novabrkr said:

It definitely was a big hit, but it also had a lot of people reacting negatively to it. What Prince was wearing in the video got a lot of people riled up. I remember also how the use of falsetto vocals was very unusual for a song appearing on the airwaves during that period as well.

TMBGITW video made me laugh. He looked like a glam Vulcan. All i see is a fancy Spock type in that vid.

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Marrk said:

novabrkr said:

It definitely was a big hit, but it also had a lot of people reacting negatively to it. What Prince was wearing in the video got a lot of people riled up. I remember also how the use of falsetto vocals was very unusual for a song appearing on the airwaves during that period as well.

TMBGITW video made me laugh. He looked like a glam Vulcan. All i see is a fancy Spock type in that vid.

[Edited 10/27/16 14:48pm]

Marrk . . . "glam Vulcan"!!!!

namepeace said:

Marrk said:

TMBGITW video made me laugh. He looked like a glam Vulcan. All i see is a fancy Spock type in that vid.

[Edited 10/27/16 14:48pm]

Marrk . . . "glam Vulcan"!!!!

I'm serious!

rebelenterprise said:

skywalker said:

Hypothetical:

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You get to choose the next 40 songs for Prince 4ever: Volume 2. What is on it?

[Edited 10/21/16 11:26am]

Not to derail the thread but since the question was asked... Prince 4Ever Vol. 2 (hypothetical ) 1. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World 2. Letitgo 3. Space 4. Endorphinmachine 5. I Hate U 6. Shhh! 7. Gold 8. Dinner With Delores 9. Emancipation 10. Betcha By Golly Wow 11. Somebody's Somebody 12. The Holy River 13. The One 14. Come On 15. The Greatest Romance Ever Sold 16. The Work Pt. 1 17. Musicology 18. Call My Name 19. Cinnamon Girl 20. A Million Days 21. Black Sweat 22. 3121 23. Fury 24. Guitar 25. Somewhere Here On Earth 26. Future Baby Mama 27. 4Ever 28. Dreamer 29. Chocolate Box 30. Dance 4 Me 31. Beginning Endlessly 32. Future Soul Song 33. The Breakdown 34. Clouds 35. Way Back Home 36. Funk N Roll 37. AnotherLove 38. Baltimore 39. Black Muse 40. Revelation One thing about this would be they could re-release one of these as a single, cause alot of the general public have never heard many of these. [Edited 10/21/16 12:36pm]

Nice list, but Beautiful Strange has to be on there somewhere.

Marrk said:

namepeace said:

Marrk . . . "glam Vulcan"!!!!

I'm serious!

jaypotton said:

Purple Rain deluxe disc two...my prediction: 1. All the b sides 2. All the 12" versions 3. Alternate versions (eg full length Computer Blue) 4. Two previously unreleased songs (eg. Electric Intercourse) So not loads of previously unreleased songs.

if they dont include 8/3/83 dvd they r fools

https://andresmusictalk.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/4-paisley-parks-consideration-14-rarities-that-need-to-be-on-the-new-purple-rain-reissue/

mynameisnotsusan said:

God - the whinging when the PR deluxe edition tracklist finally gets released is going to be unbearable

unfortunately its inevitable

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You should trademark that Glam Vulcan tag before I steal it!

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

1. Let's Go Crazy [Long Dance Version] (7:47)

2. Jungle Love [LP Version] (5:29)

3. Take Me With U (3:54)

4. (I Want 2 B A) Modernaire (4:02)

5. Possessed/The Beautiful Ones [Unreleased Extended Mix] (7:04)

6. Computer Blue [Unreleased] (7:28)

7. Darling Nikki [Uncut Mix] (4:48)

8. When Doves Cry [LP Version] (5:54)

9. Sex Shooter [12" Mix] (6:50)

10. The Bird [Uncensored Mix] (6:38)

11. Purple Rain [w/introduction] (8:59)

12. I Would Die 4 U/Baby I'm A Star [Movie Mix] (7:12)

Sheer nonsense

databank said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

1. Let's Go Crazy [Long Dance Version] (7:47)

2. Jungle Love [LP Version] (5:29)

3. Take Me With U (3:54)

4. (I Want 2 B A) Modernaire (4:02)

5. Possessed/The Beautiful Ones [Unreleased Extended Mix] (7:04)

6. Computer Blue [Unreleased] (7:28)

7. Darling Nikki [Uncut Mix] (4:48)

8. When Doves Cry [LP Version] (5:54)

9. Sex Shooter [12" Mix] (6:50)

10. The Bird [Uncensored Mix] (6:38)

11. Purple Rain [w/introduction] (8:59)

12. I Would Die 4 U/Baby I'm A Star [Movie Mix] (7:12)

Sheer nonsense

U never know...

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

databank said:

Sheer nonsense

U never know...

i expect tracklist for purple rain deluxe extra disc to be something like this at best. not expecting much from warners after seeing 4ever tracklist.

electric intercourse

computer blue hallywayspeech

purple rain xtended

beautiful ones xtended

baby im a star demo

possessed

modenaire

jungle love

the bird

sex shooter

17 days

erotic city

i would die 4 u xtended version

god them from purple rain

another lonely christmas

[Edited 10/28/16 4:39am]

[Edited 10/28/16 4:41am]

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

databank said:

Sheer nonsense

U never know...

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

Where does Roadhouse Garden fit?

databank said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

U never know...

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

Honestly? With only 1 CD of bonus tracks there most certainly be multiple reasons to complain. PR really needs the deluxe treatment of a box set with a minimum of 4 CDs and at least 1 DVD. Anything less and there will be lots of bitching, and it will be justified. There's just no way 1 extra disc will satisfy long-time fans.

udo said:

Where does Roadhouse Garden fit?

Perhaps on the PR remaster.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

Honestly? With only 1 CD of bonus tracks there most certainly be multiple reasons to complain. PR really needs the deluxe treatment of a box set with a minimum of 4 CDs and at least 1 DVD. Anything less and there will be lots of bitching, and it will be justified. There's just no way 1 extra disc will satisfy long-time fans.

I second this! There is SO MUCH that needs to go in / on this release. And I fear if it doesn't get onto this one, it may never see the light of day.

databank said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

U never know...

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

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But why bash WBR? It's much more likely this was yet more sabotage from Prince, delivering the absolute minimum. And now they're stuck with this, because until the estate gets settled this is all they've got. And there's no certainty they'll gain access to more material any time soon.

.

That's the problem when dealing with someone who behaves like a stubborn teenager instead of a professional who realises the value in curating your back catalogue. Undoubtedly this PR remaster/whatever will be a major disappointment, since it will be nowhere near the "final edition" this record deserves to have by this time.

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I remember how Led Zeppelin Remasters was hailed as a glorious reminder of the greatness of that band after their catalogue had become somewhat forgotten, yet if you look at the dates the oldest material in that box set dated back a mere 21 years. Meanwhile PR is 30+ years old (!) and we're only now beginning to dig into it... And if this one bombs, I fear for the rest of the contents of the vault because getting it all out will require a significant investment and lots of promo.

BartVanHemelen said:

And there's no certainty they'll gain access to more material any time soon.

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Because there is no deal between the Estate and WB for a PR remaster?

Or because the Vault might be an uncatalogued mess?

Both?

Or because something else?

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IMNSHO they better delay the PR release until they can do a proper PR release.

BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

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But why bash WBR? It's much more likely this was yet more sabotage from Prince, delivering the absolute minimum. And now they're stuck with this, because until the estate gets settled this is all they've got. And there's no certainty they'll gain access to more material any time soon.

.

That's the problem when dealing with someone who behaves like a stubborn teenager instead of a professional who realises the value in curating your back catalogue. Undoubtedly this PR remaster/whatever will be a major disappointment, since it will be nowhere near the "final edition" this record deserves to have by this time.

.

I remember how Led Zeppelin Remasters was hailed as a glorious reminder of the greatness of that band after their catalogue had become somewhat forgotten, yet if you look at the dates the oldest material in that box set dated back a mere 21 years. Meanwhile PR is 30+ years old (!) and we're only now beginning to dig into it... And if this one bombs, I fear for the rest of the contents of the vault because getting it all out will require a significant investment and lots of promo.

I always love how Bart calls Prince unprofessional and a bad businessman. A man who started from virtually nothing and became a Multi-Millionaire and one of the most prolific and respected artists of all time. No idea what he means by recognising the value of his back catalogue, does he mean money of which Prince had millions? Are you honestly saying that there are many hardcore Prince fans who want to get hold of the extended Computer Blue but can't? Really?

With the greatest respect the professionalism Prince displayed in his life on his worst day would eclipse most people's lives. Prince was a stunngly successful businessman. I know a businessmen who made around 250million from retail and he is considered a capitalistic genius and yet Prince does it, whilst respecting his art, and people just snipe. I would personally put Bart in charge, simply so it allows him to actually create something rather than bitch constantly from the sidelines.

darkroman said:

I do think it is a little dangerous for Warners to always highlight a narrow slice of Prince's career.

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For example, by always ignoring tracks from The Gold Experience, this will make casual listeners ignorant of that era. If Warners then wished to release a Gold Experience deluxe edition, it would pick up less interest.

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Warners know that the casual buyer will be attracted to the bigger hits, so this is a good opportunity to sneak in the lessor known singles.

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This will then educate the listener to Prince's later work / albums with Warners.

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Just a thought.

I completely agree. There are at least 3 tracks on this album they could very well replace with something from his back catalog.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

Honestly? With only 1 CD of bonus tracks there most certainly be multiple reasons to complain. PR really needs the deluxe treatment of a box set with a minimum of 4 CDs and at least 1 DVD. Anything less and there will be lots of bitching, and it will be justified. There's just no way 1 extra disc will satisfy long-time fans.

Actually is it 100% sure there will only be 2 CD's? What I've read says "one extra album of unheard music". This doesn't necessarily exclude a third CD or more with b-sides (or "b-faces" since it seemsthey're now called that:lol: ) and extended mixes. It's impossible to fit the album + all the extended versions and b-sides (let alone the single edits) on one CD, and excluding them (or just adding a few) would be quite suicidal. On the other hand the extra "album" means I assume a CD, unless of course it's a 45 mn album and they somehow managed to fill the rest of that CD too with b-sides and mixes, but wouldn't that be odd? I'm probably wrong but I'm betting on 3 CD's or more. Let us not forget that the official statement now is mostly about 4ever: a more detailed press release will later come about PR that will detail the content. WB wants to keep some excitement for later.

BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

WB would deserve all the bashing this site has to offer if it was that

.

But why bash WBR? It's much more likely this was yet more sabotage from Prince, delivering the absolute minimum. And now they're stuck with this, because until the estate gets settled this is all they've got. And there's no certainty they'll gain access to more material any time soon.

.

That's the problem when dealing with someone who behaves like a stubborn teenager instead of a professional who realises the value in curating your back catalogue. Undoubtedly this PR remaster/whatever will be a major disappointment, since it will be nowhere near the "final edition" this record deserves to have by this time.

.

I remember how Led Zeppelin Remasters was hailed as a glorious reminder of the greatness of that band after their catalogue had become somewhat forgotten, yet if you look at the dates the oldest material in that box set dated back a mere 21 years. Meanwhile PR is 30+ years old (!) and we're only now beginning to dig into it... And if this one bombs, I fear for the rest of the contents of the vault because getting it all out will require a significant investment and lots of promo.

Why don't you just create a thread and explain thoroughly what Prince has personally done to you to generate such anger towards him? The man's gone, dude, give it a rest. What r u gonna do: go at PP on a tour and spit on the urn? He's lost, you've won: you're the one still standing. I mean you know I appreciate your contributions and all, but here I think either you should explain yourself or calm down with the Prince bashing, because you're really making this sound too personal for a nasty little story not being behind it (a girl, maybe?), so if u're gonna keep at it at least let us know why

databank said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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But why bash WBR? It's much more likely this was yet more sabotage from Prince, delivering the absolute minimum. And now they're stuck with this, because until the estate gets settled this is all they've got. And there's no certainty they'll gain access to more material any time soon.

.

That's the problem when dealing with someone who behaves like a stubborn teenager instead of a professional who realises the value in curating your back catalogue. Undoubtedly this PR remaster/whatever will be a major disappointment, since it will be nowhere near the "final edition" this record deserves to have by this time.

.

I remember how Led Zeppelin Remasters was hailed as a glorious reminder of the greatness of that band after their catalogue had become somewhat forgotten, yet if you look at the dates the oldest material in that box set dated back a mere 21 years. Meanwhile PR is 30+ years old (!) and we're only now beginning to dig into it... And if this one bombs, I fear for the rest of the contents of the vault because getting it all out will require a significant investment and lots of promo.

Why don't you just create a thread and explain thoroughly what Prince has personally done to you to generate such anger towards him? The man's gone, dude, give it a rest. What r u gonna do: go at PP on a tour and spit on the urn? He's lost, you've won: you're the one still standing. I mean you know I appreciate your contributions and all, but here I think either you should explain yourself or calm down with the Prince bashing, because you're really making this sound too personal for a nasty little story not being behind it (a girl, maybe?), so if u're gonna keep at it at least let us know why

I always thought there must be some reason for the longest trolling in Human History

FunkOnTheOne said:

databank said:

Why don't you just create a thread and explain thoroughly what Prince has personally done to you to generate such anger towards him? The man's gone, dude, give it a rest. What r u gonna do: go at PP on a tour and spit on the urn? He's lost, you've won: you're the one still standing. I mean you know I appreciate your contributions and all, but here I think either you should explain yourself or calm down with the Prince bashing, because you're really making this sound too personal for a nasty little story not being behind it (a girl, maybe?), so if u're gonna keep at it at least let us know why

I always thought there must be some reason for the longest trolling in Human History

Trolls do not contribute to discussions in any positive manner, Bart does by providing links and informations at least, and by sharing educated opinions and guesses. So I wouldn't call him a troll (we've had a lot of so-called haters like him who hardly ever brought anything substantial to the board). But still, I wanna know the story

^^ Prince most likely DID deliver WB the bare minimum. Why else would WB delay the release of PR Deluxe for almost 3 YEARS? While Prince was complaining that he'd delivered the album to WB and they refuse to release it. Prince likely demanded a large upfront payment and, meanwhile, WB was playing hardball requesting more unreleased content (outtakes, previously unreleased material) to be included.

This looks like WB talked to the family/NPG and convinced them to put out something as soon as possible for marketing purposes. If these 2 records were in planning before Prince died it was a piss-poor idea. As others have said, the hardcore fans already had this music and (assuming Prince was going to be around for years to come) the general public would not be interested in buying old material in another Hits collection. Why?

I suspect WB has some rights to the WB-era Prince material and wanted to get paid while there is still interest and demand by the general public. Because, the reality is that once the 1 year death anniversary hits in April 2017 the general public will move on and sales will fall off. WB has between now and then to cash in.

If (Big IF) these albums WERE in planning before Prince's death and WB had the artist's interest in mind, they would have postponed to put out a more comprehensive collection of his entire career, even if it meant sharing the credit or profits.

Real Prince fans will probably pass on thie WB ploy and wait for the unreleased material once Jay -Z or whoever is the winning bidder.

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Honestly? With only 1 CD of bonus tracks there most certainly be multiple reasons to complain. PR really needs the deluxe treatment of a box set with a minimum of 4 CDs and at least 1 DVD. Anything less and there will be lots of bitching, and it will be justified. There's just no way 1 extra disc will satisfy long-time fans.

Actually is it 100% sure there will only be 2 CD's? What I've read says "one extra album of unheard music". This doesn't necessarily exclude a third CD or more with b-sides (or "b-faces" since it seemsthey're now called that:lol: ) and extended mixes. It's impossible to fit the album + all the extended versions and b-sides (let alone the single edits) on one CD, and excluding them (or just adding a few) would be quite suicidal. On the other hand the extra "album" means I assume a CD, unless of course it's a 45 mn album and they somehow managed to fill the rest of that CD too with b-sides and mixes, but wouldn't that be odd? I'm probably wrong but I'm betting on 3 CD's or more. Let us not forget that the official statement now is mostly about 4ever: a more detailed press release will later come about PR that will detail the content. WB wants to keep some excitement for later.

As long as we're dreaming, why stop there?

For a promotional tie-in I want to see a Record Day Exclusive 12" of one of the Computer Blue extended cuts with Possessed as the B-Side. If they're going to do this right, we gotta have some 12" singles!!

[Edited 10/28/16 14:57pm]

How much will Warners make off of this? I can see some newbie passing buy seeing that cool photo and don't have any those tracks and maybe getting it.