave of him seemingly having a mid-life crisis 2 years prior, quoting 'I've done everything I've come here to do'. Those aren't the words you'd expect from someone who's got another couple of gears to move through. So maybe there was an underlying health issue, physical, mental, drug-related. We don't know bc he was too private. And in answer to your last point, yeah I do believe early hours of 21 April he knew.

jaawwnn said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said: --I understand that Prince was into symbolism and that he used the elevator as symbol of going to hell however, what does that have to do with becoming deadly ill and collasping in the elavator. Do you think he planned the exact time and place were he was going to die. I want you to think about that for a minute.

It wasn't just that. It was the backwards clothes found on him in the elevator. The impression Tyka gave of him seemingly having a mid-life crisis 2 years prior, quoting 'I've done everything I've come here to do'. Those aren't the words you'd expect from someone who's got another couple of gears to move through. So maybe there was an underlying health issue, physical, mental, drug-related. We don't know bc he was too private. And in answer to your last point, yeah I do believe early hours of 21 April he knew.

I believe he was ill but I do not believe he planned to die in the elevator. The backward clothes came from an unamed source so we do not know if that is even true. I think he was ill and maybe trying to get help or just collasped as he was walking. I do not think when people are ill they have in their mind some symbolism. I also do not think he committed suicide. He may have told Tyka he did everything he wanted to do because he was sick and knew he days were numbered and was at peace with it. She also said she knew two years ahead. In my mind this means illness.

As Shelby said "prince was far ahead of all of us" and I believe that too, he was on this whole other level. Yes he was a human being with feelings but he was on another path. Remember this was a man that spent a whole lot of time alone and had time to thing everything through. I know we want to say he should have NOT been so private but he was not, he told you what you needed to know or he felt you needed to know, his music. HOnestly the rest was none of our business. We are never gonna know what happened, how he died, did he know, was he ill, did he have a feeling his time was done, who knows at this point and really we will never know because the source of the TRUTH is gone. So I dont need Dr Phil or that other Doctor who deals with addiction talking to me about personalities and cover ups and what they think happened because he was not the typical person and they are applying their knowledge based on day to day folks, well Prince was not day to day.

The 999th speculation thread.

rogifan said:

bluegangsta said:

If only her time in his band was limited...

Why are people so nasty?

Dude, these jealous bitches can't help being nasty because they have nothing better to do with their time. Don't break your brain worrying about it. Just laugh at them.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

It wasn't just that. It was the backwards clothes found on him in the elevator. The impression Tyka gave of him seemingly having a mid-life crisis 2 years prior, quoting 'I've done everything I've come here to do'. Those aren't the words you'd expect from someone who's got another couple of gears to move through. So maybe there was an underlying health issue, physical, mental, drug-related. We don't know bc he was too private. And in answer to your last point, yeah I do believe early hours of 21 April he knew.

I believe he was ill but I do not believe he planned to die in the elevator. The backward clothes came from an unamed source so we do not know if that is even true. I think he was ill and maybe trying to get help or just collasped as he was walking. I do not think when people are ill they have in their mind some symbolism. I also do not think he committed suicide. He may have told Tyka he did everything he wanted to do because he was sick and knew he days were numbered and was at peace with it. She also said she knew two years ahead. In my mind this means illness.

But, that ruins everything 4 all the nutters who think he planned his death or that it was a plan by WB. Actually the backwards clothing thing does come from a source with a name. I ain't about 2 jump down that rabbit hole tho. I wouldn't place much on Tyka's words. Hell she just shut down that Race 2 Paisley Park becuz she wanted the money 4 herself.

Ur being rational again Laura, U know how far that gets U around here anymore.

As far as Shelby goes, saying he knew his time was limited is far different than saying "He knew he was gonna die on April 21" which is what many are implying she said but she did not.

SpookyNopetopus said:

rogifan said:

bluegangsta said: Why are people so nasty?

Dude, these jealous bitches can't help being nasty because they have nothing better to do with their time. Don't break your brain worrying about it. Just laugh at them.

Hi Spookers!!!

muleFunk said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Dimitri10 said:

She also believes the Piano and Mic tour was somethinng he had to do as his time was limited, looking back it was his farewell tour.

Everyone's time is limited. Is she saying he thought his passing was imminent?

Everybody's time is limited, but most of us don't know when and don't feel the end as near as others. . His P&M shows was his farewell. Before that he was telling us on Art Official age.

Still not accepting it

Lovejunky said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Everyone's time is limited. Is she saying he thought his passing was imminent?

Yes...she is directly saying that she feels he knew on some level that his time was near...she relates a stroy about her father who had died a few years earlier...She Flat out says there were a lot of behavioural similarities between P and her Dad...namely becoming more OPEN and sharing inner feelings that had previously been kept hidden...

The three parts are fascinating...earlier she mentions how Everyone who came into his presence fawned and lost their Shizzle,

How he was always way way WAY Ahead of any of us, SHe says something like we are in 2017 he was in 2030

( anangellooksdown and I have shared many an orgnote on this )

I dont think he was consciously thinking that he was going to Die, rather he was FEELING the time coming and there was a sense of urgency to complete certain things....

I do KNOW consciously KNOWING and FEELING he was going to Die. Still in denial.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Shelby doesn't know his private life. Dr Phil (former Oprah couch assistant) said everyone puts on a front in public. Mayte Garcia and Manuela Testolini will know a lot more about his real persona, even if they go back a while. Shelby is sycophantically obfuscating.

Shelby knows enough. Get off her ass. She was around him for ten years. She'll know that me and you and alot of orgers who think they know Prince!

fortuneandserendipity said:

rogifan said:

fortuneandserendipity said: She knows his private life more than anybody on this board.

But she's not saying very much. I think Mayte Garcia's book will reveal a lot. Intimate relationships are always going to reveal more to a person than working ones. There's a lot Shelby won't know.

She doesn't have to say much! What she said was quite enough and when she felt good and ready, not when we think she should've spoke! Shelby's relationship was one thing and Mayte's was another.

[Edited 3/10/17 18:12pm]

laytonian said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Shelby basically confirmed what Tyka said in her interview during the opening of Paisley Park.

Prince was ill.

. She gave two interviews that contradicted each other. . [Edited 3/9/17 19:45pm]

Whatever! He was ill and he said his time was up and it was! contradicted or not! Tyka is his family. You are not!

[Edited 3/10/17 18:17pm]

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Wait for the book and keep an open mind. Shelby didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

The book is already out. Trust me Mayte sheads no light in the last 20 years of his life but can exploit their child's death and his grief for a dollar.

Get off Mayte's ass! That woman dealt with a tragedy that she still stuggles with today and if she wants to write a book she can! Whenever you get through with it she as a tie to him that we will never have!

ACharmed1 said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

Dude, these jealous bitches can't help being nasty because they have nothing better to do with their time. Don't break your brain worrying about it. Just laugh at them.

Hi Spookers!!!

Thumbs up, Charmed! (Somehow, this joke will never, ever die. lol)

SpookyNopetopus said:

ACharmed1 said:

Hi Spookers!!!

Thumbs up, Charmed! (Somehow, this joke will never, ever die. lol)

OMG!...PIMP FINGER!! I totally forgot, and Ur right, it ain't ever gonna die or get old either.

ACharmed1 said:

laurarichardson said:

ACharmed1 said:

But, that ruins everything 4 all the nutters who think he planned his death or that it was a plan by WB. Actually the backwards clothing thing does come from a source with a name. I ain't about 2 jump down that rabbit hole tho. I wouldn't place much on Tyka's words. Hell she just shut down that Race 2 Paisley Park becuz she wanted the money 4 herself.

Ur being rational again Laura, U know how far that gets U around here anymore.

As far as Shelby goes, saying he knew his time was limited is far different than saying "He knew he was gonna die on April 21" which is what many are implying she said but she did not.

--Good points and you are right rational thoughts do not mean much on this site anymore. Tyka and the sibs are not making any devious yet concerning estate matters decisions are being made by Comerica.

It did come from Tyka unfortunately. When I find the link again I'll org note U if U want. As well as the backwards clothing thing.

TurnItUp said:

ACharmed1 said:

paradise000 said:

jaawwnn said:

I'm afraid it's actually interpretation.

I do agree the 3rd eye opening and the tear just after that (IIRC) was freaky as hell when he died though.

[Edited 3/9/17 21:41pm]

I remember this being mentioned before, also about the tweet being deleted shortly after. Was a screenshot made?

OldFriends4Sale said:

paradise000 said:

jaawwnn said: I remember this being mentioned before, also about the tweet being deleted shortly after. Was a screenshot made?

Thank You.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

What was the date on the twitter when he put up the third eye open? Was it after Vanity/Denise passed?

That would go along with the tear in theleft eye.

Mourning?

moonsister said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

She knows his private life more than anybody on this board.

That she does...but she really did not say anything revealing

I concur.

LBrent said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

LBrent said:

That would go along with the tear in the left eye.

Mourning?

That was a guess

Awww.

As if he didn't have enough on his mind...then to lose V.

Before anyone pounces on that sentiment, yes V's my fav P protege cuz I'm old as eff and remember that all as it happened and no, I'm not implying that V dying devastated P and caused 4/21.

Whatever.

He had many relationships and this was long ago, but clearly her dying had an effect on him evenafter all that time.

I feel defensive making a simple Awww cuz folks have been picking at simple comments lately. Ugh

<deep breath>

Anyway...Awww, poor P.