Well he did concentrate a lot on rock in his last phase with 3rd Eye Girl, and as Sheila E said, he always wanted a straight up rock band... so I don't think it was a clear shift to R&B/urban/ musically speaking.

"... a natural proud cool black man?"

K.

Others knew and know he was taken advantage of by ignorant, money-grubbing, race baiting liars like some of his "representatives", their "charitities", and other "special interests", including, clearly, BLM which is a heap of utter b.s.

Oh Lawd....here we go again

StopIt said:

So is 'white' not hip then? Damn, I'm screwed. I thought I had it down.

StopIt said:

anangellooksdown said:

I was just watching Montreux 2009 and have also seen clips of Montreux 2013. We all know he started growing out his hair into an Afro sometime between 2009 & 2013. As we've noticed of course, he really seemed to move into a very natural proud cool black man personality in looks, dress, music, civic interests within the black community although that was probably there earlier, etc. What do you think made him so hip and "black" again? Do you think he was running from the pain of romance(s) that didn't work so he steeped into another personality, perhaps an extreme one, or something else like that? Or was it just a subconscious evolvement? Or something else? [Edited 10/21/16 19:00pm]

many people say he went full circle, it's true. I point out that elvis did the same, people close to him believed in the adage that people go full circle and he said he was worried when he saw elvis eating grits, greens, po' folk food instead of the food he had eaten for the last couple decades. I think it's true. Just today, I was thinking of my failed career as a fighter, failed because I could never get the idiots around me to see anything other than their own silly interests. One of the first times I sparred, I was a kid, i did horrible but the trainer said "you have a fast right hand". The last time I sparred, some 20 years later, with a former kickboxing and ufc champion, he said "you have a fast right hand". all of it told me that it was time to stop and i did.

laurarichardson said:

StopIt said:

"... a natural proud cool black man?"

K.

Others knew and know he was taken advantage of by ignorant, money-grubbing, race baiting liars like some of his "representatives", their "charitities", and other "special interests", including, clearly, BLM which is a heap of utter b.s.

--Yes, because charities like we can code are so horrible.

of course the white fans, and his white musicians did not like it when he went black, well, newsflash, the man was black and he would have never had anything other than a black experience in this country without his vast talent.

ufoclub said:

Well he did concentrate a lot on rock in his last phase with 3rd Eye Girl, and as Sheila E said, he always wanted a straight up rock band... so I don't think it was a clear shift to R&B/urban/ musically speaking.

that's true but the best stuff in the last couple years is vintage randb. the rock stuff is the weakest stuff, i didn't really care for the other album released with aoa, can't even think of it's name at the moment, but derivative, weak, not a serious album and it showed.

PeteSilas said:

ufoclub said:

Well he did concentrate a lot on rock in his last phase with 3rd Eye Girl, and as Sheila E said, he always wanted a straight up rock band... so I don't think it was a clear shift to R&B/urban/ musically speaking.

that's true but the best stuff in the last couple years is vintage randb. the rock stuff is the weakest stuff, i didn't really care for the other album released with aoa, can't even think of it's name at the moment, but derivative, weak, not a serious album and it showed.

Plectrumelectrum is a serious album.

jaawwnn said:

PeteSilas said:

that's true but the best stuff in the last couple years is vintage randb. the rock stuff is the weakest stuff, i didn't really care for the other album released with aoa, can't even think of it's name at the moment, but derivative, weak, not a serious album and it showed.

Plectrumelectrum is a serious album.

i guess i could listen again, wouldn't be the first time i was wrong, but I didn't like what i heard, sounded like a lot of secondhand riffing to me. He could be forgiven, aoa more than made up for it.

anangellooksdown said:

I was just watching Montreux 2009 and have also seen clips of Montreux 2013. We all know he started growing out his hair into an Afro sometime between 2009 & 2013. As we've noticed of course, he really seemed to move into a very natural proud cool black man personality in looks, dress, music, civic interests within the black community although that was probably there earlier, etc. What do you think made him so hip and "black" again? Do you think he was running from the pain of romance(s) that didn't work so he steeped into another personality, perhaps an extreme one, or something else like that? Or was it just a subconscious evolvement? Or something else?

Y'all can really read shit into something. When did Prince stop being black? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

BUT, Prince let the fro come back around 2012. If you look at pics then, the fro was coming in, albeit still short. Ain't got shit to do with romance.

PeteSilas said:

jaawwnn said:

Plectrumelectrum is a serious album.

i guess i could listen again, wouldn't be the first time i was wrong, but I didn't like what i heard, sounded like a lot of secondhand riffing to me. He could be forgiven, aoa more than made up for it.

It has its moments but it's not great overall I agree with that, AOA is definitely better but it'd be dishonest imho to say his heart wasn't in it. I think it just wasn't his greatest effort but not because he didn't believe in it.

[Edited 10/22/16 1:09am]

.

[Edited 10/24/16 0:34am]

marshmullow said:

As far as his hair, maybe he figured he no longer wanted to spend so much time on his hair

I almost typed that in my earlier response! There is a certain level of sweet irony in that we first and last saw him looking almost the same, albeit with a bit of experience and age on his face near the end.

But I do sorta think he just didn't wanna fuss with it as much.

tab32792 said:

PeteSilas said:

TrivialPursuit said:

WTF?? Prince was always a proud black man! Anyways, I liked how he was always changing his looks throughout the years. Such a chamelon and was always fly, IMO.

rogifan said:

anangellooksdown said:

I was just watching Montreux 2009 and have also seen clips of Montreux 2013. We all know he started growing out his hair into an Afro sometime between 2009 & 2013. As we've noticed of course, he really seemed to move into a very natural proud cool black man personality in looks, dress, music, civic interests within the black community although that was probably there earlier, etc. What do you think made him so hip and "black" again? Do you think he was running from the pain of romance(s) that didn't work so he steeped into another personality, perhaps an extreme one, or something else like that? Or was it just a subconscious evolvement? Or something else? [Edited 10/21/16 19:00pm]

He didn't start growing the fro until 2012. The Welcome 2 America/Welcome 2 Europe (including TV spots like George Lopez) is 2010/2011 and he clearly has his short, coifed, glittery hair still.

3rdeyeboy said:

So is 'white' not hip then? Damn, I'm screwed. I thought I had it down.

This is literally one of the funniest movies EVER! R.I.P. Gene

StopIt said:

"... a natural proud cool black man?"

K.

Others knew and know he was taken advantage of by ignorant, money-grubbing, race baiting liars like some of his "representatives", their "charitities", and other "special interests", including, clearly, BLM which is a heap of utter b.s.

Haha what? This wasn't the late 60s and Prince was not Jimi getting flack from the panthers. I don't think you know what you're talking about AT ALL - and I have no opinion on BLM or otherwise. What a preposterous thing to write haha

26ten said:

StopIt said:

"... a natural proud cool black man?"

K.

Others knew and know he was taken advantage of by ignorant, money-grubbing, race baiting liars like some of his "representatives", their "charitities", and other "special interests", including, clearly, BLM which is a heap of utter b.s.

Haha what? This wasn't the late 60s and Prince was not Jimi getting flack from the panthers. I don't think you know what you're talking about AT ALL - and I have no opinion on BLM or otherwise. What a preposterous thing to write haha

prince went through 38 years in the public eye, not all of that was him at the same place as a person. he did get heat (as just about any black celeb does) in the eighties and he did say things and do things to minimize his allegiance to black people, so, he did come full circle by the end, unashamedly and proudly black, and i say this from what I get from his songs, his statements and his actions.

gandorb said:

StopIt said:

"... a natural proud cool black man?"

K.

Others knew and know he was taken advantage of by ignorant, money-grubbing, race baiting liars like some of his "representatives", their "charitities", and other "special interests", including, clearly, BLM which is a heap of utter b.s.

Consistent with your praise of Trump.

Ditto!.

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:

StopIt said: --Yes, because charities like we can code are so horrible.

of course the white fans, and his white musicians did not like it when he went black, well, newsflash, the man was black and he would have never had anything other than a black experience in this country without his vast talent.

Don't lump all of us white people together.