oliviacamron said:

DonaFlor said:

I am reading often russian media and never read nothing of future P concert in Russia. Roman Abramovich realy have connections with Putin, but in Russia for rich people its necessity. Look what is happened with Berezovski and Hodorkovski. No rich man in Russia is safe. I don't believe Abromovich is evil man. He was ordinary man becoming rich. How is good question.

Do you speak Russian? If I can get the place Prince was supposed to perform, would you call them and ask them if it's true had a concert in June?

Yes, i speak russian, but i don't think i would get any answer. What is the place? Now i am curious.

DonaFlor said:

Luzhniki Stadium. Event unpublicized. Maybe an employee can verify if true. +74957800808. (phone number)

cloveringold85 said:

I read all about this Abromovich man. Just google him. He acquired his wealth and works in government and investments. You don't mess with Russians--and the fact that Prince did a private concert for this guy in St. Barts really concerns me, because why would Prince even be involved with such ruthless people?

I don't think there is anything to consern. I am sure he was paid very well. May be so very well, so he couldn't refuse. May be a million or more or who knows.

DonaFlor said:

There were a lot of celebs there right? Maybe that's why he went plus the $$. Or maybe Prince went because he wanted to talk with Roman about politics and whatnot

oliviacamron said:

DonaFlor said:

I don't think there is anything to consern. I am sure he was paid very well. May be so very well, so he couldn't refuse. May be a million or more or who knows.

There were a lot of celebs there right? Maybe that's why he went plus the $$. Or maybe Prince went because he wanted to talk with Roman about politics and whatnot

Didn't Paul McCartney say he saw Prince on NYE? I can see if P were paid a good sum and there were other big celebrities attending that he might not think anything of it. I'm sure celebrities come into contact with the world's uber wealthy all the time.

oliviacamron said:

DonaFlor said:

I don't think there is anything to consern. I am sure he was paid very well. May be so very well, so he couldn't refuse. May be a million or more or who knows.

There were a lot of celebs there right? Maybe that's why he went plus the $$. Or maybe Prince went because he wanted to talk with Roman about politics and whatnot

I highly doubt you or i could even connect with "Luzhniki" employees, or if you could i don't think they know anything. P allready been in Moskow for private concert in 2007 and i am sure he was paid big money. I found this http://kommersant.ru/doc/830891 You can Google translate it if you want, title says "Country of unseen (unbelievable-my translation) royalties". I am sure he knew allready Russia means very big money.

Besides if the russians wanted to kill him, they would do it neatly. I could not but think of death of Berezovski in UK, they consider it suicide, in locked from inside room, it must be, but the doubt remains.

By the way Abramovich is extremely smart, polite and educated man, but i dont think they would talk about politics.

DonaFlor said:

I called the stadium. I was connected then my phone made a funny noise and disconnected. It never hurts to ask. So far on behalf of Prince I have called council members, the mayor and an old business associate of Prince's. I don't care what people think of me, I only care about getting the truth about what happened to him

oliviacamron said:

DonaFlor said:

I highly doubt you or i could even connect with "Luzhniki" employees, or if you could i don't think they know anything. P allready been in Moskow for private concert in 2007 and i am sure he was paid big money. I found this http://kommersant.ru/doc/830891 You can Google translate it if you want, title says "Country of unseen (unbelievable-my translation) royalties". I am sure he knew allready Russia means very big money.

Besides if the russians wanted to kill him, they would do it neatly. I could not but think of death of Berezovski in UK, they consider it suicide, in locked from inside room, it must be, but the doubt remains.

By the way Abramovich is extremely smart, polite and educated man, but i dont think they would talk about politics.

I called the stadium. I was connected then my phone made a funny noise and disconnected. It never hurts to ask. So far on behalf of Prince I have called council members, the mayor and an old business associate of Prince's. I don't care what people think of me, I only care about getting the truth about what happened to him

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Wow, Olivia!! You go, gurl!!

Tyka is often spoken of with distrust by the fams. Some think she's in on the cover up or that she flat out didn't care about her brother. Some even say she only wants the money. What truth and what reason is there to these claims?

I'm starting to think we should approach her and the rest of the family with much more skepticism.

AnonymousFan said:

- They have not given us any reason to be skeptical. Most of the nonsense is from the tabloid media.

cloveringold85 said:

If a govt was involved seems oUr own could be involved, would not put it past the worst pres ever. After all P did speak out against him etc. just listen to his welcome to America tour as well as interviews as to what P knew was going on...

AnonymousFan said:

There are several that need to be scrutinized. They have given us cause to question their integrity.

zenarose said:

Well, can we elaborate? On Tyka, specifically.

AnonymousFan said:

We can only assume that Prince and TN lived in the same home as children. Their early teen years through adulthood was apart. There seems to be virtually little contact in their adult lives. TN left home in pursuit of a musical career. She spent time in CA,and seems to have spent a lot of time in NC and other locations. It appears from one of her early interviews that P had tried to help her. She had small children. One of the most telling statements she said was " he can't keep treating me like a yo-yo". This to me says that he helped her but fully expected her to help herself. Then she goes to rehab. Not much accounting of her from then until 2013-2014 when by then she was living in TX (married to Maurice) and gets evicted from her home/apartment. That is when she starts working for NPG?? She accompanies P to a few concerts. There is no evidence of a close relationship or even a relationship between the two. Her reaction to P's death and her posts on social media seems off. Her interview was off. Her appearance at the AMA's was off. I have not lost a sibling but I have lost family, close family. It tore me to pieces. When I heard that P had died I was washing dishes. I just sank to the floor and cried for a long time. It affected me so deeply. But his own blood sister has no emotion. The 2 year story is not believable. How do you know 2 years in advance that your brother is going to die from a self administered over dose of fentanyl?? Recovering addicts/alcoholics fight for sobriety every day. They still have their "connections". I'm not saying that she is not sober just that if her urge became too great she could access whatever she wanted whenever she wanted it. I believe that she is about the money. But she is not the only one.

zenarose said:

AnonymousFan said:

Well, can we elaborate? On Tyka, specifically.

We can only assume that Prince and TN lived in the same home as children. Their early teen years through adulthood was apart. There seems to be virtually little contact in their adult lives. TN left home in pursuit of a musical career. She spent time in CA,and seems to have spent a lot of time in NC and other locations. It appears from one of her early interviews that P had tried to help her. She had small children. One of the most telling statements she said was " he can't keep treating me like a yo-yo". This to me says that he helped her but fully expected her to help herself. Then she goes to rehab. Not much accounting of her from then until 2013-2014 when by then she was living in TX (married to Maurice) and gets evicted from her home/apartment. That is when she starts working for NPG?? She accompanies P to a few concerts. There is no evidence of a close relationship or even a relationship between the two. Her reaction to P's death and her posts on social media seems off. Her interview was off. Her appearance at the AMA's was off. I have not lost a sibling but I have lost family, close family. It tore me to pieces. When I heard that P had died I was washing dishes. I just sank to the floor and cried for a long time. It affected me so deeply. But his own blood sister has no emotion. The 2 year story is not believable. How do you know 2 years in advance that your brother is going to die from a self administered over dose of fentanyl?? Recovering addicts/alcoholics fight for sobriety every day. They still have their "connections". I'm not saying that she is not sober just that if her urge became too great she could access whatever she wanted whenever she wanted it. I believe that she is about the money. But she is not the only one.

There seems to be virtually little contact in their adult lives.

Not true. He put her in rehab by actually taking her from Rehab to Rehab until one worked. She said he came to the threphy with her. She has also said that they talked all the time and only went without communication for about six months their whole lives.

She worked for him doing take down notices and traveled with him over the last few years. probaly got evicted because she was out doing talks for free apparently at Rehab centers.

I do not believe she has no emotion I remember her husband saying she was hysterical on CNN before we saw her come out on T.V. She also did no interviews with the media for weeks and we still do not hear much from her except the occasional Facebook post. I do not think those were fake tears at the AMA awards. Everybody processed grief in different ways and right now she cannot afford to space out on greif as too many things need to be taken care of. I wish her peace and hope the estate can be wrapped up before the end of next year. The whole family needs closure and they cannot get it with the vultures trying to get crumbs off the table.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wow, Olivia!! You go, gurl!!

If a govt was involved seems oUr own could be involved, would not put it past the worst pres ever. After all P did speak out against him etc. just listen to his welcome to America tour as well as interviews as to what P knew was going on...

I do not think any govt was involved with P's death. I think somone who knew and trusted was involved. I am not sure if he was given bad pills on purpose or if he trusted someone and they fucked up.

If what the Atlanta promoter said was true he made mention of not feeling well and going to see his doctor and made mention of it again on the phone call to Adrian. He knew he was not feeling well and you don't make these comments to people if you know why you are sick. I think he got a bad batch of pills somewhere between Atlanta and the day of his death and was only going to find out what was going on when Dr. S showed up with those results.

The police have someone in mind or this case would not still be open and it is not the Russian Govt.

He was probaly to nice with hiring people and letting people hang out. I find it disturbing that number of people he just let work at Paisley Park or hang around some he just met over the internet.

It appears he got more trusting and open with people but that may have been a hugh mistake.

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LAURA: You know that I respect your opinions. From all my research I have not found the information that you are talking about. I have my opinion as you do and we could both be wrong. I just don't see her as genuine. And I base my conclusions on different perspectives, so I have a few. IAH I don't believe there is one shred of truth to anything that is or has been put out there. I don't believe her, but there are several others that I don't believe either. We just have to stir around the....you know what....so the truth can make it's way to the top.

zenarose said:

Well said Zena.
Her interview statements prior to PP opening were completely different too.

zenarose said:

LAURA: You know that I respect your opinions. From all my research I have not found the information that you are talking about. I have my opinion as you do and we could both be wrong. I just don't see her as genuine. And I base my conclusions on different perspectives, so I have a few. IAH I don't believe there is one shred of truth to anything that is or has been put out there. I don't believe her, but there are several others that I don't believe either. We just have to stir around the....you know what....so the truth can make it's way to the top.

Did you hear the podcase interview she did with Michael Dean about two years ago? She also did some interviews when she was marketing her e-book. I can link the Michael Dean podcast but I have had trouble finding the interviews for her e-book which got pulled before I had a chance to get it.

This is right around the time I started to learn a little bit about her. I just did not get the impression that they did not communicate for years or care about each other. I think he disaapproved of her drug life style as she was his baby sister and maybe had to distant himself to keep from smacking her but she appears to have come around right after their parents passed away a lot probaly changed in the last 16 years.

I have a sibling I love but I have to distance myself from them because I do not care for their attitude it does not mean I would not be devestated if something were to happen to them.

[Edited 12/27/16 10:42am]

zenarose said:

LAURA: You know that I respect your opinions. From all my research I have not found the information that you are talking about. I have my opinion as you do and we could both be wrong. I just don't see her as genuine. And I base my conclusions on different perspectives, so I have a few. IAH I don't believe there is one shred of truth to anything that is or has been put out there. I don't believe her, but there are several others that I don't believe either. We just have to stir around the....you know what....so the truth can make it's way to the top.

The 2 year story is not believable. How do you know 2 years in advance that your brother is going to die from a self administered over dose of fentanyl?? Recovering addicts/alcoholics fight for sobriety every day. They still have their "connections". I'm not saying that she is not sober just that if her urge became too great she could access whatever she wanted whenever she wanted it. I believe that she is about the money. But she is not the only one.

She did not say that she knew he was going to die from Fetanyl and from the unknown sources we are lead to believe that the Fentanyl was not in his system prior to the last day of his death no long term user. She said she was still not ready to accept his death after knowing for two years.

I fully believe she expected him die from something either some illness or if she knew he was having a problem with pain meds the pill themselves although the time frame makes me think of illness this posioning to me is something else that just happened while he was dealing with other illness. Let us not forget what pain pills can do to the organ over the long haul.

zenarose said:

LAURA: You know that I respect your opinions. From all my research I have not found the information that you are talking about. I have my opinion as you do and we could both be wrong. I just don't see her as genuine. And I base my conclusions on different perspectives, so I have a few. IAH I don't believe there is one shred of truth to anything that is or has been put out there. I don't believe her, but there are several others that I don't believe either. We just have to stir around the....you know what....so the truth can make it's way to the top.

The story around town was that the family was interested in just the money. They didn't want PP - just the money. Their interaction with Prince was minimal. Their interaction with each other was minimal, and then the comment that there were/are two factions in the non-excluded heirs group was borne out by the separate TODAY show interview segments and the separate appearances at various functions/events.

1Sasha said:

zenarose said:

LAURA: You know that I respect your opinions. From all my research I have not found the information that you are talking about. I have my opinion as you do and we could both be wrong. I just don't see her as genuine. And I base my conclusions on different perspectives, so I have a few. IAH I don't believe there is one shred of truth to anything that is or has been put out there. I don't believe her, but there are several others that I don't believe either. We just have to stir around the....you know what....so the truth can make it's way to the top.

The story around town was that the family was interested in just the money. They didn't want PP - just the money. Their interaction with Prince was minimal. Their interaction with each other was minimal, and then the comment that there were/are two factions in the non-excluded heirs group was borne out by the separate TODAY show interview segments and the separate appearances at various functions/events.

I thought the story has always been that Prince did not get along with the older sibs. Which would make since the older ones had sued him in the past and made a fuss doing the probate of his father's will.

I thought he got along with the Omarr and Tyka and was seen with these two a lot in his last years. They both lived in homes he owned. In addtion, I think some of you are forgetting that once the probate is done they are all heirs and can sell everything or sell their individual shares if they like.

If Prince disliked them so much he could have written a will and left them nothing. He did not do that and since he was the executor of his dad's estate he knew full well they would inheirit everything.

If they want to sell everything they are well within their rights to do so and considering how old the older sibs are it might be better if they did sell their shares and move on.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

The story around town was that the family was interested in just the money. They didn't want PP - just the money. Their interaction with Prince was minimal. Their interaction with each other was minimal, and then the comment that there were/are two factions in the non-excluded heirs group was borne out by the separate TODAY show interview segments and the separate appearances at various functions/events.

I thought the story has always been that Prince did not get along with the older sibs. Which would make since the older ones had sued him in the past and made a fuss doing the probate of his father's will.

I thought he got along with the Omarr and Tyka and was seen with these two a lot in his last years. They both lived in homes he owned. In addtion, I think some of you are forgetting that once the probate is done they are all heirs and can sell everything or sell their individual shares if they like.

If Prince disliked them so much he could have written a will and left them nothing. He did not do that and since he was the executor of his dad's estate he knew full well they would inheirit everything.

If they want to sell everything they are well within their rights to do so and considering how old the older sibs are it might be better if they did sell their shares and move on.

I am inclined to believe that the older siblings do want to "cash out". With that, there is nothing wrong with that, it is the siblings right to do so.

I also believe at a minimum, Tyka wants to continue the legacy and run PP and the business.

Prince was fully aware from his father's Estate of how things could play out. I have heard rumors that Prince would not talk about Estate planning with lawyers. I have no information on why and I do not understand why. But, it is his right and decision to either create a will or not.

I try not to live in a world of what ifs, but after reading some celebrities estates, perhaps Prince thought that will or no will, the estate would be contested. Similar to James Brown.

I am not sure how close Prince was to his siblings/half-siblings. I have heard, like all orgers, that Prince take care of them and provided many with homes at his expense. Again, I do not have any inside knowledge or information.

I am more inclined to believe the residents of Chanhassen. They are local and I am sure they hear things that we are not privy too. Doesn't mean it is all true, but could be. I mean this statement with all due respect.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

I thought the story has always been that Prince did not get along with the older sibs. Which would make since the older ones had sued him in the past and made a fuss doing the probate of his father's will.

I thought he got along with the Omarr and Tyka and was seen with these two a lot in his last years. They both lived in homes he owned. In addtion, I think some of you are forgetting that once the probate is done they are all heirs and can sell everything or sell their individual shares if they like.

If Prince disliked them so much he could have written a will and left them nothing. He did not do that and since he was the executor of his dad's estate he knew full well they would inheirit everything.

If they want to sell everything they are well within their rights to do so and considering how old the older sibs are it might be better if they did sell their shares and move on.

I am inclined to believe that the older siblings do want to "cash out". With that, there is nothing wrong with that, it is the siblings right to do so.

I also believe at a minimum, Tyka wants to continue the legacy and run PP and the business.

Prince was fully aware from his father's Estate of how things could play out. I have heard rumors that Prince would not talk about Estate planning with lawyers. I have no information on why and I do not understand why. But, it is his right and decision to either create a will or not.

I try not to live in a world of what ifs, but after reading some celebrities estates, perhaps Prince thought that will or no will, the estate would be contested. Similar to James Brown.

I am not sure how close Prince was to his siblings/half-siblings. I have heard, like all orgers, that Prince take care of them and provided many with homes at his expense. Again, I do not have any inside knowledge or information.

I am more inclined to believe the residents of Chanhassen. They are local and I am sure they hear things that we are not privy too. Doesn't mean it is all true, but could be. I mean this statement with all due respect.

Information from court docs tells us that some of them live in homes Prince owned. Tyka has said she wants to get the music out and I do not see any reason why that cannot not be done. If sometime down the road they want to close Paisley Park they can although there is no reason to do that right now when they could use the revenue.

I believe he did not have a will because of a fear of contesting look at what happened to Ray Charles and James Brown. Even Robin Williams who had trust still had his children contesting it because they did not like their step mom. It appears your wishes are not taken into consideration so maybe he thought why bother.

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

I am inclined to believe that the older siblings do want to "cash out". With that, there is nothing wrong with that, it is the siblings right to do so.

I also believe at a minimum, Tyka wants to continue the legacy and run PP and the business.

Prince was fully aware from his father's Estate of how things could play out. I have heard rumors that Prince would not talk about Estate planning with lawyers. I have no information on why and I do not understand why. But, it is his right and decision to either create a will or not.

I try not to live in a world of what ifs, but after reading some celebrities estates, perhaps Prince thought that will or no will, the estate would be contested. Similar to James Brown.

I am not sure how close Prince was to his siblings/half-siblings. I have heard, like all orgers, that Prince take care of them and provided many with homes at his expense. Again, I do not have any inside knowledge or information.

I am more inclined to believe the residents of Chanhassen. They are local and I am sure they hear things that we are not privy too. Doesn't mean it is all true, but could be. I mean this statement with all due respect.

Information from court docs tells us that some of them live in homes Prince owned. Tyka has said she wants to get the music out and I do not see any reason why that cannot not be done. If sometime down the road they want to close Paisley Park they can although there is no reason to do that right now when they could use the revenue.

I believe he did not have a will because of a fear of contesting look at what happened to Ray Charles and James Brown. Even Robin Williams who had trust still had his children contesting it because they did not like their step mom. It appears your wishes are not taken into consideration so maybe he thought why bother.

I agree with you and believe we are on the same page. If the older siblings want to cash out, Tyka could purchase their share in the business side and pursue it. I believe that Tyka will try to do that.

In my believes, it is imperative that the last wishes must be honored. That means putting one's personal opinions and greed aside. The reality is, this does not always happen. I have seen it when my Dad passed. He was not wealthy, so I can only iimagine the chaos on Prince's level.

If Prince emailed, texted, twitted or wrote on a piece of paper of things he wanted done, that should be honored above all else. I know it is not legal or binding, but it does show what he desired. It gets complicated when there is no direction or understanding of what to do from lack of instructions.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

Information from court docs tells us that some of them live in homes Prince owned. Tyka has said she wants to get the music out and I do not see any reason why that cannot not be done. If sometime down the road they want to close Paisley Park they can although there is no reason to do that right now when they could use the revenue.

I believe he did not have a will because of a fear of contesting look at what happened to Ray Charles and James Brown. Even Robin Williams who had trust still had his children contesting it because they did not like their step mom. It appears your wishes are not taken into consideration so maybe he thought why bother.

I agree with you and believe we are on the same page. If the older siblings want to cash out, Tyka could purchase their share in the business side and pursue it. I believe that Tyka will try to do that.

In my believes, it is imperative that the last wishes must be honored. That means putting one's personal opinions and greed aside. The reality is, this does not always happen. I have seen it when my Dad passed. He was not wealthy, so I can only iimagine the chaos on Prince's level.

If Prince emailed, texted, twitted or wrote on a piece of paper of things he wanted done, that should be honored above all else. I know it is not legal or binding, but it does show what he desired. It gets complicated when there is no direction or understanding of what to do from lack of instructions.

Well he left instructions for Paisley Park, and he set up an LLC. He did leave a business structure in place and everyone knows how he felt about his music and charitiy. He was pretty open on a lot of topics.

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

I agree with you and believe we are on the same page. If the older siblings want to cash out, Tyka could purchase their share in the business side and pursue it. I believe that Tyka will try to do that.

In my believes, it is imperative that the last wishes must be honored. That means putting one's personal opinions and greed aside. The reality is, this does not always happen. I have seen it when my Dad passed. He was not wealthy, so I can only iimagine the chaos on Prince's level.

If Prince emailed, texted, twitted or wrote on a piece of paper of things he wanted done, that should be honored above all else. I know it is not legal or binding, but it does show what he desired. It gets complicated when there is no direction or understanding of what to do from lack of instructions.

Well he left instructions for Paisley Park, and he set up an LLC. He did leave a business structure in place and everyone knows how he felt about his music and charitiy. He was pretty open on a lot of topics.

Completely agree. I think the 2 factions simply boils down to part of the siblings are not interested in the business side and want to cash out (for their own personal reasons) and the other siblings want to continue to operate Prince's business. Neither side is wrong. They just have to find middle ground to resolve the estate and minimize costs.

CURIOSITY WARNING!!!

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Odd that Prince and GM were both about to embark on either written memoirs, or a documentary charting their lives; odd that Carrie Fisher had just completed her autobiography and was doing a tour promoting it when the three of them passed...I do wonder if some people have a 'sense' that their time is running short and so they need to do these things before it's too late...

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Dibblekins said:

Maybe....
Seems GM and Carrie may have had a "sense"but Prince was given a fatal dose of fentanyl. Maybe he also felt that was coming from someone?
So very sad that His death is the only homicide

I re-watched Prince on Arsenio Hall 2014
whole different perspective now that he passed.
He knew.
To me, P seemed to choke down tears/emotion when
Arsenio said 'you've always been a good friend to me'
I don't know exactly what was going on with his health
but something serious WAS going on.
I think that's what's so painful--- he was carrying it.
On the other hand, w/ the knowledge
he got to set things right.