26ten |
Hahaha this has been a fun thread I have to admit. I should expect that on some of his albums that are a little more controversial among fans.
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I'm glad I grew to love this album - I'm happy I didn't miss out on it after that initial listen 7 years ago or so.
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I think I'll pull that set out at some point this weekend and jam them all beginning to end soon. Been nice to binge on the man's jams. |
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Ingela |
Haha calling me troll because I have better taste than you.
Funny
Mplsound will always be considered amongst his worsts (I personally list it as THE worst all time record.) And none of your troll games by all both of you is ever going to change that.
C'com when you're about the only one who likes something, maybe it's timee to take a look at yourself instead of calling other people names. Just a thought.. [Edited 10/29/16 13:21pm] |
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26ten |
5 most misunderstood Prince records in my eyes (protege and instrumental work not included here):
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MPLSound
Chocolate Invasion (I have Slaughterhouse but haven't listened to it just yet)
Emancipation (disc 2 is so glorious)
New Power Soul (I totally count NPG records as just Prince records - I know it)
Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (and it's remix counterpart honestly - very very good stuff) . These are the ones I've been listening to most lately - and granted there are a few records I don't have just yet so this could change, but I feel these ones generally get the most hate and so I tried to not expect the sound of the 80's - even on MPLSound - and found that these albums were still very solid. They're actually all some of my favorites now that I've given them the time they deserve. |
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TheEnglishGent |
Ingela said:
Haha calling me troll because I have better taste than you. Funny Mplsound will always be considered amongst his worsts (I personally list it as THE worst all time record.)
You're being called a troll because you don't seem to understand that tastes differ and your opinion doesn't make something true for everyone else. You don't have better taste, you just have different taste.
RIP |
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DarkKnight1
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Ingela said:
Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
Thread hijack successful. (Insert something clever here) |
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Noodled24 |
MPLSound isn't bad, but the first two tracks are quite long and musically speaking, very little happens. Lyrically "Never Be Another" is quite strong but could have done with being a jam rather than a beat.
I also think the ballads weigh it down. They're not bad, but they don't really cover any new ground either. I think the album would flow better if it have all been mid/up-tempo. Especially with more ballads on LF & Bria having her own album. |
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26ten |
Noodled24 said:
MPLSound isn't bad, but the first two tracks are quite long and musically speaking, very little happens. Lyrically "Never Be Another" is quite strong but could have done with being a jam rather than a beat.
I also think the ballads weigh it down. They're not bad, but they don't really cover any new ground either. I think the album would flow better if it have all been mid/up-tempo. Especially with more ballads on LF & Bria having her own album.
Admittedly the ballads - just the sheer # of them in the middle of the album - did surprise me quite a bit. |
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paisleypark4 |
I looove Dance 4 Me, that song goes down as one of his most infectious dance grooves (...I even like it more than Let's Work!) Valentina is coo. Old Skool Company is nice and even No More Candy 4 U. As a whole it is off kilter especially with the first two songs being cringeworthy, however he saved it with Here, Dance 4 Me and Old Skool Company. [Edited 11/1/16 14:04pm] Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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26ten |
I wish he had added some Clare Fischer orchestral work on some of these. It would have greatly helped the album imo. I love imagining what that would have sounded like. |
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Ingela said:
1725topp said:
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But, your statement was that only people who were "12 and under" who hadn't "listened to many albums to compare with" would like Mpls, which clearly isn't the case with me. I was over 12 when I heard it, and, by then, I had listened to many albums to compare to Mpls, and I still like it, which seems to debunk your position.
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My only real point is that I never understand folks who can't seem to see beyond their own taste in music. I completely understand if you hate Mpls, but I don't understand how you can't fathom that someone else could like it, using the whole "someone not as musically educated or sophisticated as me" line of logic to refute the notion that someone could like Mpls. As someone said on this site years ago, "One person's Lovesexy is another person's The Rainbow Children." As such, it makes no sense to attack people or question their artistic/aesthetic education, maturity, or taste simply because they like something that you don't. This doesn't mean that we can't have informed discussions about what makes some songs different or even more complex or progressive than other songs, but I'm always aware that art is equally subjective as well as empirical, meaning that both the art, itself, as well as the person's personal existence are both combining to inform and impact how someone receives or reacts to a work of art. For me, Mpls is fun, funky, eclectic, and presents a variation on the sound provided by Lotusflow3r. Together, they constitute a nice whole of the genius of Prince. On the other hand, only one song moved me from Via's album as most of the songs seem very one-dimensional and redundant of each other in groove and vocal delivery, but I'm open to the possibility that it connected or resonated with someone else even if it didn't resonate with me. Rather than dissing Via's album or the people who like it, I prefer focusing on what I like as a more constructive way to share artistic/aesthetic ideas.
No it's a litmus test. If anyone goes so far overboard sensed the worst album ever it's a given you have some bad taste in music. You're a fanatic Prince fan obviously and and like a form of stockholm syndrome you fanatically defend even something as obviously bad as MPLSOUND
This is ironic because the only one that is coming off as fantatic about MPLSound is you. The post you are responding to is even tempered, thought out, and well written.
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The album is good enough for me. I like it better than Rave and New Power Soul. "New Power slide...." |
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paisleypark4 |
26ten said:
I wish he had added some Clare Fischer orchestral work on some of these. It would have greatly helped the album imo. I love imagining what that would have sounded like.
Agree. Would have indeed gave it alot of life Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Ingela |
TheEnglishGent said:
Ingela said: Haha calling me troll because I have better taste than you. Funny Mplsound will always be considered amongst his worsts (I personally list it as THE worst all time record.)
You're being called a troll because you don't seem to understand that tastes differ and your opinion doesn't make something true for everyone else. You don't have better taste, you just have different taste.
And there is such a thing as bad taste. |
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AJones |
Ingela said:
Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
what's one of the best? Purple squirrel |
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Ingela |
AJones said:
Ingela said: Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
what's one of the best? Thats much harder. There are so many great albums and the graduations of a lot a factors come into play. But if anyone here thinks Chocolate Box or any of the other cheesy, obnoxious, amateurish mess is palatable, cool and enjoy. Just don't caught up in calling someone a troll because someone doesn't live in your alternate universe. Let's not twist things around here, those who think this is an OK album are a tiny minority, it's not like I'm saying anything out-there, it's the other way around. |
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TheEnglishGent |
Ingela said:
TheEnglishGent said:
You're being called a troll because you don't seem to understand that tastes differ and your opinion doesn't make something true for everyone else. You don't have better taste, you just have different taste.
And there is such a thing as bad taste.
Again, different taste, it's all very personal and only based on your point of view. Somebody might like something that I find personally distasteful but that doesn't make their taste bad, only different.
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TheEnglishGent |
Ingela said:
AJones said:
what's one of the best?
Thats much harder. There are so many great albums and the graduations of a lot a factors come into play. But if anyone here thinks Chocolate Box or any of the other cheesy, obnoxious, amateurish mess is palatable, cool and enjoy. Just don't caught up in calling someone a troll because someone doesn't live in your alternate universe. Let's not twist things around here, those who think this is an OK album are a tiny minority, it's not like I'm saying anything out-there, it's the other way around.
See now I could troll you and claim Chocloate Box to be awesome but I can't stand that track. Yet that doesn't mean that if someone else likes it that they have bad taste.
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Harps |
Ingela said:
Haha calling me troll because I have better taste than you. Funny Mplsound will always be considered amongst his worsts (I personally list it as THE worst all time record.) And none of your troll games by all both of you is ever going to change that. C'com when you're about the only one who likes something, maybe it's timee to take a look at yourself instead of calling other people names. Just a thought.. [Edited 10/29/16 13:21pm]
WOW. I am impressed! Whilst successfully managing to sound like a complete tool who believes his own opinion is fact, you have also listened to EVERY OTHER RECORD IN THE WORLD, which is how you can confidently claim that this is the worst all time record.
You are an idiot. That is obviously my opinion however I believe more people will support this as fact than the rubbish you are spouting! |
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CAL3
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AJones said:
Ingela said:
Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
what's one of the best?
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"Chinese Democracy" - GnR |
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Lianachan |
Ingela said:
Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
Definitely one of his worst, and possibly the worst one at the time it came out, but I think he released a few worse ones after that (20Ten, AOA and Phase One spring to mind).
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov |
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Electrostar
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Just rediscovered this album in a hot bath last Friday night. Fantastic album. U're gonna C me. Stunning. I'm no kid and have maybe 500 albums of everything under the sun. I also love New Power Soul and haven't played Purple Rain for maybe 10 years! We must remember taste is very personal. As equality grows, violence declines. |
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DarlingKris |
I recently heard this album for the first time last week and while its not my favorite album, I do like No More Candy 4 U,Valentina,Here and Better With Time Forever In My Life, forever in my heart. I love you Prince Rogers Nelson |
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Ingela |
Harps said:
Ingela said: Haha calling me troll because I have better taste than you. Funny Mplsound will always be considered amongst his worsts (I personally list it as THE worst all time record.) And none of your troll games by all both of you is ever going to change that. C'com when you're about the only one who likes something, maybe it's timee to take a look at yourself instead of calling other people names. Just a thought.. [Edited 10/29/16 13:21pm]
WOW. I am impressed! Whilst successfully managing to sound like a complete tool who believes his own opinion is fact, you have also listened to EVERY OTHER RECORD IN THE WORLD, which is how you can confidently claim that this is the worst all time record. You are an idiot. That is obviously my opinion however I believe more people will support this as fact than the rubbish you are spouting! Same too you. And you have bad taste too. When you like something aeful, OWN IT. people who like chintz, or shabby chic, or cheese at least admit it. Youre really angry because you have really bad taste in music. Embrace it. No name calling, just embrace it. |
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CAL3
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Ingela said:
Harps said:
WOW. I am impressed! Whilst successfully managing to sound like a complete tool who believes his own opinion is fact, you have also listened to EVERY OTHER RECORD IN THE WORLD, which is how you can confidently claim that this is the worst all time record.
You are an idiot. That is obviously my opinion however I believe more people will support this as fact than the rubbish you are spouting!
Same too you. And you have bad taste too. When you like something aeful, OWN IT. people who like chintz, or shabby chic, or cheese at least admit it. Youre really angry because you have really bad taste in music. Embrace it. No name calling, just embrace it.
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Define "bad taste in music" - beyond adjectives.
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If you can. Because there's an element of subjectivity. Isn't there? |
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Ingela |
Lianachan said:
Ingela said: Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
Definitely one of his worst, and possibly the worst one at the time it came out, but I think he released a few worse ones after that (20Ten, AOA and Phase One spring to mind).
Yeah but this one is like jump the shark bad. Unlistenable. AOA and 20ten had a fee good tracks and weren't so overtly cheesy amateurish and cringeworthy. But he must have know it as he released Lotusflow3r along with it which is the complete opposite. Strong , sober and professional sounding. |
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Ingela |
CAL3 said:
Ingela said: Harps said:
WOW. I am impressed! Whilst successfully managing to sound like a complete tool who believes his own opinion is fact, you have also listened to EVERY OTHER RECORD IN THE WORLD, which is how you can confidently claim that this is the worst all time record.
You are an idiot. That is obviously my opinion however I believe more people will support this as fact than the rubbish you are spouting!
Same too you. And you have bad taste too. When you like something aeful, OWN IT. people who like chintz, or shabby chic, or cheese at least admit it. Youre really angry because you have really bad taste in music. Embrace it. No name calling, just embrace it.
. Define "bad taste in music" - beyond adjectives. . If you can. Because there's an element of subjectivity. Isn't there? Naw it's pretty universal. Bad taste is bad taste. |
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CAL3
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Ingela said:
CAL3 said:
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Define "bad taste in music" - beyond adjectives.
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If you can. Because there's an element of subjectivity. Isn't there?
Naw it's pretty universal. Bad taste is bad taste.
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Too easy.
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It is, of course, subjective.
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So how would YOU personally define "bad taste?" |
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RicoN |
Ingela said:
Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
I've always though it was one of his better late efforts - I prefer it to Lotusflower, and it is better than Planet Earth Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy |
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Ingela |
CAL3 said:
Ingela said: CAL3 said:
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Define "bad taste in music" - beyond adjectives.
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If you can. Because there's an element of subjectivity. Isn't there?
Naw it's pretty universal. Bad taste is bad taste.
. Too easy. . It is, of course, subjective. . So how would YOU personally define "bad taste?" Lol just google examples of bad taste. Sure people who have bad taste are probably oblivious to the fact, but if you do an image search of bad taste you'll probably see therss a universal acknowledgement. Just as Ste standard of beauty is pretty much universal too. In a beauty pageant there isn't much surprise as to how they look, and the same for cars and almost everything else. Is there subjection involved? Sure, but there is a real universal standard of things whether you like to admit it or not. So no, not easy. If you really think that then you're the one who delusional. |
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Ingela |
RicoN said:
Ingela said: Still the worst album ever made by anyone of any genre. Just the absolute worst.
I've always though it was one of his better late efforts - I prefer it to Lotusflower, and it is better than Planet Earth Well all that says is you have more childish tastes in music as lotus and planet earth while not the greatest, they are more mature album, while mplsound is his most childish and cringeworthy album ever. |
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