http://www.metro.us/entertainment/prince-s-estate-turns-down-jay-z-s-offer-for-unreleased-music/zsJpkm---BVoKpep4kSi3M/

After legendary singer Prince was found dead in his home from an accidental drug overdose earlier this year, rapper and businessman Jay-Z made a move to purchase the late singer’s unreleased music. TMZ reported that Jay sat down with Prince’s sister and offered around $40 million for the cherished catalog.

Apparently Prince’s estate has made a decision: No deal. TMZ has confirmed that the estate sent a letter to Jay-Z’s camp saying that they actually aren’t down to let "Roc Nation to exploit any of the intellectual property assets of the Estate." Yikes. They’re also claiming that Tidal, part-owned by Jay, was not authorized to make 15 of Prince’s albums available for streaming shortly after his death.

Never, never trust the media.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

geetee71 said:

geetee71 said:

. But weren't some of the albums available in better quality than ever before (thinking Chocolate Invasion, etc.) . How did TIDAL make these available if they hadn't been provided by the Prince camp? .

they were released on Tidal in december of 2015. so obviously with prince's knowledge.

they also sound way better than they ever did on the npgmc and i'm incredibly happy
we finally have them now in such quality.

geetee71 said:

feeluupp said:

http://www.metro.us/entertainment/prince-s-estate-turns-down-jay-z-s-offer-for-unreleased-music/zsJpkm---BVoKpep4kSi3M/

After legendary singer Prince was found dead in his home from an accidental drug overdose earlier this year, rapper and businessman Jay-Z made a move to purchase the late singer’s unreleased music. TMZ reported that Jay sat down with Prince’s sister and offered around $40 million for the cherished catalog.

Apparently Prince’s estate has made a decision: No deal. TMZ has confirmed that the estate sent a letter to Jay-Z’s camp saying that they actually aren’t down to let "Roc Nation to exploit any of the intellectual property assets of the Estate." Yikes. They’re also claiming that Tidal, part-owned by Jay, was not authorized to make 15 of Prince’s albums available for streaming shortly after his death.

Lies, Prince was still alive and ALL OF THOSE ALBUMS were already available. They need to quit.

IstenSzek said:

paisleypark4 said:

feeluupp said:

http://www.metro.us/entertainment/prince-s-estate-turns-down-jay-z-s-offer-for-unreleased-music/zsJpkm---BVoKpep4kSi3M/

After legendary singer Prince was found dead in his home from an accidental drug overdose earlier this year, rapper and businessman Jay-Z made a move to purchase the late singer’s unreleased music. TMZ reported that Jay sat down with Prince’s sister and offered around $40 million for the cherished catalog.

Apparently Prince’s estate has made a decision: No deal. TMZ has confirmed that the estate sent a letter to Jay-Z’s camp saying that they actually aren’t down to let "Roc Nation to exploit any of the intellectual property assets of the Estate." Yikes. They’re also claiming that Tidal, part-owned by Jay, was not authorized to make 15 of Prince’s albums available for streaming shortly after his death.

Lies, Prince was still alive and ALL OF THOSE ALBUMS were already available. They need to quit.

Not true. 20TEN wasn't available... EXODUS... NEWPOWERSOUL... I remember when Prince died a bunch of albums went up on TIDAL right after.

margi said:

TwiliteKid said:

IstenSzek said:

they were released on Tidal in december of 2015. so obviously with prince's knowledge.

they also sound way better than they ever did on the npgmc and i'm incredibly happy
we finally have them now in such quality.

No, the first batch of albums went up in September, the same day HNR was released. Your point stands - just want to clear up the dates.

oh i know, i was just talking about those npgmc albums like chocolate invasion / expectatin etc.

and you're right that there was another big batch available from june 7.

laurarichardson said:

margi said:

I do not understand your thoughts on Tyka sitting down with Jay to negotiate about the unreleased music in the vault. The released and unreleased music belongs to the LLC that Prince set up January 2014 with Management of the LLC selected and is in place still today. Prince was the single shareholder in the LLC. Unless Tyka was a shareholder (and that has already been determined as NO)or a beneficiary and even then she could not negotiate anything without management involved. All Tyka would be entitled to as a beneficiary would be a stream of income allocated by her size of share if other beneficiaries are included.(charities etc)Prince may not have made any family beneficiaries and instead set up the LLC to provide a 120 year (copyright) stream of income for his projects such as music programmes for schools and charities he started. The estate belongs to the family and is in court and will eventually attract state death taxes on the gross value because Prince left no known will. The LLC stands alone and attracts no state taxes at all and did not require a will. It was set up to run as Prince wanted and support who Prince wanted with income from the sales of his music and films. That was a major reason Prince fought for ownership of his Masters, so he could generate income for 120 years through the LLC. Prince, alive or dead, the LLC will go on and that is the beauty of the business decision Prince made to protect his lifes work. [Edited 11/14/16 1:02am]

Something is going with NPG music. Does anyone know if this was up before because I did not see it a few days ago. [Edited 11/14/16 4:42am]

I know that Tony M told me that he and rest of the NPG are working on new material and shows. He said he would keep us posted on it.

Despite what the Estate may or may not be saying, Prince was clearly working happily with Tidal right up until his passing. Even on the Monday before his death he gave Tidal 'Black Sweat' from Atlanta as the Purple Pick.

Right now, I'd trust Tidal more than the Estate, since Prince actually chose Tidal for a working relationship. The Estate however, is a different story...

feeluupp said:

http://www.metro.us/entertainment/prince-s-estate-turns-down-jay-z-s-offer-for-unreleased-music/zsJpkm---BVoKpep4kSi3M/

After legendary singer Prince was found dead in his home from an accidental drug overdose earlier this year, rapper and businessman Jay-Z made a move to purchase the late singer’s unreleased music. TMZ reported that Jay sat down with Prince’s sister and offered around $40 million for the cherished catalog.

Apparently Prince’s estate has made a decision: No deal. TMZ has confirmed that the estate sent a letter to Jay-Z’s camp saying that they actually aren’t down to let "Roc Nation to exploit any of the intellectual property assets of the Estate." Yikes. They’re also claiming that Tidal, part-owned by Jay, was not authorized to make 15 of Prince’s albums available for streaming shortly after his death.

I don't trust the media either, however TMZ has been relatively accurate and they do back check before they air a story. I do not trust Jay Z. I am on the side of the estate and the chump change he offered for Prince's catalogue was highly insulting.

OperatingThetan said:

On November 7, 2016 Roc Nation filed a Statement of Unsecured Claim against the Estate.

The statement indicates it is based upon "...contract for services and distribution of intellectual property as modified by subsequent writings, course of dealing between the parties, and oral understandings and agreements..."

It appears there is a dispute between Roc Nation and the Estate as to what the oral agreement was between Prince and JayZ.

oliviacamron said:

All I know is, if PRINCE music gets taken off Tidal I'm cancelling my subscription because all I ever listened to on Tidal is Prince.

I agree with this, to a fault. I was none too pleased to start a subscription with Tidal JUST so I could have access to Prince. My whole thing was, "Fuck Jay-Z and how much of a corporate sell-out he's become". I already had a Spotify premium subscription while P's stuff was still on there at the time, and something about Tidal really rubbed me the wrong way. But because of my Prince fandom, I made a decision to get Tidal, and for a while, I really disliked having it. I felt the extra 5 bucks a month was a rip-off. But then I stumbled upon a web page comparing the sound qualities of Spotify and Tidal, and Tidal's sound (for the premium subscription, not the $24.95 hi-fi one) is better by a country mile. If sound quality is something you care at all about, Tidal wins. To my ears, Spotify's quality seems far too compressed to me, whereas with Tidal the music breathes. Tidal also has a lot of cool extras like music videos, and live shows. Give it a chance, I feel it's very much worth it.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

I quickly went to Tidal to buy Exodus and felt like they'd be removed soon a few weeks ago.

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Didn't check again to do so until today. Alas, I was too late.

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Dammit! That teaches *me* to be poor and not able to buy everything all at once! Haha

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Hope the estate makes all these albums available directly soon. I want to support them!

26ten said:

I quickly went to Tidal to buy Exodus and felt like they'd be removed soon a few weeks ago.

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Didn't check again to do so until today. Alas, I was too late.

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Dammit! That teaches *me* to be poor and not able to buy everything all at once! Haha

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Hope the estate makes all these albums available directly soon. I want to support them!

this must be a very recent development because i went there yesterday (!)
to purchase a flac version of "Rave In2" and now it's gone from the site
shit! i thought i could purchase it this weekend and didn't get my copy

26ten said:

I quickly went to Tidal to buy Exodus and felt like they'd be removed soon a few weeks ago.

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Didn't check again to do so until today. Alas, I was too late.

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Dammit! That teaches *me* to be poor and not able to buy everything all at once! Haha

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Hope the estate makes all these albums available directly soon. I want to support them!

Are you sure it's gone? Looks to me like the search function just isn't working - nothing I search for pulls up any results.