MD431Madcat said:

He was not pretending he thought he was the Alpha Dog in his world. I do not know any brothers his age who do not think that.

MD431Madcat said:

anyone that knows Prince knows that he was a master at pretending to be the worlds most alpha male.

RJOrion said:

MD431Madcat said: Prince may have had some issues with his height, but the more i think about this, i agree with you...why would Prince interject that into THAT conversation, at THAT moment?.... Beatty must have been either making a joke that got taken out of context, or he's a liar...i cant imagine Prince displaying any self deprecating behavior...joking or not...maybe around close female friends or family...but not no warren beatty....

journalism16 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I'm only about 5'2", and I'm fine with my height. The only time I have trouble is when trying to reach up high for something in my kitchen or at the grocery store, but that's where my 6'6" tall husband comes in handy! LOL

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Uh, Good God, I'm short and I'm Proud!! LOL

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I love my height as well, and God did not make a mistake when it came to Prince, in fact, I'm watching Purple Rain right now.

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I also think, if anything, his lack of height helped his career.

laurarichardson said:

StopIt said:

[Snip - luv4u]

What is your deal with the trolling. Mayte said he did not care about being short with the exception of basketball since he felt he could have played professionally if he was not so short.

Even the butler at the Rio said he had ladies coming by his suite who were tall.

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Yes. Mayte even said that Prince didn't have an issue with his height.

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Besides, I think 5'3" is not unusually short -- it's actually quite common. I wouldn't mind being a couple of inches taller myself, but I'm okay with being short.

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Prince was a bit taller than me. 5'3", so it's all good!!

anytime you walk in any room and you're the smallest man there..

you'll have to be good at pretending to be the Alpha male..

because in reality you know even some of the women there would beat your midget ass!

BillieBalloon said:

MD431Madcat said:

anyone that knows Prince knows that he was a master at pretending to be the worlds most alpha male.

Prince fulfills a lot of the criteria for an alpha male. You don't have to be six foot plus to be alpha male.

MD431Madcat said:

anytime you walk in any room and you're the smallest man there..

you'll have to be good at pretending to be the Alpha male..

because in reality you know even some of the women there would beat your midget ass!

BillieBalloon said:

MD431Madcat said: Prince fulfills a lot of the criteria for an alpha male. You don't have to be six foot plus to be alpha male.

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Now, come on, be real. You know that if Prince walked into any room where there were other men around, they were JEALOUS of his good looks and swag!!

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Even my husband, who is 1,000% heterosexual says that Prince was a handsome dude!!

You keep talking about PRINCE the legend.. im talking about Prince from the North side vs Andre.. Morris.. or damn near any males in his town/school..

ie: REALITY!

cloveringold85 said:

MD431Madcat said:

anytime you walk in any room and you're the smallest man there..

you'll have to be good at pretending to be the Alpha male..

because in reality you know even some of the women there would beat your midget ass!

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Now, come on, be real. You know that if Prince walked into any room where there were other men around, they were JEALOUS of his good looks and swag!!

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Even my husband, who is 1,000% heterosexual says that Prince was a handsome dude!!

MD431Madcat said:

You keep talking about PRINCE the legend.. im talking about Prince from the North side vs Andre.. Morris.. or damn near any males in his town/school..

ie: REALITY!

cloveringold85 said:

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Now, come on, be real. You know that if Prince walked into any room where there were other men around, they were JEALOUS of his good looks and swag!!

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Even my husband, who is 1,000% heterosexual says that Prince was a handsome dude!!

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Well, if you referring to Prince before he was the Purple Rain star, then that's a different story!

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I'm sure he was different way back then. We all change and evolve.

MD431Madcat said:

cloveringold85 said:

i'm a woman who is "mansize" so i could kinda sympathize with him feeling weird around the same gender. i always thought that's why it never bothered me that he was short.* when u grow up "the tall girl" most boys are shorter than u until the last yrs of school. the boyfriend i had in 8th grade was to my shoulder until our senior yr when he came back from summer break 6'3'!!

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* although seeing him in person, not on stage, was always a jarring reminder.

ufoclub said:

I'm pretty sure Prince was going for some dry humor when he said that to the other two in that story in GQ. He kind of celebrated his stature, putting lyrics and jokes in songs... "this little prince" "Purple Yoda" etc.

and..............

Remember the Oprah Interview...

SHE SAYS: "You seem to have grown a lot over these last years "

HE SAYS (as he stands up) "NOPE..Im pretty much the same size ! "

I remember about 10 years ago that Prince complained about being short to one of his older sisters. it was on the Housequake website.

I'm 5'4" and I dated a guy who was the same height as Prince. I think its cute that Prince was short

TheDigitalGardener said:

What's the weather like up there?

Looks like rain.
*Spits on you.

I'm 5'2. Sometimes it's annoying because people assume I'm ten years younger and treat me like a child, there are not enough handles in public transport to hold, but I wouldn't change. I can wear clothes from my childhood years and I can fit in everywhere

I do believe that Prince's lack of height bothered them. Come on, folks. Wearing high heels to be fashionable in the 1980's is one thing...wearing high heels, platform tennis shoes and boots for 40 something years is a whole other matter. He's human. A bit of a Napoleonic syndrome isn't necessarily a bad thing. He funneled it into stage swagger and a work effort. But it did have some bad results. Think about the discomfort of those heels and the weariness he had toward males at times. But I do think he often handled the lack of height with dignity and even humor and could take a joke about it as long as he was in on the joke. In other words, someone tall making fun of his height probably would NOT have been welcomed by Prince. Another short person doing it (like in that GQ article) would have probably been fine. Prince calling himself "little Princey" and joking about his lack of height was probably so that no one else (who was taller) would get an opportunity to see his lack of height as a weakness...

I am speculating that P had mixed feelings about his own height.

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Lovejunky said:

ufoclub said:

I'm pretty sure Prince was going for some dry humor when he said that to the other two in that story in GQ. He kind of celebrated his stature, putting lyrics and jokes in songs... "this little prince" "Purple Yoda" etc.

and..............

Remember the Oprah Interview...

SHE SAYS: "You seem to have grown a lot over these last years "

HE SAYS (as he stands up) "NOPE..Im pretty much the same size ! "

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LOL

bluegangsta said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

What's the weather like up there?

Looks like rain.
*Spits on you.

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LOL

purplerabbithole said:

I do believe that Prince's lack of height bothered them. Come on, folks. Wearing high heels to be fashionable in the 1980's is one thing...wearing high heels, platform tennis shoes and boots for 40 something years is a whole other matter. He's human. A bit of a Napoleonic syndrome isn't necessarily a bad thing. He funneled it into stage swagger and a work effort. But it did have some bad results. Think about the discomfort of those heels and the weariness he had toward males at times. But I do think he often handled the lack of height with dignity and even humor and could take a joke about it as long as he was in on the joke. In other words, someone tall making fun of his height probably would NOT have been welcomed by Prince. Another short person doing it (like in that GQ article) would have probably been fine. Prince calling himself "little Princey" and joking about his lack of height was probably so that no one else (who was taller) would get an opportunity to see his lack of height as a weakness...

I am speculating that P had mixed feelings about his own height.

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Yeah, but the heels were a part of his style & trademark. He didn't have to wear them. I mean, 3" heels don't really make you that much taller.

cloveringold85 said:

Mpls55408 said:

I couldn't agree more with your statement. The man wore heals his entire life to appear taller, no doubt on some level it bothered him.

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Prince was not self-conscious about his height. He wore heels because he wanted to, not because he was a petite, 5'3" Man. His heels were just a part of his ensemble/style.

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People think just because he wore heels, that his height bothered him. That is just not true and even said so himself. He would joke about it from time-to-time, because people would bring it up in conversation, and Prince had a good sense of humor, so he would just go along with it.

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This discussion has been going on for years!

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http://prince.org/msg/7/272801?pr

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Of course Prince was conscious about his height. I have no doubt about it. Wearing heels 24/7 is a pretty good indicator of that, imo. If not, he would wear something else from time to time, don't you think?
He was short and that obviously must have made him feel self conscious. I know a couple of men that height (they are actually my daughter's friends, so they're in their 20s) and they even ask their girlfreinds to not wear heels when they go out with them. The Napolean xomplex is a thing. Plus, a lot of short man are very controlling towards women, for obvious reasons.

Prince made up for it being a hard working guy and having a great sense of humour. Of course he would joke about his height all the time, what better way to show people that it did not bother him at all? Just like how some bigger women/men will laugh about their weight. It works as a defense mechanism.

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MMJas said:

Wedges and platform flip-flops were not part of his "trademark" look. I saw him once on stage (in a picture) with regular shoes and his legs looks short compared to his torso. He may have used the high shoes to provide proportion to this frame..

cloveringold85 said:

purplerabbithole said:

I do believe that Prince's lack of height bothered them. Come on, folks. Wearing high heels to be fashionable in the 1980's is one thing...wearing high heels, platform tennis shoes and boots for 40 something years is a whole other matter. He's human. A bit of a Napoleonic syndrome isn't necessarily a bad thing. He funneled it into stage swagger and a work effort. But it did have some bad results. Think about the discomfort of those heels and the weariness he had toward males at times. But I do think he often handled the lack of height with dignity and even humor and could take a joke about it as long as he was in on the joke. In other words, someone tall making fun of his height probably would NOT have been welcomed by Prince. Another short person doing it (like in that GQ article) would have probably been fine. Prince calling himself "little Princey" and joking about his lack of height was probably so that no one else (who was taller) would get an opportunity to see his lack of height as a weakness...

I am speculating that P had mixed feelings about his own height.

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Yeah, but the heels were a part of his style & trademark. He didn't have to wear them. I mean, 3" heels don't really make you that much taller.

rogifan said:

There are multiple examples of Prince being self-deprecating.

During the Oprah interview on nationwide TV, talking about how he's grown since getting his freedom from WB. Prince's response "Nope, I'm pretty much the same size".

I'm sure his height was an issue for him, but on balance, he was also a multi-millionaire several hundred times over, world famous & one of the elite few considered to be the musicians musician. I'm sure by the time he'd slept with a few thousand of the most beautiful women in the world, he was able to joke about some of his insecurities, especially if the insecurity in question is a fear of not being found attractive by the opposite sex.

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cloveringold85 said:

Mpls55408 said:

I couldn't agree more with your statement. The man wore heals his entire life to appear taller, no doubt on some level it bothered him.

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Prince was not self-conscious about his height. He wore heels because he wanted to, not because he was a petite, 5'3" Man. His heels were just a part of his ensemble/style.

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People think just because he wore heels, that his height bothered him. That is just not true and even said so himself. He would joke about it from time-to-time, because people would bring it up in conversation, and Prince had a good sense of humor, so he would just go along with it.

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This discussion has been going on for years!

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http://prince.org/msg/7/272801?pr

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. We don't really know how he felt about it. I'm just going by what i've read thru the years. He wore heels all the time, even when not performing. even when he wore flip flops they where platform ones. Even playing basketball! He was picked on as a kid for being little, that kind of stuff stays with you on some kind of level, regardless of how much you've worked thru issues like that.

d - d - d - d - dead on it!

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Prince was not self-conscious about his height. He wore heels because he wanted to, not because he was a petite, 5'3" Man. His heels were just a part of his ensemble/style.

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People think just because he wore heels, that his height bothered him. That is just not true and even said so himself. He would joke about it from time-to-time, because people would bring it up in conversation, and Prince had a good sense of humor, so he would just go along with it.

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This discussion has been going on for years!

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http://prince.org/msg/7/272801?pr

[Edited 12/14/16 17:35pm]

Of course Prince was conscious about his height. I have no doubt about it. Wearing heels 24/7 is a pretty good indicator of that, imo. If not, he would wear something else from time to time, don't you think?
He was short and that obviously must have made him feel self conscious. I know a couple of men that height (they are actually my daughter's friends, so they're in their 20s) and they even ask their girlfreinds to not wear heels when they go out with them. The Napolean xomplex is a thing. Plus, a lot of short man are very controlling towards women, for obvious reasons.

Prince made up for it being a hard working guy and having a great sense of humour. Of course he would joke about his height all the time, what better way to show people that it did not bother him at all? Just like how some bigger women/men will laugh about their weight. It works as a defense mechanism.

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When I first met him I first saw him from behind and my friend and I were wondering who "that gorgeous little lady is". It was only when he turned around that it dawned on us that it was Prince. And it wasn't only the height but the way he moved and his cute little waist. We all know that he's short but nothing prepares u for the reality. That tiny frame. While he was giving us smiles and eyes my friend and I couldn't help but exchange looks that said, "He's SO tiny! - I know. - But he's CUTE." And from the way P looked at us I knew that he knew exactly what we were thinking.

He was very conscious of his height. Another friend once asked him what he wanted to be when he was little. He was a really good sport about it by joking, We don't use the L-word around here. But I always knew that it wasn't easy for him being short. It was one of the reasons why I could never take him serious - until I fell for him. His aura and his way with u was everything. And the music... his voice... I still call him my baby brother but because of my feelings for him, not because he was short.

luxegolightly said:

I didn't take the quote as someone who was "tormented", I think that's a little bit much but I'm sure he had issues with his height. I'm fun sized myself and I have always wished I was taller even though I'm a woman. I don't know if Prince would have physically appealed to me with the makeup and clothes and stuff if he was 6'3" or something. That little package enhanced his image in my opinion.

You know, I have never thought about that, you are so right, if he was taller and wearing those clothes it would have looked totally weird? It was his petite-ness that made it all work the way it did. And I never thought about his head being big - I wish someone didnt say that as I had not really thought about that

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