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Reply #150 posted 03/06/17 8:22pm

imprimis

vitality said:

The track "Phone Call to Jonathan" is most likely this :

www.billboard.com/article...interviews

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This is the best and likeliest expalanation, and deserves full endorsement.

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Reply #151 posted 03/06/17 8:24pm

imprimis

ElectricDancer said:

vivifiant said:

Is the 1984 version of Possessed with vocals circulating?

Yes.

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Sadly, no. But it is in the possession of some 'elite' collectors; therefore it is no rarer than, say, the average Blast from the Past x.x material at this point, which is likely the case for most of what is documented from the studio on PrinceVault.

Huh? What do you mean "sadly, no" and then saying it's no rarer than stuff on Blast From The Past?

It's out there. I have it.

If it's on boot comps like that, then it's circulating, right?

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What I mean to say is that the track is only very slightly beyond being shaken from the purple tree, already long in the hands of better connected collectors, but the track is no rarer in that respect that many recent leaks of narrowly circulated tracks, some of which made up the BFTP releases as a point of reference. As compared to things so deeply Vaulted or obscure virtually no one on the outside knows of their existence. They could put it out there anytime they wanted, and they have less incentive to be protective in the face of official estate releases, but they still hold back.

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Reply #152 posted 03/06/17 10:32pm

SomeSoldier

RodeoSchro said:



TwiliteKid said:


RodeoSchro said:

BTW, not to cast aspersions on my renewed faith in humanity, but I seriously doubt anyone steals something online and then actually buys it, too.



I do so all the time. Release dates are functions of marketing - if I can hear a record early, I will. Chances are I've already pre-ordered the LP, or I pick it up on release day.



Sure, listen to it. But I will remain forever doubtful that anyone downloads a full album, decides they like it, and then purchases what they already have stolen.

About the only way I can see that happening are those few people who are going to buy a physical copy (LP usually) because they actually collect stuff.


I did that even with 4ever!
I have paid for all the music I own that is available commercially (I.e., all of my music apart from Prince's bootlegs, and I'll pay for each and every one of them if they become available).
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Reply #153 posted 03/07/17 2:32am

BartVanHemelen

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jaawwnn said:

Prince's quote at the time in 2014 was "it's just the same album" which implied but didn't say straight out that there were no bonus tracks.

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Andf that was a bunch of BS since the first press release in 2014 had already mentioned unreleased music. Why would WBR agree to a remaster of PR without a bunch of bonus tracks and then just hand them his master recording rights (and NO, "the law said they had to" is a bunch of baloney as well)?

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Reply #154 posted 03/07/17 3:42am

NewpowerScarfo

Obviously Prince just gave WB an remastered version of the very same Purple Rain album that was already in stores. We know this was the case because Prince directly said it in an interview, and on twitter. Also this may have been the main reason why WB refused to release it because it was an breach of their agreement of it including unreleased music.

[Edited 3/7/17 3:47am]

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Reply #155 posted 03/07/17 6:46am

RodeoSchro

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SomeSoldier said:

RodeoSchro said:



Sure, listen to it. But I will remain forever doubtful that anyone downloads a full album, decides they like it, and then purchases what they already have stolen.

About the only way I can see that happening are those few people who are going to buy a physical copy (LP usually) because they actually collect stuff.

I did that even with 4ever! I have paid for all the music I own that is available commercially (I.e., all of my music apart from Prince's bootlegs, and I'll pay for each and every one of them if they become available).



I will happily share with you the Freedom Fries that djThunderfunnk is going to provide!

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Reply #156 posted 03/07/17 6:47am

RodeoSchro

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djThunderfunk said:

RodeoSchro said:



You sir are a man among men! I will upgrade you from French Fries to Freedom Fries!


No fries for you! lol wink



Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.

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Reply #157 posted 03/07/17 7:03am

djThunderfunk

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RodeoSchro said:

djThunderfunk said:


No fries for you! lol wink



Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.


I would have to have agreed in the first place in order to "take back". I didn't. cool

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #158 posted 03/07/17 7:09am

RodeoSchro

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djThunderfunk said:

RodeoSchro said:



Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.


I would have to have agreed in the first place in order to "take back". I didn't. cool




I'm sorry but under the new alternative reality implemented by Supreme Leader Donald Trump, all it takes is me saying something and that makes it a fact.

Be sure to bring ketchup!

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Reply #159 posted 03/07/17 7:13am

djThunderfunk

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RodeoSchro said:

djThunderfunk said:


I would have to have agreed in the first place in order to "take back". I didn't. cool




I'm sorry but under the new alternative reality implemented by Supreme Leader Donald Trump, all it takes is me saying something and that makes it a fact.

Be sure to bring ketchup!



Fake news!

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #160 posted 03/07/17 7:26am

RodeoSchro

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djThunderfunk said:

RodeoSchro said:




I'm sorry but under the new alternative reality implemented by Supreme Leader Donald Trump, all it takes is me saying something and that makes it a fact.

Be sure to bring ketchup!



Fake news!



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Reply #161 posted 03/07/17 8:02am

SomeSoldier

RodeoSchro said:

djThunderfunk said:


No fries for you! lol wink



Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.

I call them patatas fritas. Why am I getting free patatas fritas? I'm lost...

[Edited 3/7/17 8:02am]

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Reply #162 posted 03/07/17 8:42am

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SomeSoldier said:

RodeoSchro said:



Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.

I call them patatas fritas. Why am I getting free patatas fritas? I'm lost...

[Edited 3/7/17 8:02am]



I told some Orgers who said they were going to steal this release that as their punishment for their theft, they had to buy me a cheeseburger and Freedom Fries. Since you were so honest in your post, I am sharing my Freedom Fries with you.

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Reply #163 posted 03/07/17 8:50am

Lianachan

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Seems like a plausible track list, and one I'd personally be happy with. No track list would ever be perfect, there'll always be things missing that any individual would like to have seen on there.

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Reply #164 posted 03/07/17 9:25am

NewpowerScarfo

I'm hoping that list is fake. Why? I'm hoping that whole rehearsal of his 1984 Birthday Concert is remastered on CD. Prince was on an whole other level of being unearthly during that performance. His 19 minute version of "Neon Rendezvous" is still my alltime favorite Prince song/performance! Also his guitar solo on "Something in the Water Does Not Compute" was like listening to running water. He was playing so lightning fast, and flawless. In fact the bootleg for this called, "Neon Rendezvous" is the Holy Grail for Prince music. To have Neon Rendezvous with the Hallway extended version of Computer Blue would be more than enough to make the Remaster Deluxe set soething truly special. In fact, it's all I ever wanted.

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Reply #165 posted 03/07/17 9:36am

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The song is called "Noon Rendezvous," not "Neon Rendezvous". (The bootleg of the Birthday rehearsal is called "Neon Rendezvous".)

And WB would never put the Birthday show on the PR reissue, much less a rehearsal for it. But don't let that affect your enjoyment of either!

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Reply #166 posted 03/07/17 9:41am

NewpowerScarfo

dustoff said:

The song is called "Noon Rendezvous," not "Neon Rendezvous". (The bootleg of the Birthday rehearsal is called "Neon Rendezvous".)

And WB would never put the Birthday show on the PR reissue, much less a rehearsal for it. But don't let that affect your enjoyment of either!

I'm going by the tracklisting of the song, and it's called "Neon Rendezvous". I know it's the same song on Shelia E's album (The Glamourous Life) called "Noon Rendezvous", but everytime I enountered the version with Prince on the vocals it's called Neon instead of Noon. Lastly, I don't know how or why you're so confident on what WB would or won't add to the PR box set, since none of us (other than WB) has an clue to what gonna be added. (besides the remastered version of the PR album, which is an given)

[Edited 3/7/17 9:46am]

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Reply #167 posted 03/07/17 9:53am

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The tracklisting on your bootleg is wrong. All you have to do is listen to the lyrics (or check Princevault) to get that the song is called "Noon Rendezvous".

As for my prediction about WB and the reissue, time will tell.

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Reply #168 posted 03/07/17 10:16am

SomeSoldier

RodeoSchro said:



SomeSoldier said:




RodeoSchro said:





Sorry, no take backs. And now you have to provide enough Freedom Fries for me to share with SomeSoldier.



I call them patatas fritas. Why am I getting free patatas fritas? I'm lost...


[Edited 3/7/17 8:02am]





I told some Orgers who said they were going to steal this release that as their punishment for their theft, they had to buy me a cheeseburger and Freedom Fries. Since you were so honest in your post, I am sharing my Freedom Fries with you.


I will happily share a meal with you, particularly if someone else is paying!
To get things back on topic, having thought about it for a couple of days, if this were to be the final track list, it would be a bit underwhelming.
Nothing to object to the DVDs - the First Avenue show was always a must and it will be great to have it in good quality (and hopefully someone will rip the sound and I'll have it in perfect sound quality in my playlists...). The other DVD I'll judge when I watch it, but I've never seen any gigs from that era, so I won't have anything to compare it to.
Disc one is of course the original album (as it should be, in all of its perfect awesomeness from start to finish). Disc two would be a major disappointment. We already have the B sides with decent sound, Let's go crazy Special Dance Mix is excellent but was released as part of Ultimate, and I don't need The Time, Dez and Apollonia in a Prince album. I assume that I Would Die 4U is not going to be the 30 minutes version, so that might be interesting. And if we get an extended version of 17 Days, it would redeem it a bit. Now, if the final four tracks in disc two were to feature Prince vocals, then it would all be a different matter... That would really make this set for me!
And about disc 3, we'll have to wait and see. I don't know anything about two of the tracks (three, if Phonecall is an actual song). The alternative takes of songs from the album was to be expected, but do we really need two Computer Blues? I think I have about seven versions of that song already! And of course, I can't wait to get Electric Intercourse, Father's Song, Mama, Wednesday and Love and Sex. Traffic Jam is great, and it would be even greater if there was a version with vocals - I don't know whether such thing exists, though.
In the end, as exciting as it is, we wouldn't be getting a lot of new music if this were to be the final track list, so hopefully it won't be. And just one final thing: each of the five discs would include a version of Let's Go Crazy.
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Reply #169 posted 03/07/17 10:31am

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Keep in mind that this is the Purple Rain box set. It may not be the be-all end-all collection of out takes or concerts that ultimately get released.

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Reply #170 posted 03/07/17 10:52am

SomeSoldier

RodeoSchro said:

Keep in mind that this is the Purple Rain box set. It may not be the be-all end-all collection of out takes or concerts that ultimately get released.

I know, but I am just about to spend quite lot of money in it (told you!), so it would be nice if it's really worth it! In the long term I assume we will get pretty much everything, but it would be nice if this set was somethign really special (don't get me wrong, Electric Intercourse on its own would make any set special, but there's so much more that we could get...)

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Reply #171 posted 03/07/17 12:27pm

RodeoSchro

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SomeSoldier said:

RodeoSchro said:

Keep in mind that this is the Purple Rain box set. It may not be the be-all end-all collection of out takes or concerts that ultimately get released.

I know, but I am just about to spend quite lot of money in it (told you!), so it would be nice if it's really worth it! In the long term I assume we will get pretty much everything, but it would be nice if this set was somethign really special (don't get me wrong, Electric Intercourse on its own would make any set special, but there's so much more that we could get...)



I'm sure it will be a lot of money, but you ARE going to get some free tasty Freedom Fries out of this! Or, maybe I can get those thieving Orgers to up it to onion rings if you prefer.

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Reply #172 posted 03/07/17 12:27pm

jaawwnn

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BartVanHemelen said:



jaawwnn said:



Prince's quote at the time in 2014 was "it's just the same album" which implied but didn't say straight out that there were no bonus tracks.



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Andf that was a bunch of BS since the first press release in 2014 had already mentioned unreleased music. Why would WBR agree to a remaster of PR without a bunch of bonus tracks and then just hand them his master recording rights (and NO, "the law said they had to" is a bunch of baloney as well)?


Why indeed, it always seemed a likely reason for why they didn't release it on 2014. What they wanted and what prince provided were clearly at odds. For those of us who enjoy latter day Prince music we at least got Art Official Age.
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Reply #173 posted 03/07/17 12:31pm

SomeSoldier

RodeoSchro said:



SomeSoldier said:




RodeoSchro said:


Keep in mind that this is the Purple Rain box set. It may not be the be-all end-all collection of out takes or concerts that ultimately get released.



I know, but I am just about to spend quite lot of money in it (told you!), so it would be nice if it's really worth it! In the long term I assume we will get pretty much everything, but it would be nice if this set was somethign really special (don't get me wrong, Electric Intercourse on its own would make any set special, but there's so much more that we could get...)





I'm sure it will be a lot of money, but you ARE going to get some free tasty Freedom Fries out of this! Or, maybe I can get those thieving Orgers to up it to onion rings if you prefer.


No self-respecting Spanish man would ever be seen eating onion rings!
[Edited 3/7/17 12:31pm]
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Reply #174 posted 03/07/17 12:34pm

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soladeo1 said:

So my wife's good highschool friend works in LA for Warner Bros. Music. He knows I am a HUGE Prince fan. Late last night
He sent her an email:


"Tell XXXXX that I saw in a shared drive we all share a document of a 'working' track list for the upcoming Purple Rain rerelease. This is hot buzz around here. LOTs of attention. Very hush hush. I saw the doc and screen captured it:

Purple Rain Deluxe: 2/14/17
Album - 1
Let's Go Crazy
Take Me With U
The Beautiful Ones
Computer Blue
Darling Nikki
When Doves Cry
I Would Die 4 U
Baby I'm A Star
Purple Rain

Album - 2
Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix)
Erotic City (Dance Mix)
17 Days
God
Another Lonely Christmas
I Would Die 4 U (Extended)
Jungle Love
The Bird
Sex Shooter
Modernaire

Album - 3
Let's Go Crazy (Demo)
Mighty Will Rise Up
This Thing Is Real
Electric Intercourse
Wednesday
Love And Sex
When Doves Cry (Alternate Take)
Traffic Jam
Mama
Father's Song
Computer Blue (Alternative Take 1)
Computer Blue (Alternative Take 2)
Baby I'm A Star (1982)
Phone Call To Jonathan
Purple Rain (Rehearsal)

Album - 4
Let's Go Crazy
When You Were Mine
A Case of You
Computer Blue
Delirious
Electric Intercourse
Automatic
I Would Die 4 U
Baby I'm a Star
Little Red Corvette
Purple rain
D.M.S.R.

Album - 5
Strawberry Shortcake
The Belle Of St Mark
Oliver's House
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick From Your Collar
Erotic City
The Glamorous Lufe
Let's Go Crazy
Delirious
1999
Little Red Corvette
Take Me With U
Free
Do Me, Band
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore
Let's Pretend We're Married
International Lover
Father's Song
God
Computer Blue
Darling Nikki
The Beautiful Ones
When Doves Cry
I Would Die 4 U
Baby I'm a Star
Purple Rain


It's up to you all what you would like to include in the album. If I were to work for WB I would try to include some songs that aren't personal tracks but include ones that aren't the same songs over and over.
I do like the idea of concert series songs so great job on that.
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Reply #175 posted 03/07/17 6:50pm

luvsexy4all

imprimis said:

vivifiant said:

Is the 1984 version of Possessed with vocals circulating?

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Sadly, no. But it is in the possession of some 'elite' collectors; therefore it is no rarer than, say, the average Blast from the Past x.x material at this point, which is likely the case for most of what is documented from the studio on PrinceVault. It's said to have an 'All Day, All Night'-ish spoken-rather-than-sung before breaking into the chrous approach to the vocals. It's also been alleged in Possessed, of all places, if I recall the source correctly, that P plays the harp on the song, but I believe it is the DX7, which he had just received a few weeks before (and inaugurates into his musical world on 'Love and Sex' and 'When Doves Cry'). It profits greatly from its close proximity in recording time to WDC (about 16 days later) in its wickedly effected/flanged Linn programming; he was still in the moment.

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do u mean the 8:51 vocal version? its online ..if thats it

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Reply #176 posted 03/07/17 10:46pm

khill95

soooo....shut up and take my money biggrin i'm dying to see these shows on something more than a computer screen and shitty quality lol lol

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Reply #177 posted 03/08/17 6:10am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

In fact the bootleg for this called, "Neon Rendezvous" is the Holy Grail for Prince music.

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There is a much better version of that circulating.

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Reply #178 posted 03/08/17 6:12am

BartVanHemelen

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jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Andf that was a bunch of BS since the first press release in 2014 had already mentioned unreleased music. Why would WBR agree to a remaster of PR without a bunch of bonus tracks and then just hand them his master recording rights (and NO, "the law said they had to" is a bunch of baloney as well)?

Why indeed, it always seemed a likely reason for why they didn't release it on 2014.

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Because you don't just hurrily release such a thing.

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Reply #179 posted 03/08/17 6:20am

imprimis

NewpowerScarfo said:

dustoff said:

The song is called "Noon Rendezvous," not "Neon Rendezvous". (The bootleg of the Birthday rehearsal is called "Neon Rendezvous".)

And WB would never put the Birthday show on the PR reissue, much less a rehearsal for it. But don't let that affect your enjoyment of either!

I'm going by the tracklisting of the song, and it's called "Neon Rendezvous". I know it's the same song on Shelia E's album (The Glamourous Life) called "Noon Rendezvous", but everytime I enountered the version with Prince on the vocals it's called Neon instead of Noon. Lastly, I don't know how or why you're so confident on what WB would or won't add to the PR box set, since none of us (other than WB) has an clue to what gonna be added. (besides the remastered version of the PR album, which is an given)

[Edited 3/7/17 9:46am]

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To his credit, Neon Rendezvous is the the title of the bootleg (perhaps the most famous of them from back in the salad days) on which this rehearsal performance was to be found (a higher quality soundboard source of it has been more recently leaked).

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To be realistic, this rehearsal performance would be obscure and of little consequence in P's and now the Estate's worldviews, and it won't be making the track list of official release in the foreseeable future, or (most likely) ever.

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A pristine 24-track of it certainly exists in the Vault, however.

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That detract from its breathtaking guitar work, nor that it managed to capture a perfect slice of the Purple Rain era and that 1984 time period in general.

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It was most likely also videotaped, but not part of the [Big Chick-] leaked Warehouse black-and-white rehearsal footage for the Birthday Show, for whatever reason (held back by bootleggers, more than likely).

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